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Wednesday, July 27, 2022

Florida politicians and local Jewish leaders are demanding Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis condemn a group of neo-Nazis who congregated outside a Tampa convention center over the weekend ...

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DeSantis is as fascist as they currently get. These are his peeps!

#1 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-07-27 02:55 AM | Reply

Biden and most Dems are more fascist than Desantis. Nevertheless, he does exhibit some fascist tendencies.

#2 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 03:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Ron DeSantis, tyro fascist to the core, will not condemn fascists for being fascists. For the base, fascism is the norm, sort of a gold standard - kind of like the RNC attempting to gloss its leader's attempt to violently overthrow the US government by taking a vote, doing a count, and declaring it "legitimate political discourse."

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#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-07-27 05:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Does this question really need to be asked?

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2022-07-27 07:34 AM | Reply

Those "supporters" appeared to be plants. They were shunned by those present and denied entry into the building.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 10:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 5

JeffJ wasn't there so he can't say if true or not. But considering it's being reported by the mainstream media, it's probably false.
#4 | POSTED BY SNOOFY
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#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-27 10:27 AM | Reply

"They were shunned by those present"

LOL. If they were waving Biden banners around there would have been a physical altercation at minimum.

#7 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-07-27 10:37 AM | Reply

@#5 ... Those "supporters" appeared to be plants. ...

Plants or not, Gov DeSantis should have denounced them.

But he won't because those are the voters he needs.

The same reason why fmr Pres Trump didn't denounce Charlottesville, instead went with the ~good people on both sides~ fiasco..




#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-07-27 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

To denounce them is to acknowledge them. So called Nazis showed up at a Youngkin bus campaign stop. They were proven to be plants. There are probably fewer than 100 actual Nazis in the state of Florida. Lefties are so ridiculous these days.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 11:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Plants or not, Gov DeSantis should have denounced them.

But he won't because those are the voters he needs.

Sporkfoot is a self proclaimed "Christian Nationalist" or NAZI.

Matt Gaetz too.

You can use code words all you want but at least have the balls to either say you're a NAZI or you hate NAZI's. By sitting on that fence you are giving them a platform and giving them tacit approval of the hate they are spreading including murdering kids in schools and people grocery shopping.

Just like sitting on camera and flashing the white power symbol. You are giving some racist incel the tacit approval they need to murder people. Saying "well I never support murder" is cute, but by flashing the symbol contradicts everything you say opposing murder. Period. Anyone with half a brain can see where you really stand.

But that is who they need to gain power.

There is NOT GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES if one of the sides is NAZI's. Period.

#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-07-27 11:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So called Nazis showed up at a Youngkin bus campaign stop.

BS. You have no decency nor honor. All you do is obfuscate and outright lie. 5 people with tiki torches, white shirts and khakis stood beside Youngkin's bus, not Nazis carrying and waving flags and distributing Nazi propaganda. It was obvious what they represented by anyone with two firing neurons - the Charlottesville rioters, and they openly tried to tie Youngkin's to Trump's embrace of white supremacy.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-07-27 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#9 ... There are probably fewer than 100 actual Nazis in the state of Florida. ...

Then it shouldn't matter if Gov DeSantis denounces them.

The problem that Gov DeSantis has is that there are many people in Florida who like what the Nazis espouse. They may not be actual Nazis but they support them. Those are the ones that Gov DeSantis needs. Even more so if you look at his possible Presidential run and the need to win Repiblican primaries.

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-07-27 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

DeSantis is potentially much more dangerous than Trump.

There's nothing funny about him and is Banana Republic dictatorship style.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-27 12:11 PM | Reply

@#11 ... 5 people with tiki torches, white shirts and khakis stood beside Youngkin's bus, ...

Lincoln Project members pose as white supremacists at Virginia GOP event
www.theguardian.com

...The Lincoln Project has confirmed it was behind a political stunt in which five members posed as white supremacists carrying tiki torches at a campaign stop for Glenn Youngkin, the Republican candidate for governor in Virginia, in Charlottesville ahead of election day next week.

Members of the anti-Trump Republican group stood in front of Youngkin's campaign bus on Friday wearing white shirts, khaki pants and sunglasses.

They were attempting to evoke an infamous far-right torchlit march at the University of Virginia in August 2017, a day before a self-described neo-Nazi killed a counter-protester with his car. As the Lincoln Project mounted the stunt, jurors in a civil lawsuit over the rally were beginning to hear testimony....


