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"Trump talking about 'planted' evidence means he knows there is something damning they found," ex-prosecutor says

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"Bobb said that she was not allowed to observe the search, as is common during such FBI operations. But Trump and his lawyers have seized on that fact to push a conspiracy theory that the FBI may have "planted" something without providing any evidence to support their claims.

Defense attorney Ken White noted that forbidding anyone from observing their searches is standard practice.

"Law enforcement does not let anyone, including lawyers, observe what they're doing during searches," he wrote.

"They typically remove everyone from the searched area. This has always been the case. This is the latest 'it's an outrage when the typical happens to me.'".

Former federal prosecutor Michael Stern suggested that TrumpWorld is trotting out the claim because the FBI may have found damaging evidence at his home.

"I have written hundreds of search warrants. Lawyers and people whose homes are being searched are routinely not present during the search," he wrote.

"That Trump is now talking about 'planted' evidence means he knows there is something damning they found."
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The thread link shows this is all over Fox Gnus now... Rand Paul, Nutty Newty, et al.

Stern is right, though. Donald's Backpack Theory is a pre-emptive strike to counter evidence he knows they must have found.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-10 04:00 PM | Reply

@#1 ... Trump and his lawyers have seized on that fact to push a conspiracy theory that the FBI may have "planted" something without providing any evidence to support their claims. ...

What about the informant? Is the informant in on this conspiracy?

Funny how the Trump team is moving away from their prior "baseless and political" diatribes when they saw those assertions were not working.

After they find out this assertion isn't working, what will be their next tactic?

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-10 04:06 PM | Reply

"...what will be their next tactic?"

Obviously, it musta been th' informant what planted th' evidence...

#3 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-08-10 05:02 PM | Reply

@#3 ... Obviously, it musta been th' informant what planted th' evidence... ...

But the storage space was padlocked (at the prodding of the DoJ, btw).

Surely fmr Pres Trump's security team controlled access to the key, and has records of who may have entered that secure area?


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-10 05:06 PM | Reply

Sounds like Trump's lawyers know the FBI found things that will destroy trump.

I'm 90% sure there will be a sex tape.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2022-08-10 05:13 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by LampLighter

You're using logic and common sense.

That ---- won't fly.

#6 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-08-10 05:19 PM | Reply

Or rather "flush"...

#7 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-08-10 05:22 PM | Reply

I wonder if they found any material Trump could have been using to blackmail his fellow Republicans? That seems like the kind of thing Trump would have squirrelled away in his safe if he had it.

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-08-10 05:48 PM | Reply

GAL

Knowing Trump, nothing can be discounted. But the smart money seems to be on Trump using classified information to give the Kremlin an advantage over the United States in the spy game, military operations and planning, advanced weaponry, advances in space technology . . . or dozens of other things that would give Russia a leg up.

Trump has always been motivated by revenge . . . none more so than the United States tossing him aside in 2020. He'll never forgive that to his dying day.

I know how trite that sounds to us normals. But Trump isn't normal. Mentally, he's damaged goods, so to speak, who would stop at nothing to satisfy his need for revenge. In my opinion, he's consumed by it every single day. It's a fire in his gut.

#9 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-10 07:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Knowing Trump, nothing can be discounted. But the smart money seems to be on Trump using classified information to give the Kremlin an advantage over the United States in the spy game, military operations and planning, advanced weaponry, advances in space technology . . . or dozens of other things that would give Russia a leg up."

Yes, I agree with you. I was just wondering what else he might have in his safe besides the classified info he intended to hand over to our enemies.

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-08-10 07:08 PM | Reply

If Trump's people had any evidence of FBI misconduct, they'd be filing it in court petitions to stop them, says @BradMossEsq:

You Can't Play the Cable-News Game in Court

Q: Do you see any significance in the fact that Trump hasn't made public the warrant that he must have received, which would presumably list what the FBI was after and what it took from Mar-a-Lago?

