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Monday, July 04, 2022

The Highland Park Fourth of July parade ended in panic when shots were fired about 10 minutes after the parade kicked off at 10 a.m. Monday, striking an unknown number of parade-goers and sending hundreds of people running for safety. Multiple people were shot. A Chicago Sun-Times reporter saw blankets covering three bloodied bodies and five other people wounded and bloodied near the parade's reviewing stand.

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USA! USA!

#1 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2022-07-04 01:24 PM | Reply

Thanks SCOTUS, NRA and GQP.

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 01:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Miles Zaremski, a Highland Park resident, told the Sun-Times:

"I heard 20 to 25 shots, which were in rapid succession. So it couldn't have been just a handgun or a shotgun."

Well, thank goodness the shooter didn't have to stop and reload all the time. I mean, what good is a tactical military weapon used on civilians if you couldn't kill a lot of people really fast?

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-04 01:28 PM | Reply

Seeing the kids start to haul ass away from gunfire is the new American tradition.

#4 | Posted by rcade at 2022-07-04 01:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This is the America conservatives want.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-04 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

It was only a matter of time.

#6 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-07-04 01:52 PM | Reply

NRA
@NRA
Happy 4th of July, America!

We are a country because of brave souls with guns who valued and fought for liberty and freedom.

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#7 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 01:52 PM | Reply

Let Freedom Ring

#8 | Posted by bartimus at 2022-07-04 01:58 PM | Reply

FTA: "Even as people ran, a klezmer band, seemingly unaware of the gunfire, continued to play."

This is a microcosm of what's going on in the USA right now.

#9 | Posted by bartimus at 2022-07-04 02:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

6 dead, 24 hospitalized
Single male shooter, age 18-20.
Shooter shot down from a rooftop.
Shooter is unidentified and is at large.
One rifle in police possession.

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-04 02:04 PM | Reply

Great summary of modern America.

#11 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-07-04 02:04 PM | Reply

No way to prevent this. My thoughts and prayers are with the people of (insert city, school, church, concert venue, event here) for this horrific act of evil and to the families of those impacted by this tragedy. See you next time.

#12 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-07-04 02:05 PM | Reply

"More people die in fireworks accidents."

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-04 02:06 PM | Reply

It had to be a Muslim.No way is it going to be a gun loving white male Christian that crossed the line from being law abiding gun owner.

#14 | Posted by Scotty at 2022-07-04 02:08 PM | Reply

And I feel like a stranger
In the land where I was born

www.youtube.com

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-04 02:11 PM | Reply

Just for perspective,

In 1787, when the Constitution was written, a crazed shooter with a flintlock rifle could kill 15 people in approximately 37 minutes.

#16 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-07-04 02:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Only way to stop this is more guns in the hands of the good guys.

#17 | Posted by byrdman at 2022-07-04 02:13 PM | Reply

"a crazed shooter with a flintlock rifle could kill 15 people in approximately 37 minutes."

^
He would just bring 15 flintlocks.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-04 02:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What a uniquely American way to celebrate the holiday.

#19 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2022-07-04 02:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"More people die in fireworks accidents."
#13 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Crazily enough, fireworks are significantly more regulated than the rifle used to murder these 6 people today.

#20 | Posted by bartimus at 2022-07-04 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 10

#20

The only fireworks I can buy in my state are "sparklers or fireworks that do not detonate or explode and do not leave the ground" but I could have an AR-15 in time to shoot up the county fireworks show this evening.

#21 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2022-07-04 02:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

- age 18-20

This seems to be the trend, eh?

It's how the NRA measures the effectiveness of their marketing; reaching younger niches all the time.

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-04 02:29 PM | Reply

"All of a sudden the -------- care about gun violence in Illinois."

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-04 02:39 PM | Reply

Soon you'll hear some politicians saying it's too soon to talk about this tragedy for political purposes. Note they're also the ones who believe it's too soon to talk about Uvalde.

And too soon to talk about Buffalo.

Hell, they think it's too soon to talk about Sandy Hook.

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-04 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

too soon to talk about Buffalo.

Did anyone actually talk about Buffalo?

It got less attention than Dylann Roof killing a church full of black parishioners.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-04 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

More people die in fireworks accidents

Too bad the gunman just didn't turn the gun on himself first before doing what he did, then you'd have an equivalency.

#26 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-07-04 03:02 PM | Reply

Not including this event, Chicago saw 55 people shot, 7 killed in 4th of July weekend violence since Friday evening. This is every weekend in Chicago. Street Pastor Donovan Price "Fourth of July weekend has proven itself to be what it's going to be. The numbers aren't what last year were. However, that is not a sign that's it's getting better. That's just the ebb and flow of violence."

#27 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2022-07-04 03:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

We must fortify parades and arm those who are in the parade to protect spectators..

#28 | Posted by HeeHaw at 2022-07-04 03:10 PM | Reply

This is the fault of the city for making the rooftops along the parade route a Gun Free Zone.

Basically handed him tactical superiority on a silver platter.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-04 03:13 PM | Reply

It had to be a Muslim.

Close.

It had to be an undocumented, black, transgender, Muslim, female, liberal, commie. Who is a member of Antifa, carrying a BLM flag.

100% guaranteed.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-04 03:17 PM | Reply

Trump-backed Illinois MAGAt says "let's move on and celebrate" after the latest mass killing.

www.rawstory.com

#31 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Freedom isn't being able to own and carry slew of guns. Freedom is being able to go to school, church, grocery shopping, a concert, or a 4th of July parade without being gunned down.

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Re: #27

Why do conservatives feel that the liberals fight against gun violence is only related to rural issues? I've lived in a big city my whole life and there have been anti-gun, anti-violence demonstrations and rallies almost monthly as long as I can remember.

#33 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2022-07-04 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#4 Seeing the kids start to haul ass away from gunfire is the new American tradition.

This is one way to promote fitness.

.ps this is a small price to pay so that I can pose with my guns.

#34 | Posted by bored at 2022-07-04 03:35 PM | Reply

What a horrible tragedy. You can't even feel safe at a parade anymore because of crazy people and hate.

#35 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-07-04 03:42 PM | Reply


I've lived in a big city my whole life and there have been anti-gun, anti-violence demonstrations and rallies almost monthly as long as I can remember.

Because nothing is actually being done about it in the cities, sure protest, but we have elected very liberal DA's. For some reason, its strange to me, they aren't prosecuting criminals using weapons.

Prosecutors reject charges against 5 suspects in deadly gang-related gunfight in Austin: It's just like the Wild West'
chicago.suntimes.com

If we were serious about gun crime we would at least charge people that were arrested and using weapons as part of a deadly shoot out... no?

My biggest complaint about new laws is that they won't be enforced, just like the current laws aren't being enforced. Equal enforcement, by many, is considered racist. But IMO the communities that need the enforcement the most are those with the least enforcement of the laws because its considered racist.

#36 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 03:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What a horrible tragedy. You can't even feel safe at a parade anymore because of crazy people and hate.

It's permeating the peoples mindset to be sure.