#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-07-27 12:12 PM | Reply

Of course DeSantis won't condemn Nazis.

Have you seen the way he's governing Florida?

There's thought control in Florida.

You don't have a right to the first amendment.

Can't talk about slavery. Can't be homosexual. Can't protest in the streets.

Nazis have free reign to express their hate.

He's turning Florida into a Nazi utopia.

#15 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-27 12:31 PM | Reply

It's interest how BellyAche spent the entire thread, several posts, defending DeSantis and the Nazis.

The guy is garbage. Mentally fkkked up. It's why he blindly votes party line Republican ever chance he gets.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-27 12:34 PM | Reply

There are probably fewer than 100 actual Nazis in the state of Florida. Lefties are so ridiculous these days.

#9 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

That's 100 too many.

The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

And you "probably " have no clue how many Nazis are actually in Florida. But I would bet it's more than a hundred.

"Southern Poverty Law Center estimates that Florida is home to 68 hate groups, the second-highest number of any state."

Enjoy your hate groups Floriduh.

You reap what you sow.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-27 03:30 PM | Reply

Ballwasher is a g-d idiot.

#18 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-07-27 03:59 PM | Reply

" There are probably fewer than 100 actual Nazis in the state of Florida."

Are you joking? Or are you planning on dancing on the pin of "actual" ... ?

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-27 05:13 PM | Reply

He's defending his fellow Nazis.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-27 05:24 PM | Reply

#12 Sorry, that is simply a really bad take.

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 05:41 PM | Reply

#19 How many do you think there are?

Lemme guess.....9 million.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 05:46 PM | Reply

You people really are ------- dumb.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 05:47 PM | Reply

The problem that Gov DeSantis has is that there are many people in Florida who like what the Nazis espouse.

FACT. Florida is the land of the Nazis! All people I have ever met from Florida are all Nazis!

More than likely, all the people on the Drudge from Florida are Nazis!

#24 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-27 05:53 PM | Reply

You people really are ------- dumb.

No, serious Florida is full of ------- Nazis, show me some one that says they are from Florida, and I'll show you a Nazi!

#25 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-27 05:55 PM | Reply

"How many do you think there are?"

I'll take the OVER.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-27 06:31 PM | Reply

"Florida is the land of the Nazis! All people I have ever met from Florida are all Nazis!"

Every now and then, you find the needle in the haystack.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-27 06:38 PM | Reply

The US government and mass media won't denounce Ukrainian Nazis. Maybe loving Nazis is contagious. The whole Nazi loving thing has become very prominent lately.

Myself, I hate and condemn Nazis wherever they are found, in Florida,Virginia,or the Ukraine.

#28 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-07-27 07:05 PM | Reply

#28

The one trick pony is back.

#29 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-07-27 08:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yup.

#30 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-07-27 09:53 PM | Reply

= Ukrainian Nazis.

Still lying....

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2022-07-27 10:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

... Why Won't DeSantis Denounce His Nazi Supporters? ...

Ask a simple question, get a simple answer.

Because Gov DeSantis' Nazi supporters are a critical part of his his base as he moves into the primaries for the Oval Office.

Next question...

#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-07-27 11:20 PM | Reply

#32,,That is so effing retarded.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 11:24 PM | Reply

@#28 ... Myself ...

Oh please.

Your alias seems to be concerned only with the talking points it is fed.

Please stop trying to assert your alias actually has a personality here.

Your alias has not shown any indication of that.

Your alias' attempts to "fit in" are way too obvious.

Maybe it is time for the St. Petersburg troll factory to come up with yet another alias...

Troll factory' spreading Russian pro-war lies online, says UK (April 2022)
www.theguardian.com



#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-07-27 11:28 PM | Reply

@#33 ... That is so effing retarded. ...

Yet, your comment offers no reasons why.

#35 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-07-27 11:29 PM | Reply

#35 I shouldn't even dignify this but I will anyway.

DeSantis is a flawed politician. Having said that, I have yet to see him throw "Nazi's" any kind of a bone whatsoever - no pandering, no 'dog-whistles', nothing. You are condemning him not for something he has done, but for something he hasn't done.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 11:39 PM | Reply

Further, these idiots were very likely plants. They aren't supporters and even if they were, they probably aren't now, given how they were snubbed. Going even further, they didn't do anything. They didn't burn down any buildings. They didn't assault anyone. Nothing to condemn other than their choice of clothing and the flags they apparently purchased that same day.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 11:42 PM | Reply

Flint Water Jeff is the racist pissant who says the nazis who killed Heather Heyer were very likely plants.