A: This is the scam that Trump runs. By concealing the actual documentation, he and his allies can portray the whole situation however they want. They can throw innuendo and accusation out there; they can do everything they can to rev up their base. Their media allies, especially on Fox, OANN, and Newsmax, were all over the place with every wild accusation under the sun. And here's the thing. If any of those accusations that we're hearing from Trump lawyers had a modicum of merit, there would've been emergency motions for temporary restraining orders to enjoin the FBI from going through everything; there would've been motions to suppress the warrant itself. This is what actual lawyers with credible arguments would be doing right now, not going on TV and leveling innuendo and accusations. But because they don't have anything to really rely on, they don't take that step. As people like Sidney Powell and her team of crack lawyers have learned, you can't play the cable-news game in court.


nymag.com

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-08-10 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

- they'd be filing it in court petitions to stop them

The only lawyer dumb enough to file such base-less petitions is Rudy G., and he's a little too busy these days trying to stay out of court/prison.

Ya gotta love the legal system when it actually werks.

And the Media system is broken all to ---- on the political right. Law by political media narrative is no law at all.

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-10 07:29 PM | Reply

GAL

My guess would be anything that would incriminate him, personally. That would be his #1 priority.

Lord knows he's got plenty to worry about in that department. There's lots of possibilities.

Trump's also been known to keep the passports of his foreign-born staff members at Mar-a-Lago so they can't run off . . . or worst yet, be deported for disloyalty. One staff member who managed to escape a few years ago told the press that the staff lived in fear of him and his moods.

#13 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-10 07:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Crazy people believe conspirasy theories.

Watching people engage in conspiracy theories is funny to me.

#14 | Posted by jamesgelliott at 2022-08-10 07:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I can't hardly wait for the Trump Kid's books, written from prison, about what a monster their father really has been all of their lives, to them and everyone else he can bully.

Prolly written be useful at their parole hearings.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-10 07:59 PM | Reply

Crazy people believe conspirasy theories.

Watching people engage in conspiracy theories is funny to me.

#14 | Posted by jamesgelliott

The republican party is now literally no more than a bunch of conspiracy spouting morons. They stand for nothing else but conspiracy theories. Idiotic ones at that.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-10 08:27 PM | Reply

Feds likely obtained 'pulverizing' amount of evidence ahead of searching Trump's Mar-a-Lago home, legal experts say

Regardless of the raid's focus, legal experts quickly reached a consensus about it: A pile of evidence must have backed up the warrant authorizing the search.

"There's every reason to think that there's a plus factor in the quantum and quantity of evidence that the government already had to support probable cause in this case, knowing that they would be besieged with criticism in some quarters that this is politically motivated," said David Laufman, a former top official in the Justice Department's national security division who prosecuted cases involving allegations of mishandling classified documents.

"If I were a senior department official who reviewed this prior to pulling the trigger on presenting an affidavit to a magistrate judge, I would've wanted a sufficient quality and quantity of evidence that was so pulverizing in its effect to simply neutralize any arguments to the contrary," said Laufman, now a partner at the law firm Wiggin and Dana LLP.

"I cannot imagine the amount of probable cause set forth in a search warrant's supporting FBI affidavit of Trump's Florida home," said Gene Rossi, a former federal prosecutor from Northern Virginia. He added in an email to Insider that the number of "review levels" for the search warrant "must have been enormous, including by Trump's FBI appointee Christopher Wray."


www.businessinsider.com

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-08-10 08:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People are asking how many kids did they find in trump's basement?

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2022-08-10 08:46 PM | Reply

#14 | Posted by jamesgelliott

LOL!

Yer a conservative, right?

#19 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-08-10 08:49 PM | Reply

Republicans aren't freaking out because they believe evidence was planted.

They're freaking out because they know he is guilty.

Poetic justice is the fact that Donnie fail signed the law that increased the penalties for theft of classified documents from one to five years.

#20 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-08-10 08:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People are asking how many kids did they find in trump's basement?

