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Thursday, August 04, 2022

Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday suspended Hillsborough County State Attorney Andrew Warren for not prosecuting certain crimes, removing him from office and naming his replacement.

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The suspension, which stunned observers, removed one of the state's most outspoken prosecutors. Warren, a Democrat, has been a frequent critic of DeSantis, including calling the governor's 2021 "anti-riot" legislation a misguided "solution in search of a problem" and questioning the need for an election security force proposed by DeSantis.

DeSantis' order does not cite any specific examples of Warren not prosecuting individual cases, pointing instead to Warren's public comments on abortion, transgender issues and office policies Warren has adopted.

But Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister said at Thursday's news conference that police have had long-running frustrations with Warren for not prosecuting particular cases.

The governor's decision was a stunning override of the the 369,129 Hillsborough County voters who cast their ballot for Warren in 2020, which made up 53.4 percent of turnout.

Tampa Mayor Jane Castor, who was the city's police chief from 2009 to 2015, denounced Warren's suspension.

"Removing a duly elected official should be based on egregious actions"not political statements," she tweeted. "In a free state, voters should choose their elected officials."

Welcome to the Peoples' Republic of Florida. Voters? Eff 'em. Prosecutorial discretion? Not under Supreme Leader DeSantis. Step in line or suffer the consequences.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-04 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

How so?
Is this any different in other states?
Does the federal government protect this state attorney or not?
This isn't just about this attorney
It's what his constituents want

Nothing can be done so what's the big deal

- - eberlyz

#2 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2022-08-04 03:16 PM | Reply

King Ron stinks like rotting fish.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-08-04 03:37 PM | Reply

7nbsp

... DeSantis' order does not cite any specific examples of Warren not prosecuting individual cases ...

So, Gov DeSantis did this without citing any evidence?

What is it about Republicans nowadays and their apparent aversion to providing evidence to substantiate their actions and comments?


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-04 04:06 PM | Reply

Tell me again he's not an authoritarian.

C'mon guys! Tell me again how local governance is best.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2022-08-04 04:11 PM | Reply

"What is it about Republicans nowadays and their apparent aversion to providing evidence to substantiate their actions and comments?"

They want what they want and you can GFY if you have a problem with it.

#6 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-08-04 04:17 PM | Reply

I suggest that posters of good conscious now refer to what was formerly the state of Florida as The PRF(Peoples' Republic of Florida), at least until DeSantis is gone from the Governor's office.

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-04 05:52 PM | Reply

"Overruling Voters"

Not exactly what the article says. But that's certainly a view of what America will look like under Republican rule.

#8 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-08-04 06:15 PM | Reply

Not enforcing a trans child gender affirming restriction law that doesnt exist.

Won't enforce an abortion ban when abortion is in the Fl Constitution.

Republicans are scum

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-04 06:18 PM | Reply

Not exactly what the article says.

It's EXACTLY what the article says.

The governor's decision was a stunning override of the the 369,129 Hillsborough County voters who cast their ballot for Warren in 2020, which made up 53.4 percent of turnout.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-04 06:36 PM | Reply

Who does this guy ultimately report to?

#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-04 11:07 PM | Reply

In all seriousness, how is this possible?

#12 | Posted by memyselfini at 2022-08-04 11:23 PM | Reply

#12 Did you read the article tied to this thread?

It does a halfway decent job of explaining how this is possible.

#13 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-05 01:06 AM | Reply

"It's EXACTLY what the article says."

You're cherry-picking from the article and the sentence you chose was quite a bit of editorializing in a supposed straight news-piece.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-05 01:08 AM | Reply

"Not enforcing a trans child gender affirming restriction law that doesnt exist.

Won't enforce an abortion ban when abortion is in the Fl Constitution.

Republicans are scum

#9 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2022-08-04 06:18 PM | FLAG: "

You are woefully ignorant.

It's kinda sad.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-05 01:20 AM | Reply

Who does this guy ultimately report to?

The electorate.

In all seriousness, how is this possible?

The Florida constitution.

The article provides the info y'all didn't care to know.

More here. reason.com

#16 | Posted by et_al at 2022-08-05 03:21 AM | Reply

Who does this guy ultimately report to?

The electorate.

In all seriousness, how is this possible?

The Florida constitution.

The article provides the info y'all didn't care to know.

More here. reason.com

#17 | Posted by et_al at 2022-08-05 03:21 AM | Reply

Here is Warren addressing some of the allegations levied against him by DeSantis: twitter.com

Seems that in Warren's recitation, Florida's current anti-abortion law has been deemed unconstitutional by the courts, so in fact he IS upholding the current laws as they pertain to abortion.

He also cites a number of other DeSantis' orders and/or Florida laws which courts have deemed unconstitutional or laws that aren't even in effect as of yet, which DeSantis listed as discretionary reasons for Warren's removal.

Basically, it looks like the ultimate decision maker in this case will be the Florida court system.

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-05 06:47 AM | Reply

Statement from Andrew Warren:

"Today's political stunt is an illegal overreach that continues a dangerous pattern by Ron DeSantis of using his office to further his own political ambition. It spits in the face of the voters of Hillsborough County who have twice elected me to serve them, not Ron DeSantis. In our community, crime is low, our Constitutional rights - including the right to privacy - are being upheld, and the people have the right to elect their own leaders - not have them dictated by an aspiring presidential candidate who has shown time and again he feels accountable to no one.

Just because the governor violates your rights, it doesn't mean they don't exist."

