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Wednesday, July 13, 2022

An Ohio man has been arrested and charged with raping a 10-year-old girl whose out-of-state abortion drew national headline amid the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

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I posted this on the nooner and am glad someone beat me to creating an actual thread.

This is certainly vindication for the original source of the Indy Star article that capped all of this off.

I'm a little curious as to why the police department that had jurisdiction along with the AG said they didn't have even a "whiff" (AG's choice of word) of anything like this reported to them.

My guess is they were closing in on the subject, who has reportedly admitted to the crime(s) (claims to have raped her twice), and had concerns that if they answered accurately it would tip off the suspect that they were on to him. It would also explain why the original source clammed up when being questioned by media outlets.

#1 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 01:42 PM | Reply

I hope Dr. Caitlin Bernard pursues defamation charges against all of those in the press and news services who profited from besmirching her integrity and reputation by claiming that she lied about this poor girl's story and existence.

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I posted the reasons why in POST #1 of the thread if anyone bothered to read it!

I participated in the investigation of and prosecuted hundreds of child maltreatment cases, the vast majority of them sexual assaults. I was also my county's juvenile court prosecutor for two years. The notion that a ten-year-old child became pregnant and in need of an abortion is very credible. The fact that no prosecution for having impregnated the child has yet been made public means nothing. I personally know of many cases where little girls like this have been raped. Once when I was in juvenile court we had a 13-year-old runaway who was pregnant-- with her second child.

First, the girl in this case may be unwilling or unable to disclose the identity of the person who assaulted her (and as far as I am aware sex with a child as young as ten is a sexual assault, a rape, in every state even if no physical force as most people think of it was involved.) She may be afraid to say who raped her. She may be unsure who raped her. She may not know the identity of the person who raped her. She may be developmentally delayed and non-verbal. (People with developmental disabilities are particularly vulnerable to sexual assault.) Investigators may be awaiting the results of the abortion to obtain a DNA sample form the fetus in order to try to identify the person who raped the girl.

Second, if the person who impregnated the girl is himself a juvenile -- which is not at all unlikely -- in most states the prosecution of such an assault would take place in juvenile court, where proceedings are rarely made known to the public. All the fact-checking in the world would not get anywhere in trying to verify the story if it went to juvenile court.

Third, because we are dealing with a child and a medical procedure where that child is the patient, HIPPA prevents many of the people involved from saying anything that could get into the public domain identifying the patient.

Someone who knows more about child sexual assault should have written this "fact-check."

www.washingtonpost.com

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Duplicate thread. Needs to be merged.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 01:49 PM | Reply

Tony Roma,

Most said that all efforts to independently corroborate her story were unsuccessful. To your broader point - she certainly appears to be vindicated.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 01:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Jeff ---- off. You tried to besmirch the story repeatedly here. Rotten bastard.

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-13 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

#6 Your reading comprehension sucks. I ripped the media for running with the story off a single source without being able to corroborate anything. All attempts to corroborate the story hit a brick wall.

#7 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 02:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Most said that all efforts to independently corroborate her story were unsuccessful.

And anyone who understands what's posted in #3 would understand why! Those who had information could not talk about it, and the laws themselves limited the numbers of people who would have had knowledge, so exactly WHO was supposed to confirm what?

You people dragged a conscientious doctor through the mud - you should see some of the comments on her online listings - because of ignorance and hubris. No one had a right to know anything about what happened to that little girl because the law itself protects victims from being revictimized by non-involved gawkers and neer-do-wells, including partisanly-driven skeptics like you who did exactly that to the doctor's professional reputation.

Despicable.

#8 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Maybe "Jakester" can explain why the---------- victim had to travel to Indianapolis to abort her rapist's baby.

#9 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 02:10 PM | Reply

This was the original thread.

drudge.com

My comments on the news story itself are #28, 30,35,38,41,42,100.

Anyone who reads those comments objectively will find it unsurprising that Laura Mohr, with #6, is a lying SOS.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 02:11 PM | Reply

#9 According to the state AG, that's not something she had to do - it could have been performed in Ohio without being in violation of state law.

Perhaps the AG is lying?

#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 02:12 PM | Reply

And I want to commend RCade for having the decency of keeping that insipid thread off the Front Page. It was garbage from the start because at its root because it was based on the assertion that Dr. Bernard was lying. If the doctor was lying, she would have been in violation of her Hippocratic Oath. Did that register to anyone? How about HIPAA restrictions?

Right wing tools always want to project their own partisan deviancy upon those who don't align themselves as allies. That is the only reason her account was called into question - she is an abortion advocate. So to opponents, she must be a liar too.

It must suck to live in an intellectual cesspool like that.

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 02:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#12 So, it was wrong to attempt to independently corroborate her story?

#13 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 02:13 PM | Reply

According to the state AG, that's not something she had to do - it could have been performed in Ohio without being in violation of state law.

Perhaps, if she were lucky enough to discover her pregnancy and seek the abortion prior to their six-week or heartbeat abortion ban. The article makes clear that "The girl had been denied health care in Ohio, one of the first states to ban the procedure after six weeks, with no exceptions for rape or ------. Three days past the six-week mark, the girl went to Indiana instead."

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#11

Totally irrelevant. The child's guardian could take her wherever necessary to have medical care that was legally questionable in Ohio.

The point is that the Ohio doctor was frightened about violating the Ohio law to the point she instituted care for the girl in another state where no such legal ambiguity existed.

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 02:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Oh. So it's not a hoax...

Well, she's old enough to consent anyway...

Statutory rape isn't real rape.

-Boaz

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2022-07-13 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"My guess is they were closing in on the subject..."

Well yeah, AFTER the fact.

At the time, you were convinced this was a hoax, and denigrating anyone who fell for it.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-13 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It was appalling how many posters sprung forth yelling how we were all duped by what could only be a sensationalistic bald faced lie.

Turns out that indeed a 10 year-old would have to carry a rape baby to full term in this newly draconian dystopia that female Americans have to live under.

It wasn't long ago that reality today would've been a plot of a bad movie.

#18 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-07-13 02:19 PM | Reply

So, it was wrong to attempt to independently corroborate her story?

It was IMPOSSIBLE to corroborate her story due to the circumstances and the laws! Any reporter looking into the actual details should have easily reached that conclusion and that fact was presented in the thread's first post.

IOW, there was no story over the lack of corroboration. The story would have been someone violating the law and providing corroboration.

#19 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 02:19 PM | Reply

"So, it was wrong to attempt to independently corroborate her story?"

Which standard are you using? Actual journalism, or Hunter Biden laptop?

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-13 02:19 PM | Reply

Using the term "MAN" in this instance is rhetorical... right?

#21 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-07-13 02:19 PM | Reply

-You people dragged a conscientious doctor through the mud

Who?

The Ohio Attorney general is who publicly said there was no evidence it happened.

Not because 7 people on a blog read by......7 people repeated what the Ohio Attorney general said.

You can let go of your pearls now.....

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 02:23 PM | Reply

-It was IMPOSSIBLE to corroborate her story due to the circumstances and the laws!

So then why did the Doctor make this assertion in public in the first place?

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 02:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Columbus police were made aware of the girl's pregnancy through a referral by Franklin County Children Services that was made by her mother on June 22, Det. Jeffrey Huhn testified Wednesday morning at Fuentes' arraignment. On June 30, the girl underwent a medical abortion in Indianapolis, Huhn said in court Wednesday, according to the Columbus Dispatch, a Gannett sister paper that has been working on the story with IndyStar.

The timeline given by police coincides with the account Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an Indianapolis physician who provides abortion services, shared with IndyStar for a story that published earlier this month.

www.indystar.com

This is just making me madder and madder the more I read. Those in position to act upon this rape all did what they were supposed to do. What they weren't supposed to do was "corroborate" news stories written about this saga.

It's simple arrogance of the uninvolved to even think that they deserve consideration above that of the involved and the victims themselves.

Again, if the law allows it, I hope lawsuits are filed and big checks written by the arrogant media who turned a valued doctor into a public pariah, thrown to the wolves of partisan vitriol and ostracization.

#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 02:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

" 17 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2022-07-13 02:18 PM | FLAG: "

Liar.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 02:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" So then why did the Doctor make this assertion in public in the first place?"

That's a great question.

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 02:33 PM | Reply

#23

Dammit Ebs, bring your own self up to speed. The story started because Dr. Caitlin Bernard in Indianapolis reported that she was called by an Ohio physician to provide care for a 10 year old rape victim, period. This general disclosure does not violate HIPAA laws.

This is and was news, and it was relayed to a reporter and went global.

#27 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 02:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Perhaps law enforcement released details of the case to the media including information they got from the MD who performed the abortion.

It makes sense the MD wouldn't run to a microphone but rather cooperated with authorities.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 02:35 PM | Reply

-Dammit Ebs, bring your own self up to speed

I have you

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 02:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The chief law enforcement officer of the State of Ohio tells the media he hasn't seen anything about this.

the media reports those words.

