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Sunday, July 31, 2022

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#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-07-31 02:41 PM | Reply

Let's be real. 9/11 WAS a conspiracy. Of SAUDIs. Possibly working with some americans.

So why did jarrod kushner get a billion dollar injection of saudi money right after leaving office?

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-07-31 04:53 PM | Reply

"Let's be real. 9/11 WAS a conspiracy. Of SAUDIs

Exactly. That's why abcnews.go.com">five dancing Saudis were seen dancing on top of a moving van during the attack...

#3 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2022-07-31 08:14 PM | Reply

So why did jarrod kushner get a billion dollar injection of saudi money right after leaving office?
#2 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Because he's a financial badass, while you're driving a battery car you hate because Musk derangement syndrome.

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-07-31 08:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#4 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Lol
Fist bump!

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-07-31 08:31 PM | Reply

The evidence that (Saudi) Bin Laden masterminded the attack and was living in Afganistan was so strong Russian backed the invasion.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2022-07-31 08:38 PM | Reply

Because he's a financial badass, while you're driving a battery car you hate because Musk derangement syndrome.

#4 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Sluuurrrppp! Thank you, may I have another?

Toolbag.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2022-08-01 08:39 AM | Reply

Remember when Sheeple pretended to be a Bernie Sanders progressive and that Oneironaut still does? Good times!

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-08-01 08:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Because he's a financial badass, while you're driving a battery car you hate because Musk derangement syndrome.

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism

He's a financial failure who's family was ------ til he got into power and used the government to get out of trouble and get rich by taking money from the country that plotted 9/11.

I'm driving a superior car to you because I'm a superior person. YOu're driving a piece of ---- because you failed at life, which makes you want to elect republicans to make everyone else suffer like you do.

#9 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 12:02 PM | Reply

This guy is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist? If he ran as a Dem he'd sweep the primary.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 01:24 PM | Reply

EV's are getting better all of the time but they are still mostly niche vehicles. I'm watching the big auto makers making a huge transition that I believe will backfire in a huge way. I remember when SUV's gained rapid popularity back in the late 90's and early 2000's. The big 3 let their mid size family sedans languish while the Accord and Camry steamed forward in development. Then the market shifted and vehicles like the Taurus were pathetic by comparison. Battery technology isn't revolutionary. It has at least as many weaknesses as strengths when compared against an internal combustion engine.

#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 01:29 PM | Reply

#11. Wrong thread. My apologies.

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 01:31 PM | Reply

This guy is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist? If he ran as a Dem he'd sweep the primary.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger

What dem leaders are 9/11 conspiracy theorists?

Unless you mean the fact that saudi arabia plotted 9/11, which we know know is true.

How come trump hid that info instead of releasing it like biden did?

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 01:42 PM | Reply

#13. 9/11 happened over 20 years ago. Today it's simply a trivial event compared to 1/6.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 01:56 PM | Reply

9/11 is no longer a part of an ongoing coup attempt. The 1/6 coup attempt isn't over. Some might say it's just getting started.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 01:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#13. 9/11 happened over 20 years ago. Today it's simply a trivial event compared to 1/6.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

True, 1/6 is a much greater threat to our country because terrorists can't take down america but your fascist cult sure can.

But why didn't trump release the evidence that the saudis did 9/11 after he promised to? How come biden had to fulfill that promise for him?

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 01:58 PM | Reply

Fascist coup!

You clowns cheer that ---- when BLM and Antifa rioters are trying to set a federal court building on fire. Or when president Trump had to be rushed away by SS - y'all got a big laugh over that. Harassing SCOTUS justices - good, so long as they don't adjudicate the way leftists demand. Attempt to assassinate a justice? Sweep it under the rug. 2000 "Selected not elected!!!" Righteous. In 2020 that talk is seditious. 2004 "Diebold!!!" Righteous. In 2020 that talk is seditious. Hillary abd Abraham's repeatedly claim their elections were stolen - it's all good. Any questioning at all of the 2020 is met with screams that it was the safest, fairest and most accurate in mankind's history of elections.

You people are ------- clowns.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 02:07 PM | Reply

"BLM and Antifa rioters are trying to set a federal court building on fire"

Not a coup attempt.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 02:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Trump had to be rushed away by SS"

Not over a coup attempt. Unless you mean on Jan 6. Then yes, over his direct orders, he was rushed away, not towards, the coup attempt.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

BLM and Antifa rioters

No such thing.

Funny how conservatives have to create imaginary scenarios in order to justify the fact they are domestic terrorists.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-01 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Harassing SCOTUS justices"

Not a coup attempt. Probably not even illegal.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Attempt to assassinate a justice"

Not a coup attempt, and there was no attempt.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump had to be rushed away by SS

Bunker ---- got scared because there were protesters in the streets.

Not because they were trying to break into the White House.

You've got nothing but false equivalencies.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-01 02:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Attempt to assassinate a justice

You still haven't learned what the word "attempt" means.

1/6 was an attempted coup.

Guy turning himself in before attempting to assassinate Boofer, isn't.

You're pathetically stupid.

No wonder you're a conservative.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-01 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Y'all are unwittingly proving my point.

Hilarious.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 02:19 PM | Reply

my point.

That you're fkkking re tar did?

Rinse, repeat. Everyday.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-01 02:20 PM | Reply

"Y'all are unwittingly proving my point."

What in the world do you mean?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 02:21 PM | Reply

"Any questioning at all of the 2020 is met with screams that it was the safest, fairest and most accurate in mankind's history of elections."

Your predictable hyperbole aside,
Did you have any specific concerns about the 2020 election, or reason to think the outcome was not properly decided?
If not, then what's your point?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 02:23 PM | Reply

" Did you have any specific concerns about the 2016 election (or Abraham's loss or 200 or 2004) or reason to think the outcome was not properly decided?

Back at you.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 02:30 PM | Reply

Attempted assassinations?
I must have missed that cartoon?

And there is nothing in the constitution that says Americans can't give a scj a piece of their mind in public

Stop being such a puss

#30 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2022-08-01 02:36 PM | Reply

Any questioning at all of the 2020 is met with screams that it was the safest, fairest and most accurate in mankind's history of elections.

Actually. Thanks to the efforts of Republicans, we discovered dozens of Republicans who are guilty of election fraud.

Not enough to actually affect the election results.

But election fraud nonetheless.

Conservatives are morons.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-01 02:36 PM | Reply

Did you have any specific concerns about the 2016 election

Are you comparing the Russian collusion to the Big Lie?

So you've decided to embrace the fact you're a Trumping moron.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-01 02:41 PM | Reply

#30. It's a felony you creepy moron.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 02:42 PM | Reply

#32. I'm asking a straightforward question.

#34 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 02:42 PM | Reply

The GOP has convinced its base, and a quote, they are in a "fight to the death" - - and all jeffyjbell can do is pretend "liberals" are the one ratcheting up the rhetoric

How intellectual dishonest can one person really be

#35 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2022-08-01 02:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's a felony to say someone's an ------- to their face?

I don't think so

#36 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2022-08-01 02:45 PM | Reply

#35. You just made my point, unwittingly of course. That kind of rhetoric is as old as politics but the left feels they have an exclusive contract to employ it.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 02:45 PM | Reply

Fascist coup!

You clowns cheer that ---- when BLM and Antifa rioters are trying to set a federal court building on fire.

You people are ------- clowns.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger

The clowns are the ones who pretend BLM marches against government executing citizens without trials is the same thing as your cult trying to overthrow the government because your fascist cult leader lost an election.

The rest of your life you're going to be the party that attempted a fascist coup. So for the rest of your life youre going to be despeately and hilariously pointing to every thing anyone else does and saying it's worse than your fascist coup attempt.

#38 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 02:50 PM | Reply

"What dem leaders are 9/11 conspiracy theorists?"

Are there any in the Senate at all?

#39 | Posted by Tor at 2022-08-01 02:50 PM | Reply

And there is nothing in the constitution that says Americans can't give a scj a piece of their mind in public
#30 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

#30. It's a felony you creepy moron.
#33 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

LOL!
No it's not.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 02:59 PM | Reply

The child-raping orange jizzfart says "nobody's gotten to the bottom of 9/11 yet."

www.newsweek.com

#41 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 03:04 PM | Reply

"Attempt to assassinate a justice"

Sorry pal, but if you can't say that 1/6 was "an attempted assassination on Mike Pence", you don't get to claim anything about Kavanaugh.

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 03:07 PM | Reply

The child-raping orange jizzfart says "nobody's gotten to the bottom of 9/11 yet."

www.newsweek.com

#41 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Right. Just like we dont know why the mob attacked the capitol on 1/6.

It's truly a mystery that will never be solved.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 03:08 PM | Reply

" Sorry pal, but if you can't say that 1/6 was "an attempted assassination on Mike Pence", you don't get to claim anything about Kavanaugh"

Sorry pal, it if you can't say that Roske "was an attempted assassination on Brett Kavanaugh", you don't get to claim anything about Pence and 1/6.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:17 PM | Reply

Roske "was an attempted assassination on Brett Kavanaugh"

Who stopped the attempt?

