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Wednesday, August 17, 2022

People who used to be close with Rudy Giuliani, who was Donald Trump's personal lawyer during the 2020 presidential election, say that his involvement in multiple scandals related to the former president will ultimately be his downfall.

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"In the weeks after the election, Giuliani falsely claimed that thousands of ineligible voters cast ballots in Georgia and the state's voting systems altered ballots to favor Democrats.

On Monday, Giuliani's former press secretary " Ken Frydman " told CNN that Giuliani is "nervous" about the investigation and said he "flew too close to the sun" in his work for Trump.

"He knows how the DOJ works. He knows how the FBI works. He knows these are meticulous investigations," Frydman told CNN.

"I know he's nervous. He could have flown to Georgia. You know, he flies all over the world. So, that's just a typical tactic to try to postpone the inevitable."

Frydman also referenced an appearance Giuliani made in a Georgia state Senate hearing in late 2020, in which he repeated his false election claims, and Frydman said he'll likely spend the rest of his life trying to avoid jail time.

"He knows that he concocted this scheme. He knows he lied for his client, and he knows we all know," Frydman told CNN. "I think, at this point in his life, his goal is to die a free man."

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"Frydman's comments coincided with remarks Michael Cohen, who also once served as Trump's personal lawyer, made on Monday. Cohen, also speaking to CNN, said Trump will likely "throw [Giuliani] under the bus" in the investigation that led to the FBI raid on Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate early last week.

In that raid, federal agents seized evidence related to an investigation into whether Trump left office in possession of classified documents instead of returning them to the National Archives.

"I believe that everybody likes a bargain, but Donald Trump really likes a bargain," Cohen told CNN.

"And I believe that Rudy is like a BOGO " buy one, get one half off. They're going to throw him under the bus for Mar-a-Lago. And at the same time, they're going to throw him under the bus for Georgia."

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2022-08-17 01:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump really does destroy all he touches.

#2 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-08-17 01:34 AM | Reply

#2
He also acts as a magnet for creeps.

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-08-17 04:06 AM | Reply

So, it comes down to who is going to throw whom under the bus first.

Personally, I don't think Giuliani is sane enough these days to make any decision about anything. ~ and still, the worst is yet to come ~ the fake electors' matter that he spearheaded and also the part he played in the insurrection on January 6.

All of which leads to plea bargains and eventually testifying against Donald Trump

Things are going to get very bad for Giuliani. I hope the DOJ still considers him a flight risk.

#4 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-17 07:19 AM | Reply

Trump is getting locked up. It's just a matter of time. His followers will go berserk. That's not a reason to be timid and back off. Push it to the limit.Felony time for felony crimes.

That's what I'm talking about.

#5 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-08-17 07:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump is getting locked up. It's just a matter of time. His followers will go berserk. That's not a reason to be timid and back off. Push it to the limit.Felony time for felony crimes.

That's what I'm talking about.

#5 | Posted by Effeteposer

No he's not. Garland is afraid of trump's fascist mob. Otherwise he'd have already locked up trump for his 10 counts of obstruction left over from russiagate.

If trump is indicted and found guilty (unlikely because it would require a jury with no trump fascist cult members on it), it'll take so long that there will be a new republican president taking office who will immediately pardon everything, which will be one of his campaign promises.

2024 repub presidential candidates will be promising to pardon all the "fake charges from the deep state" against donald trump and his corrupt enablers. They'll get elected, and they'll do just that.

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-08-17 12:29 PM | Reply

Rudy's possible conviction and incarceration would be the most humbling fall of a major public figure from New York since Richard Whitney walked into Sing Sing. Trump could follow shortly thereafter, if tried before a jury of his peers--old people of darker complexion...

#7 | Posted by catdog at 2022-08-17 12:46 PM | Reply

CATDOG

"Trump could follow shortly thereafter,"

It's hard to say. Trump has a habit of turning the legal system on its ear to escape justice. No doubt he'll do the same if he gets tried and convicted. Any incarceration could be years in the making. My best guess is he'll die first or go broke trying.


#8 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-17 03:54 PM | Reply

Probably right, TwinPac. Sure would like to see him convicted at least. I'm not seeking vengeance for Trump, Giuliani or any of these criminals. I just think they should be held accountable for their crimes. For me, convictions are enough.

#9 | Posted by cbob at 2022-08-17 04:15 PM | Reply

Goodbye Rudy it's been nice
Guess the coup was just no dice
Tried to see your point of view
Now your head is dripping goo

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-08-17 05:34 PM | Reply

Stop your fooling around
Time you straighten right out
Better think of your future
Else you'll wind up in jail

Rudy, a message to you
Rudy, a message to you

- Danny Livingstone

#11 | Posted by chuffy at 2022-08-17 07:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

CBOB

Sometimes I think we get so caught up in vengeance for what he's done to this country that we forget that the real object is only to put him out of business, permanently. There are other ways to do that. Since we don't get daily bulletins from the DOJ we can only trust that they have the same goal. I'm thinking that espionage charge he has hanging over his head so he can't ever hold public office again. That's about as toxic as it can get, even for the U.S. Supreme Court to ignore.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-17 08:07 PM | Reply

Sometimes I think we get so caught up in vengeance for what he's done to this country that we forget that the real object is only to put him out of business, permanently. There are other ways to do that. Since we don't get daily bulletins from the DOJ we can only trust that they have the same goal. I'm thinking that espionage charge he has hanging over his head so he can't ever hold public office again. That's about as toxic as it can get, even for the U.S. Supreme Court to ignore.
#12 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

See, twin, this is where you are wrong. The number one priority should be to protect democracy. The second priority should be justice. I, for one, think that we should be doing all we can to assure priority 1 is met. Seeing how the one-man crime wave and his cult are taking over the republican party and vast swathes of the country does not give me hope. The multi-prong approach of voter suppression, controlling the vote counting process, controlling the vote certification and out right terrorism is having the desired effect-positioning to appoint the 2024 president despite what the results are. No longer will be able to rely on the few remaining republicans with a conscience, they are long gone.

You have been warned. Right now it is a very long shot that democracy will survive the 2024 election.

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-08-17 08:24 PM | Reply

TRUTHY

I don't think I'm wrong. Putting Trump "out of business" permanently resolves most of your other scenarios. Not overnight, of course, but eventually. The country will need to be re-programmed gradually, in increments, to make it stick.

Actually, Trump isn't the whole root of the problem. It's the GOP who still refuses to speak out against the lawless attempts to overthrow democracy. The GOP is as much, if not more, to blame for allowing all this to happen. They could put a stop to it any time they wanted. They won't, because it's the GOP who stands to profit from the demise of democracy. It's the GOP who wants a One Party Rule. Trump is just there for a piece of the action. The same can be said about DeSantis or any other goon who thinks they can do better what Trump failed to do.

The penalty for espionage is death, isn't it?

That's one of the reasons I hope the DOJ pursues the espionage charge ~ for the long term effect ~ not just to put Trump out of business. But also because of the toxic effect it will have on the GOP as some of the lesser known facts are exposed.

The media will salivate for years over this.

#14 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-08-17 11:43 PM | Reply

He's better hurry up and die if he wants to die a free man.

#15 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-08-18 07:14 AM | Reply

#11 | POSTED BY CHUFFY

Love the Specials.
www.youtube.com

#16 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-08-18 09:48 AM | Reply

goodbye 'Hair Dye Magoo',
don't let the cell door slam
too loud on the way to prison...

#17 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-08-18 11:14 AM | Reply

Rudy's a clinical case of how fealty to Trump and Trumpism results in mental illness.

#18 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-08-18 05:58 PM | Reply

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