Geez.....if Dr. Bernard were to read this blog, she would say "what a bunch of ------- -------....I'm fine."

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 02:40 PM | Reply

So this case now has to be decided within 8 weeks (?) then she could legally have an abortion? lol

#31 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-07-13 02:43 PM | Reply

#27. Dr Bernard is no stranger to media outlets. She is undoubtedly aware of basic journalistic practices and had to know attempts would be made to fact check the story. Had just one person in the know failed to properly do their job the victim's identity might have been revealed. Thankfully it all appears to have worked out. I'm struggling with Dr Bernard's rush to get this story to the media.

#32 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 02:45 PM | Reply


Patients head to Indiana for abortion services as other states restrict care

Shari Rudavsky
Rachel Fradette

Indianapolis Star July 1, 2022

On Monday three days after the Supreme Court issued its groundbreaking decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an Indianapolis obstetrician-gynecologist, took a call from a colleague, a child abuse doctor in Ohio.

Hours after the Supreme Court action, the Buckeye state had outlawed any abortion after six weeks. Now this doctor had a 10-year-old patient in the office who was six weeks and three days pregnant.

Could Bernard help?

www.indystar.com

That is the original story.

#33 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 02:47 PM | Reply

I'm struggling with Dr Bernard's rush to get this story to the media.

Did you see the origin story's title? Does it say anything about the 10 year old girl or her rape?

The reporters were writing a story about the effect of Ohio's and Kentucky's abortion laws as it regarded Indiana providers. The doctor simply related a germane story to personify that effect. After that the details became the story instead of being a part of a different narrative.

The doctor did not run to the media, the media asked the doctor a related question which uncovered the 10 year old's existence. You're making exactly the same ignorant mistakes again. I guess your ilk will never learn.

#34 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Dr. Bernard undoubtedly reported this tragedy to the media to get the story out to assure the powers that be did what they are supposed to do-arrest the rapist.

Cause, you know, that is the point of a free and independent press

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 02:53 PM | Reply

Dammit Ebs, bring your own self up to speed.

He's only here to troll.

Same with Bellyache.

Meanwhile. Where's Boaz to eat this crow?

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-13 02:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is certainly vindication for the original source of the Indy Star article that capped all of this off.

I'm a little curious as to why the police department that had jurisdiction along with the AG said they didn't have even a "whiff" (AG's choice of word) of anything like this reported to them.

#1 | Posted by BellRinger

So what's that say about your fellow cult members and leaders who called it FAKE NEWS?

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-13 02:57 PM | Reply

The secondary point of the initial story and Dr. Bernard's role was to draw attention to the barbaric reality of overturning RvW, actions that people like Jeffj support wholeheartedly

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The Ohio Attorney general is who publicly said there was no evidence it happened.

A Republicans lied?

Shocked! I'm shocked I tells ya!! /s

Face it. Republicans are full of shht.

All of you.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-13 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Why do you republicans elect people who would prevent this girl from getting an abortion?

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-13 02:58 PM | Reply

So what's that say about your fellow cult members and leaders who called it FAKE NEWS?

#37 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Jeff will certainly not do any self-reflection and change his ways.

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 02:58 PM | Reply

So what's that say about your fellow cult members and leaders who called it FAKE NEWS?
#37 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Bellyache was right here, crying about the "liberal" media and its fake news.

The guy is a moron.

Same with Jakesoff, aka Goatman.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-13 02:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Ol' Bozo said it was a hoax.

#43 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-07-13 03:00 PM | Reply

Why do you republicans elect people who would prevent this girl from getting an abortion?

#40 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Because a not insignificant number of the them:

1. Wish they could impregnate 10 year olds
2. Sincerely believe the 10 year old deserved it
3. Sincerely believe that it is the role of a female of any age to bear children.
4. Simply hate women

#44 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 03:01 PM | Reply

The Ohio Attorney general is who publicly said there was no evidence it happened.

What a scumbucket.

Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost also questioned the validity of the account during an appearance on Fox News this week.

Yost, a Republican, told Fox News host Jesse Watters that his office had not heard "a whisper" of a report being filed for the 10-year-old victim.

"We have regular contact with prosecutors and local police and sheriffs - not a whisper anywhere," Yost said on the show.

Yost doubled down on that in an interview with the USA TODAY Network Ohio bureau on Tuesday, saying that the more time passed before confirmation made it "more likely that this is a fabrication."

"I know the cops and prosecutors in this state," Yost said. "There's not one of them that wouldn't be turning over every rock, looking for this guy and they would have charged him. They wouldn't leave him loose on the streets ... I'm not saying it could not have happened. What I'm saying to you is there is not a damn scintilla of evidence."

On Wednesday, once news of the arraignment came, Yost issued a single sentence statement:

"We rejoice anytime a------------ is taken off the streets."

An IndyStar analysis of Columbus police reports filed since May 9 found 50 reports of rape or sexual abuse involving a person 15 years or younger. That number of reports may also be underreported because of restrictions on public records related to allegations initiated by mandated reporters. The report involving the 10-year-old girl falls into that category.

In 2020 there were 52 abortions in children 15 or younger in Ohio, accounting for .3% of the 20,605 abortions performed that year, according to the Ohio Department of Health. Data from the health department shows there were 63 such procedures in 2019, 54 in 2018, 61 in 2017 and 76 in 2016.

www.indystar.com

I simply despise people like Yost. Thank gawd he's in Ohio and not Indiana.

#45 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 03:01 PM | Reply

Why do you republicans elect people who would prevent this girl from getting an abortion?

Generally because their own lives suck. So they gotta make sure everyone else's does as well.

Conservatives are hatful human beings. It's what's draws them to each other. Their shared hate for anyone not 100% exactly like them.

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-13 03:02 PM | Reply

Who wants to bet that a number of states in the Ol' Confederacy will pass laws reducing the age of consent to 9 now?

Biblical marriage, and all.

#47 | Posted by anton at 2022-07-13 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"God wanted this 10 year old to get raped and impregnated. What a gift he's bestowed upon her!"

-Conservatives

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-13 03:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It was appalling how many posters sprung forth yelling how we were all duped by what could only be a sensationalistic bald faced lie.

They refuse to face the horrifying consequences of their political choices, so they resort to deflecting and victim blaming.

#49 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 03:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'm struggling with Dr Bernard's rush to get this story to the media.
#32 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Yes. That's definitely the story here.

Republicans are such sick -----, it's unbelievable.

#50 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Republicans are proto-Nazis.
They change law to harm women and girls.
When the inevitable happens, they lie and deny the truth and attack the truth tellers.

Have fun in hell.

#51 | Posted by bored at 2022-07-13 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

God wanted this 10 year old goat to be raped ...

-Clownshack

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 03:09 PM | Reply

#50. Did I say that was the story here?

Progressives simply don't know how to read.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 03:10 PM | Reply

"An Ohio man has been arrested and charged with raping a 10-year-old girl whose out-of-state abortion drew national headline amid the overturning of Roe v. Wade."

Wow, this sure is an elaborate hoax!

Crisis Actors, all of them.

Even the fetus.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 03:18 PM | Reply

You sure are focused on it. Anything to deflect from the horrific fact that your preferred national abortion policy results in 10 year old rape victims having to resort to a modern-day underground railroad to abort their rapist's baby.

Any normal person wouldn't give two ----- how we found out about this story. That subset excludes you.

#55 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 03:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

2nd Rule of Trump Club: If the Narrative isn't for you, than you are against the source.

#56 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-13 03:25 PM | Reply

" You sure are focused on it"

I made one comment on it.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 03:25 PM | Reply

#55. My preferred national abortion policy would be a national abortion law legalizing for the 1st trimester.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 03:27 PM | Reply

No wonder there was some difficulty in verifying this story. It was undocumented.

Gershon Fuentes, who was arrested Tuesday, July 12, after police officers said he confessed to raping the 10-year-old. Fuentes, who Assistant Franklin County Prosecutor Dan Meyer said is believed to be undocumented, is currently being held in Franklin County jail on a $2 million bond.

#59 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 03:28 PM | Reply

They refuse to face the horrifying consequences of their political choices, so they resort to deflecting and victim blaming.

Yep. That and the fact that they no longer value truth and facts, that those two things are so foreign to them, that they don't believe anyone actually tells the truth. They don't tell the truth, so no one else does, either, right? Their hero sure as hell doesn't bother with any truth or fact. Plus they are used to being lied to and they don't just expect it, they need to be lied to.

When they meet someone that tells the truth, uses facts, they discard it because, as Boaz has said, what he believes is just as valid as any damned fact.

Remember when "Truthiness" was so damn funny? Yeah.

#60 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-13 03:29 PM | Reply

#55. My preferred national abortion policy would be a national abortion law legalizing for the 1st trimester.

My preferred national abortion policy is it is 100% up to the woman and her doctor(s).

#61 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-13 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I'm pretty sure giving birth at that age would kill the child.