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 03:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Flint Water Jeff's fellow MAGAts left a pile of dead cops on 1-6.

#46 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 03:22 PM | Reply

Sorry pal, it if you can't say that Roske "was an attempted assassination on Brett Kavanaugh", you don't get to claim anything about Pence and 1/6.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger

Sorry Pal, that was a crazy guy who turned himself in before he did anything.
Not a political movement inspired to overthrow democracy by the leaders of their fascist party.

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 03:24 PM | Reply

He backed away when he saw two federal Marshall's at the house.

But yeah. You make a great point. After the media doxxed Kavanaugh this guy plotted. He flew in from California. Purchased a pistol with extra ammo, knife, burglary equipment and physical restraint items.

This wasn't spur of the moment. It was planned. Thankfully he was deferred by two guys with guns.

Unlike Trump I'm "sure" Schumer's rhetoric and the Biden admin's tacit approval of harassment of these judges played no role.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:27 PM | Reply

"Biden admin's tacit approval of harassment of these judges"

Since you clearly think it played a role, did Biden administration commit a crime?

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 03:30 PM | Reply

" He backed away when he saw two federal Marshall's at the house."

So if not for the cops in-between, there might've been an assassination.

In both cases.

#50 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 03:32 PM | Reply

" Sorry pal, it if you can't say that Roske "was an attempted assassination on Brett Kavanaugh" ...

WTF?!? I can and I have. Why are you pretending otherwise?

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 03:33 PM | Reply

"Biden admin's tacit approval of harassment of these judges"

Is it against the law to protest at the home of a member of SCOTUS because of prior decisions?

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 03:36 PM | Reply

Unlike Trump I'm "sure" Schumer's rhetoric and the Biden admin's tacit approval of harassment of these judges played no role.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger

Yeah unlike trump, schumer and biden didn't spend months trying to figure out how to inspire lunatics to execute their political agenda and help them overthrow democracy.

Hey Bellringer. I just saw a democrat sneeze on the sidewalk. That's just the same thing as your fascist coup too right? I mean how can democrats complain about you morons attempting to end demoracy while they're going around sneezing everywhere? That's just as bad isn't it?

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 03:37 PM | Reply

#51 My apologies. I never witnessed it from you.

I unequivocally condemn any assassination talk or actions toward Pence or any other politician in this country.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:38 PM | Reply

Do tell how many women have to die in agony before society is justified in utilizing their God given right to free speech whenever they see one of the SCJ's that damned women to this fate?

#55 | Posted by Tor at 2022-08-01 03:38 PM | Reply

" Yeah unlike trump, schumer and biden didn't spend months trying to figure out how to inspire lunatics to execute their political agenda and help them overthrow democracy."

Take Schumer and team Biden's comments and reverse rolls and you'd be urinating in your paths over incitement.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:40 PM | Reply

"I unequivocally condemn any assassination talk or actions toward Pence or any other politician in this country."

Is Brett Kavanaugh a politician?

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 03:41 PM | Reply

" Is it against the law to protest at the home of a member of SCOTUS because of prior decisions?

#52 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2022-08-01 03:36 PM | FLAG: "

The protests occurred before the decision was solidified.

#58 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:42 PM | Reply

Again no.
The decision was already made.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 03:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#57. Do you support a right wing lunatic version of Roske showing up on Kagan's doorsteps?

#60 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:44 PM | Reply

#59. No. The decision was leaked before it was finalized. All 9 justices had the opportunity to change their vote if "properly motivated". That is likely why it was leaked.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He backed away when he saw two federal Marshall's at the house.

Where as the rabid Trumpers attacked the police, scaled the walls, jumped over barricades, and were walking around the Capitol building, there's footage of at least 1 Trumper with zip tie handcuffs.

You're misusing the word attempt, it makes you seem more ignorant.

#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-01 03:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"#57. Do you support a right wing lunatic version of Roske showing up on Kagan's doorsteps?"

The Second Amendment empowers anyone to do just that.
Do you support the Second Amendment?

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 03:47 PM | Reply

Jeffj is a piece of ----.

#64 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 03:48 PM | Reply

"The decision was leaked before it was finalized."

There are differences between the leaked opinion and the official one?
???

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 03:48 PM | Reply

The at home protests are technically a felony under US law. With this DOJ I am expecting nothing other than tacit approval.

#66 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:49 PM | Reply

Flint Water Jeff was giddy after Dr. Slepian was murdered in front of his wife and kids.

#67 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 03:49 PM | Reply

"The at home protests are technically a felony under US law."

I don't think so. The protests can't influence a decision because the decision has already been made.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 03:50 PM | Reply

#65. Now you are being stupid. And you are playing ignorant with federal law protecting judges from mob rule so they can try to administer Justice according to our laws and the Constitution.

#69 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:52 PM | Reply

The Dobbs decision was likely leaked by a conservative justice (probably Thomas) to assure Roberts didn't get Kavanaugh to change his vote

#70 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 03:53 PM | Reply

#62. That ---- was bad yet still paled in comparison with a dozen or so of the summer 2020 riots.

#71 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Ballwasher was thrilled when the Indiana Doctor was threatened with a criminal investigation for doing her job.

#72 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 03:55 PM | Reply

# 70. I'm bothered by the fact that the leaker's identity probably won't ever be known. It's an ethical breach of the court

#73 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#62. That ---- was bad yet still paled in comparison with a dozen or so of the summer 2020 riots.

#71 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

--------. Any criminal activity during the BLM riots (mostly by rightwing agitators or instigated by the police) were criminal activities and should be addressed as such.

The 1/6 insurrection is a matter of national security, i.e. vastly more important.

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 03:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"still paled in comparison with a dozen or so of the summer 2020 riots."

Wow.

#75 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-08-01 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Now you are being stupid."

I've noticed that every time I ask a question you don't want to answer, you say it's stupid.

I'll ask again, because I don't know:

Are there any differences between the leaked opinion and the published opinion?

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 03:57 PM | Reply

# 70. I'm bothered by the fact that the leaker's identity probably won't ever be known. It's an ethical breach of the court

#73 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

It is an infinitesimally small issue in this day and age.

#77 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 03:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It's an ethical breach of the court"

The Supreme Court does not have ethics standards for Supreme Court Justices.

So, it probably isn't what you claim.

Who told you it's an ethical breach, and why did you believe them?

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 03:59 PM | Reply

So why did jarrod kushner get a billion dollar injection of saudi money right after leaving office?

#2 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

He hacked Hunter's laptop

#79 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-08-01 03:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" Ballwasher was thrilled when the Indiana Doctor was threatened with a criminal investigation for doing her job.

#72 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2022-08-01 03:55 PM | FLAG: "

Not at all. Given all of the information currently available her actions appear to be within bounds. Barring any new information I oppose condemnation of her actions.

#80 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 03:59 PM | Reply

Who told you it's an ethical breach, and why did you believe them?

#78 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Oooh oooh I know, I know!

Rightwing whackos and to deflect from the barbaric dobbs decision itself!!!

#81 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 04:01 PM | Reply

" It is an infinitesimally small issue in this day and age.

#77 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2022-08-01 03:58 PM | FLAG: "

No it isn't. It's massive. I am not aware of any other leaks of this nature in the past few decades. The intent of the leak was only plausible as an intimidation means of changing or solidifying votes on the court.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 04:04 PM | Reply

LOL.

The irony of championing the SC's right to privacy-over the Dobbs decision.

#83 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 04:07 PM | Reply

Of course, since it was highly likely to have been a conservative justice it's just another example of republican scumbaggery

#84 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 04:08 PM | Reply

#51 My apologies. I never witnessed it from you.

I unequivocally condemn any assassination talk or actions toward Pence or any other politician in this country.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger

Yeah you condemn is so unequivocally that you'll go ahead and keep voting for the big lie cult that created and inspired that mob.

#85 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 04:33 PM | Reply

" Yeah unlike trump, schumer and biden didn't spend months trying to figure out how to inspire lunatics to execute their political agenda and help them overthrow democracy."

Take Schumer and team Biden's comments and reverse rolls and you'd be urinating in your paths over incitement.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger

Liar. How come you're more upset about a random lunatic NOT attacking a judge than you are about a your cult's leaders telling so many lies that your cult attempted to overthrow democracy?

#86 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 04:35 PM | Reply

#59. No. The decision was leaked before it was finalized. All 9 justices had the opportunity to change their vote if "properly motivated". That is likely why it was leaked.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger

Or it was leaked to freeze the judges in their current position. Or to test what the public reaction would be to see if they could go ahead and overturn it. See we can all play the "lets assume your side did it for political benefit" game.

#87 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 04:37 PM | Reply

70. I'm bothered by the fact that the leaker's identity probably won't ever be known.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

It was Ginni Thomas, who is being protected by her husband.

