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Friday, August 12, 2022

Antarctica is home to 90% of the world's freshwater, trapped in the continent's massive ice sheets -- and the stability of much of that ice is seriously at risk from global warming.

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"The key conclusion from our work is that if we can satisfy the Paris Climate Agreement, we can almost certainly avoid a major sea-level contribution from East Antarctica," said Stokes.

"Hence, I think that amongst all of the doomsday stories that we hear about, our study at least offers some hope that we have a small window of opportunity over the next few decades to protect this ice sheet. As we conclude in the paper: the fate of the world's largest ice sheet is very much in our hands."

While these two papers deal with different scenarios, the message is clear: seriously curbing warming is crucial to helping us keep all above water."

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-12 03:44 PM | Reply

I'm not sure how much interest this will generate right now.

"The key conclusion from our work is that if we can satisfy the Paris Climate Agreement, we can almost certainly avoid a major sea-level contribution from East Antarctica"

I'll bite......

Who is "we" and what stands in the way of satisfying the Paris Climate Agreement?

#2 | Posted by eberly at 2022-08-12 04:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

That's pretty funny, Eb.

Tell us another one....

www.forbes.com

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-12 04:25 PM | Reply

so sound bytes from republicans who claim it's a job killer isn't surprising...but it doesn't answer my question.

If you don't know just say so.

#4 | Posted by eberly at 2022-08-12 04:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

- republicans

By George, I think he got it!

See, miracles DO happen.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-12 04:31 PM | Reply

Related?

The Arctic Is Warming Four Times Faster Than the Rest of the Planet
www.scientificamerican.com

...One study after another is coming to the same conclusion: the Arctic is heating up much faster than earlier research suggested...


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 08:39 PM | Reply

If you don't know just say so.

#4 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2022-08-12 04:30 PM | FLAG:

- republicans

By George, I think he got it!

If eberly doesn't know then he is being purposely obtuse (again).

Not a single republican supported the IRA which was just passed by democrats and included climate protections.

So it should be obvious to everyone by now who is standing in the way ...

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-08-12 08:46 PM | Reply

Related?

Germany: Rhine water levels expected to drop even further
www.dw.com

...German authorities are bracing for further shipping disruptions due to low levels in busy waterways.

The Federal Institute of Hydrology (BfG) has forecast that water levels in the Rhine River will continue dropping until the beginning of next week.

BfG expert Bastian Klein told Germany's dpa press agency that shallow-draft barges can pass through the Middle Rhine in levels as low as 30 to 35 centimeters. But, by next week, levels at the Kaub gauge, the most important water level measurement station in the Middle Rhine, could slip to 30 centimeters, potentially bringing traffic to a standstill.

The Kaub gauge is located around 50 kilometers downstream from the city of Mainz.

Fully loaded ships generally need a level of at least about 1.5 meters, but a persistent lack of rain and high temperatures have led to low water levels.

Barges on the Rhine " which carry critical supplies for German industrial giants and coal for power plants " are already being loaded at just one-quarter to one-half capacity, to keep them higher in the water. ...


Of course, might the melting ice in Antarctica raise the levels of the Rhine? Quickly enough to assuage this year's crisis? But, then, what might Miami be facing? I once looked at a topological map of Florida, and I was amazed how many miles inland I had to go to attain any significant manner of "ground level above sea level."



#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 08:46 PM | Reply

If you don't know just say so.

#4 | POSTED BY EBERLY

If you don't care just say so.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-08-12 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

On a related note:

One of my cousins, a manager for the Bureau of Land Management, lived and worked in Alaska 20+ years ago. He spent time there again a few years ago. As part of his job he flew all over the state during the week. Said the difference between what he saw on a weekly basis 20 years ago and his last time was profound and the evidence of climate change very clear. No ice where there had been, shrunken glaciers, melting permafrost, etc etc etc.

#10 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-08-12 08:59 PM | Reply

@#10

Yup, that's been widely documented.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 09:31 PM | Reply

Duh. Smart people told us this 40 years ago.

Instead we listened to republican liars and let them block any action for decades.

So owned by oil and stupidity that they'd burn down their own home.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-12 10:09 PM | Reply

#2 | Posted by eberly

LOL!

What a fuggin ------.

#13 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-08-12 10:25 PM | Reply

@#12 ... Instead we listened to republican liars ...

To be ore correct, from what I understand, it was Big Oil that first proffered the hoax. And for some reason (campaign donations?) they were able to convince Republicans to go along with the lie.

Here's a start, an interesting start...

The Ideology of Climate Change Denial in the United States
journals.openedition.org

...The concerted effort to discredit the scientific consensus over man-made global warming has been continuing for two decades in the United States, and shows no sign of weakening. It is very often described as an attempt on the part of corporate America, most notably the fossil fuel industries, to hinder governmental regulations on their activities....

YMMV and all that...

But then there's this song...

Ten Wheel Drive - Morning Much Better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLi7xqDHehY


:)



#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 10:25 PM | Reply

(with better formatting..)

@#12 ... Instead we listened to republican liars ...

To be ore correct, from what I understand, it was Big Oil that first proffered the hoax. And for some reason (campaign donations?) they were able to convince Republicans to go along with the lie.

