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Friday, August 12, 2022

The FBI's search warrant for Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence shows the former president is under investigation for possibly violating the Espionage Act, Politico reported Friday.

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The man is a traitor. We've known it almost from the first. Conservatives elevated a traitor out of hatred for America. A hatred much more effective and dangerous than any Islamic terrorist. You people are doing their work for them.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2022-08-12 06:46 PM | Reply

The man is a traitor. We've known it almost from the first. Conservatives elevated a traitor out of hatred for America. A hatred much more effective and dangerous than any Islamic terrorist. You people are doing their work for them.

#1 | Posted by Zed

And their online rhetoric sounds like it's straight out of Timothy McVeigh's manifesto and letter to Fox News as justification for the Oklahoma City bombing.

#2 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-08-12 07:00 PM | Reply

"Keep yer powder dry" and "don't jump to conclusions"!!

-DingDong

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-08-12 07:06 PM | Reply

@#1 ... The man is a traitor. We've known it almost from the first. ...

While I did not know his traitorous traits until more recently, back in the summer of 2016 I noted here the mistake the Republicans were making with him.

For decades, I've resided in the New York City media region, so I have been "fortunate" to learn and know of private citizen Trump since the, ooohhh, 1990's or so.

I believe in the summer of 2016, during that campaign, I was referring to candidate Trump as a ~ow-life NYC real estate developer, and that the GOP should have chosen someone else.~

Little did I know at the time, I was being kind in my opinion of him.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 07:17 PM | Reply

An aside and to wit...

Take my party, please
edition.cnn.com

...Jesse Ventura may not run for President in 2000--but he wouldn't mind if Donald Trump joined the fray

September 20, 1999
Web posted at: 3:50 p.m. EDT (1950 GMT)

Maybe the meeting at the Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino is not destined to be remembered along with Yalta and Potsdam as one of history's great summits. But back in 1988, at the World Wrestling Federation's Wrestlemania IV in Atlantic City, Donald Trump met Jesse ("the Body") Ventura. The real estate parvenu was impressed by the wrestler's sense of showmanship. The two remained casual acquaintances over the years--they became pen pals and talked about golf. Eleven years later, they find themselves soulmates: each would deny Patrick J. Buchanan the Reform Party's presidential nomination. Trump is eyeing the race and has ordered up an analysis of the Reform Party's ballot-access rules.

Trump is not the only big name hovering at the party's edge. Buchanan, former Connecticut Governor Lowell Weicker, Ross Perot and Warren Beatty--each, along with Trump, has considered (casually, at least) a run. And why not? With more than $12 million in federal matching funds and, perhaps, a chance to be in the presidential debates, the party's nomination is the stage for an angry voice. There's no ideological price of admission. The party, founded by Perot, welcomes earnest centrists eager for entitlement reform as well as anti-new world order conspiracists. So each potential candidate, from the hard left to hard right, can justifiably see it as terra firma.

If Trump wants it, then it's good news for George W. Bush. For months Bush has been worried about Buchanan's entering the race as a spoiler who would pull conservative votes from George W. the same way Perot stymied his dad. Indeed, a prominent G.O.P. source tells TIME that a Bush envoy visited Minneapolis recently and spoke to Ventura allies about the Reform Party nomination. The envoy didn't explicitly push a Trump candidacy or a Ventura run--something the Minnesota Governor has officially ruled out. But the envoy did ask if Ventura would fight a Buchanan bid....



#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 07:21 PM | Reply

Unprecedented ... again. What was he doing with boxes and boxes of classified materials?

A flagrant violation of national security by private citizen Trump who had no clearance at all after leaving office.

I used to have a TS SCI years ago and if I had taken just one little piece of paper mark TS SCI home (and brazenly refused to return especially even after being told) I could be rotting in jail right now. ALL TS SCI holders already know better because they were told the law when they were read on.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-08-12 07:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I was just talking to my wife and recalling a conversation from back in 2018 or something, Some scandal involving Trump, there are so many, when I said, this is only the beginning. I said at the time, just wait until all the revelations come out. I said, I would not be surprised if it turns out that he has committed treasonous acts involving national security.

#7 | Posted by cbob at 2022-08-12 07:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#5

Wow, learned a new word this evening...

The real estate parvenu was impressed by the wrestler's sense of showmanship.

Definition of parvenu
www.merriam-webster.com

one that has recently or suddenly risen to an unaccustomed position of wealth or power and has not yet gained the prestige, dignity, or manner associated with it


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 07:27 PM | Reply

I said at the time, just wait until all the revelations come out. I said, I would not be surprised if it turns out that he has committed treasonous acts involving national security.

#7 | POSTED BY CBOB

So true. Seems with Trumpy that every time we think it's really really bad and we've gotten to the bottom of his corruption then when we learn the whole story it gets worse.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-08-12 07:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#6 ... I used to have a TS SCI years ago and if I had taken just one little piece of paper mark TS SCI home (and brazenly refused to return especially even after being told) I could be rotting in jail right now....

Something tells me that the significant severity of a possible crime that may have been committed has not yet sunk in to many, many folk.

imo, there's a reason why the DoJ moved so quickly here after the MAL team seemed to be stonewalling.

Maybe the DoJ was concerned about the destruction of evidence.

When the DoJ told the MAL security to put a padlock on the room, that there was an indication that something was grossly wrong.