#88 | Posted by Zed at 2022-08-01 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#62. That ---- was bad yet still paled in comparison with a dozen or so of the summer 2020 riots.

#71 | Posted by BellRinger

Sure fascist. Looting a target is worse than trying to end american democracy.

#89 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 04:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No it isn't. It's massive. I am not aware of any other leaks of this nature in the past few decades. The intent of the leak was only plausible as an intimidation means of changing or solidifying votes on the court.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger

The think YOU IMAGINE is the ONLY PLAUSIBLE thing. That's how your stupid brain works.

#90 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 04:40 PM | Reply

It was Ginni Thomas, who is being protected by her husband.

#88 | POSTED BY ZED

If there is a Deep State, this is it.

#91 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-08-01 04:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"The intent of the leak was only plausible as an intimidation means of changing or solidifying votes on the court."

Unless it was done in front of their homes, that isn't illegal.

#92 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 04:48 PM | Reply

"That ---- was bad yet still paled in comparison with a dozen or so of the summer 2020 riots."

Twelve, huh? Out of over 10,000 protests. Be sure you pick enough cherries for everyone.

Meanwhile, by your barometer (violent or nonviolent), 1/6 was 100% violent.

#93 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 04:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"It was Ginni Thomas"

Probably why the investigation has, um ... stalled.

#94 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 04:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The protests occurred before the decision was solidified."

Not necessarily true.
"I was protesting the Texas decision, your honor!"

(And frankly, why not? Refusing to strike down the Texas bounty law was abortion's Ft. Sumpter.)

#95 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 04:58 PM | Reply

"The protests occurred before the decision was solidified."

Not for Snoofy. He still has his Magic 8-Ball.

#96 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-08-01 05:08 PM | Reply

If there's no differences between the leaked opinion and the official opinion, then the decision was already as final as it gets.

I'm not sure why you can't accept that. Probably just because it's me saying it.

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 05:42 PM | Reply

Welcome to the Drudge Retort!

It has been
0
Days

Since JeffJ compared the Jan 6 Insurrection to 2020 Civil Rights protests.

#98 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 05:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Danforth is in the " fiery but mostly peaceful" camp.

He laughs about the 2020 violence. Those black business owners who had their livelihoods burned down? They got what they deserved because civil rights'. People like David Dorn who were murdered? They should have stayed home. Dorn's murdered was just convicted. Danforth is probably lobbying for a pardon as I'm typing this.

#99 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 07:20 PM | Reply

POSTED BY BELLRINGER

How many hours a day do you set aside for trolling on the DR?

18?

#100 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-01 07:28 PM | Reply

" Danforth is in the " fery but mostly peaceful" camp. He laughs about the 2020 violence."

Bellringer is a lying sack of ----. I have, since day one, been in favor of prosecuting all 2020 lawbreakers to the fullest extent of the law.

Meanwhile, Belle has to grasp his pearls and compare 1/6 with ALL the (violent only) protests.

And "fiery but mostly peaceful"? Well, yeah ... Actual math. 2020 BLM protests were 93% peaceful, vs 100% violent on 1/6.

#101 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 07:42 PM | Reply

You say that yet you equivocate any time the 2020 riots are brought up. You really lose your ---- when numbers are compared - homicides, police injuries, property damage, livelihoods lost, etc.

" Hands up don't shoot!" Right?

#102 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 08:24 PM | Reply

You say that yet you equivocate any time the 2020 riots are brought up. You really lose your ---- when numbers are compared - homicides, police injuries, property damage, livelihoods lost, etc.

" Hands up don't shoot!" Right?

#102 | Posted by BellRinger

You bring up BLM marches every time your fascist coup attempt is brought up. Because what else can you do? Pretend it didn't happen? You're going to spend the rest of your life arguing that people looting a target superstore is the same as people trying to overthrow democracy.

#103 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-01 09:20 PM | Reply

#103 1/6 was a protest that morphed into a riot. I oppose ALL riots and want to see what we are seeing - those who committed crimes being held accountable in a court of law.

In totality, the BLM riots were exponentially worse by every possible metric yet they are explained away, downplayed, defended, and a gofundme bail fund was created and promoted by several members of the Biden team including Kamala Harris.

#104 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 09:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

In totality, the BLM riots were exponentially worse by every possible metric

Those 5 dead cops you ---- on daily prove otherwise.

#105 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 09:52 PM | Reply

"#103 1/6 was a protest that morphed into a riot."

Which part was planned months ahead?

#106 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 09:53 PM | Reply

#105 No cops were killed as a result of that riot you lying piece of ----.

#107 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 09:55 PM | Reply

You losers are responsible for 5 dead cops. Own it.

#108 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 09:57 PM | Reply

A few of the suicides were attributed to a change in mood brought on by the failed insurrection.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 09:57 PM | Reply

#105 No cops were killed as a result of that riot you lying piece of ----.

#107 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I find this to be the most reprehensible belief of your wholly reprehensible existence on the DR.

You, lying piece of ----, are a turd human being.

#110 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 09:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"In totality, the BLM riots were exponentially worse by every possible metric"

JeffJ is pathologically incapable of discussing the Jan 6 insurrection without talking about the Civil Rights Riots of 2020.

One has to wonder if 60 years ago he would have compared Bay of Pigs to the Civil Rights riots of that era.

#111 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 09:59 PM | Reply

it's a high suicide profession.

Over the course of the summer of 2020 Portland cops dealt with far worse.

#112 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 09:59 PM | Reply

"it's a high suicide profession."

Moreso after 1/6.

#113 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:00 PM | Reply

www.newsweek.com

Swallow it, you MAGA pissant.

#114 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 10:00 PM | Reply

#111 Snoofy is completely down with all of the actions of the "civil rights riots of 2020". David Dorn is a piece of garbage in Snoofy's eyes. Arson, assault and looting are all good so long as Snoofy likes the so-called "cause".

Your viewpoints are despicable. Even the barista at your local Starbuck's would be disgusted by your views.

#115 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:01 PM | Reply

#110 What I said was accurate you lying piece of ----.

#116 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:02 PM | Reply

"Over the course of the summer of 2020 Portland cops dealt with far worse."

I don't believe you.

Which day in Portland featured as many police and insurgents? Which day had the police and insurgents fighting as long as Jan 6?

#117 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:02 PM | Reply

"David Dorn is a piece of garbage in Snoofy's eyes."

I don't even know who David Dorn is.

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:02 PM | Reply

Over the course of the summer of 2020 Portland cops dealt with far worse.

#112 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Yet none killed themselves. You despicable vile disgusting piece of ----.

#119 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Flint Water Jeff has a shrine dedicated to fellow Michigan deplorable Terry Nichols.

#120 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 10:03 PM | Reply

I don't even know who David Dorn is.

Guy who violated the curfew and got killed.

#121 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-08-01 10:05 PM | Reply

Doucehhurts,

Unlike you, I don't excuse the 1/6 violence. I also deal in reality and those who engaged in those riots didn't kill anyone. They are being found guilty of their crimes in court and I applaud that - justice is being served. Yet, you surely excuse the 2020 violence.

Lemme guess - Stephen Canon is a hero to you, worthy of being pardoned by Biden and anointed as a left-wing icon.

#122 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:05 PM | Reply

#110 What I said was accurate you lying piece of ----.

#116 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Howard Liebengood
Liebengood was among the four police officers who died by suicide following the insurrection.

The 51-year-old took his own life three days after the riot. An official cause of death was not announced but according to his widow, the officer was sleep-deprived in the days following the riots. He took his own life at home after a work shift. A family attorney also confirmed the death was by suicide.

#123 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:05 PM | Reply

Doucehhurts,
Unlike you, I don't excuse the 1/6 violence. I also deal in reality and those who engaged in those riots didn't kill anyone. They are being found guilty of their crimes in court and I applaud that - justice is being served. Yet, you surely excuse the 2020 violence.
Lemme guess - Stephen Canon is a hero to you, worthy of being pardoned by Biden and anointed as a left-wing icon.

#122 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You sack of ----, you are excusing the 1/6 violence denying the suicides caused by 1/6. I sincerely hope your children disown you pathetic excuse for a human being.

#124 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:07 PM | Reply

Here is a side-by-side comparison of the 2020 riots and the 1/6 riot:

www.realclearinvestigations.com

#125 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:08 PM | Reply

#121 I mean, if anyone knew the risks, it was David Dorn, right?

He died doing what he loved. His murderer was found guilty. Turn the page.

#126 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:10 PM | Reply

PTSD is a real thing among law enforcement.

#127 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:10 PM | Reply

You righty filth are also responsible for this.

www.cbsnews.com

#128 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 10:11 PM | Reply

Real Clear Investigations

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These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appealing to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. See all Right-Center sources.

Overall, we rate RealClearInvestigations Right-Center Biased based on story selection that moderately favors the Right. We also rate them Mostly Factual rather than High due to utilizing sources that have Mixed records with facts.

#129 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:11 PM | Reply

You are so ------- stupid

From your link:

Government Classification
1/6 Domestic Terrorism
BLM Protest Riots
2017 Inauguration Riot

#130 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:11 PM | Reply

"Guy who violated the curfew and got killed.