Here's a start, an interesting start...

The Ideology of Climate Change Denial in the United States
journals.openedition.org

...The concerted effort to discredit the scientific consensus over man-made global warming has been continuing for two decades in the United States, and shows no sign of weakening. It is very often described as an attempt on the part of corporate America, most notably the fossil fuel industries, to hinder governmental regulations on their activities....

YMMV and all that...


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 10:26 PM | Reply

(third time the charm...)

(but, wow.... )

@#12 ... Instead we listened to republican liars ...

To be ore correct, from what I understand, it was Big Oil that first proffered the hoax. And for some reason (campaign donations?) they were able to convince Republicans to go along with the lie.

Here's a start, an interesting start...

The Ideology of Climate Change Denial in the United States
journals.openedition.org

...The concerted effort to discredit the scientific consensus over man-made global warming has been continuing for two decades in the United States, and shows no sign of weakening. It is very often described as an attempt on the part of corporate America, most notably the fossil fuel industries, to hinder governmental regulations on their activities....

YMMV and all that...


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 10:28 PM | Reply

#11 | Posted by LampLighter

If he ever had any doubts about climate change, that last stint cured him of it.

He's also a staunch Democrat now, and that was before January 6th, which created a chasm between him and his mom, a staunch, Bible thumping evangelical, voted-for-Trump-twice hypocrite.

#17 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-08-13 12:03 AM | Reply

Time and again we are seeing just this - melting is happening faster than anticipated. Antarctica, Greenland, Siberia, etc.

Hint, hint - we racing to toward global calamity faster than the scientist are predicting.

#18 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-08-13 12:38 AM | Reply

Who is "we" and what stands in the way of satisfying the Paris Climate Agreement?
#2 | POSTED BY EBERLY

It's you.
All you Republicans stand in the way of Paris.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-13 12:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's nice to see Eberly has taken up Goatman's role as Climate Change Know-Nothing.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-13 12:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Antarctica is home to 90% of the world's freshwater"

This is a win win or for the Southwest and LA.

#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-08-13 10:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#21 You're stupid, but your Los Angeles reference did remind me of this song.
Frank Black - Los Angeles
www.youtube.com

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-13 11:02 AM | Reply

This is a win win or for the Southwest and LA.

#21 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Republicans - the party that now cheers for the destruction of millions of homes, farmland, and tens of trillions in damages that they caused.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-13 01:52 PM | Reply

#21 You're stupid, but your Los Angeles reference did remind me of this song.
Frank Black - Los Angeles
www.youtube.com

#22 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2022-08-13 11:02 AM

Before too long my reference is going to be reminding you of why you had to leave your mom's basement and move east. Please don't stop in Texas, go all the way to NYC - they have mega vacancies.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-08-13 04:13 PM | Reply

#21 You're stupid, but your Los Angeles reference did remind me of this song.
Frank Black - Los Angeles
www.youtube.com

#22 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2022-08-13 11:02 AM

This one got hit with a stupid stick a couple of times.

#25 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-08-13 04:14 PM | Reply

I guess the part where the Los Angeles in Tierra Del Fuego is proximate to Antarctica didn't make it through the opioid addiction.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-13 04:28 PM | Reply

#25 was for #23

And I hope you didn't think so highly of yourself that I'd take time to listen to your stupid song link.

#27 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-08-13 05:14 PM | Reply

Think he meant LA, as in Louisiana.

All costal areas will be flooded.

(even North Carolina)

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-13 05:21 PM | Reply

hope you didn't think so highly of yourself that I'd take time to listen to your stupid song link.
#27 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

You're not going to listen to a song?

Who shht in your coffee?

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-08-13 05:22 PM | Reply

"#25 was for #23"

Sure. Makes perfect sense that you're so dumb, you'd quote #22 when you're addressing #23.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-13 05:30 PM | Reply

In honor of Mr. Z: Happy Extinction!

#31 | Posted by bored at 2022-08-13 05:33 PM | Reply

If the Thwaites Glacier (the doomsday glacier) collapses and slips into the sea the Republicans will suddenly "go silent" again. I guarantee Florida will go silent because most of it will no longer exist.

Thwaites Glacier is a Florida-sized slab of ice in Antarctica. This glacier is sliding into the ocean and poses the greatest near-term threat to sea level rise, scientists say. New data suggest that an ice shelf slowing the glacier's slide may collapse within five years.

www.snexplores.org

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-08-14 12:43 AM | Reply

Great post, Donnerboy.
I remember when A-76 broke off the Ronne ice shelf. That was no big deal because it was all sea ice. Thwaites, however is a really, really big deal. That can cause worldwide destruction when it goes.

#33 | Posted by YAV at 2022-08-14 09:03 AM | Reply

Sure. Makes perfect sense that you're so dumb, you'd quote #22 when you're addressing #23.

#30 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2022-08-13 05:30 PM | REPLY |

Says the moron who doesn't understand the clipboard.

Now let's get back to the partisan hack job where all our climate problems rest solely on one party.

#34 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-08-14 11:04 AM | Reply

all our climate problems rest solely on one party.
#34 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

^
An Inconvenient Truth.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-14 11:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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