#37 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 03:43 PM | Reply

Is this the part of the thread where IAMRUNT starts babbling about crisis actors?

#38 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 03:50 PM | Reply

Please please please, every sane politician needs to remind everyone who the politicians are who do everything they can to make sure that crazy people have access to firearms.

#39 | Posted by bus_driver at 2022-07-04 03:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We dont need gun regulation, we just need every square inch of public space protected by armed guards. Simple solution.

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-04 03:55 PM | Reply

My biggest complaint about new laws is that they won't be enforced, just like the current laws aren't being enforced. Equal enforcement, by many, is considered racist. But IMO the communities that need the enforcement the most are those with the least enforcement of the laws because its considered racist.

#36 | Posted by oneironaut

So vote for the party that wants to enforce them instead of the one that weakens enforcement agencies.

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-04 03:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"You can't even feel safe at a parade anymore because of crazy people and hate."

So?
The Constitution doesn't say you have a right to Safety.

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-04 03:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Got a lot of close friends in Highland Park. They are in lockdown in their homes.

The Terrorist is still at large.

---- you gunlusting emeffers.

Highland Park has a large Jewish Population.

#43 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2022-07-04 03:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Trump-backed Illinois MAGAt says "let's move on and celebrate" after the latest mass killing."

A bit like the opening scene in Brazil.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-04 04:00 PM | Reply

"Join or Die"

"Sic Semper Tyrannis"

"Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem"

"Qui transtulit sustinet"

"Dum Spiro Spero"

"Fatti maschil, Parole femine"

"Excelsior!"

"Liberty and Independence"

"Liberty and Prosperity"

"Virtue, Liberty, and Independence"

"Wisdom, Justice, and Moderation"

"Hope!"

Happy Birthday America!

Here's to many many more and may we someday actually live up to our creed.

Cheers.

Semper Fi.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-04 04:08 PM | Reply

#45 was posted under the previous headline. Haven't been watching the news.

Maybe I should have added "stay away from big crowds" ...

#46 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-04 04:18 PM | Reply

And don't forget your body armor!!

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-04 04:22 PM | Reply

#27 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

The only thing more expected than this massacre was your defense of it.

#48 | Posted by Zed at 2022-07-04 04:34 PM | Reply

There will be a big fireworks show in my town at sunset. Does anyone care to estimate the number of AR-15s and other firearms there tonight? Only a fool would be in attendance; only a child abuser would bring their kids along.

#49 | Posted by Zed at 2022-07-04 04:36 PM | Reply

Zed

Do you ever have a post that doesn't include a straw man?

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-04 04:37 PM | Reply

Well....at least we can be sure this guy isn't a nationalist.

To be one of them one must first give a damn about the nation.

The sniper position makes it clear this was premeditated.

Could this be like the sicko that shot concert goers in Las Vegas?

#51 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 04:37 PM | Reply

Zed

Do you ever have a post that doesn't include a straw man?

#50 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Do you ever have a post that doesn't illustrate your pure, right-wing evil?

#52 | Posted by Zed at 2022-07-04 04:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The sniper position makes it clear this was premeditated.

#51 | POSTED BY TOR

Well, I guess this could be almost anyone.

But we all know who it's most likely to be.

#53 | Posted by Zed at 2022-07-04 04:41 PM | Reply

What a horrible tragedy. You can't even feel safe at a parade anymore because of crazy people and hate.

#35 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Crazy people and hate exist in every country. Mass shootings are mostly in america because of our insane gun laws.

#54 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-04 04:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"But we all know who it's most likely to be."

It's not that there are no black rampage killers, mass murderers, or serial killers in America it's simply a fact that in this country they tend to be white and male.

For example I know in 2016 there was a black guy who went on a horrible shooting spree in Dallas but I don't think there has been another one since.

to be fair there are rampage killers that aren't black or white.

#55 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 04:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Since Congress would only fund an 800-man Army in 1789, and left the rest of national defense up to militia armed with flintlock rifles in time of conflict, we are left to endure daily mass shootings 232 years later despite 1.2 million active-duty service members.

#56 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-07-04 05:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

#36 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT Flag: Newsworthy

...because for some reason, I can't flag any post using 2021 iMac on Safari.

#57 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-07-04 05:25 PM | Reply

But we all know who it's most likely to be.
#53 | POSTED BY ZED

You?

#58 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-07-04 05:26 PM | Reply


So vote for the party that wants to enforce them instead of the one that weakens enforcement agencies.
#41 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Can you read?? Its hilarious you got newsworthy, people are ------- idiots.

As Democrat, I am asking which party would that be? Because one party doesn't want any restrictions, and the other doesn't want to enforce them because of the racist "oppression".

Democrats are the ones weakening prosecution, if we don't prosecute, no one will enforce why bother.

While I am for more control, I do find it interesting that we are seeing a spike in gun violence, when the laws haven't changed, and as our justice system is collapsing. The desire for more laws is just not going to do anything to anyone, until justice is served.

#59 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 05:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's not that there are no black rampage killers, mass murderers, or serial killers in America it's simply a fact that in this country they tend to be white and male.

This is true.

But how does it play out statistically? My guess is the poor commit more gun crimes, and they occur more in poorer communities, where enforcement is low. Who lives statistically in poor communities? I would also state that violence is what creates large swaths of our poverty, more than anything else.

Allowing violence slows or stops investment in a community. Investment of peoples time and money.

How long does it take for a town to recover from riots? Those communities are poorer for the violence.

25 Years Later, Los Angeles Hasn't Recovered From The Rodney King Riots. Why?
www.huffpost.com

#60 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 06:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It looks to me like "the person of interest" is from the area as this seems to be his grandfather's obituary:

Robert E. Crimo Sr.
www.kelleyspaldingfuneralhome.com

#61 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 06:29 PM | Reply

Bobby likes tattos:
www.cnn.com

#62 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 06:36 PM | Reply

Another INCEL

www.mystateline.com

#63 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-07-04 06:36 PM | Reply

He looks like a cartoon character...

#64 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-04 06:44 PM | Reply

Here's another photo:

www.the-sun.com

#65 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 06:47 PM | Reply

The suspect sure has a bunch of ugly and stupid tattoos.

#66 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 06:50 PM | Reply

Can you read?? Its hilarious you got newsworthy, people are ------- idiots.

#59 | Posted by oneironaut

You got that right. Some people can't tell which party has been trying to pass and enforce more sensible gun laws, and which party always fight against that.

#67 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-04 06:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

And here's a photo from his fb page:

nypost.com

#68 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 06:55 PM | Reply

Gal it looks like he took that photo in his parents bedroom.

....Did he murder them?

#69 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 07:00 PM | Reply

#68 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

That's standard issue Antifa gear with a rainbow jacket.

#70 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-07-04 07:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What kind of cross is that white one??

#71 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-04 07:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#59 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Another NW flag. The left won't even prosecute known gang members.

#72 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-07-04 07:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#60 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Wow. ONEIRON churning out the NW posts. Is there no debate from the left besides hurling insults?

