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Sunday, August 07, 2022

Danielle Kurtzleben: I went to Wisconsin in June to report on how abortion rights are affecting the Senate and governor primaries - the idea was to do one story on the Democrats and one on the Republicans.

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Wotta surprise...LOL!

#1 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-08-07 12:01 PM | Reply

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#2 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-08-07 12:05 PM | Reply

Freedom of the press is just another right conservatives will eliminate.

A good dictatorship can't function with the press reporting the truth.

Just ask Xi, Kim, or Putin

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-07 12:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

A cockroach can't stand the light either. I can equate that to Republicans.

But there is a cure. Stop giving them power at the voting booth.

It can't be that hard if a bunch of women can do it in Kansas.

#4 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-07 01:54 PM | Reply

Every candidate who is behind in their races will stick their ugly mug in front of any TV camera pointed in their general direction. They need the press.

Hey NPR, CNN or any other middle to left news organization: want to get GOP candidates on your shows? Set aside X minutes of programming for them and their Dem opponent, send out invitations by overnight mail, email, Twitter and by phone. In the invite tell both candidates that the one who shows up gets the time set aside for their opponent if that person doesn't participate. You will get full participation ...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2022-08-07 02:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Twin-that could be a tall order. On the chance the repubs don't take either chamber back, there's the issue of "who" in 2024. There's no dynamic, moderate Dem to run for office. If Biden runs, we're sunk, despite his great record. My wife & I went full-time in an RV in the fall of 2013, and have lived in AZ and CO mostly but usually moving around. Last year we did a 7 month, 16 state, 9000 mile road trip all through rural country. From Arizona to Washington to Minnesota then Missouri, Colorado and back to Arizona. It's solidly trump country-not one Biden sign, sticker etc. anywhere. It will be one h*ll of an uphill battle I'm afraid.

#6 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2022-08-07 02:49 PM | Reply

FDR let reporters see he used a wheelchair and left it up to their conscious what they chose to write about him.

some praised him some criticized but for a thousand reasons they didn't write much if anything about his health.

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2022-08-07 02:56 PM | Reply

Republicants are gutless -------.

#8 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-08-07 07:28 PM | Reply

"La La La, I Can't Hear You!"
--GOP, especially when it comes to women

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-07 07:54 PM | Reply

Ignoring reality always ends ugly.

www.youtube.com

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2022-08-07 08:21 PM | Reply

YODAGIRL

I can appreciate your road trip observations, having done a three year long grand tour of the west myself ~ but for different reasons. My case was more of always wondering what was over the next hill . . . or, as my mother called it, the wonderlust.

Anyway, educational as both our experience was, the one thing that eludes us in politics is what we can't see happening deep in the bowels of either political party, things that have nothing to do with our day-by-day drive-by assumptions. That's the one place where we all fall short.

My hope (and it's only a hope) is that the Democrat Party is well aware of President Biden's ability to finish out a second term. I also hope they aren't thinking about breaking the glass ceiling with Harris. It appears to me that the Democrat Party is leaning more to setting a very positive stage for the easy entry of a Democrat candidate other than Joe Biden.

#11 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-07 09:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Twin and Yoda

No party in US history has had a sitting President with eligibility step down from office and then retain the White House. It simply has never happened. Unless Joe Biden suffers a health setback or a real cognitive decline, he is the only Democrat who can win in 2024 - just like he was the only Democrat who could have won in 2020.

We keep losing sight of the fact that Biden is not going to be running against a candidate who will unite America, he'll be running against a candidate promising to tear it apart along with most of the civilized world.

The contrast that Biden made versus Trump in 2020 is only becoming more stark by the day. Biden is the most likely person to bring otherwise squishy whites along precisely because he speaks directly to them in a way other Dems (outside Tim Ryan) cannot.

I'm just calling it like I see it, but if Biden is forced to step away when he isn't ready, it's going to be 1968 all over again. And you know how that ended, right?

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-07 09:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Get Michelle Obama to run and we win easily. Otherwise, it's probably prez Deathsentence in 2024.

#13 | Posted by byrdman at 2022-08-07 09:59 PM | Reply

NPR is going to bitch about a lack of media access after the Biden basement campaign and his take no questions presidency??

That's rich. It's refreshing to see that the GOP is avoiding interviews with Ron Klain wearing a Wolf Blitzer mask.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-07 10:12 PM | Reply

I've only seen Biden not take questions twice, and I've watched him take questions dozens of times. You just flat make ---- up these days, don't you?
I googled "biden refuses to take questions" and it does seem to be a meme the right-wing is pushing, though. Maybe you're just unaware that you're being lied to?

Reality doesn't agree with that "doesn't take questions" --------, though.

