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In Ukraine, captured Russian soldiers say their government tricked them. How are they treated as POWs? And what do they think of the war? DW was able to get exclusive access and speak with prisoners in one facility.

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...At a pretrial detention facility in Ukraine, the second floor is reserved for Russian prisoners of war. DW is not naming the exact location of the building for security reasons.

The Russians are held separately from the other prisoners. We're told it is "for their own protection."

Following a request by journalists to the State Penitentiary Service of Ukraine, DW became the first media outlet to speak with Russian prisoners as well film in the prison.

Permission was granted on the condition that DW would not report the exact whereabouts of the prisoners or show their faces.

We were also only allowed to talk to prisoners who were not charged with war crimes and who faced no other criminal charges: Interviewing such individuals would require additional authorization from the investigators or prosecutor.

'It was only here that I realized what was actually going on'.

Seven men of different ages are sitting in one of the cells. They are not surprised by the visit of journalists. They say representatives of the United Nations or the Red Cross come by every week.

During the interviews, DW journalists were accompanied by prison staff who allowed them to choose the men they wanted to interview.

DW interviewed four prisoners after they gave their consent; they were all professional soldiers and had nothing to hide, they said....



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-06-23 12:28 PM | Reply

Let's have a show of hands for those who feel sorry for these Russian dupes. Anyone? Anyone? Trump?

#2 | Posted by catdog at 2022-06-24 03:51 PM | Reply

We were deceived

~ Susan Collins and Joe Manchin ~

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-06-24 08:27 PM | Reply

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'It was only here that I realized what was actually going on'.

That's the problem - tens of millions of people are not 'there' and don't realize anything because they only see what they are allowed (like in Russia) or want to see or hear - their favorite channels or hashtags / communities on Facebook, Twitter or other social media or podcasts.

That includes or influenced by whatever they "know" of history or geopolitics of different regions in non-recent times, like WWI -> WWII -> post WWII -> Soviet Union / Warsaw Pact -> Maoism -> post-communism -> pseudo-democratic-fascism etc...
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#4 | Posted by CutiePie at 2022-06-24 11:01 PM | Reply

American prisoners of war, or "mercenaries" as the Russians have coined them, are saying much the same. Although in thee case of the Russian prisoners it appears to be far more factual. Even regimental-level commanders were not informed of what their mission was or what to expect upon entering Ukraine.

#5 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-25 07:45 AM | Reply

"American prisoners of war, or "mercenaries" as the Russians have coined them"

Why the quotes around mercenaries?

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-06-25 08:40 AM | Reply

Why the quotes around mercenaries?

Prisoner of war denotes a lawful combatant captured during a conflict. They have a litany of right under the Geneva Conventions, such as immunity from physical harm and the right to return to their country of origin when the war is over.

Mercenaries are not legal combatants under the Geneva Conventions, and therefore do not qualify for POW status. Russia is claiming that foreigners fighting for Ukraine are mercenaries, even when they meet the requirements for POW outlined under the Geneva Conventions.

I am assuming that the foreigners who have been captured where fighting under a Ukrainian military leadership. If they simply showed up to kill Russians without any sort of orders or mandates from the Ukrainian government than they would be illegal combatants.

#7 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-25 08:52 AM | Reply

Ah, I understand. Thanks.

Do you think anything should happen as a result of Russia classifying them as mercenaries instead of lawful combatants?

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-06-25 09:06 AM | Reply

"Do you think anything should happen as a result of Russia classifying them as mercenaries instead of lawful combatants?"

I don't fully understand the question. Are you asking if anything should happen to Russia in response for designating them as unlawful combatants, or are you asking if anything should happen to the prisoners the Russians have captured?

#9 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-25 09:11 AM | Reply

Russians have never been big on adhering to the Geneva Conventions.

#10 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-25 09:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Are you asking if anything should happen to Russia in response for designating them as unlawful combatants"

I am.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-06-25 09:22 AM | Reply

It depends on whether or not the labelling is just bluster. And Russia threatens to put itself in a difficult position if it does treat captives as illegal combatants, as they are using foreign troops from both Syria and Chechnya, as well as Wagner PMC, which is absolutely a mercenary group.

I personally don't think Russia can take that risk, but the actions of Vladimir Putin are incredibly hard to understand. I was convinced Putin would not invade. When he did, and the west intervened, I expected a massive unattributable response. Instead, he's done nothing to counter his enemies outside of Ukraine.

#12 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-06-25 09:36 AM | Reply

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