And this is the sort of situation that should force everyone to admit they are pro-choice.

#62 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-13 03:30 PM | Reply

"Using the term "MAN" in this instance is rhetorical... right?"

You're right. The headline should have said "man without uterus", to avoid any confusion.

#63 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 03:31 PM | Reply

My preferred national abortion policy would be a national abortion law legalizing for the 1st trimester.

We effectively had that. You cheered its demise, and deflect from that demise's consequences.

#64 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 03:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

My preferred national abortion policy is it is 100% up to the woman and her doctor(s).

POSTED BY YAV AT 2022-07-13 03:30 PM | REPLY

THIS. Anything else you are treating the Cis women as livestock.

#65 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-13 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My preferred national abortion policy would be a national abortion law legalizing for the 1st trimester.
#58 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

That was the national abortion policy under Roe.
Yet you are over the moon that Roe was repealed.

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What was the dude actually charged with? The impregnation, or the act which led to it?

#67 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 03:38 PM | Reply

" We effectively had that. You cheered its demise, and deflect from that demise's consequences.

#64 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2022-07-13 03:32 PM | FLAG: "

Like I said I don't view the court as an institution designed to deliver my preferred political outcomes.

#68 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 03:39 PM | Reply

What was the dude actually charged with?

Reading the articles provides a lot of information like that.

#69 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-07-13 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'm pretty sure giving birth at that age would kill the child."

As horrible as it is, look up Lina Medina.

#70 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 03:41 PM | Reply

I'm a little curious as to why the police department that had jurisdiction along with the AG said they didn't have even a "whiff" (AG's choice of word) of anything like this reported to them.
My guess is they were closing in on the subject, who has reportedly admitted to the crime(s) (claims to have raped her twice), and had concerns that if they answered accurately it would tip off the suspect that they were on to him. It would also explain why the original source clammed up when being questioned by media outlets.
#1 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Your guess is laughable. Like you think Law and Order: Special Victims Unit is reflective of the real world.

Ohio's juvenile prison system has nation's highest rate of sexual victimization, survey finds. www.cleveland.com

Ohio's DA doesn't much care about juvenile sexual assault. Why? Because Ohio cops are almost certainly among the ones victimizing Ohio's juveniles in prisons.

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 03:43 PM | Reply

Like I said I don't view the court as an institution designed to deliver my preferred political outcomes.
#68 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

^
Still doesn't explain why you cheered when they took your preferred outcome away.
Why did you cheer, when you got the opposite of what you wanted?

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Reading the articles provides a lot of information like that."

We can't always trust the headlines to convey accurate information?

#73 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 03:46 PM | Reply

Republicans think it's terrible that this 10-year-old would reject her rapist's "gift from God."

#74 | Posted by anton at 2022-07-13 03:47 PM | Reply

-It was IMPOSSIBLE to corroborate her story due to the circumstances and the laws!
So then why did the Doctor make this assertion in public in the first place?
#23 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Apparently it was so you and BellRinger could make asses of yourself.

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't forget about Boaz, Lfthndturds, Jakesoff, the Ohio AG, the entire Republican Party, the Supreme Court ...

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-13 03:52 PM | Reply

#74 Until they find out the father was an illegal.

Note to illegals, only rape girls in red states.

#77 | Posted by bored at 2022-07-13 03:55 PM | Reply

#77 That it's being reported that this guy is here illegally takes a back seat in this story

#78 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 03:57 PM | Reply

Republicans think it's terrible that this 10-year-old would reject her rapist's "gift from God."
#74 | POSTED BY ANTON

Great point.
I'd like any Reupblican to explain why it's okay for the innocent fetus to be ripped limb from limb in the womb.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 03:57 PM | Reply

#77 That it's being reported that this guy is here illegally takes a back seat in this story

"Oh thank GOD there's a silver lining to this story!" ...

#80 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-13 04:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Come on. That's not at all what I said.

#81 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 04:03 PM | Reply

Fuentes had lived in Columbus the last seven years and had a steady job at a cafe.
Undocumented you say? I think his employer should be arraigned for aiding and abetting this rape.

Guy couldn't be here if someone didn't pay him to work and live for 7 years.

#82 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Reading the articles provides a lot of information like that.
#69 | POSTED BY REDIAL

But it prevents one from being a dumb troll.

So.

#83 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-13 04:09 PM | Reply

#82 Whether he's here legally or illegally doesn't make the ordeal any better or worse for the victim and her family.

#84 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 04:15 PM | Reply

#82 Whether he's here legally or illegally doesn't make the ordeal any better or worse for the victim and her family.
#84 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

It's not supposed to make it better for the victim or her family.
It's supposed to make it better for Republicans.
Now Republicans have something to distract them from the story being true.
Now republicans have something to distract them from Ohio's DA being either uniformed, incompetent, or a liar, depending on how thin you slice the bologna.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 04:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Go ytpepo go!

#86 | Posted by fresno500 at 2022-07-13 04:22 PM | Reply

#55. My preferred national abortion policy would be a national abortion law legalizing for the 1st trimester.

#58 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

LOL!

We had that and you proudly support overturning that law.

You are beyond stupid!

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Like I said I don't view the court as an institution designed to deliver my preferred political outcomes.
#68 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Like it is possible to get a nationwide abortion law given our congress.

Beyond stupid? Is there a point beyond beyond stupid? Cause lying jeffj has that place in his rear view mirror

#88 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 04:28 PM | Reply

#77 That it's being reported that this guy is here illegally takes a back seat in this story

#78 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

except to racists {{COUGH}} {{COUGH}} Sentinel {{COUGH}}

#89 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 04:30 PM | Reply

#88 You are basing that off the analysis of a biased assistant professor at University of Michigan and she was far from certain that a federal abortion law isn't possible. And if it isn't, then a federal abortion ban isn't possible either.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 04:31 PM | Reply

"a federal abortion law isn't possible. And if it isn't, then a federal abortion ban isn't possible either."

Do we get to see the Republican Math on this one?

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 04:31 PM | Reply

#87 It wasn't a law - it was a supreme court ruling. The two are not the same thing. That you seem to think they are is understandable as Roe was legislating from the bench.

#92 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 04:32 PM | Reply

#88 You are basing that off the analysis of a biased assistant professor at University of Michigan and she was far from certain that a federal abortion law isn't possible. And if it isn't, then a federal abortion ban isn't possible either.

#90 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

First that professor knows a ------- more about the law than you do, being she is a practicing attorney, a law professor and was a law clerk for a Supreme Court Justice. But you keep being you and act like she doesn't know what she is talking about.

Second, you do understand that the power to allow something is different from the power to prohibit something, right?

Thirdly, you have yet to answer the question-what authority does congress have to pass a law protecting abortion that this sc is bound to recognize?

#93 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 04:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#88 You are basing that off the analysis of a biased assistant professor at University of Michigan"

And what is JeffJ basing his analysis off of?

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 04:43 PM | Reply

#87 It wasn't a law - it was a supreme court ruling. The two are not the same thing. That you seem to think they are is understandable as Roe was legislating from the bench.

#92 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Don't cut yourself splitting that hair. bottom line is abortion during the 1st trimester was permitted in all 50 states, now it is not. And you support that.

And people like this 10 year old child suffer for it.

IOW Republicans are scum-count yourself among that number

#95 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 04:43 PM | Reply

#87 It wasn't a law - it was a supreme court ruling. The two are not the same thing. That you seem to think they are is understandable as Roe was legislating from the bench.
#92 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

^
What you're saying is, it's good policy to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

#96 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 04:44 PM | Reply

Like I said I don't view the court as an institution designed to deliver my preferred political outcomes.

#68 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2022-07-13 03:39 PM | REPLY

You may not "view" it that way but that's exactly what it is now.

#97 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 04:44 PM | Reply

And what is JeffJ basing his analysis off of?

#94 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Out of his ass after first removing Eberly's head and a cup full of undigested corn.

#98 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 04:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#55. My preferred national abortion policy would be a national abortion law legalizing for the 1st trimester.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger

But you'll keep voting for the theocratic cult that wont stop until its banned nationwide.

#99 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-13 04:46 PM | Reply

What you're saying is, it's good policy to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

#96 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT

More like "It's good policy to force 10-year-old rape victims to carry a rape fetus to term"

#100 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 04:47 PM | Reply

"#87 It wasn't a law - it was a supreme court ruling. The two are not the same thing. That you seem to think they are is understandable as Roe was legislating from the bench."

The ruling was that a specific body of law, called the Constitution, prevented the states from criminalizing abortion in the first trimester.

In other words, Roe said we already had the law you want.

But you applaud that interpretation of the Constitution being ----------. Why, exactly?

#101 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 04:49 PM | Reply

Why, exactly?

#101 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

OOOH OOOH I KNOW!

Because he is a turd of a human being!!

#102 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 04:52 PM | Reply

JeffJ is the type of guy who supports executing an inmate on Death Row, even if they're innocent.