#73 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-07-04 07:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"That's standard issue Antifa gear with a rainbow jacket."

Rainbow jacket and red (rose?) flower tattoo = Antifa? What is that symbol on the dresser? Also Antifa?

#74 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 07:16 PM | Reply

Gal's 68 looks like a white supremacists cross in the photo.

#75 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-04 07:17 PM | Reply

Dude kinda gives me Clownshack vibes

#76 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-07-04 07:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Rainbow jacket?

Someone has never seen a rainbow.

#77 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 07:19 PM | Reply

That's standard issue Antifa gear with a rainbow jacket.

#70 | Posted by SheepleSchism

That was pretty funny when mark meadows started saying they should blame antifa for 1/6 even though he knew it wasn't them.

Your cult leader taught you well.

#78 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-04 07:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Gal's 68 looks like a white supremacists cross in the photo.

#75 | Posted by LauraMohr

It looks similar to this white pride symbol:

imdiversity.com

#79 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-04 07:49 PM | Reply

That's standard issue Antifa gear with a rainbow jacket.

#70 | Posted by Schizotrumpgasm

i.imgur.com

#80 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 07:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

According to Fox News:

Crimo is also known as "Awake the Rapper."

IMDB describes Crimo as a "six foot Hip hop phenom" born on Sept. 20, 2000. "He's the middle child of three and of Italian descent."

Crimo began uploading his music to the internet at age 11, but first gained traction with his 2016 track "By The Pond" featuring Atlas, according to IMDB. His estimated net worth is "$100 thousand."

The rapper released a cryptic track called "Are You Awake" on Oct. 15, 2021. The track appears to suggest that Crimo was planning a life-defining act beyond his ability to stop. The video includes drawings of a man aiming a rifle at another person.

"Like a sleepwalker, I am unable to stop and think," he says in the track. "My actions will be valiant and my thought is unnecessary. I know what I have to do, I know what's in it, not only for me, but for everyone else."

"There is no past or future, just the now," he adds. "It is more abstract than I can ever imagine. I can feel the atmosphere pushing me in. It's unstoppable, like a wave pulling me under, I can't breathe without it."

"I need to leave now, I need to just do it. It is my destiny, everything has led up to this," Crimo says. "Nothing can stop me, not even myself. Is there such thing as free will, or has this been planned out, like a cosmic recipe?"

"It is what I've been waiting for in the back of my head, ready to be awakened, It is what I've been sent
here to do, like a sleepwalker," he adds.


www.msn.com

#81 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 08:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Shooter smiles draped in Trump flag

imgur.com

BTW, they just caught him:

Suspect captured in shooting at July 4 parade in Chicago's Highland Park suburb

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/shooting-reported-july-4th-parade-route-chicago-suburb-county- sheriff-2022-07-04/

#82 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-04 08:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

drug abuse=ugly

#83 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 08:07 PM | Reply

Theres two twitter feeds, I think used to promote his rapping.
twitter.com

Which I just learned was suspended, had all sort of #LockThemUp tweets regarding J6.
twitter.com

#84 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 08:13 PM | Reply

#79 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY A

My guess he just created it, its not complicated ... I don't think he was Antifa, but wanted to be popular to sell his music.

#85 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 08:14 PM | Reply

Some people can't tell which party has been trying to pass and enforce more sensible gun laws, and which party always fight against that.
#67 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Some people can't understand if you don't enforce the laws it really doesn't matter what you pass.

#86 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 08:16 PM | Reply

BTW: I still promote the idea of raising the age to 25 to purchase weapon.

But I am not seeing how it will change anything, if we don't enforce it.

#87 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 08:18 PM | Reply

The symbol in the pic in Gal's #68 looks similar to this:

yt3.ggpht.com

Suomen Sisu was described as a "Nazi spirited" group by the Finnish newspaper Lnsivyl. White nationlist, anti-immigrant, etc etc

en.wikipedia.org

#88 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-04 08:20 PM | Reply

Here's his Awake Fan Club account recorded ....
twitter.com

#89 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 08:21 PM | Reply

Awake The Rapper - "Toy Soldier" (RE-UPLOAD)
www.youtube.com

#90 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 08:22 PM | Reply

One of his videos:

"The video titled "Toy Soldier" is an animated cartoon that begins with a student texting in class while Crimo can be heard rapping "---- this world." It cuts between images of a heavily armed shooter going inside a school and opening fire and then engaging with police outside. The final scene shows the shooter lying in a pool of blood."

www.youtube.com

#91 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-04 08:23 PM | Reply

Confirmed capture of Crimo:

Highland Park parade shooting suspect captured

www.abc27.com

He's from Highland Park, an affluent community north of Chitown. His dad ran unsuccessfully for mayor there.

Nothing like allowing super easy purchases of assault weapons to angry young men, eh?

#92 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-04 08:38 PM | Reply

There's no way a store in IL sold him that gun.

I've heard the sound it made that thing(s) was autmatic.

#93 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 08:46 PM | Reply

#27 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

False and go piss yourself, wench.

#94 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-07-04 08:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Robert Crimo wearing a shirt with Pepe the Frog. A known Alt-right movement symbol and the defamation league categorized it as a hate symbol. pic.twitter.com/X9LUdC5UAw" Greg Hatfield"#LGBTQ" (@gregoryh325) July 4, 2022


Hm. No doubt that red hat has a slogan on it (MAGA)

#95 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-04 08:51 PM | Reply

Robert Crimo wearing a shirt with Pepe the Frog. A known Alt-right movement symbol and the defamation league categorized it as a hate symbol. pic.twitter.com/X9LUdC5UAw" Greg Hatfield"#LGBTQ" (@gregoryh325) July 4, 2022


Hm, I wonder what that red cap says on the front? (/snark off)

#96 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-04 08:52 PM | Reply

Ever notice how when ever the right claims a mass murderer is associated with antifa it turns out the murderer is a trump fan?

#97 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 08:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Crimo apprehended alive. I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW THE POLICE MANAGE TO TAKE MASS SHOOTERS ALIVE BUT CANT LET BLACK FOLKS SURVIVE A TRAFFIC STOP WITHOUT 90 BULLETS FIRED. Like how? How does this work???" Stella Safo, MD MPH (@AmmahStarr) July 4, 2022

#98 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-04 08:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The rapper released a cryptic track called "Are You Awake" on Oct. 15, 2021. The track appears to suggest that Crimo was planning a life-defining act beyond his ability to stop. The video includes drawings of a man aiming a rifle at another person.

Here's the video:

www.youtube.com

#99 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 09:01 PM | Reply

Maybe we need less bleeding heart liberals and change the direction of society.

#100 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-04 09:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Maybe we need less bleeding heart liberals and change the direction of society.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-07-04 09:02 PM | REPLY

So less Christ like behavior then?? That's what you are asking for Dummkopf.

#101 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-04 09:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

New Shooter was a trump supporter same as the Vegas shooter.

Suck it trumpers.

#102 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 09:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The left won't even prosecute known gang members.
#72 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

WTF are you talking about? Baseless --------.