#38 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-27 11:53 PM | Reply

Even never-trumpers like Cheney and Kinzinger are keenly aware of how crucial the nazi dirtbags are to the future of the GQP.

www.vice.com

#39 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-07-28 12:16 AM | Reply

these idiots were very likely plants.

Who are you kidding? Yourself?

Stopped reading right there, you're either trolling or too stupid to be taken seriously.

Congratulations. You've become HumTake.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-28 12:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Further, these idiots were very likely plants. "

From poser who is very likely a "plant".

Not much smarter than a potted plant anyway.

You are condemning him not for something he has done, but for something he hasn't done.

#36 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER Mr Blah blah blah.

You're trying to hard. He needs to condemn Nazis and all they stand for. Nazis are not something you tolerate. It's a moral imperative. Remember morals??

Doing nothing about Nazis and tolerance of their ideology is not a good policy.

Are you from Florida? You sure seem invested in Florida Nazis.

Anyway ... Enjoy your Florida Nazis Comrade Dumass.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-28 12:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You have manure for your brains.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 12:55 AM | Reply

BTW - when was the last time Biden or Obama condemned Communists and Communism?

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 12:56 AM | Reply

You have manure for your brains.

#42 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Hmmm ... . I got manure brains??

Ok.

That's some food for thought.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-28 01:16 AM | Reply

when was the last time Biden or Obama condemned Communists and Communism?

#43 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Seriously? What about Obama and Biden??

Seriously?

Better eat more my manure. You still can't think clearly yet.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-28 01:18 AM | Reply

This is a stupid comment:

"He needs to condemn Nazis and all they stand for"

Nazi's barely even exist any more and have ZERO power. This is just a bunch of left-wing stupidity.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 01:25 AM | Reply

Nazi's barely even exist any more and have ZERO power. This is just a bunch of left-wing stupidity.

#46 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Thanks for a whole bunch of yer right wing stupidity

Define "barely exist".

Tell Charlottesville Va. that they just "barely exist". They came from all over America to terrorize that town.

According to the southern poverty law center there are at least 8-10 thousand actual Nazis and many thousands more who share the same alt-right white supremacy beliefs apparently .

And Florida probably has way more than it's fairs share.

And contrarian bigots who like you enable them will always exist.

But now we've seen what happens when they're emboldened by Trumpy and his deplorables who let them abandon the anonymity of the internet.

They're certainly not welcome in Charlottesville anymore, and they're not welcome in the mainstream. They are not welcome anywhere except by Trumpy and Trumpers like you. Apparently.

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-28 01:59 AM | Reply

"According to the southern poverty law center there are at least 8-10 thousand actual Nazis"

Wow! 8-10 thousand in a country of 330 million. That is 0.00003% of the population. OMG!!!!

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 02:09 AM | Reply

They effing Run the Ukraine. Stepan Bandera is a hero of the people according to the Ukrainian government. Lvov has a thirty foot statue of that murdering Nazi human excrement, but there are "no Nazis in the Ukraine". Yeah.

Why is there no outrage or even admission that the Ukraine has a huge Nazi problem?

Y'all hate them here but love them there.

Stupid.

#49 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-07-28 03:02 AM | Reply

This whole concept that if you don't specifically condemn something you must be for it is the STUPIDIST taking point ever.

I haven't heard Biden speak up to condemn Nazis this week, I guess he must be a Nazi too?

#50 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-28 03:58 AM | Reply

...when was the last time Biden or Obama condemned Communists and Communism?
#43 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

When was the last time that folks waving Communist flags showed up at a Biden event?
Communists hate Biden.

...haven't heard Biden speak up to condemn Nazis this week...
#50 | Posted by Miranda7

When was the last time that folks waving Nazi flags showed up at a Biden event?
Nazis hate Biden.

#51 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2022-07-28 08:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As to Biden BECAUSE Nazis hate him there are likely Nazi protesters at his events. There are ALWAYS a few Nazi/Aryan types protesting in Lafayette Park across the street from the White House, The President can see these people from his window. That is why protesters of every flavor are there, 24/7. Some of them live there full time. I don't expect the President to make a daily, weekly or monthly statement condemning them or even acknowledging their presence.