Because following the process is more important than actually delivering justice by not executing an innocent man.

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 04:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"But you'll keep voting for the theocratic cult that wont stop until its banned nationwide.

#99 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-07-13 04:46 PM"

Nope. At the state level, anyone running in my district on a platform of banning abortion will not get my vote, regardless of where this candidate falls on other issues.

Ditto for the federal level.

#104 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 04:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Bottom line:

1) A ten year old was raped and became pregnant.

2) Republicans denied her an abortion

3) Republicans then lied about her existence.

#105 | Posted by Zed at 2022-07-13 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Bellringer has the morality of Oskar Groning.

#106 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

JeffJ is the type of guy who supports executing an inmate on Death Row, even if they're innocent.
Because following the process is more important than actually delivering justice by not executing an innocent man.

#103 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2022-07-13 04:55 PM | REPLY | FLAG

Yup. He's got the mentality of bookkeeper at Auschwitz. Outcomes are bad, its the process that matters.

#107 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 04:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#93 My point was and is she's one person holding that view. And thus far, she's the only one I'm aware of who's expressed that view. She absolutely is more knowledgeable than me on the subject and I wasn't suggesting otherwise. That she's a lone voice suggests either she's a bit out of the mainstream or other legal experts simply have yet to weigh in either way. Also, she was quite unsure which is why the word "might" was sprinkled through her analysis and for good reason.

#108 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 04:59 PM | Reply

JeffJ is the type of guy who supports executing an inmate on Death Row, even if they're innocent.
Because following the process is more important than actually delivering justice by not executing an innocent man.

#103 | POSTED BY SNOOFY A

Jeffj would pull the lever if he wasn't such a coward

#109 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 04:59 PM | Reply

Nope. At the state level, anyone running in my district on a platform of banning abortion will not get my vote, regardless of where this candidate falls on other issues.
Ditto for the federal level.

#104 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Why would anyone believe what a known liar like you claims?

#110 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:00 PM | Reply

#107 BOTH matter. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp. When we follow the process we are governed by laws. When we eschew the process in an ends justify the means manner then were are governed by men.

#111 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 05:00 PM | Reply

It's really not a difficult concept to grasp.

You've never shown the capacity to care beyond the process, "originalist"

#112 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 05:02 PM | Reply

#110 Your default M.O. is personal attacks. I don't give a rat's ass what you believe. I said what I said and I meant it.

#113 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 05:02 PM | Reply

"anyone running in my district"
"Ditto for the federal level."

Such a snake in the grass!
Nothing about state level...
Meaning JeffJ will vote for one of Michigan's Republican Governor candidate.
All of whom have pledged to outlaw abortion if elected.
FACT!

#114 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:03 PM | Reply

#93 My point was and is she's one person holding that view. And thus far, she's the only one I'm aware of who's expressed that view. She absolutely is more knowledgeable than me on the subject and I wasn't suggesting otherwise. That she's a lone voice suggests either she's a bit out of the mainstream or other legal experts simply have yet to weigh in either way. Also, she was quite unsure which is why the word "might" was sprinkled through her analysis and for good reason.

#108 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

That is a long winded way to admit you are ignorant.

She is a lawyer conducting an interview on possible future court and legislative actions OF COURSE she is going to use the word "might".

#115 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:03 PM | Reply

So who will go missing. Boaz, Humtake, Visitor?????

#116 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-07-13 05:03 PM | Reply

#107 BOTH matter.
#111 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Not to you they don't!

#117 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:05 PM | Reply

#112 FFS - it is an absolute requirement to being a member of the cult of progressivism to be completely ignorant of our civic processes? Is it part of the entrance exam?

#118 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 05:05 PM | Reply

Hey jeff-

If the outcome is that innocent people get ------ over all the time...our civic process isn't working.

#119 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 05:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#115 You've taken it as an article of faith that you are 100% certain if a federal abortion law were to pass it would absolutely be struck down by an originalist court that by design gives deference to the legislative branch of government.

#120 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 05:07 PM | Reply

The real story here is that Eberly was wrong and he's sorry.

Forget the ten year old victim.

#121 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"our civic process isn't working.

#119 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2022-07-13 05:06 PM |"

So the process should be ---------- because you aren't getting all of the outcomes you want?

That's not how this works. It's not how any of this works.

#122 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 05:08 PM | Reply

"When we follow the process we are governed by laws."

Roe v Wade followed the process.

"When we eschew the process in an ends justify the means manner then were are governed by men."

^
This is just right-wing claptrap. We are always governed by men. Men write the laws, men interpret the laws, men enforce the laws.

#123 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#107 BOTH matter. It's really not a difficult concept to grasp. When we follow the process we are governed by laws. When we eschew the process in an ends justify the means manner then were are governed by men.

#111 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

We had laws and a process that the vast majority of americans supported. That was overthrown by a religious minority of activist judges who use the patently absurd notion of originalism to justify an ends that they wanted.

#124 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:10 PM | Reply

So the process should be ----------

Fine tuned. I never said we should scrap anything.

Nice actual strawman, jeff. Take notes.

#125 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 05:10 PM | Reply

#110 Your default M.O. is personal attacks. I don't give a rat's ass what you believe. I said what I said and I meant it.

#113 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Your default M.O. is to lie.

What other names have you posted under on the DR?

Until you answer that question honestly, everything you post has at least 1 lie in it.

truth hurts donut?

#126 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:11 PM | Reply

So the process should be ---------- because you aren't getting all of the outcomes you want?
That's not how this works. It's not how any of this works.
#122 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

How did Dobbs get to the Supreme Court?
A Republican wasn't getting the outcome they wanted because of Roe.
They convinced the Republicans on the Supreme Court to ------- the process by which they ajudicated Roe.

That's exactly how this works.

#127 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#112 FFS - it is an absolute requirement to being a member of the cult of progressivism to be completely ignorant of our civic processes? Is it part of the entrance exam?

#118 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Were you absent when your civics instructor taught unenumerated rights?

#128 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:12 PM | Reply

JeffJ/BallDinger is getting gang bukkakied. I hope she doesn't get pregnant.

#129 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-07-13 05:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#115 You've taken it as an article of faith that you are 100% certain if a federal abortion law were to pass it would absolutely be struck down by an originalist court that by design gives deference to the legislative branch of government.

#120 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Can you answer the question on what power congress can rely to pass a law that the SC would be bound to respect?

Until you can answer that question I will take what the SC has said as gospel

#130 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:13 PM | Reply

Everything the right does is right. Whether they follow the process or mitch mcconnel it.
Everything the left does is wrong. Period.

There, I've broken down jeffs ideology to it's smallest denominator.

#131 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 05:13 PM | Reply

If I'm up on second degree murder charges and Jeff is my lawyer I'd start planning what my last meal was going to be.

#132 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-13 05:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Title should read illegal alien charged.....

#133 | Posted by MSgt at 2022-07-13 05:15 PM | Reply

So the process should be ---------- because you aren't getting all of the outcomes you want?
That's not how this works. It's not how any of this works.

#122 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

the process was working. injustice occurred; the court found that a unenumerated right to privacy entitled women to a right regarding their reproductive freedom.

The activist justices on today's court ignored stare decisis and used a patently absurd concept like originalism (and ignoring many many historic examples of abortion being legal) to justify an end they wanted.

#134 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:16 PM | Reply

MSGT- Damn aliens making our roe v wade decision look stupid!

They took er jobs!

#135 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 05:16 PM | Reply

It wasn't a law - it was a supreme court ruling.

Supreme Court rulings ARE carry the full force of law when they're founded on the jurist's interpretation of unenumerated constitutional rights.

You're such an ignorant tool. Roe was never a law in the sense of something passed by Congress, Roe was the continuation of the Court's interpretation that the 14th Amendment contained the constitutional right for personal liberties - first established by Griswold, specifically for contraception rights; then Roe, for abortion rights; next Lawrence, for consensual sexual rights; and lastly Obergefell, for same sex marriage rights.

Many constitutional scholars also cite the 9th Amendment as being congruent and constitutionally supportive of unenumerated privacy rights along with the history of prior Court's challenges to and upholding of these same court decisions up until the Dobbs ruling.

The nonsensical opinion written by Alito, misstates United States history as it regards abortion rights and laws, and bases its decision to claim that prior Court's finding of privacy rights was inconsistent with the cherry-picked recitation of 19th Century societal norms cited, completely ignoring that when the Constitution was written there were no laws anywhere outlawing abortion because there was no state medical apparatus to even try to regulate individual women for their personal reproductive decisions.

Basically, this Court has delivered a wholly political decision that is not supported by the Constitution or this nation's own history as it regards a woman's bodily autonomy. And the kicker is that only because of modern medical technology and record keeping can any government conceivably attempt to enforce restrictions upon a woman's choice. Doing so in the 19th Century was physically impossible.