Black Americans are incarcerated in state prisons at nearly 5 times the rate of white Americans even though blacks only make up 12.4% of the population.

Is this only taking place in red states/cities? You certainly don't know one way or the other.

Swallow it.

#103 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-07-04 09:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Robert Crimo wearing a shirt with Pepe the Frog. A known Alt-right movement symbol and the defamation league categorized it as a hate symbol. pic.twitter.com/X9LUdC5UAw" Greg Hatfield"#LGBTQ" (@gregoryh325) July 4, 2022"

This looks like a deranged Pepe meme on his twitter account, but I don't know what it means:

twitter.com

#104 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 09:07 PM | Reply

Maybe we need less bleeding heart liberals and change the direction of society.
#100 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

How does that work, Bill Johnson?

Be specific.

#105 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-07-04 09:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I was listening to a live performance of a country singer Cody Johnson.

He was singing some older country songs.

One older song Mama don't let you babies grow up to cowboys. He changed a line..don't let your cowboys grow up to be babies.

Interesting guy.

Song from his latest album.

Pretty good.

m.youtube.com

#106 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-04 09:09 PM | Reply

Frank Conniff
@FrankConniff
Six dead, one for each Supreme Court Justice who voted to make sure it happens again.
3:53 PM Jul 4, 2022Twitter Web App

#107 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 09:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#106 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Bill Johnson's attempt at being as cryptic as the latest mass murderer.

WTF is going on in your head? Should we be worried?

#108 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-07-04 09:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The left won't even prosecute known gang members."

CA has dozens being prosecuted by people on the left right now.

#109 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-04 09:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

His live version on the Tonight Show was better than the released video I thought.

m.youtube.com

#110 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-04 09:22 PM | Reply

#106 | Posted by BillJohnson

Sounds pathetic.

#111 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-07-04 09:24 PM | Reply

Gal,

Maybe only real men get it.

#112 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-04 09:27 PM | Reply

Some people can't understand if you don't enforce the laws it really doesn't matter what you pass.

#86 | Posted by oneironaut

Some people dont understand that one party runs for government positions just so they can cripple government.

#113 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-04 09:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe only real men get it.

#112 | Posted by BillJohnson

Real men dont need church to prevent them from sleeping with other men.

#114 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-04 09:29 PM | Reply

Video shows arrest of Highland Park parade shooting suspect

www.youtube.com


Citizen's arrest!?

#115 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-04 09:30 PM | Reply

CA has dozens being prosecuted by people on the left right now.

Oh well that convinces us! :)

#82 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

He was mocking Trump supporters ... just like this image ..
twitter.com

If you don't know who is pretending to be ....
www.animationmagazine.net

#116 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 09:31 PM | Reply

More photos and another creepy video of Crimo filmed in a school

twitter.com

#117 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 09:34 PM | Reply

Some people dont understand that one party runs for government positions just so they can cripple government.

Which party is that ?? #DefundPolice Because thats me, I am for that ... The destroy ICE? That's me again, OpenBorders ...

I am Democrat ... Lets enforce the laws, oh no those a Democrat DA's ...

So whos doing the crippling of the government???

So are you a MAGAt now, I can't keep track of you.

#118 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 09:34 PM | Reply

So... he goes by Awake the rapper.

Giving rappers a bad name is hard werk.

#119 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-04 09:36 PM | Reply

#118 | Posted By IAMRUNT

You're the MAGA loser who cheered for the filth who left a pile of dead cops on 1-6.

#120 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 09:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fifty Shades of Whey
@davenewworld_2
Highland Park shooter Robert E. Crimo III cheers as Trump's motorcade passes by

twitter.com

#121 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 09:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When he is dressed as Waldo, he looks like he is with some real Trumpers:

twitter.com

Since he's alive, maybe he'll tell police what his motive was.

#122 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 09:46 PM | Reply

Rein,

You gotta be pretty brain dead to think all is the result of politics.

It's poor parenting. Poor education. Poor self esteem. Missing value system.

#123 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-04 09:48 PM | Reply

PS Unless that image is photoshopped. I think he might be one of those people who hates all govt, the left and the right.

#124 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 09:49 PM | Reply

You gotta be pretty brain dead to think all is the result of politics.
It's poor parenting. Poor education. Poor self esteem. Missing value system.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-07-04 09:48 PM |

That's why he is a Trumper.

#125 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-04 09:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Gal,

Until liberals learn and accept their contribution to all this, it's going to be a long time addressing this crisis.

They are not to blame but are part of the problem.

#126 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-04 09:51 PM | Reply

Does the 47 tattoo mean he wants Trump to be the 47th president? Inquiring minds want to know.

#127 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 09:52 PM | Reply

Gal,

How brain dead to bring Trump into this.

#128 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-04 09:52 PM | Reply

Until liberals learn and accept their contribution to all this, it's going to be a long time addressing this crisis.
They are not to blame but are part of the problem.
POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-07-04 09:51 PM | REPLY

We had no part in fueling the hatred that this guy espouses. He is clearly extreme right wingers. Not a part of the liberal left.

#129 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-04 09:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Until liberals learn and accept their contribution to all this, it's going to be a long time addressing this crisis.

#126 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

This is you attempting to ease your conscience and, I hope, failing.

#130 | Posted by Zed at 2022-07-04 10:02 PM | Reply

It's poor parenting.

posted by Lady B

His dad is also a Trump supporting loser.

#131 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 10:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


Does the 47 tattoo mean he wants Trump to be the 47th president? Inquiring minds want to know.

#127 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

No this is about being a rapper and understanding the culture; AmeriKKKan Korruption, by Steez says, 47, is a perfect expression of balance in the world, representing the tension between the fourth chakra"the heart"and the seventh"the brain.

#132 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 10:10 PM | Reply


It's poor parenting. Poor education. Poor self esteem. Missing value system.
#123 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I agree, I am not sure how much is lockdown related, I tihnk quite a bit;, I see youth today acting out, not to this level; by many of today's youth.

Trying to be seen is how I look at it.

#133 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 10:13 PM | Reply

Zed,

No...I'm good.

#134 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-04 10:16 PM | Reply

#132 Ah, okay. Got it.

#135 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-04 10:48 PM | Reply

Another shooting in Phili before fireworks

twitter.com

#136 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 11:12 PM | Reply

Two officers shot ...

twitter.com

#137 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 11:16 PM | Reply

Active shooter situation .. in Philly

twitter.com

#138 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-04 11:17 PM | Reply

More videos are being posted on social media showing a chaotic and frightening scene at a Highland Park Independence Day parade. While most were fleeing the scene, Dr. David Baum was running toward those falling. "I saw horrific, devastating injuries, the kind that you normally see in a war," Dr. Baum continued.

He continued helping other emergency responders as those with injuries continued to seek medical attention.

"I don't think I need to describe the horrific nature of what the bullets did to those bodies, but it was horrific," said Baum of the injuries. "As a physician for 33 years, blood doesn't bother me. But seeing people's heads blown up, and bodies eviscerated, would be disturbing to anyone who was there besides maybe a physician."


www.rawstory.com

The money Russia pumped into the GOP/NRA is really paying off for them.