This ain't going away quickly because of a few social media posts by fmr Pres Trump.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 07:35 PM | Reply

@#9 ... Seems with Trumpy that every time we think it's really really bad and we've gotten to the bottom of his corruption then when we learn the whole story it gets worse. ...

I've been saying that since his 2016 campaign.

It seems that every time he did something bad, it was trivialized by the next thing he did that was bad.

Fmr Pres trump seems to be quite accomplished in at least one thing, digging his hole deeper and deeper....

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 07:38 PM | Reply

The weird part to me is Trumpy had no use for intelligence information while in office and even refused to read his PDB (unless it was made into a comic book with pictures) but he takes boxes and boxes of highly classified information and stockpiles it in his basement?

The obvious question is why? And then the next question is who else has had access to it? No wonder they wanted the recorded camera feeds.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-08-12 07:43 PM | Reply

@#12 ... The weird part to me is Trumpy had no use for intelligence information while in office and even refused to read his PDB (unless it was made into a comic book with pictures) but he takes boxes and boxes of highly classified information and stockpiles it in his basement? ...

My guess (and it is only that)...

While in office, fmr Pres Trump had little concern about actual governing, but he did have a concern about accumulating assets (personal and monetary) that might be valuable to him in the future.

He looked at the Oval Office more for aggrandisation purposes, and less for a vision to move the Country forward.

As I said, just a guess...


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 07:55 PM | Reply

Let's talk about Trump and TS/SCI documents....

www.youtube.com

Wherein we learn what have happened to you had you done this....

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-12 08:02 PM | Reply

@#14

C'mon, that's 6+ minutes of my life I'll never get back, and that I could read the info presented in 45, maybe 60, seconds.

He presents good info, but he wastes so much time doing so.





#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 08:16 PM | Reply

I wonder if Trump will get the gas chamber or the electric chair?

#16 | Posted by Tor at 2022-08-12 08:29 PM | Reply

#15

The same could be said about... well, never mind.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-12 08:51 PM | Reply

Here's the big issue:

Trump could be absolutely guilty of something.

And his supporters and sycophants - including members of the GOP - will make him a martyr and divide us more.

Case in point: today MTG wrote up articles impeachment for Garland.

Despite that, Garland needs to move forward with indicting Trump if indeed he believes the FPOTUS has committed a crime.

#18 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-08-12 08:58 PM | Reply

@#18 ... Case in point: today MTG wrote up articles impeachment for Garland. ...

Yup, that's the problem with the GOP of late.

Loyalty to Trump over over loyalty to Constitution.

#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 09:18 PM | Reply

@#17 ... The same could be said about... well, never mind. ...

If you want to state a point, say it. Or provide a readable link.

Don't make me wade through a seemingly unending self-promoting video for multiple (six!!!) minutes, when I could read what was said in less than a minute?

I mean really. Why do you want me to waste my time?

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 09:28 PM | Reply

@#14 ... Let's talk about Trump and TS/SCI documents.... ...

Suggestion ...

When you post one of those links, show the person or the site behind the link.

In this instance, you might have wanted to note that the video was from "Beau of the Fifth Column."

And the length of the video.


#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 09:39 PM | Reply

* The fact that the FBI resorted to execute the search warrant in light of the political fallout implies that the **evidence and urgency must be overwhelming**
* All other **means of obtaining the requested documents quietly, e.g. via legal councils were exhausted**, forcing the FBI to intervene
* Applying for and executing the warrant **personally approved** by Merrick Garland, he himself had previously issued a memo requiring his personal approval of investigations into the former president
* There was **probable cause and enough evidence of a crime for a federal judge to grant the warrant**
* The **top-level classified nature** of these documents also entails that there is essentially **zero chance that these inadvertently got mixed up** with other records such as diplomatic letters or gifts (the former president does not give the impression of an avid reader in the interest of national security)
* 15 boxes with records were previously retrieved by the National Archives, meaning that the **remaining material was willfully withheld**
* The storage areas for these document are **woefully negligent**
* This raises suspicions with regards to the **motivations behind taking and retaining these documents**, especially in light of billion-dollar investments into Jared Kushner's business or recent Golf tournaments hosted at the scene. It is **highly disturbing to entertain the possibility that access to these documents was up for sale or a return on favors** for foreign influences with nefarious intentions

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-08-12 09:42 PM | Reply

#22 is a well versed comment from Reddit

#23 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-08-12 09:43 PM | Reply

Remember when Republicans didn't care when Cheney's office outed Valerie Wilson?

Eberly remembers.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-08-12 09:46 PM | Reply

@#22 ... All other **means of obtaining the requested documents quietly, e.g. via legal councils were exhausted**, forcing the FBI to intervene ...

"quietly"

imo, this is one of the aspects of this that drew my attentio.

The DoJ tried to quietly resolve this, but they seemed to have been dealt with resistance.

It seems to have been fmr Pres Trump who wants to makes this a media spectacle.

Why?

Does he need to raise more funds from this?


#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-08-12 10:01 PM | Reply

Why?
Does he need to raise more funds from this?
#25 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Need? No. Hell no. It's just greed. It's all he knows.

#26 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-08-12 10:21 PM | Reply

Pls remind me to never force people here to watch a video all the way through ever again.

How rude of me!

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-13 02:22 PM | Reply

It's just locker room espionage!

#28 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-08-13 06:24 PM | Reply

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