It's antithetical that a document that codifies numerous rights retained by citizens that restrains the reach of government - and openly states that there are OTHER such rights, not mentioned specifically within the texts, but yet are retained by the People - that the right of personal body autonomy wouldn't be one of those rights, especially when the 4th Amendment clearly states other rights of personal privacy from government and investigations by the state not grounded with probable cause.

So those of us opposing the Dobbs ruling have much more constitutional ground to stand on - based on the Bill of Rights and this nation's continued expansion of personal rights throughout time - than those who have to cite virtual distortions of ancient history in full ignorance that for 50 years citizens have held these rights and have built our society and current strictures around them. This is precisely why stare decisis used to be the firewall built to stop inventive reinterpretations from recalcitrant Court members that move liberty backwards, instead of forwards.

#136 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 05:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

JeffJ truly believes it's better to execute an innocent man that was wrongly found guilty, than to let him live.

And that is why JeffJ is a sociopath.

#137 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:17 PM | Reply

Title should read illegal alien charged.....

#133 | POSTED BY MSGT

we see where your priorities lie, nice

#138 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:18 PM | Reply

tony- they should have gone with 4th amendment bodily autonomy instead of the 14th. IMHO.

#139 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 05:18 PM | Reply

They took er jobs!

#135 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Our job of raping 10 year olds? I'm confused

#140 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:19 PM | Reply

It's a southpark reference.

#141 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 05:19 PM | Reply

Title should read illegal alien charged.....
#133 | POSTED BY MSGT

See #85: It's supposed to make it better for Republicans.

#142 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:20 PM | Reply

Is that really Jeff?

I only see what ya'll cut and paste, but he appears to have devolved into Ima Goldpissant.

#143 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-13 05:21 PM | Reply

#143

Maybe the bukkaki recipient is a poster of many faces.

#144 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-07-13 05:25 PM | Reply

Ira isn't as mealy-mouthed. Like when he vowed to not vote for anti-abortion candidates in his District or at the Federal level, while knowing full well that doesn't cover his vote for Michigan Governor, where all the Republicans are anti-abortion.

Ira doesn't try to hide behind obfuscation and dissembling like that.

JeffJ does that whenever there's an opportunity to make it sound like he's saying something declarative, but he's really leaving himself an out, and he hopes you don't notice it.

#145 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:27 PM | Reply

Where's BOAZ?

(walk walk walk ... looks. Nope. walk walk walk walk ... opens closet doors. Nope. walk walk walk ... looks. Nope) Hm.

#146 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-13 05:33 PM | Reply

#139

I don't disagree, but the 1960 Court started with the 14th. I agree that the 9th and 4th also support personal privacy rights as well, and as I posted earlier in another thread, the 5th constrains government from coercing woman to report their own personal biological status without probable cause.

Which leads me back to, just how are states going to enforce anti-abortion laws - pre-abortion - if a woman doesn't disclose her pregnancy status to anyone before she physically shows?

And then how can any woman be compelled to testify against her own interests based on her 5th Amendment protections post abortion?

#147 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 05:34 PM | Reply

Nope. At the state level, anyone running in my district on a platform of banning abortion will not get my vote, regardless of where this candidate falls on other issues.

Ditto for the federal level.

#104 | Posted by BellRinger

Sure guy. In reality they'll say "my opponent is going to take your guns!" and you'll say "I had to vote for the republican because they dem would take my guns"

#148 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-13 05:37 PM | Reply

"Which leads me back to, just how are states going to enforce anti-abortion laws - pre-abortion - if a woman doesn't disclose her pregnancy status to anyone before she physically shows?"

The medical industry is regulated enough that the CPT code for abortion will be discoverable by law enforcement.

#149 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:42 PM | Reply

Also, you won't get doctors to break the law and risk their job, not to mention ten years or life or whatever.

#150 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:43 PM | Reply

One party is passing laws that are forcing 10-year-olds to give birth, one party isn't.

This shouldn't be a difficult choice.

Bryan Tyler Cohen

#151 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 05:45 PM | Reply

So it turns out the Ohio anti-abortion law is a good thing in this case. If it was last year, the girl would have just had her abortion, the doctor would have reported it to the DA, and the DA would have done nothing.
The draconian GQP stance on abortion helped to make this a national story and therefore brought this a****** to justice.

#152 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2022-07-13 05:47 PM | Reply

"The draconian GQP stance on abortion helped to make this a national story and therefore brought this a****** to justice."

That's a stretch.

Signed,
10 year old girl's wherever.

#153 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 05:53 PM | Reply

The medical industry is regulated enough that the CPT code for abortion will be discoverable by law enforcement.

What's the probable cause that would allow them access to HIPAA-protected information?

And HIPAA laws also makes it illegal to disclose personal information to outside parties without the patient's approval.

This is why I'm making the distinction between pre-abortion and post-abortion. There is no way possible for the state to know if/when individual women become pregnant unless these women disclose the information themselves.

#154 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 05:53 PM | Reply

If it was last year, the girl would have just had her abortion, the doctor would have reported it to the DA, and the DA would have done nothing.

Not necessarily true. Read post #24. The police were involved prior to the abortion.

#155 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 05:55 PM | Reply

www.msn.com

Fox News previously reported on Tuesday that an arrest warrant was expected in the case, and a HIPAA violation had been filed against the doctor who leaked the story.

god bless America!

#156 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 05:57 PM | Reply

My goodness...the tears from stupidshackhurtsy taste so good........

#157 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 05:58 PM | Reply

" 148 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-07-13 05:37 PM | REPLY"

I don't know why it's so inconceivable to you that I might have at least some overlap on an issue with you.

If in my district candidate A runs on a plank of an abortion ban or illegal after 6 weeks that candidate will not get my vote.

If candidate B runs on a plank of zero restrictions up to the point of crowning then that candidate won't get my vote either.

At that point I'm looking at candidate C.

#158 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 05:58 PM | Reply

My goodness...the tears from stupidshackhurtsy taste so good........
#157 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2022-07-13 05:58 PM | REPLY

I'm surprised you can taste anything after hours of huffing jeffs farts.

#159 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 05:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I took one look at that article suggesting the claim might be a hoax and dismissed that notion for two reasons.
One, it was posted by Boaz and he's an ignorant, insurrection supporting liar who is well known for posting easily dismissible claims.
Two, because the claim was easily dismissible. I already explained this in the original post but I'll explain it again. Everything reported in the original article appeared to be right out of the report that Indiana healthcare providers are required to submit to the state for all abortions they perform/prescribe. That public record includes details such as patient age, race, hometown, if the patient was seeking the abortion as a result of sexual abuse, etc. No healthcare provider would lie about such a thing because they would have no official record and would be giving law enforcement ground to investigate. On top of that, Indiana requires that any person with knowledge of child neglect or abuse must report it to law enforcement. If they were lying they would also be opening themselves up to investigation as to why they failed to file a report on the abuse.

#160 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-07-13 06:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

forgot about you alex. sorry.

pretty sad you can't make the cut into that pathetic group of career losers.

#161 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 06:00 PM | Reply

My goodness...the tears from stupidshackhurtsy taste so good........
#157 | POSTED BY EBERLY

What you are tasting is the corn infested turd from jeff's lower intestine

#162 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:01 PM | Reply

I don't know why it's so inconceivable to you that I might have at least some overlap on an issue with you.
If in my district candidate A runs on a plank of an abortion ban or illegal after 6 weeks that candidate will not get my vote.
If candidate B runs on a plank of zero restrictions up to the point of crowning then that candidate won't get my vote either.
At that point I'm looking at candidate C.

#158 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Not that anyone would believe you, because, you know, you are a known liar, but will you vote for a republican for governor?

#163 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:02 PM | Reply

You can't arrest them all and will only catch most after the worst happens. The fast response of the state (after denying the existence) is meaningless.

#164 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-07-13 06:02 PM | Reply

Eberly means always having to say you're sorry.

#165 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 06:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

162

I'll take your word for it, twoothy. You spend more time inside that cavity than Laura and that's saying something.

#166 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 06:02 PM | Reply

If in my district candidate A runs on a plank of an abortion ban or illegal after 6 weeks that candidate will not get my vote.
If candidate B runs on a plank of zero restrictions up to the point of crowning then that candidate won't get my vote either.
At that point I'm looking at candidate C.
#158 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

So you won't be voting for literally any Republican for Michigan governor.
Why do I get the feeling you won't answer that...

#167 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 06:02 PM | Reply

#145

Cool. So Devo it is.

www.youtube.com

Quite the sham though, er, I meam shame.

#168 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-13 06:04 PM | Reply

-The real story here is that Eberly was wrong and he's sorry.

About what?

#169 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 06:04 PM | Reply

Why do I get the feeling you won't answer that...

#167 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

OOOHHH!! OOOHH!! I know! I know!

because Jeffj is a cowardly lying pos!!!

#170 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:05 PM | Reply

-At that point I'm looking at candidate C.

---- YOU......JEFF

HaHaHaha...that's funny.

#171 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 06:09 PM | Reply

" Not that anyone would believe you, because, you know, you are a known liar, but will you vote for a republican for governor?