#139 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-04 11:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe they should've had only one door on the parade route.

#140 | Posted by cbob at 2022-07-04 11:35 PM | Reply

" ? #DefundPolice Because thats me, I am for that ... The destroy ICE? That's me again, OpenBorders ...I am Democrat ."

No, you're not, you lying SOS. No Democrat speaks like that.

Why do you feel you have to pretend to be a Democrat to get respect? Did your usual, standard left-bashing comments get ignored, so you decided criticism from "inside the family" would be taken more seriously?

How does it feel to find out none of your ideas are taken seriously, regardless if you pretend to be a democrat, or actually remain who you really are?

#141 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-04 11:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@ BillyBoy Johnson, --!
This guy is one of yours. Man up for once in your miserable life and own it!

#142 | Posted by a_monson at 2022-07-05 12:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

BILL JOHNSON

From Crimo's Facebook page. Crimo wearing a Trump flag like a cape

#143 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-05 12:55 AM | Reply

Correction: That pic of Crimo wearing a Trump flag is from Crimo's Twitter page.

#144 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-05 12:56 AM | Reply

The ages of those injured ranged from as young as 8 years old to as old as 85 years old.

A surgeon who worked on some of the victims described the wounds as something he's never seen. "War wounds" ... decapitated limbs and the like.

AR-15s don't just create bullet wounds. They're purposefully designed to do incredible damage to the human body.

#145 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-05 01:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Witness Dr. David Baum describes the scene:

VIDEO: www.nbcnews.com

#146 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-05 01:16 AM | Reply

Wow another Trumpanzee making Amurica great uhgin.

You pigs suck

#147 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-07-05 03:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I've heard the sound it made that thing(s) was autmatic.[sic]

I'm skeptical of your experience.

If you can count the rounds as they're fired it is semi-auto. www.youtube.com If a half dozen rounds are fired before you can count one. It's full auto.

You only need a couple minutes of this video to see what I'm saying. www.youtube.com

I suggest skipping their bul****t and getting straight to the shooting.

#148 | Posted by et_al at 2022-07-05 04:33 AM | Reply

A,

"This guy is one of yours".

Frankly...that comment makes you sound pretty extreme and scary.

I know you're wrong but I also know you actually believe what you posted.

Scary.

#149 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 06:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Presumably shootings don't fit into the slot the Republican Party reserves for those who engage in "legitimate political discourse."

The important caveat:"presumably," because - judged by their inactions - it's probably a close call.

#150 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-07-05 07:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I suggest skipping their bul****t and getting straight to the shooting."

New video shows beginning of 4th of July attack in Illinois; more than 60 shots in 20 seconds
twitter.com

#151 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-05 07:28 AM | Reply

47 is for Agent 47, the main character in Hitman, the video game he was obsessed with . The symbol in Gals pic (which looks nothing like the Celtic cross Laura compared it to) shows up as the avatar for 4thlevelinfo who posts on sites relating to drum and bass tracks. 4th level info means highly confidential.

Seriously, the guys a -------- crazy nut. Why are you all so obsessed with fighting over which side of the tree he fell from?

#152 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 08:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mir,

I asked the question recently about video games and how they might be contributing or at least a warning sign.

#153 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 08:29 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I asked the question recently about video games and how they might be contributing or at least a warning sign."

Millions of people play FPS games and a couple a year wind up living out their fantasies IRL, and you're interested in drawing a meaningful correlation between the two?

I know you're wrong but I also know you actually believe what you posted.
Scary.

#154 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-07-05 08:36 AM | Reply

Frankly...that comment makes you sound pretty extreme and scary.

I know you're wrong but I also know you actually believe what you posted.

He's right. You're wrong. He is part of, and wrote music supporting fascism. He is exactly what Trump is all about.
He is 100% one of yours. Trump flag draped and all.

#155 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-05 08:37 AM | Reply

Why are you all so obsessed with fighting over which side of the tree he fell from?

#152 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7 AT 2022-07-05 08:20 AM | REPLY | FLAG:EYE ROLL

Because the "tree he fell from" is hell-bent on ensuring that crazies have access to weapons used for mass killing. In fact, I'm willing to bet they hope to get weak-minded crazies armed to the manteats because they are the most gullible and ready to go for the okey-doke.

The cl0wns are losing this one.

#156 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-07-05 08:58 AM | Reply

"47 is for Agent 47, the main character in Hitman, the video game he was obsessed with . The symbol in Gals pic (which looks nothing like the Celtic cross Laura compared it to) shows up as the avatar for 4thlevelinfo who posts on sites relating to drum and bass tracks. 4th level info means highly confidential."

Okay, so not a rap music reference. Looks like "Hitman: Agent 47" was a movie as well:

Genetically engineered from conception to be the perfect killing machine, he's the culmination of decades of research, endowed with unprecedented strength, speed, stamina and intelligence. Known only as Agent 47 (Rupert Friend), his latest target is a corporation that plans to unlock the secret of his past to create an army of killers even more powerful than him. With help from a young woman, the elite assassin confronts revelations about his own origins in an epic battle with his deadliest foe.

#157 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-05 09:09 AM | Reply

Yav,

I'm no expert but here is my take on the situation.

We're seeing a combination of the lack of discipline and disregarding the social contract but mixed with the gun culture of the right and you have armed angry young men willing to kill people they don't even know.

Sort of a perfect storm picking up the worst of every ideology they encounter.

I wouldn't guess their motives but they lack restraint and are armed.

#158 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 09:15 AM | Reply

What I see is you putting all your "wishes" on the suspect without any actual knowledge, Bill.
You are projecting all the things you find wrong on him and making him a scapegoat.
This allows you to reject any culpability for your own beliefs and the enabling you're a part of.
Trump enabled the haters to come out and act.

January 6th.

#159 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-05 09:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You know, it is possible that this shooter does not fit into a conventional political box. He strikes me as a very disturbed individual, most likely an incel who always had trouble with women (see the video he made that went from a love letter to a girl in school to him shooting up the school), and maybe he hated himself and everyone else. A weird, unfocused, angry kid adrift on the sea of life.

#160 | Posted by cbob at 2022-07-05 09:29 AM | Reply

#158 ...
For once I might agree with you, Bill. Just based on what I have seen and read, he could be somebody who simply flirts with different ideologies but adheres to none.

#161 | Posted by cbob at 2022-07-05 09:35 AM | Reply

Shooter lived with his father, who supported 2nd amendment rights and Trump:

drudge.com

Of course, the same could be said of millions of Americans, so unless the shooter talks to the police, we will never know what drove him.

#162 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-05 09:37 AM | Reply

"Millions of people play FPS games and a couple a year wind up living out their fantasies IRL, and you're interested in drawing a meaningful correlation between the two?"

Millions of people own guns and a couple a year wind up living out their fantasies,

Virtually EVERY mass shooter plays FPS games. That IS a correlation. Didn't say it was the cause. But you can't discount it as a contributing factor. The games are addictive by design.