#121 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2022-08-01 10:05 PM | REPLY |"

So, his murder was totally justified?

#131 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:11 PM | Reply

"PTSD is a real thing among law enforcement."

Moreso for Capitol Police after Jan 6.

#132 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:11 PM | Reply

Riot-Criminal
Domestic Terrorism-National Security threat

jeffj, the lying piece of ----, doesn't even understand how stupid he is

#133 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:12 PM | Reply

"I also deal in reality and those who engaged in those riots didn't kill anyone."

Thanks to the Capitol Poilce and the Secret Service.

Hmm. Maybe those police are simply better at being police than your average American City With Bad Race Relations Metropolitan Police Department.

#134 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:13 PM | Reply

#129 So, they produce factual information and frame it from a right of center standpoint? OK. That is far more balanced than anything we see from NY Times, WaPo, the Big 3 networks, CNN, MSNBC, Politifact, Snopes, LA Times, NPR, CNBC, The Daily Beast, Huffington Post, any late night "comedy" host not named Gutfield....

#135 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:15 PM | Reply

Another thing JeffJ will never acknowledge:
The Civil Rights protesters of 2020 have some legitimate grievances.
The Jan 6 insurrectionists literally have no legitimate grievance at all.

#136 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Howard Liebengood
Liebengood was among the four police officers who died by suicide following the insurrection.
The 51-year-old took his own life three days after the riot. An official cause of death was not announced but according to his widow, the officer was sleep-deprived in the days following the riots. He took his own life at home after a work shift. A family attorney also confirmed the death was by suicide.

Jeffj believes this death had nothing to do with 1/6

Jeffj is a lying piece of ----

Jeffj is a despicable human being

#137 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:15 PM | Reply

So, his murder was totally justified?
#131 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No, it's merely brought on by his own stupidity.
See: Ashli Babbitt.

#138 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:16 PM | Reply

#129 So, they produce factual information and frame it from a right of center standpoint? OK. That is far more balanced than anything we see from NY Times, WaPo, the Big 3 networks, CNN, MSNBC, Politifact, Snopes, LA Times, NPR, CNBC, The Daily Beast, Huffington Post, any late night "comedy" host not named Gutfield....

#135 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Does jeffj understand the difference between a riot and domestic terrorism?

I bet no

#139 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:16 PM | Reply

#133 You -------- label parents who speak up at school board meetings as domestic terrorists while defending actual domestic terrorists who set buildings on fire, kill people and seize control of several blocks of a city (talk about insurrection).

You are a -------, Douchehurts, Truly a vile human being.

#140 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:17 PM | Reply

No, it's merely brought on by his own stupidity.
See: Ashli Babbitt.

#138 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Imagine dying for -------! Now that is some funny ----

#141 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:17 PM | Reply

#133 You -------- label parents who speak up at school board meetings as domestic terrorists while defending actual domestic terrorists who set buildings on fire, kill people and seize control of several blocks of a city (talk about insurrection).
You are a -------, Douchehurts, Truly a vile human being.

#140 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

See, I told you jeffj doesn't know the difference.

What a maroon you are, you lying piece of ----.

#142 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:18 PM | Reply

Snoofy, is now blaming the victim - David Dorn - for being murdered. I'm sure Truthy will high-five him. Obviously, Dorn got what he deserved - an uppity black man trying to defend a friend's business from righteous Civil Rights Activists who have a God-given right to loot whatever they want and a God-given right to kill anyone who gets in their way.

#143 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:19 PM | Reply

#130 Great point.

JeffJ will NEVER, EVER concede that Jan 6 was an act of domestic terror.

#144 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:20 PM | Reply

"In totality, the BLM riots were exponentially worse by every possible metric"

Not in this reality.

Defenders of the president in Congress and in conservative media have suggested that what occurred at the Capitol was nothing worse, really, than the protests that occurred last summer after a Black man, George Floyd, died after a police officer in Minneapolis put his knee on Floyd's neck for an extended time.

It's a false comparison and, often, a willfully dishonest one.

The intent of the Jan. 6 protest was far more nefarious. Last summer's unrest was a revisitation of a years-long focus on the relationship between Black Americans and the police. The protests were meant to draw attention to what protesters describe as systemic injustices within law enforcement, injustices which make it more likely that Black people detained by police will be shot or injured.

The goal last week was to object to the democratic transition of power in the United States.

Those two aims are not comparable. Nor were the effects of the violence. Rioters in Minneapolis burned down a police precinct; others in other cities looted and burned buildings. All of those acts were criminal and damaging. None of them broadly threatened the existence of law enforcement or commerce.

The events in Washington, by contrast, constituted a "violent insurrection that attempted to overthrow the United States Government," according to federal prosecutors. On the scale of changes that could result, the dismantling of a city's police department is objectively less significant than the overthrow of the U.S. government. More importantly, the violence itself wasn't simply meant to send a message to legislators, the violence was meant to effect the desired change. The violence was the means to that end.

www.washingtonpost.com

The fact that any reasonable person equates largely peaceful and symbolic protests attended by 15-26 million Americans over the treatment of black suspects at the hands of law enforcement - from within which vandals and anarchists committed various crimes that each should be held accountable for - with a one time, preplanned and scheduled, violent attempt to overthrow our government shows a complete lack of perspective and objectivity. The tens of thousands of protests do not equate to one attempted coup which consisted of using violence to overwhelm undermanned police while trying to capture or potentially kill elected government officials for simply doing their jobs.

#145 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 10:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#133 You -------- label parents who speak up at school board meetings as domestic terrorists"

Deflectors to maximum!

#146 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:20 PM | Reply

133 You -------- label parents who speak up at school board meetings as domestic terrorists

Just wanted to point out you are lying here. no surprise. Or perhaps you could link to your assertions.

I do remember that the DoJ investigated people who sent death threats to BoE members. You know-terrorism

Of course, jeffj is a lying piece of ----

#147 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Snoofy, is now blaming the victim - David Dorn - for being murdered."

He brought a gun to a gun fight.

If you did that, and you died, who would you blame?

#148 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:21 PM | Reply

#142 You are the one who is saying a moron in a Viking outfit raging through the capitol is far worse than some left-wing thug setting a building on fire and killing someone.

Your 'morality' is as effed as your politics.

#149 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:21 PM | Reply

"Obviously, Dorn got what he deserved"

Deserved? That's pushing it.

He got what he should have easily predicted he was gonna get.

#150 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:21 PM | Reply

"a moron in a Viking outfit raging through the capitol"
Jake Angeli, known as 'QAnon shaman,' sentenced to 41 months for his role in Jan. 6 Capitol raid

Now who is JeffJ referring to with "some left-wing thug setting a building on fire and killing someone"
And what sentence did they get?

#151 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#145 Washington Post is engaging in its usual left-wing propaganda. We are being asked to ignore ALL of the actual numbers (homicides, assaults, arson, looting, property damage, etc) and distill it down to one protest was more righteous than the other, therefore we must throw objectivity out of the window.

"Hands up, don't shoot!"

#152 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:24 PM | Reply

#142 You are the one who is saying a moron in a Viking outfit raging through the capitol is far worse than some left-wing thug setting a building on fire and killing someone.
Your 'morality' is as effed as your politics.

#149 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I'm saying an attempt to overthrow democracy and cause a mass casualty event is worse than protests for human rights getting out of hand (often at the hands of rightwing agitators or instigated by the police), so sue me you wretch piece of garbage.

#153 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's a false comparison and, ... a willfully dishonest one.

Sounds like a description of lying piece of ----- posts

#154 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"one protest was more righteous than the other"

Do you disagree?

#155 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:28 PM | Reply

"I'm saying an attempt to overthrow democracy"...Yet you defend and applaud it when Democrats use the exact same language Trump used to delegitimize an election you lying sack of ----.

"cause a mass casualty event" 1 person was killed as a direct result of the 1/6 riot and it was one of the rioters.

"protests for human rights getting out of hand (often at the hands of rightwing agitators or instigated by the police),"

This is why you are such a vile human being. You are literally defending and justifying the violence of 2020. With no regard for any of the actual victims.

#156 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:29 PM | Reply

argh the stupidity hurts my brain.

Please link to any democrat denying the validity of the election before it is even conducted or filing 60 bogus lawsuits, or contemplating seizing ballot boxes or submitting fake electors or perfect phone call asking them to find 11,000 ballots or sending his armed goons to the Capitol, etc etc etc

Your ignorance is showing as there were reports of plans to lock legislators in tunnels and turning on gas

Do yourself a favor and do a deep dive into the actual violence of the BLM protests, you will find the majority caused by rightwing agitators or instigated by the police-simple fact

But this says it best:

It's a false comparison and, ... a willfully dishonest one.

#157 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:34 PM | Reply

cause a mass casualty event" 1 person was killed as a direct result of the 1/6 riot and it was one of the rioters

There are 5 dead cops because you losers bought the demented orange turd's election lies. Own it.