As to DeSantis, First of all there were exactly two Nazi flags being carried outside the building where the event was held.
Secondly it was not a DeSantis event, there were many speakers. Most of them probably never even saw the flags.
Thirdly, the event organizers made a statement condemning the display of the flags

The idea that every speaker should be expected to dedicate part of their remarks to these two protesters is ridiculous and only gives time and attention to these hateful Nazis.

I assume that functioning members of society condemn Nazis, child abuse, rape, murder, animal torture and other horrible things unless I have a clear reason to believe otherwise. Apparently you assume the opposite, What a depressing way to live

#52 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-28 09:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I assume that functioning members of society condemn Nazis, child abuse, rape, murder, animal torture and other horrible things"

How much of society has functioning members?

Is Trump one?

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-28 09:56 AM | Reply

Why should he even acknowledge them?

#54 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-28 10:53 AM | Reply

There you go

The "conservative" solution to everything is to ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist

That's just step 1

#55 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2022-07-28 11:04 AM | Reply

" Wow! 8-10 thousand in a country of 330 million. That is 0.00003% of the population. OMG!!!!"

Two things about that.

One, you get the decimal point OR the percentage sign, but not both. Your claim, as it stands, is dead wrong.

Two, using the correct number and FL's population, your claim of 100 Nazis statewide is off by over 500%.

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-28 11:23 AM | Reply

A politician like DeSantis would be a fool to attack his own base.

#57 | Posted by anton at 2022-07-28 11:23 AM | Reply

Boneheads who downplay the threat of right-wing violence in America very often also think America is under constitute threat or attack from "communists."
And they think Democrats are communists.
The American right as presently constituted is dismally stupid.

#58 | Posted by anton at 2022-07-28 11:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

constant threat. Agh.

#59 | Posted by anton at 2022-07-28 11:26 AM | Reply

DeSantis is a flawed politician. Having said that, I have yet to see him throw "Nazi's" any kind of a bone whatsoever - no pandering, no 'dog-whistles', nothing

Then you have a very narrow definition of "nazi."

Constantly attacking and vilifying the media is an element of nazism and was a favorite tactic of Goebbels Hitler. Look up Lgenpresse if you really don't understand this.

Attacking free speech is another tenet of nazism. Desantis openly and proudly uses government resources to attack those with whom he disagrees politically. If you dont see shadows of nazism here then you are blind and stupid.

So yeah, Desantis hasn't literally come out and said "i'm a nazi" and done the sieg heil salute, and i'm betting even if he did the only thing you'd do in response is deflect to a Democrat.

#60 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-28 11:28 AM | Reply

Goebbels *and* Hitler.

#61 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-28 11:29 AM | Reply

"That is 0.00003% of the population."

So? A tiny amount of CO2, measured in parts per million, is causing global warming.
So why wouldn't a tiny amount of Nazis be able to change things?

You tell me. You're the one claiming small numbers make Nazis harmless.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-28 11:33 AM | Reply

Trump was asked to denounce white supremacists, point blank, in the debate. Wouldn't do it. Told them to stand by. Has them on speed dial.

#63 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2022-07-28 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Then you have a very narrow definition of "nazi.""

You have an absurdly broad definition of Nazi - basically anyone you disagree with politically. DeSantis is a bit of an authoritarian, I will grant you that. But he's no Nazi. Any time a lefty plays the Nazi card they've already lost the argument.

#64 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 12:15 PM | Reply

"Wow! 8-10 thousand in a country of 330 million. That is 0.00003% of the population. OMG!!!!"

That's just the actual Nazis. Now add in all the moronic supporters of Nazis like you Trumpers.

Trumpy's base 30-40% of the voting population.

Ignore them at your own risk DingDong.

How many Nazis and white supremacists does it take to attack the US Capitol?

#65 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-28 12:16 PM | Reply

So far a14 mentions of Trump on a thread that isn't about Trump. Nice going, keep up the good work.

#66 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-07-28 12:16 PM | Reply

"isn't about Trump."

If it's about Republicans, it's about Trump.

Own it.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-28 12:19 PM | Reply

" a thread that isn't about Trump"

It's about politicians, and why some of them won't condemn Nazis. Trump is an obvious example, as was the lack of blowback from Republicans.

