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Sunday, September 11, 2022

Americans are remembering 9/11 with moments of silence, readings of victims' names, volunteer work and other tributes 21 years after the deadliest terror attack on U.S. soil. Victims' relatives and dignitaries will convene Sunday at the places where hijacked jets crashed on Sept. 11, 2001 " the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania.

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"It centers instead on victims' relatives reading aloud the names of the dead."

Heartbreaking.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-09-11 08:58 AM | Reply

9/11 was an opportunity for some American politicians to try out their ambitions in a perversion of the national interest. I've often thought that Osama knew that they would.

These people distorted American culture with unnecessary wars that, of course, they had no idea how to end with the additional perversion of the national interest (here's looking at you, Donald), and distorted American culture such that perversion for the sake of ambition is now the norm for the Republican Party as its leaders continue to exploit the psychological weaknesses of those masses they helped become weak in the first place.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-11 09:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You know, it's clear that we never really got over the Civil War. Ditto WWII. Vietnam is still with us. My grandchildren won't see the end of Iraq and Afghanistan. I view Trumpites in large part as psychological casualties of all these conflicts.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-11 09:35 AM | Reply

Back in 2015, Philip Bump at the WP put together an interesting piece: "A quarter of Americans are too young to remember 9/11" (www.washingtonpost.com).

That was seven years ago. About that time I taught my last university courses, one of which included a portion in which we looked at 9/11 as event and its role/function in myth and memory. It was not nearly as theory-based as that might sound. Basically, how have the events been remembered and how those memorializations, e.g. in film, relate to and jibe with historical fact? Even then, students' awareness of 9/11 was dim. And that was even with all the drumbeating and GWOT rhetoric and imagery. The fact remained: they were kids when it happened and the memories that formed for them were not the ones we older folk came away with from that day.

It's always been that way. Go to Gettysburg and drive around, take it in. Those monuments, now piles of bronze, once brought waves of tears from those who came to their dedications. Whatever form they took, those memorials reflected, for those people, the reality of a time they remembered perhaps all too well. For those who followed, however, the emotional power of those places and the memorials designed to sanctify them wanes over time.

That does not make the events that transpired at, say, Gettysburg, in those monument-strewn fields and across that broken country, inconsequential. It just means that while the event itself may lose its sense of immediacy of over time, the measure of its significance and consequence remains something else entirely.

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-09-11 10:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

It's a good thing politicians are expected not to speak I can only imagine the stupid things they would say and I'm not just talking about trump.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-11 12:18 PM | Reply

Let's remember Jan 6th.

#6 | Posted by kudzu at 2022-09-11 12:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Over the passage of time, all once significant events and dates end up as a plaque no one reads or visits.

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-09-11 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Find the cost of freedom
Buried in the ground
Mother Earth will swallow you
Lay your body down

www.youtube.com

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2022-09-11 12:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

To this day I still cringe whenever I see George W. Bush being honored as an ex-President. his portunistic use of 9/11 as a "Pearl Harborlike Event" to make himself a war-time President and thereby, in his own words, "so he would have more power".
IMHO that was the most cynical, self-serving acts ever committed by a U.S. President and I still despise him for it.
that is really all 9/11 means. To me today.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2022-09-11 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump's reaction to 911 (Mine's tallest again now!)

short
www.youtube.com

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2022-09-11 01:16 PM | Reply

Over the passage of time, all once significant events and dates end up as a plaque no one reads or visits.

#7 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT AT 2022-09-11 12:26 PM | FLAG:
I am sure that's true for many. But some of us do still think about the human beings involved in all of those tragedies. Same with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and Pol Pot's killing fields, and the Rwandan genocide and all the other horrors people inflict upon one another.

I watched a couple of videos today that captured the real-time events of 9/11. The spectacular plane crashes and subsequent collapse of the twin towers are one thing. But what struck me was the grief, both individually and collectively, that quickly emerged. It left a massive scar. The events of that day had a major part in the divisive politics that keep America in a constant state of rage.

#11 | Posted by cbob at 2022-09-11 01:29 PM | Reply

Trump's reaction to 911 (Mine's tallest again now!)

The warning signs were everywhere...

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-09-11 01:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

9/11 is yesterdays news. Islamic terrorism is a micro threat compared to right wing fascism.

Let's not turn 9/11 into a holy tragedy that we keep reminding ourselves of and re traumatizing ourselves like we do with the holocaust. 80 years later and hollywood still makes endless content about hitler and the holocaust and they always win awards. Enough already. Let's deal with TODAYS fascists and TODAYS terrorists, not keep crying over the ones from decades ago.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-09-11 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

After 9/11, Americans came together and United.

After 1/6, Americans became more divided than ever and Republican politicians passed dozens of laws disenfranchising voter and limiting our rights and freedoms.

I'd trade 1/6 for more 9/11s.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-09-11 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

With all due respect to those who perished and their families, I'm already pretty disgusted with the uber-patriotism being sold around this day. Exploitation around this "Never Forget" slogan is over the top. With the exception of those who suffer dementia... nobody who witnessed the events around that day will EVER forget.

I know, at least within some factions, it's the American way. But we need to stop milking the tragedy for either political or monetary gain.

Similar to the way we treat Dec 7th, somber reflection about this day and proper teaching of its history should be enough.

#15 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-09-11 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Damn, I forgot!

#16 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2022-09-11 03:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"After 9/11, Americans came together and United

...and we got the Patriot Act, the AUMF, Afghanistan, and the Iraq invasion.

I'll take disunity.

#17 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2022-09-11 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

To me, one of the most bizarre events in American political history is the fact that the guy who was in charge on 9/11 campaigned for re-election on the idea that he was the best one to protect us from a terrorist attack. And people bought it.