#163 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 09:45 AM | Reply

I jus' love how the Retort cl0wn brigade is trying to push back with their decades-long cowboy politicin' that started with Karl and Trudblossum. Republicl0wns started the blanca-basura tough talk back then. Then it devolved into gun totin' Sarah Paloonietues... smearing a thick layer of muktuk disgrace all over McCain's campaign. The cl0wn brigade's answer to Hillary Clinton... and now the Trumpanzees ooo ooo oooing their way to glory via highway AR15... because they gotta constitutional right to defend themselves over anyone that hurts their feefees even iffin it means letting a nutjob get by them...

I think the gun culture changed with the Dirty Harry, Rambo era... tough guy revenge movies... a social movement that evolved after getting an @$$ kicking in Vietnam. The more wars we lose the worse it gets.

#164 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-07-05 10:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

>>Millions of people own guns and a couple a year wind up living out their fantasies,
#163 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

According to Gun Violence Archive, a non-profit research organisation which defines mass shootings as at least four injuries, there have been 309 so far this year. That is approaching an average of two a day.

#165 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2022-07-05 10:47 AM | Reply

Yes, I agree, wonder why you clipped half my post? To deliberately remove the context perhaps? I did not choose the word "couple" that descended from the post I was quoting in the first half of my post ... ... , but you knew that.

#166 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 11:18 AM | Reply

"You are projecting all the things you find wrong on him and making him a scapegoat."

Wow, imagine that. The shooter is merely a "scapegoat". He should not be held responsible. It's the Republicans fault.

#167 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 11:23 AM | Reply

Wow, imagine that. The shooter is merely a "scapegoat". He should not be held responsible. It's the Republicans fault.

I knew some idiot would say that. And you just complained in #166? FO.

#168 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-05 11:35 AM | Reply

Sorry Yav ... .if you have some plausible explanation for calling a man who stood on a rooftop and shot over 40 people a "scapegoat", I'm all ears. Maybe I missed the context.

#169 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 11:41 AM | Reply

" Do you ever have a post that doesn't illustrate your pure, right-wing evil?

#52 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2022-07-04 04:39 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1"

Sadly, your view has become increasingly common on the left. If someone disagrees with your personal politics they aren't wrong or misguided. They are evil.

I can't imagine carrying the amount of hate in my body that a typical leftist carries. It must be exhausting.

#170 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-05 11:48 AM | Reply

>>wonder why you clipped half my post? I did not choose the word "couple"

Millions of people play FPS games and a couple a year wind up living out their fantasies
Millions of people own guns and a couple a year wind up living out their fantasies

You quoted a prior post, and you deliberately swapped in your own words.
Not sure what point you were trying to make.

#171 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2022-07-05 11:54 AM | Reply

Cbob,

And I guarantee the boy smokes a lot of pot.

#172 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 11:57 AM | Reply

Which party is that ?? #DefundPolice Because thats me, I am for that ... The destroy ICE? That's me again, OpenBorders ...

I am Democrat ... Lets enforce the laws, oh no those a Democrat DA's ...

So whos doing the crippling of the government???

So are you a MAGAt now, I can't keep track of you.

#118 | Posted by oneironaut

You still think anyone buys that?

There aren't any real open borders dems. You're a trumper who poses as one so that you can say dems want open borders.

Funny how dems dont have to pose as crazy repubs to make repubs look crazy.

#173 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 11:59 AM | Reply

Sadly, your view has become increasingly common on the left. If someone disagrees with your personal politics they aren't wrong or misguided. They are evil.

I can't imagine carrying the amount of hate in my body that a typical leftist carries. It must be exhausting.

#170 | Posted by BellRinger

That's what happens one one party becomes the fascist cult of a con man and tries to overthrow democracy. Everyone with a brain calls them out for being evil.

Dont whine about your actions having consquences.

#174 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 12:00 PM | Reply

"Sadly, your view has become increasingly common on the left. If someone disagrees with your personal politics they aren't wrong or misguided. They are evil."

This is also the view that has become increasingly common on he right. If someone disagrees with their personal politics, they aren't wrong or misguided. They are evil. Sometimes references to Satan are thrown in for good measure.

#175 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-05 12:01 PM | Reply

Maybe I missed the context.

My post (with emphasis and explicit declarations):

"What I see is you putting all your "wishes" on the suspect without any actual knowledge, Bill.
You are projecting all the things you find wrong on him and (you are) making him a scapegoat (for your own complicity)
This allows you (Bill) to reject any culpability for your own beliefs and the enabling you're a part of.
Trump enabled the haters to come out and act."

The shooter is 100% responsible for his actions, and that in no way lets you and the gun-bunnies that enabled and made sure he had plenty of high-powered weapons off the hook. It doesn't allow you to paint him as just another nutter to salve your conscience.

No, you don't get to make him a scapegoat any more so than Bill does.

So let's be clear. I haven't made him a scapegoat at all. It is you that is trying to do that so you can escape any culpability. You joined Bill by posting #167.

#176 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-05 12:13 PM | Reply

Yav,

You're making 2nd Amendment supporters the scapegoat.

You should have stopped at "The shooter is 100% responsible for his actions".

#177 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 12:40 PM | Reply

#177 -I am making you culpable, Bill.

More specifically I'm making those that reinterpreted the 2nd Amendment in the late '70's-'80's to today, from what it was understood to mean for over a hundred years prior. For those that specifically pushed this reinterpretation, voted for it, and bought into the lie and fought all reasonable changes for sanity. I'm holding you and those like you responsible for making weapons like he used, ubiquitous.

Congratulations.

#178 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-05 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

According to Gun Violence Archive, a non-profit research organisation which defines mass shootings as at least four injuries, there have been 309 so far this year. That is approaching an average of two a day.

#165 | POSTED BY SCHIFFERBRAINS

Schools, shopping malls, grocery stores, now a parade. Where can kids go and not get shot at? Go Gunz!

#179 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-07-05 01:21 PM | Reply

You're making 2nd Amendment supporters the scapegoat.

You should have stopped at "The shooter is 100% responsible for his actions".

#177 | Posted by BillJohnson

The 2nd amendment is the difference between all other countries with violent nutjobs and the one country that gives violent nutjobs easy access to assault weapons and therefore has to hold active shooter drills in their schools.

#180 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 01:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I was wrong to blame this on a Muslim.My only basis for the claim is the angry white boy with a gun killing streak has been running so long I felt a different demographic was due.I apologize for my ignorance.

#181 | Posted by Scotty at 2022-07-05 03:32 PM | Reply

I was wrong to blame this on a Muslim.My only basis for the claim is the angry white boy with a gun killing streak has been running so long I felt a different demographic was due.I apologize for my ignorance.

#181 | Posted by Scotty

YOu should know by now that trump's cult of losers hates america more than muslims do.

#182 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 03:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

YOu should know by now that trump's cult of losers hates america more than muslims do.