#68 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-28 12:19 PM | Reply

#66. That's actually a really low number for this place. Normally all but one or two comments on a thread that isn't about Trump end up circling back to Trump. Fact is these people hate DeSantis more than they hate Trump and it will be evident if DeSantis runs and wins the primary.

So we are enjoying a higher number of posts that are on topic.

#69 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 12:21 PM | Reply

So far a14 mentions of Trump on a thread that isn't about Trump. Nice going, keep up the good work.
#66 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Nice job bumping the count by mentioning Trump!
You're good at mentioning Trump, did you know that?

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-28 12:24 PM | Reply

According to Danforth logic Republicans must denounce every nasty ideology or person daily otherwise they support it. Meanwhile the Biden administration defends and even encourages protests at the homes of some Supreme Court justices even after an assassination attempt on Kavanaugh. Danforth is totally good with that because (D).

#71 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 12:25 PM | Reply

"According to Danforth logic Republicans must denounce every nasty ideology"

I never said that, ever. You're just embarrassed actual facts and math once again expose you as either a liar or an idiot.

I'll be a gentleman, and let YOU tell US why your math was off by over 900%, and your "Nazi" claim by 500%.

"even after an assassination attempt on Kavanaugh."

Fat talk from a guy who won't call 1/6 at "assassination attempt on Mike Pence".

Got double-standards?

#72 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-28 12:29 PM | Reply

You have an absurdly broad definition of Nazi - basically anyone you disagree with politically.

No, ------. There are politicians i disagree with politically who do not constantly attack the press and use government resources and power to stifle free speech.

#73 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-28 12:30 PM | Reply

If it's about Republicans, it's about Trump.

Own it.

#67 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

The Republican Party is dead. It's the Trumpy party now.

Go read their platform.

RESOLVED, That the Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the President's Previous Guy's America-first agenda;

That's pretty much it.

Bye bye American Pie!

#74 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-28 12:30 PM | Reply

" the Biden administration defends and even encourages protests at the homes of some Supreme Court justices"

Feel free to post anything from "the Biden administration" which encourages picketing SCOTUS homes.

Alternately, if you have no proof, have the honor to admit as much.

#75 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-28 12:31 PM | Reply

" Feel free to post anything from "the Biden administration" which encourages picketing SCOTUS homes"

" "I know that there is an outrage right now about protests that have been peaceful to date," Psaki said in a May 10 press briefing. "We certainly continue to encourage that outside of judge's homes."

I'm pretty sure you are aware of this.

#76 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 12:42 PM | Reply

#73. Attack the press? It's called pushback when the press assumes the role of Pravda for the DNC.

Attacking free speech???? Can you cite an example?

#77 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 12:44 PM | Reply

" We certainly continue to encourage that outside of judge's homes."

That's not encouraging them to gather, it's encouraging them, if they gather, to remain peaceful.

#78 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-28 12:51 PM | Reply

77 You are unreachable and i'm not going to give examples that you are just going to Goatman to death for failure to meet your exceedingly ridiculous definitions of things. ---- off.

#79 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-28 12:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

BTW, while it's against the law to protest outside of a SCOTUS home to influence future decisions, all a protester would have to do is claim he wasn't trying to influence any future decisions, but rather was protesting the Justices not striking down the Texas bounty law.

#80 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-28 12:55 PM | Reply

Why is anyone pretending it's somehow unusual for Nazis to be at Republican events? They're at every rally.

Several white supremacists, and people who espouse Nazi ideology, have won Republican nominations and elections.

Republicans like MGT and Paul Gosar have spoken at a white supremacist rallies.

Trump called them, "Very fine people."

They applauded Trump as a "Victory for White Life".

They voted against a neo Nazi probe of the Military.

They're anti CRT, pro Replacement Theory.

You don't have to be a Nazi to be a Republican. But it helps.

#81 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-28 12:57 PM | Reply

" the press assumes the role of Pravda for the DNC."

Clearly, Bellringer is stll butt-hurt because every outlet didn't run with "HB's Laptop".

#82 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-28 12:59 PM | Reply

Easy answer, you don't give attention to the crazies. Dems have built their entire platform on catering to the crazies and that has helped turn their party into a bunch of nonsense.

Let's get some hard questions, please.