#158 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 10:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

abcnews.go.com

While inside the Capitol, Caldwell allegedly received Facebook messages telling him to "seal" in lawmakers in the tunnels under the Capitol and to "turn on gas." Other messages appeared to be trying to give him updates on the locations of lawmakers, the affidavit states.

#159 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:38 PM | Reply

"Do yourself a favor and do a deep dive into the actual violence of the BLM protests, you will find the majority caused by rightwing agitators or instigated by the police-simple fact":

Uh huh. So that is why that Democrats set up a bail fund and Kamala Harris promoted it - to bail out rightwing agitators.

Yet, even mention Ray Epps with him on video encouraging people to enter the capitol and whispering in the ear of the first person to breach the barricade, right before he breached the barricade and it you and your ilk lose your ----, this even after 3 defendants had their cases dismissed in the Michigan governor kidnapping case because it was hatched and created by the FBI.

You are such a stupid piece of ----.

#160 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:38 PM | Reply

#159 Fine. Prosecute them for their crimes. Get to the bottom of how deep 1/6 ran in terms of planning and coordination. I am all for that. I will not defend rioting. Ever.

#161 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:39 PM | Reply

That is the fundamental difference. Snoofy is a great example - he is all but applauding the murder of David Dorn.

#162 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:41 PM | Reply

We are being asked to ignore ALL of the actual numbers (homicides, assaults, arson, looting, property damage, etc)

No, YOU'RE the one ignoring the numbers proving that 1/6 was exponentially worse than the totality of BLM protests by the very metrics that you so ignorantly think prove the opposite.

We're simply rational enough to also understand that the continuation of our government is far more important than buildings and individuals when 1/6 would have affected all 340 million Americans.

...there were more than 10,600 demonstration events across the country between May 24 and August 22, 2020. Estimates place property damage at $1.2 - $2 million. (I'll use the $2M number)

There have been 14,000 arrests related to BLM protests, or about 1.32 per event.

884 people and counting have been charged for crimes on 1/6.

$2,000,000,000 damage/10,600 protests = $188,700 per event 1/6 damage to Capitol = $1.5 million

en.wikipedia.org

1.32 arrests is smaller than 884, correct?

$188,700 is smaller than $1.5 million, correct?

Now tell us again how 1/6 wasn't worse than the BLM protests.

#163 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 10:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" I will not defend rioting. Ever."

But you'll lie and say I defend it. What's the difference???

#164 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 10:42 PM | Reply

#157 We can start with Stacey Abrahms.

But then, throwing shade on an election result is protected by the 1st Amendment. Just ask Al Gore or Hillary Clinton about that.

#165 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:43 PM | Reply

I am all for that. I will not defend rioting. Ever.

#161 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Yet you lie and say no cops died as a result of 1/6, which is objectively defending 1/6

You, sir, are a lying piece of ----.

#166 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:45 PM | Reply

Yet, even mention Ray Epps with him on video encouraging people to enter the capitol and whispering in the ear of the first person to breach the barricade

You should be permabanned for bringing up his name again. The truth of Epps was featured on the Front Page and any talk of him being a plant is nothing but unadulterated BS from the lowest bowels of the cesspool inhabited those trying to whitewash 1/6.

In other words, your miserable consciousness and the dreck you allow to enter it.

#167 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 10:46 PM | Reply

LOL Jeffj, the lying piece of ----, is so desperate that he brings up Epps.

too farking funny

iirc even the rightwing whacko conspiracists are off that one

#168 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:47 PM | Reply

"Get to the bottom of how deep 1/6 ran in terms of planning and coordination."

How much more do you need to know? It was a coup attempt, and Trump was involved in the planning.

Do you deny that?

#169 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 10:47 PM | Reply

"But you'll lie and say I defend it. What's the difference???

#164 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2022-08-01 10:42 PM"

Any time the 2020 riots are brought up you immediately go into a bizarre mode of equivocation. You cite protesting a truth vs protesting a lie - as if setting a building on fire and shooting a retired black cop is OK so long as it's done under the right cause.

#170 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:47 PM | Reply

#167 So, Epps is a hero? Got it. Hack.

Any real journalist would be skeptical of that appeal to authority.

#171 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:49 PM | Reply

"#167 | POSTED BY TONYROMA"

So, your source is NYT which is the Pravda arm of the DNC and your linked article is hidden behind a paywall. Be better, Tony Roma.

#172 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:50 PM | Reply

this even after 3 defendants had their cases dismissed in the Michigan governor kidnapping case because it was hatched and created by the FBI.
You are such a stupid piece of ----.

#160 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

www.woodtv.com

A federal judge has denied motions to acquit two men accused of conspiring to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, meaning they are headed toward a retrial.

But Assistant U.S. Attorney Nils Kessler pointed out that two men have already pleaded guilty to the conspiracy. He referenced evidence presented in the first trial of Fox and Croft saying they wanted to "snatch and grab" Whitmer and argued they prepared for a kidnapping, including gathering equipment and going on the surveillance trips. He also argued that a conspiracy can exist even if the defendants had not yet firmly decided on the when and how and even if their plan was not feasible.

OOOPS

#173 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:51 PM | Reply

How much more do you need to know? It was a coup attempt, and Trump was involved in the planning.
Do you deny that?

#169 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Jeffj doesn't watch the hearings, yet has reached conclusions. Kind of says a lot about where he stands on the issue

#174 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:52 PM | Reply

" You are the one who is saying a moron in a Viking outfit raging through the capitol ... "

You're a moron if you actually believe the larger threat to the Capitol was from the folks who were outside during Trump's speech.

Of course, you don't believe that, you just pretend it. The intellectual dishonesty is breathtaking.

#175 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 10:52 PM | Reply

jeffj doubling down on epps, too ------- funny

#176 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:55 PM | Reply

Jeff"It's a false comparison and ... a willfully dishonest one."j

#177 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 10:56 PM | Reply

#163

Correction. Damages from BLM protests were between $1.2-$2 BILLION.

The $188,700 per event number is correct though compared to $1.5 million for 1/6 damages,

Oh, and 25 people died related to BLM protests, an average of .0024 deaths per event, so counting Ashli alone, 1/6 was 4000x more deadly than an average BLM protest.

By Bellringer's own metrics, 1/6 was exponentially worse than BLM protests by damages, deaths and costs per event.

Wonder where he'll move the goalposts now?

#178 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 10:58 PM | Reply

I'm glad Trump is gone. Biggest reason is he didn't concede defeat after he lost in court. I don't want him to run. If he runs in the primary I will vote against him. If he is the GOP nominee I will vote 3rd party (for the 3rd straight election) unless the Dems come up with a reasonable alternative to Kamala Harris.

#179 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 10:59 PM | Reply

" NYT which is the Pravda arm of the DNC "

Bellringer, lying to let folks know he's not interested in a serious discussion

#180 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-01 10:59 PM | Reply

#172

drudge.com

Read away -------. Just Google, you'd find the same story not behind a paywall, and many have told you have to circumvent them anyway. You're just a lazy ass still unwilling to admit you're wrong as rain.

#181 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 11:01 PM | Reply

I'm glad Trump is gone. Biggest reason is he didn't concede defeat after he lost in court. I don't want him to run.

You lie as much as Trump. Give it a rest.

#182 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 11:01 PM | Reply

#178 Wow, Tony Roma. That is quite the equivocation you are running with. What you are essentially saying is that left-wing -------- (although you probably see them as righteous) have WAY more riot events but when right-wing -------- get off their lazy asses to riot they do it with more aplomb. That's an....interesting argument you are making.

#183 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:02 PM | Reply

Danforth defending left-wing violence to let folks know he's not interested in a serious discussion.

#184 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:03 PM | Reply

I'm glad Trump is gone. Biggest reason is he didn't concede defeat after he lost in court. I don't want him to run. If he runs in the primary I will vote against him. If he is the GOP nominee I will vote 3rd party (for the 3rd straight election) unless the Dems come up with a reasonable alternative to Kamala Harris.

#179 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You know jeff that noone believes you, right? SO why post such nonsense

#185 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 11:04 PM | Reply

I will vote 3rd party (for the 3rd straight election) unless the Dems come up with a reasonable alternative to Kamala Harris.
#179 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

LMAO. You claimed you'd vote for Joe Biden if he were the Dem nominee in 2020, then like a good little ---- you sat down and did whatever Tucker Carlson told you to do. You aren't voting for a Dem no matter who they are so just STFU.

#186 | Posted by JOE at 2022-08-01 11:04 PM | Reply

Yep, Epps somehow dropped off the FBI's most wanted list for no explicable reason and is now a hero among the left.

#187 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:05 PM | Reply

#186 I never said I'd vote for Joe Biden because he actually made his agenda fairly clear, at least as it pertained to our Southern border.

I never claimed I would vote for a Dem POTUS. I left open the possibility in the outside chance a sane candidate won the primary - not happening any time soon.

#188 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:07 PM | Reply

#185 That is how I voted. Period.