#163 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2022-07-13 06:02 PM | FLAG: "

Depends on who is running and what the platform is. And I will use the exact same criteria I listed above on this issue.

#172 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 06:10 PM | Reply

Is Alex scrambling to find something?

#173 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 06:11 PM | Reply

Is eberly applying varnish to his internet reputation again?

#174 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 06:13 PM | Reply

"That's a stretch.
Signed,
10 year old girl's wherever.

www.youtube.com

#175 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 06:14 PM | Reply

It also may end up as its own ballot provision.

#176 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 06:17 PM | Reply

Michigan Republican Governor hopefuls:
Tudor Dixon=Dixon's anti-choice extremism knows no bounds. A staunch supporter of the currently dormant 1931 near-total ban that criminalizes abortion, she has plainly stated that she would was against all exceptions to abortion, even when the life of the mother was at risk.

Ryan Kelley-Abortion is not healthcare, it is murder. Senseless murdering of our children must stop, we must reverse Roe v Wade.

Ralph Rebandt-As the 50th Governor of Michigan, Ralph Rebandt will stand firmly for life. As it stands, Michigan has some of the strictest anti-abortion laws in the country. Should Roe v. Wade be overturned, and state law be implemented, he has stated that he will support the existing anti-abortion legislation and any legislation that shores up the pre-existing laws. He will support legislation that ends abortion, that de-funds abortion, and legislation that promotes life.

Kevin Rinke-Pledges To Enforce Michigan's Extreme Abortion Ban If Roe Is Struck Down

Garrett Soldano-the Republican anti-choice extremist wants to go even further than an extreme abortion ban without exceptions and would move to outlaw emergency contraception like Plan B if elected governor.

So, jeff which one gets your support. These are your republican options

#177 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:17 PM | Reply

"except to racists {{COUGH}} {{COUGH}} Sentinel {{COUGH}}
#89 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

You are quite the multitasker, PravdaPain, both projecting and spreading disease with your unmasked face at the same time. Do tell, what "races" are you fantasizing about here?

#178 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 06:17 PM | Reply

T: "but will you vote for a republican for governor?"
J : "Depends on who is running and what the platform is."

All Republican Governor candidates in Michigan support a ban on abortion in the first trimester.
Will you vote for a Republican for Governor of Michigan?

#179 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 06:17 PM | Reply

garrettformichigan.com
I believe that it is our duty to protect the God-given right of all of our children. It is our duty to fight for those who can not fight for themselves.

As Governor of Michigan, I will do everything in my power to protect life and push back against the abortion lobby in Lansing and President Biden's radical anti-life agenda.

Abortion providers shouldn't receive our hard-earned tax dollars.

Pregnancy centers and organizations that help mothers choose life need our support.

www.bridgemi.com
In debates, Rebandt has said he supports a no-exception ban on abortion

#180 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:22 PM | Reply

To summarize, I can't speak for everybody here but I can't imagine anybody here disagrees with prosecuting this heinous crime, this 10-year-old girl was denied a necessary abortion because of an irresponsible law in effect in the state of Ohio, inappropriate comments of an Ohio Attorney General marginalizing a doctor in Indiana performed a medically necessary procedure.

Which pretty much puts us all 100% in agreement

And yet a bunch of you are still bleeding out of your pathetic ----

Is it for any reason other than the fact that you're a complete -----?

#181 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 06:23 PM | Reply

Is eberly applying varnish to his internet reputation again?
#174 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

He's applying the vapors, to the mucus membranes in his nose.
Does that count?

#182 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 06:24 PM | Reply

ryandkelley.com
Science and data prove that a new life, a new body, and a new strain of DNA begins at conception.

Michigan law must uphold this basic biological principle.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is endowed to each individual, including unborn human lives.

www.tudordixon.com
Tudor Dixon is Pro-Life and endorsed by Michigan's Largest Pro-Life Organization.

Come on jeff, which one of these reasonable middle of the road republicans gets your vote?

#183 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:24 PM | Reply

"And people like this 10 year old child suffer for it."

Yer an idiot for suggesting the kid suffered from "having to" travel one state over. Especially after what she's already been through.

#184 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 06:25 PM | Reply

"this 10-year-old girl was denied a necessary abortion because of an irresponsible law in effect in the state of Ohio"

The Ohio AG swore there was an exception in cases like this.
Did he lie? Or was the DA simply mistaken about the very law he championed?
I'll accept you shutting up as an answer.

#185 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 06:25 PM | Reply

I guess your ilk will never learn.

Well, they do make a point of not learning.

It's almost as if it's painful for them or something.

#186 | Posted by jpw at 2022-07-13 06:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And yet a bunch of you are still bleeding out of your pathetic ----
Is it for any reason other than the fact that you're a complete -----?

#181 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2022-07-13 06:23 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Dr. Jekyll is on another bender I see.

#187 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 06:26 PM | Reply

Ohio Republicans' attempted erasure of a 10-year-old rape victim is incredibly sick and disturbed

David Dewitt

A Columbus man was indicted Wednesday in a case that made national and international headlines about 10-year-old girl who had to travel to Indiana for an abortion after Ohio's abortion ban went into effect following the U.S. Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.

The story is horrifying and tragic. She has experienced enormous trauma. My heart breaks for her, and I'm very grateful to all the hard-working professionals out there providing her and her family assistance in what must be a truly awful time.

The Washington Post, the conservative Daily Caller and other media outlets published stories saying that the case was unverified. The Wall Street Journal Editorial page suggested the story was a "fanciful tale." The National Review's Michael Brendan Dougherty referred to the case as "a fictive abortion and a fictive rape."

Republican Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost went on Fox News Monday to raise further doubts.

Hamilton County Republican Party Chair Alex Triantafilou on Twitter called the case, "A garbage lie that a simple google search confirms is debunked."

State Rep. Brian Stewart tweeted the Washington Post story saying he "wouldn't trust an abortionist to tell me whether the sky is blue."

Ohio U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan tweeted, "Another lie. Anyone surprised?"

The propaganda erasing this 10-year-old's existence was so swift it spread out over right-wing social media like a blanket. Those advocating the truth of her story - privately and devastatingly already confirmed for some of us - were subjected to wild-eyed mockery and ridicule.

It's incredibly disturbing that the default position of so many sick and twisted people - including Ohio's most prominent Republican elected officials - is to very vocally and very publicly question whether the rape and impregnation of a 10-year-old child ever happened.

ohiocapitaljournal.com

And let us never forget those who posted this drivel here on the Retort and then proceeded to belabor their perverted notions for hundreds of posts.

Call it what it is: Sick and Twisted.

#188 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 06:26 PM | Reply

Is it for any reason other than the fact that you're a complete -----?

#181 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Do you not recognize that this child's trauma will happen to hundreds or thousands of children across the country because of the overturning of RvW? Are you capable of understanding why that upsets people?

#189 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:27 PM | Reply

Yer an idiot for suggesting the kid suffered from "having to" travel one state over. Especially after what she's already been through.

#184 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

You do realize that states are moving to make even that illegal, right?

IDK, in my mind we should be doing all we can to reduce the trauma 10 year old rape victims suffer, but, hey you do you.

#190 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:29 PM | Reply

I don't know why it's so inconceivable to you that I might have at least some overlap on an issue with you.

If in my district candidate A runs on a plank of an abortion ban or illegal after 6 weeks that candidate will not get my vote.

If candidate B runs on a plank of zero restrictions up to the point of crowning then that candidate won't get my vote either.

At that point I'm looking at candidate C.

#158 | Posted by BellRinger

Because there's no way you're going to vote for a democrat just because of republican's theocratic position on abortion. You'll still vote R for all the other reasons - needing to cheat elections, love of pollution, wanting lunatics to have access to assault rifles, etc.

#191 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-13 06:30 PM | Reply

Funny how jeffj disappeared, I predict he will reappear in a few hours ignoring the questions posed.

#192 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:30 PM | Reply

- Sick and Twisted

aka Trump supporters and the Republicans who enable them.

#193 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-13 06:31 PM | Reply

To summarize, I can't speak for everybody here but I can't imagine anybody here disagrees with prosecuting this heinous crime, this 10-year-old girl was denied a necessary abortion because of an irresponsible law in effect in the state of Ohio, inappropriate comments of an Ohio Attorney General marginalizing a doctor in Indiana performed a medically necessary procedure.

Which pretty much puts us all 100% in agreement

And yet a bunch of you are still bleeding out of your pathetic ----

Is it for any reason other than the fact that you're a complete -----?

#181 | Posted by eberly

To summarize your summary - you carefully avoided placing the blame for all of that where it belongs. REPUBLICANS.

#194 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-13 06:31 PM | Reply

Right in the middle of all of this, Ohio lawmakers are moving to ban all abortions no matter how early it is in the pregnancy.
www.dispatch.com

#195 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-07-13 06:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Science and data prove that a new life, a new body, and a new strain of DNA begins at conception.
Michigan law must uphold this basic biological principle.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is endowed to each individual, including unborn human lives."