" the Biden administration defends and even encourages protests at the homes of some Supreme Court justices"
" Feel free to post anything from "the Biden administration" which encourages picketing SCOTUS homes"
" We certainly continue to encourage that outside of judge's homes."
"That's not encouraging them to gather, it's encouraging them, if they gather, to remain peaceful."

This is the exact same garbage logic that Liberal fact checkers use to say something is false. He said the Biden admin is encouraging protests. He didn't say anything about doing it peacefully or anything else. He just said the Biden admin is encouraging the activity. You responded with a statement that proved the Biden admin is encouraging it. Then you yourself added the whole peaceful part to it. You didn't disprove anything. You added your own context. It would be the same as someone saying "I'm going to kill that guy over there", someone telling them, "OK, if you kill that guy over there you should use a gun", and then consider yourself completely innocent of the killing. No, you aren't completely at fault but you would get in some kind of predicament when people find out you said to use a gun, and would probably be in legal trouble for not reporting it, which does put SOME blame on you.

Logic just escapes so many people sometimes when they are so blinded by partisan hate.

#83 | Posted by humtake at 2022-07-28 12:59 PM | Reply

"You don't have to be a Nazi to be a Republican."

Well, either Nazi, or not-see. In the end, the vote is the same.

#84 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-07-28 01:00 PM | Reply

Of course all Republicans aren't Nazis,
But all Nazis? Let's guess what party they're in.

#85 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2022-07-28 01:03 PM | Reply

-This whole concept that if you don't specifically condemn something you must be for it is the STUPIDIST taking point ever.

Nobody cares much pretends to care except people who won't vote for DeSantis no matter what.

republicans? no chance...they don't care. moderates? they don't care about much, which is what makes them moderates.

Trump has proven the racist, nazi, fascist, sociopath label doesn't work.

#86 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-28 01:16 PM | Reply

" 77 You are unreachable and i'm not going to give examples that you are just going to Goatman to death for failure to meet your exceedingly ridiculous definitions of things. ---- off.

#79 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2022-07-28 12:51 PM | FLAG: "

Translation - can't back up your BS.

#87 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 01:17 PM | Reply

" That's not encouraging them to gather, it's encouraging them, if they gather, to remain peaceful.

#78 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2022-07-28 12:51 PM | FLAG: "

I hope your back is okay after carrying that much water.

#88 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 01:18 PM | Reply

Trump has proven the racist, nazi, fascist, sociopath label doesn't work.
#86 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Especially not to people like you.

Which is why conservatives feel free to be more openly racist and hateful than they have been at any prior moment of my lifetime.

Don't know when Republicans decided they were cool with Nazis openly waving their flags at GOP rallies.

I know they wouldn't have been tolerated back in the 50s and 60s.

But here we are.

Conservatives, defending Nazis.

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-28 01:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-But here we are.

Exactly. Where people like you pretend to care.

These threads are always the same thing. Nothing more than a temper tantrum over the reality that nobody cares.

and you just can't handle it. It just kills you.

#90 | Posted by eberly at 2022-07-28 01:39 PM | Reply

Trump has proven the racist, nazi, fascist, sociopath label doesn't work on Republicans.

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-28 01:50 PM | Reply

the reality that nobody cares.

Interestingly enough, when Nazis show up to Democratic rallies, they get punched in the face.

Eberly, all you got is projection, the reality is, you don't care. Like I said in the first place.

Too many Republicans, have become apathetic to the Republican Party's embrace of white supremacy and domestic terrorism.

#92 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-28 02:01 PM | Reply

Translation - can't back up your BS.

No --------. I've already pointed out the primary Desantis tactics that mirror nazi ones. Now you want specific examples even though there have been threads about them on this site that you participated in. The fact that you're asking for things you already know about strongly suggests that you intend to Goatman me to death about how "well technically under this strained reading of this obscure 19th-century dictionary definition of "speech" that is the 17th one down the list, it wasnt an attack on free speech."

No. Not participating. ---- off.

#93 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-28 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Joe,

Your examples are stupid. Really, really stupid. Like I said, when you play the Nazi card you've already lost.
Go stick your thumb up your ass.

#94 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 03:54 PM | Reply

Anyone, (who is honest) who has frequented north Florida knows it's full of racist bubba's and nazi fetishizers.
There is no doubt. It's undeniable

#95 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2022-07-28 04:00 PM | Reply

Your examples are stupid.