#15 | Posted by YAV at 2022-08-07 10:19 PM | Reply

And seriously, what a pathetic "whataboutism" that was. Jeezus.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2022-08-07 10:19 PM | Reply

That's a lot of ifs, TONY.

I hope the Democrat Party is thinking further ahead than 2024.

#17 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-07 11:10 PM | Reply

Stacy Abrams gave us Georgia.

I can only imagine what she could do on a national level.

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2022-08-07 11:34 PM | Reply

I'd love to see Val Demings beat Rubio and then try to break that highest glass ceiling:

FLORIDA IS IN PLAY "

New polling from
@ProgressFlorida
and
@floridawatch
shows a dead heat in the race for U.S. Senate

@valdemings
and
@marcorubio
tied at 45%, according to poll released exclusively to
@Fla_Pol

twitter.com

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-08-08 12:26 AM | Reply

They're as gullible as Russians who're being told Russia didn't "invade Ukraine," and suck up ever lie.

#20 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-08-08 01:35 AM | Reply

Twinpac--Democrat Party? So you're a lying rightwing nut?

#21 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-08-08 05:24 AM | Reply

I'll just ignore that RJSQUIRREL @ #21 and put you on my list of dumb people who don't look before they leap.

#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-08 06:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12

Tony, while I don't disagree with your assessment I would love to see a new generation step into office. Since 1992 Boomers have been president (although you could argue that Biden is so old he's not a boomer) Frankly I can understand why you don't see young democrats motivated to vote when their choices keep being from the same generation that spawned the OK boomer meme.

I just looked at ballotpedia's list of every democrat that has been mentioned by the media as a possible candidate.

15/28 Boomer
11/28 Gen Z
2/28 Millennial

53.5% from a generation who's youngest members will be eligible for SS before the 2024 term ends.
If you look at the top 10 likely it's 60% boomer, 20% gen z, 20% millennial.

Nothing against Biden he has been a pretty solid president all things considered. There is a reason there are generational divides, life experience and where most people are in their life. People at retirement age are not focused on or usually even aware of the issues of people starting their journey in life are facing.

#23 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2022-08-08 08:03 AM | Reply

"People at retirement age are not focused on or usually even aware of the issues of people starting their journey in life are facing."

Bingo. Even more so if they are relatively wealthy and have been for decades.

#24 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-08-08 08:24 AM | Reply

I don't disagree with anything you've said Tao. But the political reality here in the US is that older people vote while younger people talk about voting. Only one group can be counted on to show up election after election, namely because older Americans receive their income and health insurance from the Federal government.

And let me point out another fact far too often ignored: Those with long-term experience and institutional knowledge of how DC works get far more things done than novices. For both better and worse, both Obama and Biden have gotten things done because of Pelosi and Schumer. I too see the end for both of them in leadership and a new era about to emerge, but having a lot of energy and advocating great ideas alone doesn't make policy happen. All the behind the scenes horsetrading and compromises - many built from decades-long friendships, some across the political divide - don't happen when relationships haven't first been established and a level of trust is developed between sides.

The greatest issue facing this next generation of would-be congressional leadership is the extreme polarization of the GOP and its complete belief that all Democrats are illegitimate and their politics harmful to the nation regardless of the truth largely being the opposite. There are no young Republicans to work with anymore who aren't MAGAts or loons.

Whomever steps into the humongous shoes of Pelosi will most likely - at least at the start - disappear into the shadow of her immense legacy as one of the most consequential Speakers of all time. And for all the times Yertle McConnell has totally pantsed the Democrats, at least yesterday Schumer and Manchin played him like a Charlie Daniel's fiddle in passing the IRA, nee BBB-lite.

There are very good reasons our congressional houses determine many leadership roles and committee assignments based on seniority. Experience is a very good thing to have in actually making the enormous leviathan called the US Government function towards the ends you desire.

#25 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-08 08:31 AM | Reply

#25

That's way too much apologetics for my taste. They just don't appreciate the urgency of the need to fix these problems even when they're willing to give lip service to them. At least I don't see that kind of fight in them because win or lose, those politicians and their grandchildren will still be fine.

#26 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-08-08 08:41 AM | Reply

#25

I agree with you about experience Tony however I see it as plausible that a younger candidate with fresh ideas could run and chose older advisors to bring a hard hitting combination of fresh ideas and the experience to move them forward. I also wonder how much young voter turn out is suppressed by the view that they don't feel represented by their geriatric options? I don't know for sure but as a parent of 1 millennial and 2 gen-z kids who takes the time to talk to their kids and their friends about issues that concern them I know of several millennials who didn't vote because they don't feel that they will be represented regardless of the winner.

#24

Even more so if they are relatively wealthy and have been for decades.