#189 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:08 PM | Reply

#183

Goalposts moved! Great job knob, it only took you one post. I didn't run with anything but for your objection stated in your own words.

We are being asked to ignore ALL of the actual numbers (homicides, assaults, arson, looting, property damage, etc) and distill it down to one protest was more righteous than the other, therefore we must throw objectivity out of the window.

You compare protests to protests, don't you? If there were 10,600 1/6's the numbers would dwarf any conception of belief. I gave you objectivity, and you responded with inanity.

Obviously, because it's your strong suit.

#190 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 11:08 PM | Reply

Just circling back to the lying piece of ----- link

Alleged weapons at 1/6

Knives, flag poles, fire extinguishers, baseball bats, tasers, crowbars, tomahawk axes

nothing about guns or pipe bombs

IOW link is garbage

#191 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 11:08 PM | Reply

#185 That is how I voted. Period.

#189 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

And since you are a lying piece of ----, NO ONE BELIEVES YOU.

See that is the inevitable result of being a, wait for it........ LYING PIECE OF ----

#192 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 11:09 PM | Reply

Yep, Epps .... is now a hero among the left.

#187 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Link or you're a liar

#193 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 11:10 PM | Reply

"Read away -------. Just Google, you'd find the same story not behind a paywall, and many have told you have to circumvent them anyway. You're just a lazy ass still unwilling to admit you're wrong as rain.

#181 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2022-08-01 11:01 PM | REPLY "

Thank you for the alternate link. I apologize for not seeing it right away. When the ratio is 4+ - 1 it takes some time to respond to all of the opposing posts.

#194 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:11 PM | Reply

Yep, Epps somehow dropped off the FBI's most wanted list for no explicable reason and is now a hero among the left.

#187 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Epps was on the FBI's most wanted? Link or you're a liar

#195 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 11:12 PM | Reply

"nothing about guns or pipe bombs"

Prolly because, at least from what I've seen so far, nobody who was inside the building has been charged with carrying a firearm and I've seen zero effort at finding the identity(s) of whoever placed those pipe bombs.

#196 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:12 PM | Reply

Yep, Epps somehow dropped off the FBI's most wanted list for no explicable reason and is now a hero among the left.

He's no hero to anyone that I'm aware of. Epps is just another sucker who bought into Trump's lies and paid a hefty price.

www.businessinsider.com
www.politico.com

What I care about is ethically-challenged knobs like yourself coming here and spreading lies and disinformation while the peaceful future of this nation balances on a knife's edge.

I try me best to deal in truths wherever they lead me. I abhor lies and liars because the intentionally cause immeasurable damage to this nation's comity. Such behavior should never be normalized by those of good conscious.

#197 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 11:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Epps was on the FBI's most wanted? Link or you're a liar

#195 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

I stand corrected

#198 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 11:14 PM | Reply

"nothing about guns or pipe bombs"
Prolly because, at least from what I've seen so far, nobody who was inside the building has been charged with carrying a firearm and I've seen zero effort at finding the identity(s) of whoever placed those pipe bombs.

#196 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I literally laughed out loud

#199 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 11:15 PM | Reply

"Epps was on the FBI's most wanted? Link or you're a liar

#195 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2022-08-01 11:12 PM"

I normally don't jump through stupid-ass hoops that leftist liars put out there for ---- that is common knowledge. In this case I made an exception. This is the very first link that came up via a search:

"Who is Ray Epps? The Capitol riot figure who disappeared from the FBI's wanted list"'

www.independent.co.uk

#200 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:15 PM | Reply

Tony Roma - I still haven't gotten to your original link because I've been dealing with Douchehurts nonsense.

#201 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:16 PM | Reply

He must be blind....

drudge.com

#202 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-01 11:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#201 Jesus effing Christ, Tony Roma. THAT is your source. I did read that piece of garbage when it was published and it was, and remains, so ------- pathetic....no logical explanation between Epps on camera and the left's defense of him to a point where NYT paints him as a victim. You people are absolutely ridiculous.

#203 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:19 PM | Reply

186 I never said I'd vote for Joe Biden because he actually made his agenda fairly clear, at least as it pertained to our Southern border.

Yes you did, liar. You said you'd vote for him but included some transparent hedge like "unless something changes between now and the election." And - voila!

You can cosplay as a reasonable, independent mind all you want, but the only person you're fooling is yourself.

And before you say "---- off joe youre partisan too!" I know i'm partisan. I ------- loathe Republicans. I'm just not so ridiculous that i'll ever pretend i'd vote for one.

#204 | Posted by JOE at 2022-08-01 11:20 PM | Reply

Jeff, Epps didn't go into the capitol, that has a lot to do with it. Pretty simple and basic btw.

Everything else is conspiracy

But, you know that, don't you, you trash person

#205 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-01 11:21 PM | Reply

Ray Epps disappeared from the FBI's list because he talked to the FBI on January 8th as soon as he found out that they were looking for him.

On Jan. 8, 2021, just two days after the Capitol was attacked, Mr. Epps learned from a family member that the F.B.I. had issued a be-on-the-lookout alert in his name. He said he immediately called the bureau's National Threat Operations Center, and his phone records show that he spoke to agents there for nearly an hour.

The F.B.I. has repeatedly declined to comment on Mr. Epps, but his account of calling the operations center - and of sitting down for a formal discussion with federal agents in March 2021 - is backed by transcripts of those interviews reviewed by The New York Times.

The interview transcripts show that Mr. Epps told agents that he had spent much of his time at the Capitol seeking to calm down other rioters, an assertion supported by multiple video clips.

Mr. Epps, who questioned the results of the election, was also interviewed twice by the House select committee on Jan. 6. After his dealings with the panel were completed, officials released a statement saying he had told them that he never worked as an asset for, or an employee of, any federal law enforcement agency.

www.nytimes.com

Ray Epps testified under oath and there are no warrants for his arrest under perjury charges. Are you done with him now?

#206 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 11:21 PM | Reply

Jesus effing Christ, Tony Roma. THAT is your source.

I've posted 3 different ones (see 197). So, the man's own words and the transcripts from his FBI interview are suspect to you because they're printed in the NYT?

You're simply a joke, and I'm tired of laughing at you. Good night.

#207 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 11:24 PM | Reply

"Any time the 2020 riots are brought up you immediately go into a bizarre mode of equivocation"

Speaking of equivocation,

The only people who bring up the 2020 riots are Republicans, whenever there's bad news about Republicans, from the latest Jan 6 Committee hearings, to guys like this Deplorable that Maryland might get for Attorney General.

#208 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-01 11:33 PM | Reply

"Yes you did, liar."

No, I didn't. Liar. I never supported Biden's proposed policies and was absolutely disgusted by how his campaign kept him hidden from the public with Covid as an excuse and how the major media outlets and big tech conspired to suppress information negative to him and promote information that could be spun as positive to him.

You are an 'ends justify the means' person, Joe. That is what I've observed via interactions with you. On the one hand you will denounce supposed abandonment of norms and on the other you will openly call for abandonment of ALL political norms if the result is a short-term political victory for you.

You have no idea how terrible that kind of outlook is. No honest person would ever voluntarily transact with you if they knew that about you.

#209 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:36 PM | Reply

Epps somehow dropped off the FBI's most wanted list

Another lie. Epps was on the FBI's BOLO list of persons photographed during the 1/6 insurrection that they were seeking help to identify from the public. Thousands of people were placed on these lists so that the FBI could find them and then speak with them about their activities. Of course, some were already identified as likely suspects, but most of them weren't and many, like Epps, walked away without being charged.

Epps was never on the FBI's "Most Wanted" list.

#210 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 11:37 PM | Reply

"The interview transcripts show that Mr. Epps told agents that he had spent much of his time at the Capitol seeking to calm down other rioters, an assertion supported by multiple video clips....." of course after he is on camera cajoling them to ENTER the capitol. But yeah. Let's just call him a victim.

#211 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:39 PM | Reply

No, I didn't. Liar.

Yes you did, liar. I distinctly remember laughing at you about how obvious it was that you'd backtrack. And now you just deny it altogether. What a pathetic ------- ----.

No honest person would ever voluntarily transact with you

Oh, the horror

#212 | Posted by JOE at 2022-08-01 11:39 PM | Reply

Epps was never on the FBI's "Most Wanted" list.

Flint Water Jeff never stops lying.

#213 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-01 11:40 PM | Reply

"Epps was never on the FBI's "Most Wanted" list.

#210 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2022-08-01 11:37 PM"

Maybe not. Maybe, though:

"Epps, an Arizona man and former Oath Keeper, had been on the FBI's Capitol Violence most wanted list before he was removed without explanation after nearly six months."

denvergazette.com

Given how aggressive the DOJ has been pursuing in some cases the crime of "unlawful parading" can you at least understand why the dramatic change in his criminal status is viewed with some skepticism?

#214 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:45 PM | Reply

"Yes you did, liar. I distinctly remember laughing at you about how obvious it was that you'd backtrack. And now you just deny it altogether. What a pathetic ------- ----."