You're really stupid.

Joe knows his audience.

#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-28 04:01 PM | Reply

Anyone, (who is honest) who has frequented north Florida knows

JeffJ's never been outside his wife's basement, in Michigan.

But he's sure he knows there aren't any Nazis in Florida.

Also, if they are Nazis, what's the big deal?

JeffJ is sure Nazis are fine people. Trump said so.

#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-28 04:04 PM | Reply

94 Using government power and resources to punish and chill political speech you disagree with is dangerous, naziesque, and something you'd be throwing daily fits about if a democrat (especially a black one) did. So I don't really give two ----- if you don't like my examples; you're a proven hack ------ who would let a nazi throw you in a ------- gas chamber if he ran as a Republican.

#98 | Posted by JOE at 2022-07-28 04:29 PM | Reply

94 I presume you are talking about the Disney thing.

I don't disagree with you but it's not Nazi behavior. Call it authoritarian if you want and I won't challenge it.

Having said that, all he really did was take away an advantage Disney had over its competitors. Nothing wrong with that on paper. He essentially did the right thing for the wrong reason.

#99 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-28 04:44 PM | Reply

You people really are ------- dumb.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-07-27 05:47 PM

Define "fascist", because, from your use of it, you have no clue what the word actually represents.

#100 | Posted by morris at 2022-07-28 04:48 PM | Reply

"94 I presume you are talking about the Disney thing."

Or the Don't Say Gay thing, or the Volusia County civil forfeiture thing, or the accusing the COVID-19 data scientist of hacking thing.

#101 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-28 04:48 PM | Reply

"Having said that, all he really did was take away an advantage Disney had over its competitors."

^
That's not even true. Other organizations still have these advantages.

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-28 04:50 PM | Reply

Ronald Reagan never denounced his White Supremacist supporters. He used to say, "just because they support me doesn't mean I support them". Which was a dishonest way of painlessly embracing the support of this nation's ugliest hate groups. And as we all know by now, it was RR who wrote the playbook for the modern day GOP.

#103 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-07-28 05:07 PM | Reply

Your examples are stupid. Really, really stupid. Like I said, when you play the Nazi card you've already lost.
Go stick your thumb up your ass.

#94 | Posted by BellRinger

How come there aren't people wearing nazi insignias at democrat or BLM rallies but there are tons of them at trump rallies and at the 1/6 coup attempt?

#104 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-28 07:40 PM | Reply

#104 You're talking to a guy who says a Confederate flag in 2022 isn't racist.

So he's not gonna see racism like you see it.

He thinks of AL Sharpton when he thinks of a notorious racist.

Or, if he ate his Wheaties that morning, maybe Robert Byrd.

#105 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-28 07:48 PM | Reply

I think of Stepan Bandera. I think of the whole murdering bunch in Charlottesville.

American or European, they all suck.

#106 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-07-28 11:13 PM | Reply

The GQP has become a Christofascist (Margie Traitor Greene's Christian Nationalist) White Pride party. They celebrate the domestic terrorism caused by their brown shirts, the Proud Boofs, the 3% morons, etc, so of course, DeathSentence would not speak ill of an essential part of his base. If you believe the polling, DeathSentence faces an uphill climb just to get re-elected as governor. If he loses in November, his dreams of being POTUS will be dashed because it pierces the veil of inevitability. I just saw a poll that fully 25% of GQP voters think we should get rid of Loving v. Virginia, making mixed-race marriage illegal again. You hear that, Uncle Clarence? So fully 25% of Republican voters are THAT racist. I suspect those same Republican voters would fully and enthusiastically support abortion for their daughter if she was impregnated by her AA boyfriend.

#107 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2022-07-29 12:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lieslinger,

"I just saw a poll that fully 25% of GQP voters think we should get rid of Loving v. Virginia, making mixed-race marriage illegal again."

That is hard to believe.

I looked for your poll and can't find it.

Post a link.

#108 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-29 12:45 PM | Reply

That is hard to believe.

#108 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Whatever this particular poll says, it is not hard to believe at all.

#109 | Posted by Zed at 2022-07-29 12:50 PM | Reply

I looked for your poll and can't find it.
Post a link.
#108 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

BILLJOHNSON, you're about as useless as a screen door on a submarine:

www.google.com

Numerous links in the google search above.

Are you a liar or just completely inept?