I have often thought that the reason anti-poverty measures have usually failed is because the people passing them have no clue what poverty looks like so how can they really know what is needed to fix it. Having gone from flat broke to middle to upper middle class I could probably come up with many measures that would fight poverty far more effectively that anything the government has tried. However the odds of me winning any office are slim to none and I'm pretty sure slim already left town. I don't have enough money to run, I never finished college and I was on food stamps. I would be torn apart in an election.

#27 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2022-08-08 08:48 AM | Reply

#27

You've identified the problem with youth and their lack of institutional knowledge: Things take a very long time to happen within a government built to function with checks and balances. And when you top that off with the diversity of opinion all across America - and the lies and misinformation trafficked in by the GOP - I don't care who is in leadership, they're not going to make the opposition support policies through the force of their personality.

And the electoral reality of being a Democrat is that the caucus is very diverse, from extremely progressive down to conservative Democrats a little more than Republican-lite. You have to get everyone on the same page even though constituencies within the Democratic sphere can be on opposite sides of important issues.

Republicans are largely monolithic or they can count on outlier moderates to toe the line on even some of their most egregious policies. Dems are like feral cats, all wanting what they want immediately without regard for what others may want differently. Trying to lead Democrats is like herding these cats, and I don't see where AOC or anyone else in the caucus given or earning a leadership position would get anything more passed than the current leadership has.

Again, just my observations. Barack Obama and Joe Biden have now held the presidency for a combined 9 and 1/2 years. They've had congressional majorities for 3 1/2 years and Obama had a filibuster-proof Senate for less than 8 months. Look at what's been accomplished over the staunch objection of the GOP - multiple landmark legislative victories, largely because of reconciliation. Has it been everything that's needed? Of course not, but it's far more the Republicans wanted Democrats to do regardless of this nation's unmet needs.

#28 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-08-08 09:21 AM | Reply

-You have to get everyone on the same page even though constituencies within the Democratic sphere can be on opposite sides of important issues.

What important issues are the democrats finding themselves on opposite sides of?

#29 | Posted by eberly at 2022-08-08 09:41 AM | Reply

TWINPAC

Please stop with the dittohead BS. It's "Democratic Party." You sound like you're posting on Alex Jones' comment section.

#30 | Posted by chuffy at 2022-08-08 10:08 AM | Reply

Nonsense CHUFFY

I'm just looking ahead at how Biden's age can and will be used effectively against him in 2024 in the most and cruel and merciless ways imaginable.

Being President of the United State is the most grueling job in the world and it takes an enormous mental toll of every man who has ever held the job. Therefore, I am genuinely worried about a second term for President Biden.

BTW, I looked it up. You are correct. It's the Democratic Party. Thank you for the correction. I won't make that mistake again.

#31 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-08 10:58 AM | Reply

I wasn't addressing your comments about Biden's age, just the "democRat PaRty" epithet. It's the sort of thing that creeps into conversations and eventually gets normalized...

Biden is old. He's also in good shape. Let's see what Biden wants to do. Time catches up with all of us.

#32 | Posted by chuffy at 2022-08-08 12:08 PM | Reply

All he got done while having COVID showed he's nothing like the -------- caricature the right tries to paint.

#33 | Posted by YAV at 2022-08-08 12:12 PM | Reply

Title is insufficient as should read 'left leaning, pro-dem legacy media.

#34 | Posted by MSgt at 2022-08-08 01:36 PM | Reply

I just looked at ballotpedia's list of every democrat that has been mentioned by the media as a possible candidate.
15/28 Boomer
11/28 Gen Z
2/28 Millennial

^
What is up with Gen X just not existing in people's consciousness?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-08 03:16 PM | Reply

Oh maybe you meant Gen X. I think the Zoomers are a little too young for political office still.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-08 03:17 PM | Reply

#36

I did in fact mean gen x. Sorry for the confusion I shouldn't post before I finish my first cup of joe.

#37 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2022-08-08 03:36 PM | Reply

Gas prices have gone down. Nobody likes to talk about the formula shortage anymore, mostly because it was solved under Biden's watch. Just passed the IRA, Al Zawahiri is dead, lowest lowest unemployment rate ever, chips bill, PACT Act...while he had Covid AND a 50/50 Senate.

Let's not forget the Infrastructure bill, Covid Relief and gun control legislation...explain to me one more time what an abject failure the guy is. I'm not seeing it. The "liberal media" sure has done a s**t job of promoting the most successful president of my lifetime.

#38 | Posted by chuffy at 2022-08-08 08:50 PM | Reply

Truth to them is like daylight to a vampire... or going out for "Italian" for a werewolf.

#39 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-08-09 03:54 AM | Reply

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