Nikki Fried, who is running for governor, released a statement criticizing the decision by DeSantis. It said:
"This is a politically motivated attack on a universally respected State Attorney democratically elected to exercise prosecutorial discretion. Ron DeSantis is a pathetic bully. He's doing this because he wants to be dictator, not a governor of Florida. That's not how this works, though. This will backfire. We just saw it in Kansas. Florida is a pro-choice, pro-democracy state. If this stands, the people of Florida will put an end to it in November."

www.baynews9.com


#19 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-05 07:01 AM | Reply

The 15-week abortion ban has been struck down by a Judge as violating the FL Constitution, which has an express right to privacy, unlike the Fed. Warren is following the law in FL as it stands today. Desantis is trying to remove an elected official for following current FL law.

Ron Filipkowski

#20 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-05 07:09 AM | Reply

DeSantis is a fascist, pure and simple, and he's unapologetic about it. Heaven help us all if he's the GOP nomination for President of the United States.

The "Reason" article is, like so many of their articles, pure garbage. I can't believe Et Al tried to pass that nonsense off as legitimate legal reasoning.

Tony's got it right. The Florida Constitution specifically grants a right to privacy, like Kansas, and Warren is 100% correct in what the law states.

DeSantis is way out of line on this. Way out of line.

Here's a great write-up from Florida, from Tampa Bay Times editorial about all this:
Gov. Ron DeSantis' suspension Thursday of Hillsborough State Attorney Andrew Warren was politically craven, legally suspect, suspiciously timed and odorously soaked in autocracy, partisanship and bad faith " in other words, completely in keeping with this governor's behavior.
www.tampabay.com

#21 | Posted by YAV at 2022-08-05 08:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

More" The governor's 10-page order is a political smear job, full of what-ifs and supposition that would be laughed out of court.

The Republican governor accused Warren, a Democrat, of putting himself "above the law" by signing statements that he would not enforce laws prohibiting gender-affirming care for minors or laws limiting abortion. No matter that Florida has no such gender-affirming law for Warren to prosecute " or not prosecute. Warren joined 91 other attorneys general and district attorneys around the country in signing a statement in June declaring they would "decline" to prosecute "reproductive health decisions." But DeSantis cited no example of Warren having declined to prosecute an actual case. Who gets punished for acts they don't commit?

Still, the governor cites no case that Warren mishandled, making his suspension a preemptive strike. That's an egregious overreach, and one that should scare Republicans, Democrats, independents and anyone concerned with due process and the separation of powers."

DuhSantis, the same low-life tinpot despot that got so bent out of shape he had to berate high school kids for wearing masks in the middle of a pandemic. This man has to GO.

#22 | Posted by YAV at 2022-08-05 08:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Basically, it looks like the ultimate decision maker in this case will be the Florida court system.

No, apparently it will be the Peoples' Politburo (Florida Senate) which will adjudicate whether Warren's removal is justified under the statutes DeSantis claims.

24 Republicans and 16 Democrats. Anybody want to make book on the outcome?

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-05 09:00 AM | Reply

Let's see,

This clown didn't do his job, and also defied the legislative body...

Yep, got his ass fired. But this somehow makes DeSantis the devil.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-08-05 09:59 AM | Reply

Did you guys even read the linked article?

It spells out how DeSantis has the power to do this.

I get disagreeing with his decision, even vehemently so. But you people really need to tone it down with the WAY over-use of "fascist". When everything is fascist, nothing is fascist.

You all act like a Republican governor has ZERO legitimate power and has no right exerting ANY kind of powers at all, unless it's pushing some leftist favored policy.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-05 10:00 AM | Reply

It spells out how DeSantis has the power to do this.

No one is saying that he doesn't have the power to do this. What is plainly obvious for anyone with common sense (excluding you of course Bell) is that the reasons DeSantis gave for removing Warren are things that he hasn't done or can't even do under current Florida law!

Current Florida law does not restrict abortion after 15 weeks. Current Florida law does not have any restrictions upon gender-affirming care for minors. Florida's constitution grants citizens an expressed right to privacy. How can Warren be derelict when he's upholding the laws that DeSantis just doesn't like?

DeSantis did not cite one single case that Warren has refused to prosecute. The reality is that DeSantis is trying to remove Warren for faithfully following specific laws that DeSantis is trying to have overturned or new ones codified. DeSantis is removing Warren because he's expressed vocal opposition to what DeSantis intends to do, so Warren is guilty of nothing but publicly opposing DeSantis in support of his own constituency who elected him precisely because of the views he espouses.

DeSantis is trying to remove a duly-elected, political opponent for reasons that aren't justified under his statutory authority to do so.

#26 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-05 10:35 AM | Reply

I hope they frog-marched this Communist sack of ---- out of his own office and threw his ass in jail for abrogating his oath of office.

#27 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-08-05 04:49 PM | Reply

I hope they frog-marched this Communist sack of ---- out of his own office and threw his ass in jail for abrogating his oath of office.

#27 | Posted by Mao_Content

Funny how I never see you say that about trump.

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-05 04:54 PM | Reply

This clown didn't do his job, and also defied the legislative body...

Yep, got his ass fired. But this somehow makes DeSantis the devil.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds

So does what do you want to happen to every prosecutor who's not throwing people for ------ in the 16 states where it's still illegal?

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-05 04:56 PM | Reply

Funny how that "local control" mantra only applies when the locals do what the autocrat wants.

#30 | Posted by morris at 2022-08-05 07:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#27 .... I hope they frog-marched this Communist sack of ---- out of his own office and threw his ass in jail for abrogating his oath of office. ...

Exactly how did he violate his oath of office? Gov DeSantis was unable to show any evidence that he did.

So, what evidence do you have that he did?

#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-05 07:34 PM | Reply

I'm liberal to the bone and don't like DeSantis but how would you expect a conservative governor to act? He's solidifying his base. And this is shocking!!!

#32 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2022-08-06 06:33 AM | Reply

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