Only Eric.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-08-10 08:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

Donald's Conspiracy Theory: FBI 'Planted' Evidence

How convenient. Just like the big lie.

#22 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-08-10 10:34 PM | Reply

Other things they might have found in Trumps safe could be log books of names, dates and amounts of cash money he received but did not report on his tax returns or campaign disclosure statements.

Or an address book of names, phone numbers and notes about his mob associates.

Or memorabilia (photos) of the fun times he had on Jeffrey Epstein's island.

Or his pre-nup agreement with Melania.

Any or all are possibilities. Things he wouldn't want known.

#23 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-10 11:04 PM | Reply

Things he wouldn't want known.

The things his Obama birth certificate investigators couldn't believe they were finding in Hawaii?

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-08-10 11:32 PM | Reply

Never thought of that, REDIAL.

But as long as we're being silly . . .

Whatever happened to those guys anyway. Did they cash in their return ticket and stay in paradise? Or did the FBI find two mysterious boxes in the safe marked "urns."

Dead men don't tell tales.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-11 04:34 AM | Reply

Admit Nothing
Deny Everything
Demand Evidence
Make Counter-Accusations

The Guilty Bastard's playbook

#26 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-08-11 10:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Watching people engage in conspiracy theories is funny to me.

#14 | Posted by jamesgelliott

It used to be funny. But it's not funny to me anymore.

Unfortunately when they are allowed to go unchecked or unchallenged they can end very badly as they did in the Jan 6th attempted insurrection at our US Capitol.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-08-11 12:48 PM | Reply

Coup attempts just are rhe opposite of funny.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2022-08-11 04:26 PM | Reply

And now one of his disciples, Ricky Shiff, is dead in Ohio because he was stupid enough to believe Trump's lies. Just like Ashli Bobbitt. Died for a con.

#29 | Posted by cbob at 2022-08-11 06:38 PM | Reply

"Just like Ashli Bobbitt."

Babbitt, not Bobbitt. Bobbitt was the one who ... did something unspeakable.

#30 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-08-11 09:00 PM | Reply

"People are asking how many kids did they find in trump's basement?"
"Only Eric."

What about Tiffany?

#31 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-08-11 09:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It is almost like some people what doubt in every level of gov. Hmmm, are there any countries that want us to think this way?

#32 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-08-12 04:14 AM | Reply

Only Eric.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL

Poor Tiffany has been down there so long you've forgotten about her.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2022-08-12 07:48 AM | Reply

Poor Tiffany has been down there so long you've forgotten about her.

I always thought they kept her in The Tower.

#34 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-08-12 10:20 AM | Reply

"Just like Ashli Bobbitt."
Babbitt, not Bobbitt. Bobbitt was the one who ... did something unspeakable.

#30 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

My great grandmother years ago asked a very important question about Bobbitt... "Did the woman not have a garbage disposal?"

#35 | Posted by Sycophant at 2022-08-12 11:03 AM | Reply

Eric Trump confirmed in an interview with the Daily Mail that staff refused to turn off the security cameras and that he was able to view video of the raid. He also claimed in the interview that the FBI "would not give her a copy of the search warrant" even though Bobb acknowledged that she received it.

So, how could the FBI plant the evidence if Eric Trump watched the raid??? Riddle me that GQP! LOL

#36 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-08-12 03:05 PM | Reply

" So, how could the FBI plant the evidence if Eric Trump watched the raid??? Riddle me that GQP! LOL

#36 | POSTED BY ENLIGHTENED AT 2022-08-12 03:05 PM | FLAG: "

If they were to do that it would be done at FBI headquarters - claim something damning in those boxes that wasn't actually in any of the boxes they confiscated from their raid.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-08-12 03:26 PM | Reply

Babbitt, not Bobbitt. Bobbitt was the one who ... did something unspeakable.

#30 | POSTED BY SENTINEL AT 2022-08-11 09:00 PM | FLAG:

You say Babbitt, I say Bobbitt
Let's cut the whole thing off

#38 | Posted by cbob at 2022-08-12 07:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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