#182 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 03:53 PM | Reply |

It looks like the "law abiding gun owners assn. of America" lost another member.

#183 | Posted by Scotty at 2022-07-05 04:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lone Wolf attacks are almost universally committed by people with mental illnesses.

They tend to look like the people in the community they attack and do tend to be male.

#184 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-05 04:50 PM | Reply

Ironic, isn't it, that fireworks are heavily regulated but AR-15-type weapons designed to kill as many people in as short an amount of time aren't?

#185 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-05 05:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#171
Original Post Miranda quoted : "Millions of people play FPS games and a couple a year wind up living out their fantasies
Miranda Added: "Millions of people own guns and a couple a year wind up living out their fantasies"

Shiffer posted: "You quoted a prior post, and you deliberately swapped in your own words.
Not sure what point you were trying to make."

Miranda answer: Yes, I swapped in 2 words to show how stupid the original sentence was....my irony meter was pinging. I guess you didn't get my point. I'll try harder next time.

#186 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 06:12 PM | Reply

First person shooter games exist in every modern country.

Active shooter drills in schools exist in ONE modern country - OURS.

Video games aren't the problem. Republicans are.

#187 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#176 He's the guy with the gun that shot all the people. He's a demented murderer, not a scapegoat for me, Bill, you or anyone else. I'm not complicit and I didn't enable him any more than you did. I don't need a scapegoat. I don't have any culpability to escape.

You have no idea what I believe, how I voted or how I have lived my life. I have done far more to prevent gun violence in my lifetime than you can even begin to contemplate. What have YOU done about gun violence? Actually DONE, other than squeak out BS on a message board?

#188 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 06:34 PM | Reply

#180 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 01:29 PM | Reply | Flag:
The 2nd amendment is the difference between all other countries with violent nutjobs and the one country that gives violent nutjobs easy access to assault weapons and therefore has to hold active shooter drills in their schools.

Well Golly, The second amendment has been around a couple hundred years. Guns have always been easy to get. In the 60's you were allowed to join the rifle club and bring your gun to school. Switzerland has one of the highest weapon ownership rates in the world. No school shootings.

Maybe....just maybe, its the fact that we have MORE violent nutjobs than ever before......yeah, maybe its the people that are the problem.
Making the guns "harder to get" doesn't fix the people.

Most active shooter incidents are premeditated and well planned. At best, these new laws can delay their plan, or reduce the body count on the SHORT TERM until they adapt and overcome the obstacles in front of them. I'm all for that, because every life counts, but the delusion that any of these bills will solve the problem and end mass shootings is a delusion.

If only we could make the law really specific....ya know, like make it illegal to actually KILL people? Oh wait, that's already illegal. didn't stop any of them, did it?

And the political BS? Look at those 309 mass shootings. You may know the names of 10 or so white males, and declare right wing radicalism as the "cause" Look at the other 299 and tell me what you see.

#189 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 06:51 PM | Reply

How about this. Decriminalize prostitution nationwide and make it easy to arrange a "date" by app. Encourage groupon to offer discount coupons for the 18-25 year old age group. If these Incels could-------- some of them wouldn't be so full of rage and anger.

I'm being sarcastic, yes, but the root cause of so many of these incidents is a young man, raised on a steady diet of social media, porn and video games, who does not know how to interract with the opposite sex and feels entitled to a an intimate relationship, a nice car and a cool job. When he doesn't get these things handed to him (like he sees in social media, porn and video games) he is filled with rage and decides to get even with the community that denied him these entitlements.

THERE'S your problem. Getting the gun is a relatively small obstacle for somebody like that to overcome. Making it a little harder won't make much difference.

#190 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 07:02 PM | Reply

Mir,

"Encourage groupon to offer discount coupons for the 18-25 year old age group"

That's a good idea.

And send out something like EBT card...but it would be SEX card.

Taxpayers could pay to get them laid and save lives.

#191 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 07:07 PM | Reply

Mir,

And if you shoot someone your card is cancelled.

#192 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 07:08 PM | Reply

Well Golly, The second amendment has been around a couple hundred years. Guns have always been easy to get. In the 60's you were allowed to join the rifle club and bring your gun to school. Switzerland has one of the highest weapon ownership rates in the world. No school shootings.

Maybe....just maybe, its the fact that we have MORE violent nutjobs than ever before......yeah, maybe its the people that are the problem.
Making the guns "harder to get" doesn't fix the people.

Most active shooter incidents are premeditated and well planned. At best, these new laws can delay their plan, or reduce the body count on the SHORT TERM until they adapt and overcome the obstacles in front of them. I'm all for that, because every life counts, but the delusion that any of these bills will solve the problem and end mass shootings is a delusion.

If only we could make the law really specific....ya know, like make it illegal to actually KILL people? Oh wait, that's already illegal. didn't stop any of them, did it?

And the political BS? Look at those 309 mass shootings. You may know the names of 10 or so white males, and declare right wing radicalism as the "cause" Look at the other 299 and tell me what you see.

#189 | Posted by Miranda7

Military grade assault weapons have NOT been available for hundreds of years.

The number of guns per capita has also gone way up. There are more guns than people in america.

Every country has sickos. Every country has suffering. Only in america do we make it easy for suffering sickos to get weapons that allow them to easily kill dozens of people.

Now on top of that we have a fascist political movement that tells violent morons that they are being oppressed and cheated by marxist elites who want to take their guns and turn their kids gay. That WORSHIPS and SEXUALIZES gun ownership and features campaign ads with candidates shooting everything up with ridiculous guns that no one ever needs.

Gun ownership is like SUVs. Very few people needed SUVs. But they made insecure losers feel tough and masculine so they bought them, then everyone couldnt see over the tall SUVs anymore and felt unsafe, so they had to buy SUVs too just so they could see in traffic and wouldnt feel endangered.

#193 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 07:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Military grade assault weapons have NOT been available for hundreds of years."
Ya got me. Only about 100 years. My dad had a 1929 Tommy gun, fully automatic.

"The number of guns per capita has also gone way up. There are more guns than people in america."
Yeah, and most of them are in collectors safes. It only takes ONE gun to kill a lot of people.

"Every country has sickos. Every country has suffering. Only in america do we make it easy for suffering sickos to get weapons that allow them to easily kill dozens of people."

Yeah, you are right. We can make it HARDER for them to get the weapons, (but they will still get them). I'm all for that, but it won't SOLVE the problem. I'm all for getting that done, so we can skip to the part where you realize it didn't make any difference and move on to REAL solutions.

#194 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 07:45 PM | Reply

Mir,

Maybe part of the problem is American's are just FUBAR from overmarketing telling us we should have everything we want and liberals telling us to do everything we want.

#195 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 07:50 PM | Reply

Good Point. Speak Softly's "suffering sickos" are mostly just average dudes who aren't living the dream, but think they should be. Crimo was a wealthy kid in a wealthy suburb, an "aspiring rapper" who got laid off by Panera during COVID, collected two years of Pandemic unemployment and never went back.

