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Sunday, September 04, 2022

We have previously demonstrated that ivermectin used as prophylaxis for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), irrespective of the regularity, in a strictly controlled citywide program in Southern Brazil (Itaja, Brazil), was associated with reductions in COVID-19 infection, hospitalization, and mortality rates. In this study, our objective was to determine if the regular use of ivermectin impacted the level of protection from COVID-19 and related outcomes, reinforcing the efficacy of ivermectin through the demonstration of a dose-response effect.

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Non-use of ivermectin was associated with a 12.5-fold increase in mortality rate and a seven-fold increased risk of dying from COVID-19 compared to the regular use of ivermectin. This dose-response efficacy reinforces the prophylactic effects of ivermectin against COVID-19.

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#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-09-04 10:41 PM | Reply

Why didn't you link to the page for that paper that lists the authors' conflicts of interest (COIs)?

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#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-09-04 10:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why is this up? This thread should be deleted and HRat put in exile.

#3 | Posted by YAV at 2022-09-04 10:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Flavio A. Cadegiani, M.D., Ph.D., M.Sc. was a waste of time in the peer review section. What an immensely arrogant douche bag, copy/pasting his same arrogant "response" over and over.

Oh my. Look at this:

"Violations of medical ethics and human rights committed in a trial of an experimental drug touted by President Jair Bolsonaro as a cure for covid-19 were the worst in Brazil's history, the country's research regulator has said.1

Brazil's attorney general is investigating the possible violations of medical ethics and human rights on the recommendation of the National Research Ethics Commission (CONEP), which forms part of the CNS.2 The trial's principal investigator, Flavio Cadegiani, was identified in October along with 68 others by a parliamentary inquiry into Brazil's management of the pandemic as having committed "crimes against humanity."3"

www.bmj.com

Great study you posted, Hrat. Congratulations. /s

#4 | Posted by YAV at 2022-09-04 11:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4


This thread should be deleted and HRat put in exile.
#3 | POSTED BY YAV

Tell me you are a fascist without telling me you're a fascist.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-09-04 11:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Why didn't you link to the page for that paper that lists the authors' conflicts of interest (COIs)?

Not how science works ...

Nothing wrong with COI. Its science.

Do you have any critiques? OR just shooting the messenger?

#6 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-09-04 11:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

Disclosing researcher bias isn't the same thing as shooting the messenger.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-09-04 11:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Rat turd done crapped his crapper. SAD!

#8 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-09-04 11:42 PM | Reply

Tell me you are a fascist without telling me you're a fascist.

#5 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

My Name Is Putin

You ------- clown.

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-09-04 11:43 PM | Reply

en.wikipedia.org

poorly put together and vulnerable to bs.

Just watch no other team will be able to replicate the results.

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-04 11:48 PM | Reply

-------- RussiaRat! ... .it does no such thing.
Though if you choose to ---- out your intestines that your prerogative. i

#11 | Posted by a_monson at 2022-09-05 12:40 AM | Reply

Looks like the HeliumRat/IronTurd Russian troll duo is here.

Where's SheepDip to complete the triumvirate? Get shipped off to the Ukrainian front for his poor agit-prop performance?

#12 | Posted by censored at 2022-09-05 12:50 AM | Reply

RCade should take away certain posters ability to post articles.

HeliumRat is clearly re tar did.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-09-05 12:54 AM | Reply

OK, fine. After you are all dead of the WuFlu I will be the only person left on this board.

#14 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2022-09-05 02:01 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

14 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

I hear the earth is flat too. Just because you believe it, doesn't make it true.

History has shown more than a few believe end of times BS, yet the sun still rises and sets every day and people are still running around like loons.

#15 | Posted by Lohocla at 2022-09-05 06:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ivermectint Failed to Help COVID-19 Patients (August 2022)
www.marketwatch.com

...A new study found three generic drugs -- fluvoxamine, which is often prescribed to treat depression, the controversial antimalarial ivermectin, and the diabetes pill metformin -- failed to prevent the kind of severe COVID-19 that leads to an emergency-room visit or hospitalization.

The research, published Wednesday in The New England Journal of Medicine, examined whether any of the three medications benefited 1,323 patients when prescribed in the early days of a COVID-19 infection. Some of the study's participants received a combination of metformin and fluvoxamine or metformin and ivermectin, most were vaccinated, and all were overweight. The randomized, placebo-controlled, Phase 3 study was conducted from December 2020 January of this year by researchers at the University of Minnesota.

"None of the medications showed any impact on the primary outcome, which included experiencing low oxygen as measured on an home oxygen monitor," said Dr. Carolyn Bramonte, principal investigator of the study and an assistant professor of internal medicine and pediatrics at the University of Minnesota Medical School....



#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-05 12:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Tell me you are a fascist without telling me you're a fascist.