Now you are just making ---- up. Go hump your hand or purchase services from a hooker. We all know you aren't getting any voluntarily unless money is involved you sack of ----.

#215 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:47 PM | Reply

But yeah. Let's just call him a victim.

I called him a victim of Trump's lies, which was the reason he was there on January 6th. Why do you try to contort that which is easily understood by any rational person?

Epps has kept a low profile since former President Donald Trump's allies began promoting a theory that Epps was a federal agent and helped foment the attack. Their claims stem from videos taken on Jan. 5 showing Epps urging Trump allies to "go into the Capitol" - an exhortation that some in the crowd quickly booed and responded to with chants accusing Epps of being a "fed." Epps quickly added that it should be done "peacefully."

Epps was also seen in footage just before 1 p.m. on Jan. 6 at the front of a line of Trump supporters who were among the first to breach the Capitol barricades. He whispered something into the ear of Ryan Samsel, who has been charged as one of the first defendants to breach secured Capitol grounds. Moments later, Samsel and others charged through a barricade, injuring a Capitol Police officer on the other side.

But Epps did not appear to join in the violence and his lawyer says "he was never in the Capitol building" " key factors in the Justice Department's charging decisions.

www.politico.com

#216 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 11:47 PM | Reply

#216 I don't dispute any of that - and none of that absolves Epps of anything. He looks suspicious as hell and the ones defending him have serious credibility issues when it comes to political issues.

#217 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:50 PM | Reply

#217 Tony Roma - that wasn't directed at you personally - it was directed at the sources you are providing.

#218 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 11:55 PM | Reply

FBI's Capitol Violence most wanted list

Which is a BOLO list by definition. Many of the people early on had not been directly tied to any criminal acts other than being photographed on Capitol grounds on 1/6. Epps never entered the Capitol, nor attacked police, yet he was placed on the list. Today the list is more refined and targeted towards the more violent offenders.

And there was no Capitol Violence List until 1/6, so there is that too. They had to create one for ... wait for it ... the violence of Trump supporters concentrated on the Capitol that day trying to overthrow the US Government.

You know what there isn't and never has been? A BLM Most Wanted for Violence List. Go figure. Just another metric proving 1/6 was exponentially worse than the BLM protests.

#219 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-01 11:56 PM | Reply

"You know what there isn't and never has been? A BLM Most Wanted for Violence List. Go figure. Just another metric proving 1/6 was exponentially worse than the BLM protests."

Which is a clear dereliction of duty given the amount of violence of the 2020 riots. It points to a two-tiered system of justice in this country based upon political ideology.

#220 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:00 AM | Reply

"1/6. Epps never entered the Capitol, nor attacked police,"

Nor did Trump - yet he's being accused of "incitement" when Epps is far more guilty of that exact same accusation.

#221 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:02 AM | Reply

One last thing about Epps:

On Jan. 6 itself, Mr. Epps, believing he could stop the violence at the Capitol, inserted himself into a conflict between the police and members of the pro-Trump mob that is widely considered to be the tipping point of the attack.

He can be seen in videos from around 1 p.m. that day accosting a rioter named Ryan Samsel, who had already started to confront officers behind a metal barricade on the west side of the Capitol. Mr. Epps said he intervened in the conflict to keep Mr. Samsel from attacking the police and tried to tell Mr. Samsel that the officers were merely doing their jobs. Mr. Samsel gave an identical account to the F.B.I. when he was arrested weeks later.

Mr. Epps also said he regretted sending a text to his nephew, well after the violence had erupted, in which he discussed how he helped to orchestrate the movements of people who were leaving Mr. Trump's speech near the White House by pointing them in the direction of the Capitol.

Mr. Epps further acknowledged that while he moved past barricades into a restricted area of the Capitol grounds, he did not go into the building itself. The vast majority of those who did not enter the building or commit additional crimes have not been charged.

#222 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-02 12:03 AM | Reply

It points to a two-tiered system of justice in this country based upon political ideology.

You're a fecking moron. The police arrested 14,000 perps and you somehow think that wasn't enough? Do you think that local PD didn't find the suspects they were looking for? Do you even you your brain for anything except to find new tangents to deflect to?

Innocent people were kettled and jailed enmas during BLM protests. The police and Guard let would-be murderers and rapists - along with vandals and battery suspects - walk away from the Capitol without affecting a single arrest, and you claim that the BLM criminals received preferential treatment?

How do you say you're a bigoted, unthinking POS without actually saying it?

#223 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-02 12:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Nor did Trump - yet he's being accused of "incitement""

Yeah, we all know Trump said "peaceful" once ... how many times did he say "fight" ... ?

Got any intellectual honesty left?

#224 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-02 12:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" how many times did he say "fight"

Probably less than a single John McCain stump speech. "Fight" is so incredibly common in political vernacular - are you really ignorant of this?

#225 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:14 AM | Reply

#223 Tony Roma - honestly, I haven't seen any numbers reported regarding the 2020 riots in terms of arrests and indictments and certainly not as a measurement of the totality of the criminal acts as a whole.

The numbers regarding assaults, police injuries, homicides, arson, vandalism, looting and overall property damage are pretty well documented.

As for criminal indictments - much to the chagrin of Danforth, Truthhurts and Snoofy - arson is considered a crime in this country regardless of the so-called 'motivation'.

#226 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:19 AM | Reply

Has any GofundMe bail fund been set up for the 1/6 rioters and have any Republicans openly (or even quietly) pimped for it?

#227 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:26 AM | Reply

" As for criminal indictments - much to the chagrin of Danforth, Truthhurts and Snoofy - arson is considered a crime in this country regardless of the so-called 'motivation'."

Why TF have you given up on trying to address truth?

You can't seem to make a single post without lying. Are your arguments actually that weak?

I never suggested for a GD moment lawbreakers shouldn't be prosecuted. All I said was, if you can't tell the difference between protesting based on the truth versus protesting based on a Big Lie, you're a first-class idiot.

#228 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-02 12:28 AM | Reply

#226

I posted the numbers with link in post 163 and again in 178. The numbers prove you wrong by your own metrics. I've yet to see you actually respond to them.

#229 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-02 12:29 AM | Reply

"Fight" is so incredibly common in political vernacular - are you really ignorant of this?"

No, not at all. Are you ignorant of how many times morons like you have tried to excuse Trump's behavior because he said "peaceful" once?

#230 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-02 12:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#230 Trump is a POS. I can't say that enough. Some of his actions post-2020 election were and remain unprecedented. Focus on that and stop with making hay over "fight" rhetoric.

#231 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:35 AM | Reply

"I've yet to see you actually respond to them.

#229 | POSTED BY TONYROMA"

I know I responded to your numbers - comments have been proliferating like wildfire on this thread - probably got missed by you as a result. I can reproduce my comment if you'd like.

#232 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:36 AM | Reply

"All I said was, if you can't tell the difference between protesting based on the truth versus protesting based on a Big Lie, you're a first-class idiot.

#228 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2022-08-02 12:28 AM:"

I addressed that as well - "Hand's up, don't shoot." With Michael Brown was that the truth or a Big Lie?

#233 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:39 AM | Reply

Has any GofundMe bail fund been set up for the 1/6 rioters and have any Republicans openly (or even quietly) pimped for it?

#227 | POSTED BY BLUMKINGIVER

Your orange hero spent millions to bring you cop killing berserkers to DC on 1-6.

www.usatoday.com

#234 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-02 12:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"we're going to have trial by combat"

-giuiliani

#235 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-08-02 12:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#234 Unlike you, I don't have situational ethics. Some things are wrong and they will always be wrong. I am not the one defending the indefensible.

#236 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:51 AM | Reply

"#235 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

In fairness, it was a good GOT reference.

#237 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:52 AM | Reply

#236

You're the deplorable trying to pin Dotard's coup attempt on Ray Epps. It's beyond pathetic.

#238 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-02 01:04 AM | Reply

I'm questioning why Ray Epps has been given a complete pass and why he's become such a darling of the left with ZERO scrutiny from our media other than a puff piece in NYT, especially given some of the misdemeanor crimes of entering an open door, walking around for 13 minutes and then leaving, vs his complete exoneration and victimhood status bequeathed by the NYT at the behest of the DOJ.

#239 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 01:12 AM | Reply

"I addressed that as well - "Hand's up, don't shoot." "

So...you addressed it...with a deflection?!?.

Nobody was protesting Michael Brown in 2020. Are you saying you have to ADD that to the pile of comparison, so you can assuage your conscience for enabling the next round?

#240 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-02 01:58 AM | Reply

"I don't have situational ethics."

Was 1/6 an assassination attempt on Mike Pence?

#241 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-02 01:59 AM | Reply

"Nobody was protesting Michael Brown in 2020."

Yet he was protested in violent fashion based upon the "hands up, don't shoot" lie. A lot of violence resulted from that lie. It was a lie propagated by the most powerful and influential institutions in our society.