So... come up with a better legal argument than one that denies current medical knowledge. As I and others have said elsewhere, the rights of privacy, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and even life are not absolute, especially when one's exercise of them is impinging upon another's.

#196 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 06:34 PM | Reply

"I can't imagine anybody here disagrees with prosecuting this heinous crime, this 10-year-old girl was denied a necessary abortion"

You're right that it's a heinous crime that a 10yo was denied a necessary abortion.

It is however not a crime at law in Ohio nor under the United States Constitution.
And you don't want anyone in Ohio to be prosecuted for passing Ohio's heartbeat law.
So, kindly go ---- yourself sideways with one of the many empty whisky bottles littering your home office desk.

#197 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 06:35 PM | Reply

"So... come up with a better legal argument than one that denies current medical knowledge."

Liberty.

#198 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 06:36 PM | Reply

Yer an idiot for suggesting the kid suffered from "having to" travel one state over. Especially after what she's already been through.
#184 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Just to put in perspective, this poor child went to a Columbus OH doctor because she was impregnated by rape.

Instead of immediately providing her the counseling and medical treatment she deserves, should be entitled to and any ethical society would insist upon, she was told by the doctor that he could not remove the rapist's fetus from her body and she had to seek out a provider in a neighboring state-2.5 to 3 hours away to get the medical assistance she needed. Imagine the confusion, fear and pain that poor child was going through in the doctor's office while her fate was being decided by adults.

It truly disgusts me.

#199 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:37 PM | Reply

So... come up with a better legal argument than one that denies current medical knowledge. As I and others have said elsewhere, the rights of privacy, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and even life are not absolute, especially when one's exercise of them is impinging upon another's.

#196 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

The only legal argument that should matter is a 10 year old rape victim should not be forced to carry her rapist's fetus to term.

#200 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:38 PM | Reply

@195

FTA: "...could also potentially ban other forms of birth control such as certain intrauterine devices (or IUDs) that interfere with an already fertilized ova."

WAKE THE ---- UP PEOPLE!!!!

#201 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-07-13 06:45 PM | Reply

FTA: "...could also potentially ban other forms of birth control such as certain intrauterine devices (or IUDs) that interfere with an already fertilized ova."

^
Eberly is too drunk to see the screen right now, or he'd be telling us there's no way this becomes law.

#202 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 06:54 PM | Reply

#136 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

I swear, it seems like you are using a Scott Pakin generator for many of your long-winded posts.

#203 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 06:56 PM | Reply

"The only legal argument that should matter is a 10 year old rape victim should not be forced to carry her rapist's fetus to term."

If you're only arguing that abortion should be legal for 10-year-old rape victims, then yeah. I thought you were hoping to achieve something broader.

#204 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 07:09 PM | Reply

Yer an idiot for suggesting the kid suffered from "having to" travel one state over. Especially after what she's already been through.
#184 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

An hours long journey both ways. If it had happened next month she'd probably have been out of luck in Indiana.

Indiana could have more sweeping abortion restrictions by sometime next month as the Republican-dominated Legislature is scheduled to begin a special legislative session on July 25.

fox59.com

#205 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-13 07:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Do you not recognize that this child's trauma will happen to hundreds or thousands of children across the country because of the overturning of RvW? Are you capable of understanding why that upsets people?

I understand all of that including the part where you and your merry band of ------- are mad at me.

The tears ... ... .so delicious.

#206 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 07:17 PM | Reply

-To summarize your summary - you carefully avoided placing the blame for all of that where it belongs. REPUBLICANS.

Stupid, clearly republicans are to blame.

You are so far behind me in every argument.

Why is that, stupid? Why are you hung up on something not even remotely in question?

Jesus, you are one dumb ----.

#207 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 07:21 PM | Reply

"I thought you were hoping to achieve something broader."

That's funny right there.

That ignorant sack of sucked dicks achieve something?

#208 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 07:24 PM | Reply

"An hours long journey both ways. If it had happened next month she'd probably have been out of luck in Indiana."

Oh, the humanity! Traveling more than hour for a non-emergency medical procedure is so traumatic... it's as bad as being raped!

JHC

#209 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 07:27 PM | Reply

It wasn't a law - it was a supreme court ruling.

It may not have been a statute printed in the US Code, but you'd be an incredibly stupid person to claim that makes any difference whatsoever in practice. If SCOTUS says "you cannot pass a law allowing ____" then no laws allowing ____ can exist or be enforced, meaning there may as well be a law that says "____ is not allowed."

Roe was legislating from the bench.

Someone could just as easily say that about reversing Roe. You'll have to do better than that. Here's where you pretend the Ninth Amendment doesn't exist.

#210 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 07:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I see sentinel is picking a stupid hill to die on again.

Are you a masochist or something?

#211 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 07:35 PM | Reply

Debating Roe is a classic Jeff deflection anyway.

The fact here is that a ten year old girl was raped, and impregnated by her rapist. And thanks to an an obscene, contrived, overtly political SCOTUS ruling that Jeff and other Republicans have been begging for for decades, that girl had to travel to another state to terminate her rape pregnancy.

Congrats Jeff! I'm sure all the women and little girls in your life are so proud of you.

#212 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 07:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the rights of privacy, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and even life are not absolute, especially when one's exercise of them is impinging upon another's.
#196 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Roe didn't make the right of privacy absolute. Have you even read it?

#213 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 07:46 PM | Reply

Oh, the humanity! Traveling more than hour for a non-emergency medical procedure is so traumatic... it's as bad as being raped!
JHC

POSTED BY SENTINEL AT 2022-07-13 07:27 PM | REPLY

That girl was raped not once but twice. Once by a man and once by a draconian right wing idiology that forced her to travel to another State to get an abortion. You dummkopf.

#214 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-13 07:52 PM | Reply

SSentinel can't help bust show us his as*.

He'd have raped this 10 year old himself.

#215 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-13 08:06 PM | Reply

"That girl was raped not once but twice. Once by a man and once by a draconian right wing idiology that forced her to travel to another State to get an abortion. You dummkopf."

Thank you for illustrating my point. You actually believe that having to travel to another state is equivalent to being raped.

The jury is still out as whether she actually "had to" travel to another state. I'd be surprised if anyone was actually prosecuted much less convicted in an exceptional case like this. Did the doctor actually call around to other in-state providers to see if any of them were less cowardly than hers?

#216 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 08:07 PM | Reply

"That girl was raped not once but twice. Once by a man and once by a draconian right wing idiology that forced her to travel to another State to get an abortion. You dummkopf."

Thank you for illustrating my point. You actually believe that having to travel to another state is equivalent to being raped.

The jury is still out as whether she actually "had to" travel to another state. I'd be surprised if anyone was actually prosecuted much less convicted in an exceptional case like this. Did the doctor actually call around to other in-state providers to see if any of them were less cowardly than hers?

#217 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 08:07 PM | Reply

I see sentinel is picking a stupid hill to die on again.
Are you a masochist or something?
#211 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

He's definitely a misogynist.

And a white supremacist.

#218 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-13 08:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#215 | POSTED BY REZA THE ------

The reason I say Reza acts like a ------ isn't because he's a homosexual. It's because he acts like a ------- ------. And now we know he fantasizes about 10-year-olds being raped by people he interacts with. Sick ----.

#219 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 08:13 PM | Reply

#218 Yeppers and a royal bastard too.

#220 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-07-13 08:14 PM | Reply

I heard that you like it-----------.

#221 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 08:18 PM | Reply

216-217

The point is that the Ohio doctor was not an attorney, and at the time of the referral - June 27th - the Ohio doctor was unsure whether or not the girl could receive a legal abortion in Ohio since her pregnancy was beyond 6 weeks, with the 6 week point being the operative focus.

Thankfully, the Ohio doctor didn't waste time trying to discern how Ohio's just instituted law that went into effect on/after 6/24 affected the child and instead focused upon getting the child care where the 6 week marker would not have been relevant.

The child received her abortion on 6/30 - exactly one week to the day after the Dobbs ruling was released. I praise the Ohio doctor for doing what was done to help the child since I have little doubt had her pre-abortion plight been publicly learned, there would have been anti-abortion forces in Ohio trying to get an injunction stopping her from utilizing what now GOP politicians are saying makes an abortion under her circumstances still legal.

#222 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 08:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The tears of a ten year old rape victim having to cross state lines for an abortion ... so delicious.
#206 | POSTED BY EBERLY

#223 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 08:20 PM | Reply

#222 | Posted by tonyroma

Indiana's legislature is meeting July 25th over the SC ruling, likely joining Ohio and other idiot states.

drudge.com

#224 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-13 08:23 PM | Reply

Oh, the humanity! Traveling more than hour for a non-emergency medical procedure is so traumatic... it's as bad as being raped!

JHC

#209 | Posted by sentinel

Any decent person wouldn't consider it a non-emergency medical procedure. Both the rape and resulting procedure were traumatic.