#5 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Tell me you're only using the word fascist because you're a brain dead monkey who just learned it and doesn't understand it without telling me you're a brain dead monkey who just learned it and doesn't understand it.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2022-09-05 01:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Not how science works ...
Nothing wrong with COI. Its science.
Do you have any critiques? OR just shooting the messenger?

#6 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Actually, assessing the source of info is part of the quality check every scientist should do when reading something. Why else do you think COIs are listed to begin with?

Let actually smart people do the science, you stupid ----, go back to picking lint from your belly button.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2022-09-05 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Here's a critique, -------. Right in the abstract.

Among ivermectin users, 33,971 (29.8%) used irregularly (up to 60 mg) and 8,325 (7.3%) used regularly (more than 180 mg). The remaining 71,548 participants were not included in the analysis.

They excluded 62.8% of their sample.

There's a reason it's a preprint and will likely remain a preprint.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2022-09-05 01:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Not how science works ...

Since when have Republicans cared how science works.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-09-05 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

www.cureus.com .

#21 | Posted by Scotty at 2022-09-05 02:46 PM | Reply

Fernando Baldi
Fernando Baldi Associate Professor Ph.D.
I'm not a medical professional.

Raysildo Lobo
Raysildo Lobo Ph.D.
I'm not a medical professional.

Washington Luiz Assagra Sr.
Washington Luiz Assagra Sr.
Genetics

Fernando Carlos Proena Sr.
Fernando Carlos Proena Sr.
I'm not a medical professional.

Jennifer A. Hibberd
Jennifer A. Hibberd Sc.D.
Dentistry

Pierre Kory
Pierre Kory M.D.
Critical Care

Flavio A. Cadegiani
Flavio A. Cadegiani Ph.D. M.Sc. M.D.
Diabetes and Endocrinology

Juan J. Chamie
Juan J. Chamie
I'm not a medical professional.

Juan J. Chamie-Quintero
Juan J. Chamie-Quintero
I'm not a medical professional.

#22 | Posted by Scotty at 2022-09-05 02:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" After you are all dead of the WuFlu "

#14 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

I had it in April. But, since I was vaxxed and boosted - no problemo.

#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-09-05 04:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

you're a brain dead monkey who just learned it and doesn't understand it.

#17 | POSTED BY JPW

Trumpy's superpowers are Projection and No Shame.

So yup. You nailed it.

Another brain dead Trumpy monkey who repeats what he is told to say and absolutely has no shame.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-09-05 04:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"you're only using the word fascist because you're a brain dead monkey"

NW

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-05 05:06 PM | Reply

"They excluded 62.8% of their sample."

What a coincidence.

That's the MAGAt goal as well.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-09-05 07:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't have a horse in this race, but...

My wife had Covid before it was recognized, Dec'19.

Hit her hard. She got vaxxed and boosted, and still got it again, and hospitalized. Her friend is a nurse in that ward, and was the one who encouraged her to go. The doctor she works with is the head of that deptartment. In the cocktail of meds she was given was Ivermectin.

We didn't know she was getting that. She has recovered well since then. I'm not saying it was the Ivermectin, but it was in the mix.

#27 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2022-09-05 09:14 PM | Reply

Oh please do shut up. You've already out-ed yourself as a clown.

#28 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-09-05 09:58 PM | Reply

In the cocktail of meds she was given was Ivermectin.

I got COVID in June from vacationing in the septic tank called Florida. I ate chicken fingers and I recovered.....so......chicken fingers were in the mix.

#29 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-09-06 09:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov
In a murine sepsis model, fluvoxamine was found to bind to the sigma-1 receptor on immune cells, resulting in reduced production of inflammatory cytokines.1 In an in vitro study of human endothelial cells and macrophages, fluvoxamine reduced the expression of inflammatory genes.2 Ongoing studies are establishing whether the anti-inflammatory effects of fluvoxamine observed in nonclinical studies also occur in humans and are clinically relevant in the setting of COVID-19.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-06 10:02 AM | Reply

Disclosing researcher bias isn't the same thing as shooting the messenger.

YEA,

That's only when you disclose researcher bias in Climate studies.

#31 | Posted by boaz at 2022-09-06 12:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wrong. It's applicable all the time. You never did it for any of the Climate studies I posted. I always check the COI, so I know.

You never did it, but you "feel" it "had to" have happened, so you post a -------- lie based on your "feelings.".

#32 | Posted by YAV at 2022-09-06 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

After you are all dead of the WuFlu ...
#14 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

I had it last month. It just felt like mild allergy symptoms. Sure glad I was vaccinated!

But you do what you need to do..

#33 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-09-06 06:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

After you are all dead of the WuFlu ...
#14 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

I am going to watch the Bills beat the Rams on Thursday.

On Friday I am going to get the omicron booster.

#34 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-09-07 09:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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