When people decry this generation of young people, I'm quick to say, "Yes, but we raised them". We caused them to feel entitled to success and daily happiness. Hard work and good health is not good enough for our children. We raised them to feel "special" by making sure they had participation trophies and didn't get their feelings hurt. My generation was the first one where most Moms went to work everyday, and we made up for our guilty feelings by providing our kids with material things instead of solid values and attentive parenting.

The snowflakes are our fault.

#196 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-05 08:01 PM | Reply

Taxpayers could pay to get them laid and save lives.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-07-05 07:07 PM | REPLY

So taxpayers paying for sex yet you won't provide taxpayer dollars to pay for the abortions of the unwanted pregnancies caused by taxpayer funded sex for some incel?? Typical'Chreestaim"

#197 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-05 08:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mir,

All this mad reasoning has blended.

Capitalist's believe the ends justify the means. Only rule is don't get caught. Break all rules of sound financial planning for short term gains.

Liberals expect something for nothing. The government has the duty to provide a minimal lifestyle free of charge...well...free to them.

In short...madness.

#198 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 08:12 PM | Reply

Mir,

"The snowflakes are our fault."

No...don't do that to yourself...

"They" want you to be eat up with false guilt and shame.

"They" will manipulate you to conform with guilt and shame.

Conservatives and liberals alike use guilt and shame to achieve their goals.

There is real guilt and shame and it's time we learned the difference.

#199 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-05 08:26 PM | Reply

#196 Or maybe he really was mentally ill, hard to tell:

He also had a manifesto. One man who saw it wrote that "It is 28 pages long and is composed entirely of an undeciphered sequence of numbers. There is a coinciding video to Arcturus on YouTube, which is composed of footage from the music videos to On My Mind, out.of.this.world, and Toy Soldier. The numbers 23, 47, and 115 seem to be of significance in decoding Arcturus, however, Arcturus remains an unsolved mystery."

heavy.com

#200 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-05 08:27 PM | Reply

"The number of guns per capita has also gone way up. There are more guns than people in america."
Yeah, and most of them are in collectors safes. It only takes ONE gun to kill a lot of people.

"Every country has sickos. Every country has suffering. Only in america do we make it easy for suffering sickos to get weapons that allow them to easily kill dozens of people."

Yeah, you are right. We can make it HARDER for them to get the weapons, (but they will still get them). I'm all for that, but it won't SOLVE the problem. I'm all for getting that done, so we can skip to the part where you realize it didn't make any difference and move on to REAL solutions.

#194 | Posted by Miranda7

Ah the old "if it's not a perfect magic wand solution then there's no point."

Making it a lot harder to get weapons would save a lot of lives.
Making it impossible to get weapons that no one legitimately needs would save even more lives.

Your definition of REAL SOLUTIONS seems to be a magic wand. Those dont exist so we are limited to saving lives using the solutions that exist in the real world, like:

Making it way harder to get guns.
Raising the age to get guns - maybe to the point where the brain is fully developed, around age 25.
Requiring extensive training to get guns
Banning guns no one legitimately needs - Your rambo fantasies aren't worth children doing active shooter drills.
Making it way easier to take away someone's guns if they show any signs of being dangerous- Face tattoos included.
VASTLY improving mental health care, which will be very expensive.
Making the economy work for more than just the rich, so the non rich aren't so desperate and angry that they turn to gun violence to rob, enact punishment, or commit suicide
Ending the drug war.

Note that not a single one of those things would be supported by republicans.

#201 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 08:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe part of the problem is American's are just FUBAR from overmarketing telling us we should have everything we want and liberals telling us to do everything we want.

#195 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yeah that's it. Liberals telling you your gay urges are ok is the reason for mass shootings.

#202 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-05 08:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Someone needs to verify this is accurate. The claim is Awake47 is Crimo. Awake47 posted: "i say we just get rid of the blacks altogether" June 28 2022:

"It appears Crimo frequently watched videos showing scenes of death."

heavy.com

BREAKING: Robert E Crimo III, The #HighlandPark shooter, had an account on gore forum DocumentingReality and was a frequent poster. Here is one of his recent posts

Here are some of the gore threats made by the Highland Park shooter, Robert E Crimo III. Extremely disturbed person. Looks like he's been collecting death videos for years

Date of birth matched as well #HighlandPark Robert E Crimo III

twitter.com

#203 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-05 08:49 PM | Reply

#196 "Or maybe he really was mentally ill, hard to tell"
My point was in response to SS's use of the term "suffering" I think he IS mentally ill, just not "suffering"

#194 "Ah the old "if it's not a perfect magic wand solution then there's no point."
That's exactly the opposite of what I said. Work on your reading comprehension, SS. You sure do love to assign positions to others.

#204 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-06 12:08 AM | Reply

#203 "The claim is Awake47 is Crimo. Awake47 posted: "i say we just get rid of the blacks altogether" June 28 2022"
The theory that he was motivated by white supremacy falls apart when you realize that Highland Park is 99% white. Was he even able to find a Black person to shoot at?

#205 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-06 12:14 AM | Reply

#205 I'm not saying he is a white supremacist, but as you know, they don't limit themselves to hatred of blacks. "Jews will not replace us" is also a white supremacist sentiment:

According to a 2020 study of the metropolitan Chicago area by researchers at Brandeis University and the University of Chicago, Highland Park is 50% Jewish: about 15,000 of the suburb's 30,000 residents.

www.jta.org

#206 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-06 12:21 AM | Reply

In Highland Park's Jewish community, few are untouched by deadly mass shooting

www.jta.org

#207 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-06 12:24 AM | Reply

Or maybe I'm confusing white supremacists with neo-Nazis. I do tend to conflate the two.

#208 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-07-06 12:27 AM | Reply

Lets see if I can play this ridiculous partisan game. He was allegedly wearing women's clothes, and dyed his hair half pink and half blue. Goes by Bobbie rather than Bobby. I conclude he...I mean THEY, identifies as non-binary, or possibly trans, and therefore must be a Democrat. See how ridiculous that is?

#209 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-06 12:27 AM | Reply

#209

What's ridiculous is your post... that was a getaway disguise, dumbass.

#210 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-06 12:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In the 60's you were allowed to join the rifle club and bring your gun to school. Switzerland has one of the highest weapon ownership rates in the world. No school shootings.

MIRANDA

In the 60's, Americans had bolt action rifles, if any. Not military-grade assault weapons. When the shooter in the UT clock tower shot several people in the 60's the nation was shocked. Now we have more mass shootings than days in the years, and with much higher carnage. All thanks to the NRA and Republican politicians flooding America with guns.

And gun ownership in Switzerland is tied to their "well regulated militia," of which all are expected to be members of.

#211 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-06 12:41 AM | Reply

The version of America that the gun nuts want,
which is essentially the Wild West, SUCKS DONKEY --------...

Anyone who cannot see this is no way to live,
has serious mental issues...

#212 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-07-06 12:39 PM | Reply

which probably explains why 3/4's of the Republican World
is okay with it...

But then again, I repeat myself...

#213 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-07-06 12:40 PM | Reply

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