She's ****ing 10, you POS.

#225 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-07-13 08:27 PM | Reply

"Indiana's legislature is meeting July 25th over the SC ruling, likely joining Ohio and other idiot states."

We can't let Indiana be a haven for irrseonpsible 10yo rape victims seeking abortion!

Signed,
Party of Personal Responsibility

#226 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 08:28 PM | Reply

#224.

I know, I live here.

#227 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-13 08:30 PM | Reply

you're so edgy, ssentinel.

#228 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-07-13 08:30 PM | Reply

Acyn
@Acyn
Indiana AG: This girl was politicized for the gain of killing more babies ... The lame stream media and the fake news is right behind it.

mobile.twitter.com

#229 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-13 08:34 PM | Reply

"Any decent person wouldn't consider it a non-emergency medical procedure"

Choosing or pretending to be pig ignorant of how medical procedures work doesn't make you more decent than others. You're just being histrionic. The doctor who referred this patient out of state obviously did not consider it to be an emergency.

#230 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-13 08:37 PM | Reply

Stupid, clearly republicans are to blame.

You are so far behind me in every argument.

Why is that, stupid? Why are you hung up on something not even remotely in question?

Jesus, you are one dumb ----.

#207 | Posted by eberly

I'm not the one who keeps voting for a party that you admit passes irresponsible laws like this. You are.

#231 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-13 08:41 PM | Reply

That ignorant sack of sucked dicks achieve something?

#208 | Posted by eberly

Eb's triggered everybody. He can't defend his party on this issue and he knows it. Stand back this is when the homosexual slurs start slipping out of his subconscious.

#232 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-13 08:43 PM | Reply

-Eb's triggered everybody

Yeah. Didn't mean to to that.

I mean some of your are just too easy to start bawling when I slap the ---- out of your mouth but victims with tears flowing came out of the woodwork.

#233 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 08:48 PM | Reply

-I'm not the one who keeps voting for a party that you admit passes irresponsible laws like this. You are.

That's all you have. You pathetic cockroach.

That's not even true yet it's all you have.

Pathetic cockroach.

#234 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 08:50 PM | Reply

I think it's worth looking at the concerted effort to call it a hoax.

Those who thought it was, or certainly talked a lot about how it might be, are ---- eaters.

#235 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-13 08:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-He can't defend his party on this issue and he knows it.

You see me defending them?

Here is what I mean ... ..can you defend this rapist? Of course not and you KNOW IT.

You forever remain too dumb to understand what being a registered member of a political can mean. You keep trying to take the angle that I believe in everything the GOP legislates.

Every time you go there that's all that happens. You just look dumb.

#236 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 08:56 PM | Reply

Eb's triggered everybody.

Not really. I don't even read his trash anymore. Can't think of a less substantive person here honestly.

#237 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-13 08:59 PM | Reply

That's all you have. You pathetic cockroach.

That's not even true yet it's all you have.

Pathetic cockroach.

#234 | Posted by eberly

Not supporting fascists is ALL I have over you?

That's a pretty big difference.

Can you write one post without talking about ----- or dicks or --------? You really should just ---- a man already and get it over with so you can stop obsessing over it.

#238 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-13 09:02 PM | Reply

SSomeone needs a sserious mushroom sstamp.

#239 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-13 09:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I wish trolls like stupid and the energizer bunny would take Joe's advice and ignore me.

#240 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 09:04 PM | Reply

Stupid ... .please see Joes post

I'm not substantial enough to waste time on.

#241 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-13 09:06 PM | Reply

Title should read illegal alien charged.....

#133 | POSTED BY MSGT

Then it would not be truthful. The dude might be an "alien" but being an "alien" is not illegal.

Try again xenophobe.

#242 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-13 10:16 PM | Reply

There are a lot of overly emotional coozes on this page. Pretty humorous, actually.

#243 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 10:42 PM | Reply

#242 "Illegal alien" is a long-established term that is used to describe a person who has entered this country illegally.

As it pertains to this story, for me his legal residence status doesn't matter. It has nothing to do with the issues at hand.

#244 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-13 10:44 PM | Reply

"Illegal alien" is a long-established term that is used ...

... by xenophobes, like you.

Europeans come to the nation, kill or maim everyone living here, then claim everyone else is here illegally.

It's white supremacy to its core.

#245 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-14 12:14 AM | Reply

There are a lot of overly emotional coozes on this page.

Awe, isn't it cute how you project your Cooz on others.

#246 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-14 12:15 AM | Reply

"#245 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK"

I know you think you sound cool, edgy and "educated" by spouting leftwing cliches, but it's shallow thinking.

You are comparing apples and oranges and you know it.

You claim that Europeans came here illegally, subjugated the indigenous population and then claimed the land as its own. Yep, it's called warfare and it's existed throughout the existence of humans on this planet dating back hundreds of thousands of years.

To the victors go the spoils. Where your logic is taking you is that those who are currently entering illegally are "invaders" and are attempting to usurp our sovereignty and shouldn't be treated as people looking for economic opportunity who choose to try and jump the line, but should be treated as actual enemies.

That's messed up, but there you are.

#247 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-14 12:23 AM | Reply

"You claim that Europeans came here illegally, subjugated the indigenous population and then claimed the land as its own. Yep, it's called warfare and it's existed throughout the existence of humans on this planet dating back hundreds of thousands of years."

^
The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion [ ... ] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do. -- Samuel P. Huntington

#248 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-14 12:37 AM | Reply

To the victors go the spoils

^
Might Makes Right

#249 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-14 12:37 AM | Reply

"To the victors go the spoils"

This means the rapist should be able to keep the baby, right?

#250 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-14 12:39 AM | Reply

"The tears ... ... .so delicious." "Might Makes Right" This. Some people are not here to discuss anything. They are anger addicts who want others to be hateful and angry too. That is it. There is no insight or sharing to get to anything concrete or positive. Just piss. What a waste of an existence. I hope one day they know what a hug feels like but I doubt anyone will touch them.

#251 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-07-14 12:56 AM | Reply

"What a waste of an existence. I hope one day they know what a hug feels like but I doubt anyone will touch them."

You know how if children don't learn to speak a language by a certain age, they never will?
I think it's like that with these guys -- almost always guys -- and empathy.
I'm sure in some, it's absent from birth. But others, you can tell they've put a lot of work into hardening their hearts. They've really made it the centerpiece of their humanity.

#252 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-14 01:02 AM | Reply

I haven't heard much about the arrested man. This leads me to suspect that the likelihood of him being a "Good Christian," most likely a conservative is, IMO, very high.

If he were gay or a liberal, this would be what we would all be talking about. Maybe I'm wrong, but the longer it takes for us to hear more about him, the higher the probability of him being a Republican is ... and that means the media's reporting in it is going to be ... protective. Wouldn't want to conflate child r-pists with Christian conservatives, we all know that kind of thing never happens.

Not knowing anything about him, I'm curious to see how it all plays out.

#253 | Posted by chuffy at 2022-07-14 04:46 AM | Reply

Oh, undocumented Guatemalan man. Welp, that's got an obvious trajectory.

#254 | Posted by chuffy at 2022-07-14 04:56 AM | Reply

-Some people are not here to discuss anything.

And my post was a slap in the face to all of the people you're describing

Snoofy
Speakstupid
Clownshart
Etc ... .

#255 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-14 06:17 AM | Reply

My apologies to the left: They were right all along.

Illegal aliens are in fact raping 10-year-olds.

#256 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-07-14 10:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is it time for this thread to disappear yet?

#257 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-07-14 11:20 AM | Reply

Don't worry. if it does we'll continue to rub your face in it for months to come.

#258 | Posted by YAV at 2022-07-14 11:23 AM | Reply

"rub your face in it for months to come"

You mean like the ------- perpetrator in this story did?

#259 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-07-14 03:57 PM | Reply

"It's white supremacy to its core."

Was it white supremacy when the Romans were subjugating all the other white europeans?

What sort of supremacy was it when the Arabs invaded Europe and subjugated them?

Judging things that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago under a modern lens makes no sense to me. Or are you going to boycott Fiji becuase they used to eat people?

#260 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-07-14 04:50 PM | Reply

"Judging things that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago under a modern lens makes no sense to me."

Show us how that works.
Do The Church and Galileo, with the lens of 1633 for us.

#261 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-14 04:54 PM | Reply

...and then at least one pol in Ohio referred to the 52 rapes of children last year as "rare," as if that is an excuse to pass such a no-exception abortion ban!
Gee, only 52 children were pregnant by rape in Ohio!
See, it was God's will they become child mothers. *snark*

#262 | Posted by e1g1 at 2022-07-14 07:18 PM | Reply

1/week is a small price to pay. Just like six year-olds being shot in the face and decapitated in their classrooms...

Republican ideals of freedom and greatness!

#263 | Posted by chuffy at 2022-07-14 07:39 PM | Reply

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