#242 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 02:09 AM | Reply

"Was 1/6 an assassination attempt on Mike Pence?

#241 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2022-08-02 01:59 AM"

Was Roske an assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh?

What about a large number of Republican congressmen with Hodgkinson?

Assassination attempt?

#243 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 02:12 AM | Reply

230 Trump is a POS. I can't say that enough. Some of his actions post-2020 election were and remain unprecedented.

Lol ... .. Trig would laugh at this turd's lies

#244 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-02 02:40 AM | Reply

Ray Epps ... derp ... ..Ray Epps ... ... derp.

It's sad to see that Flint Water Jeff has gone full Q-tard.

#245 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-08-02 02:45 AM | Reply

"A lot of violence resulted from that lie."

And I clearly stated at the time all lawbreakers should be prosecuted, and that MB was a stupid cause.

Meanwhile, you screech "assassination attempt" when the guy got cold feet and turned himself in, while you REFUSE to refer to 1/6 as an "assassination attempt", despite the fact a) the attempted assassins (plural) DID assault the guards, b) they didn't get cold feet, and c) they were LITERALLY chanting "Hang Mike Pence!"

If you believe the Kavanaugh incident was an assassination attempt (as I do), then don't ever refer to 1/6 as anything less.

#246 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-02 04:01 AM | Reply

"What about a large number of Republican congressmen with Hodgkinson?"

Rand Paul retweeted Judge Napolitano about that very subject.

Don't you remember?
"Why do we have a Second Amendment? It's not to shoot deer. It's to shoot at the government when it becomes tyrannical!"

#247 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-02 04:09 AM | Reply

Now you are just making ---- up.

Lmao. Look how embarrassed you are of yourself. Literally denying reality at this point. I hope it helps you cope.

#248 | Posted by JOE at 2022-08-02 07:18 AM | Reply

9/11 happened over 20 years ago. Today it's simply a trivial event compared to 1/6.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-01 01:56 PM | Reply | Flag:

1/6 was way worse than 9/11.

9/11 was foreign terrorists attacking and killing Americans for their jihad.

1/6 was AMERICANS attacking and killing AMERICANS for their jihad.

The fact that the US returned to sucking the --- of the Saudi's after 9/11 was just another reason when we need to find other sources of energy than oil.

#249 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-08-02 08:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let's see ... .9/11 over 2000 killed and the World Trade Center destroyed and air travel forever altered.

1/6 one rioter killed, some property damage, dozens injured and the process was completed.

Yet, somehow 1/6 was way worse. You people are absolutely ridiculous.

#250 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 10:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Yet, somehow 1/6 was way worse. You people are absolutely ridiculous.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER

On what scale of magnitude would YOU place an attempt to bring down the US Government?

If memory serves, if Canada tried that we'd declare war on Canada.

You need to stop defending this crap. Makes you look like a fascist revolutionist.

#251 | Posted by Zed at 2022-08-02 10:51 AM | Reply

" 1/6 one rioter killed, some property damage, dozens injured and the process was completed."

Annnnd ... once again, Bellringer leaves out the salient part.

Why do you keep pretending the actual threat was from the folks OUTSIDE the Capitol, Bellringer? Intellectually dishonest, or just plain dishonest?

#252 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-08-02 11:01 AM | Reply

Bellyache has no problem demonizing BLM protestors in order to defend his Trumper insurrectionist brethren.

Bellyache is just another closeted racist.

#253 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-02 11:16 AM | Reply

9/11 over 2000 killed and the World Trade Center destroyed

And then BushJr told everyone to go out and keep shopping.

He recommended everyone go to Disney world.

Since 1/6 Republicans have stripped Americans of their rights and freedoms.

They've become alarmingly fascist.

1/6 killed American democracy.

#254 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-02 11:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Bellyache is just another closeted racist.

#253 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2022-08-02 11:16 AM | REPLY

Closeted?

#255 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-02 11:44 AM | Reply

Yeah. I see it now. 1/6 was on par with a mass extinction event.

#256 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:31 PM | Reply

The Holocaust "victims" were just enjoying a sauna by comparison.

#257 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:32 PM | Reply

The people in Hiroshima were treated to a world class pyrotechnics display by comparison.

#258 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:33 PM | Reply

The Death Star rendered the planet of Alderaan to its natural state by comparison.

#259 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:35 PM | Reply

1/6 was such an unspeakable act of evil it caused Satan to cry on God's shoulder in sorrow.

#260 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-02 12:36 PM | Reply

#260 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

01/06 was bad enough that a former president must go to prison to help make sure it doesn't happen again.

Maybe the next time there's a coup enough people will be killed to impress you.

#261 | Posted by Zed at 2022-08-02 12:44 PM | Reply

The Holocaust "victims" were just enjoying a sauna by comparison.
#257 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The people in Hiroshima were treated to a world class pyrotechnics display by comparison.
#258 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The Death Star rendered the planet of Alderaan to its natural state by comparison.
#259 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

1/6 was such an unspeakable act of evil it caused Satan to cry on God's shoulder in sorrow.
#260 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

What bothers me most about adults using the just joking defense, however, is that someone is trying to not only escape blame, but reassign it. Instead of listeners reprimanding a speaker who says something cruel, insensitive, or wrong, they are told they are being overly sensitive for taking offensive. The just joking defense also ignores the power construct within it. Oftentimes, the punch line of an offensive statement attacks a group with less power within society. Finally, the just joking defense cuts off conversation and dialogue, something we need more of in our culture. Instead of being able to engage in a conversation about why joking about police brutality is offensive, the conversation is immediately cut off. www.insidehighered.com

#262 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-02 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"What bothers me most about adults using the just joking defense..."

It's bellender. The cruelty is the point.

#263 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-08-02 12:57 PM | Reply

The Holocaust "victims" were just enjoying a sauna by comparison.
#257 | POSTED BY BELLYACHE

Who you trying to kid?

If you were a German, pre WW2, you'd be complaining about how violent and destructive Jews are.

Just like you're doing here with BLM.

#264 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-02 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#103 1/6 was a protest that morphed into a riot. I oppose ALL riots and want to see what we are seeing - those who committed crimes being held accountable in a court of law.

In totality, the BLM riots were exponentially worse by every possible metric yet they are explained away, downplayed, defended, and a gofundme bail fund was created and promoted by several members of the Biden team including Kamala Harris.

#104 | Posted by BellRinger

This is how stupid you sound when you intentionally avoid reality by not watching the 1/6 hearings.

1/6 was ONE part of a multi month plot to overthrow democracy. The riot was just one part of the plan. And the plan continues to this day. Your party is STILL ousting anyone who wont repeat the big lie and replacing them with fascist toadies who will help them overthrow democracy next time they attempt it.

The only metric that counts is: ATTEMPTS TO END DEMOCRACY

BLM: 0
TRUMP CULT: 1

#265 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-02 01:24 PM | Reply

Yeah. I see it now. 1/6 was on par with a mass extinction event.

#256 | Posted by BellRinger

Yeah the mass extinction of american democracy. Not surprisingly executed by the party that putin has been funding and supporting.

#266 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-02 01:26 PM | Reply

Probably less than a single John McCain stump speech. "Fight" is so incredibly common in political vernacular - are you really ignorant of this?

#225 | Posted by BellRinger

How often did john mccain say it to armed militias whose heads had been filled with lies about how they had one last chance to save their way of life?

#267 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-02 01:27 PM | Reply

"Fight" is so incredibly common in political vernacular - are you really ignorant of this?
#225 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

"And we fight. We fight like hell And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore."
President Donald J. TRUMP, Jan 6, 2021.
www.rollingstone.com

To clear up any ignorance and confusion about what the direct quote above means, please explain it to us.
Thanks.

Here's some additional context:
"Because you'll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength and you have to be strong."
"Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that's what this is all about ... We will stop the steal."
"All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they're doing ... We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn't happen. You don't concede when there's theft involved."

Thanks again!

#268 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-02 01:40 PM | Reply

Is Jeff's "argument" basically "there are other bad things therefore this thing isn't bad?" Wow, imagine spending 24 hours of your life on that riveting thesis.

#269 | Posted by JOE at 2022-08-02 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Let's see ... .9/11 over 2000 killed and the World Trade Center destroyed and air travel forever altered.
1/6 one rioter killed, some property damage, dozens injured and the process was completed.
Yet, somehow 1/6 was way worse. You people are absolutely ridiculous.

#250 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No, just capable of abstract thought you simpleton.

#270 | Posted by jpw at 2022-08-02 03:14 PM | Reply

Let's see ... .9/11 over 2000 killed and the World Trade Center destroyed and air travel forever altered.
1/6 one rioter killed, some property damage, dozens injured and the process was completed.
Yet, somehow 1/6 was way worse. You people are absolutely ridiculous.

#250 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

9/11 was a foreign attack that united our country
1/6 was a domestic attack that divided our country.

Tell me stupid - is america stronger when united or divided?

How many americans died to secure the democracy that your cult tried to end on 1/6?

#271 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-02 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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