#110 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-07-29 12:52 PM | Reply

Zed,

It would depend on the wording of the question and the context who is being polled.

I've seen some really lame polls.

#111 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-29 12:53 PM | Reply

"That is hard to believe."

The only thing hard to believe is that it's only 25% of them.

I'd wager at least 50% of DR Republicans think Loving was poorly adjudicated and should be left to the States, which is coincidentally what they think about Obergefell and Roe.

#112 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-29 12:53 PM | Reply

I've seen some really lame polls.
#111 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

What you find lame about them is that they go against what you want to hear.

JFC

Inept indeed.

#113 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-07-29 12:53 PM | Reply

That was far cry from wanting it be illegal.

#114 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-29 12:55 PM | Reply

I'd wager at least 50% of DR Republicans think Loving was poorly adjudicated and should be left to the States, which is coincidentally what they think about Obergefell and Roe.

Ruth knew Roe was poorly adjudicated. So did a lot of other legal folks with Communist leanings.

She sent me to tell you that.

#115 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-07-29 12:56 PM | Reply

"That was far cry from wanting it be illegal."

No it ain't.

The effect of repealing Roe is to make abortion illegal in about half the country.

The only reason anyone would want to repeal Roe is to make abortion illegal.

#116 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-29 01:00 PM | Reply

I've seen some really lame polls.
#111 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I've seen some really lame Americans.

And ... Oh look. There goes one now!

#117 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-07-29 01:01 PM | Reply

The only reason anyone would want to repeal Roe is to make abortion illegal.

Not "illegal", Snoofy. We just want some common sense legislation.

I mean, abortion is the #1 killer of black babies. We need to do something.

Because that's not what an Equitable Society is supposed to look like.

#118 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-07-29 01:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I mean, abortion is the #1 killer of black babies. We need to do something.

Because that's not what an Equitable Society is supposed to look like.

#118 | Posted by Mao_Content

Maybe thats because your party makes life so miserable for black people that they cant afford to have a baby.

If you cared about their community you'd be trying to make sure they have better schools. You don't. You care about enforcing your religion on everyone else. Like ISIS but white.

#119 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-29 01:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I mean, abortion is the #1 killer of black babies. We need to do something."

Quiet, you'll make the police jealous!

#120 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-29 03:35 PM | Reply

Speak,

Come on.

The last few decades blacks have been provided the same educational opportunities as everyone else.

Quotas etc.

Maybe the black culture needs to evolve themselves. Get better role models.

#121 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-29 03:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Speak,

Public schools are going down the dumper.

I don't blame just the parents or the teachers.

Too many kids just don't want to learn.

#122 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-29 03:47 PM | Reply

Speak,

Public schools are going down the dumper.

I don't blame just the parents or the teachers.

Too many kids just don't want to learn.

#122 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yeah public school are getting worse. And they were already bad in minority districts. If you're going to tell me that mostly white schools dont have better teachers and resources than mostly black schools then youre a moron.

Maybe you should start voting for the party that wants schools to be better instead of the party that knows they get more votes when voters are dumber.

#123 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-29 04:51 PM | Reply

The last few decades blacks have been provided the same educational opportunities as everyone else.
#121 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You're high.

#124 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-07-29 05:11 PM | Reply

BillJohnson is a know nothing moron who believes his opinions are facts.

#125 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-07-29 05:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" ... who believes his fantasies are facts.

FTFY

#126 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-07-29 05:24 PM | Reply

Maybe the black culture needs to evolve themselves. Get better role models.
#121 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Now that's fnkcin' racist.

You *BLOCKED* now (i.e., kill file).

Swallow it.

#127 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-07-29 06:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Speak,

What kids are REALLY being taught is excuses for failing.

You sound like you've been well indoctrinated.

#128 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-29 07:18 PM | Reply

>Public schools are going down the dumper.

Anecdotal - but the public school district where I live is much better than it was 20 - 30 years ago.

Righties want the failure of anything in the public sphere.

#129 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2022-07-29 08:17 PM | Reply

Sch,

"Righties want the failure of anything in the public sphere."

Sure...kids in public schools are performing poorly because "righties" want them to.

#130 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-07-29 09:23 PM | Reply

We need to do something.

How about leave the decision to the one who is pregnant? We should stop black women from terminating a pregnancy
because we need more black babies? Seriously?

#131 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2022-07-29 10:20 PM | Reply

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