#18 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2022-09-11 03:47 PM | Reply

Let's remember Jan 6th.

#6 | POSTED BY KUDZU

That's what 1/6 is for.

It's kind gross how many righty mouthpieces are also saying "remember the 4 at Benghazi" on social media.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2022-09-11 03:59 PM | Reply

'After 9/11, Americans came together and United.
'ut these great patriota np longer believed in demo

Then Bush used tgat unity ro invade Uraq and peaceful ptotest against that be came synonymous to treaso among the Tea Partiers who would eventually becomr Trumpers supporting insurrection and even a coup attempt to overthrow an election their guy had lost. Those great patriots no longer believe in democracy. They jave turned the word
'patriot" upside down and made the word utterly meaningless.

#20 | Posted by danni at 2022-09-11 05:35 PM | Reply

Pouring one out for my homey, Building 7.

#21 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2022-09-11 05:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not allowed.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-09-11 05:54 PM | Reply

Bush used tgat unity ro invade Iraq

I'll never forget Colon Powell at the UN, convincing people that Iraq was building WMDs on the back of mobile trucks.

Just cruising around. Like a plot to a video game.

It was enough to justify war.

That's when the war of terror allowed America to attack any nation in the region. Which eventually included Libya and Syria.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-09-11 06:00 PM | Reply

Can't believe it's been 21 years.

Glad we are finally out of Afghanistan.

One tragedy begot another.

I only hope we have learned some lessons from it all.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-09-11 06:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People dont learn unless they read.
People dont appreciate context unless
they read history...

given those two facts, I have little hope
that future generations won't make the
smae mistakes...

The is a reason they say history repeats itself.

#25 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-09-11 08:51 PM | Reply

wow. I must be tired. My typing sucks.
time 4 bed.

#26 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-09-11 08:52 PM | Reply

Ahhh yaaaasss 9/11 the war of the vendictive frat brats.

Frat brat Salem bin Laden Osama's older bro and Bushturd2 started the Arbusto Oil Company... company goes belly up Salam dies mysteriously shortly afterwards.

Frat brat Osama gets even with the guy responsible for his brother's death... among other things.

Frat brat Bushturd2 ignores that bloody --- for tat that occurred on home turf for the first time in our history and goes after "the man who tried to kill his daddy" orchestrating the world's largest drive-by shooting while letting Osama get away at Tora Bora.

Two of the longest wars in our history to settle family business disputes... only to lose both wars.

But really what was there to win? Bushturd2 got a pistol from the same man whose father had already rendered powerless a decade earlier.

Yay I suppose.

All that spreading democracy b.s. only to create two radical theocracies.

The wealthy need to be brought under control... they are destroying us.

#27 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-09-11 10:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

9/11 was a great day compared with 1/6.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-09-12 03:33 PM | Reply

9/11 was a great day compared with 1/6.
#28 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I heard you danced from the rooftops.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-09-12 11:15 PM | Reply

9/11 was a great day compared with 1/6.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger

You only tell the truth when you're trying to be sarcastic.

9/11 was a foreign terror attack that united us.

1/6 as a domestic terror attack that divided us.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-09-13 01:22 PM | Reply

"9/11 was a foreign terror attack that united us.
1/6 as a domestic terror attack that divided us."

well, those events impacted you, for sure.

It didn't divide me from anyone nor unite me with anyone.

I can't be manipulated like that.

The masses can be, however. The masses that include you.

The masses that need to be told what to think, where to stand on an issue, how to respond, what resources to get information from and, of course, what to loathe, hate, dismiss, etc.

You do exactly what you've been programmed to do. I'm not talking about your political leaning. I take no issue with that.

It's that you are a moron. But it's okay....you have a lot of company.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-13 01:32 PM | Reply

"The masses that need to be told what to think, where to stand on an issue, how to respond, what resources to get information from and, of course, what to loathe, hate, dismiss, etc."

Is this an indictment of having schoolkids say the Pledge of Allegiance, or a celebration of having schoolkids say the Pledge of Allegiance?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-13 01:35 PM | Reply

I can't be manipulated like that.

The masses can be, however. The masses that include you.

#31 | Posted by eberly

You think I have to be MANIPULATED to hate fascists trying to overthrow the democracy I live under?

Better question - why dont YOU hate the fascists that tried to overthrow democracy?

#33 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-09-13 01:51 PM | Reply

-You think I have to be MANIPULATED to hate fascists trying to overthrow the democracy I live under?

Yes. Absolutely.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-13 01:56 PM | Reply

You think I have to be MANIPULATED to hate fascists trying to overthrow the democracy I live under?

Yes. Absolutely.

#34 | Posted by eberly

And why is that? Because I dont actually value democracy? Because I dont actually hate fascism?

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-09-13 02:04 PM | Reply

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You post like you're in middle school. Going from thread to thread typing "your fascist cult" over and over to posters as though you're making a point.

You just want attention. You have no point to make. You're not remotely informed on a single subject. You provide nothing insofar as a credible response to anything.

It's just "fascist cult" over and over.

It's obvious from your posts you don't have a clue what fascism is. You just found yourself a cute little insult you can hurl at posters begging for attention.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-13 02:08 PM | Reply

It's just "fascist cult" over and over.

It's obvious from your posts you don't have a clue what fascism is. You just found yourself a cute little insult you can hurl at posters begging for attention.

#36 | Posted by eberly

The reason that bothers you is because you've spent years defending that fascist cult. And you can't deny that it IS a fascist cult. It's simply the most accurate concise description of the current republican party. A fascist cult with donald trump as the fascist cult leader. You can't deny it. So you just want people to stop saying something you can't refute. I'll stop saying it when you stop being a fascist cult. A fascist cult that attempted to overthrow democracy on 1/6.

You're the only who's manipulated. So manipulated into partisanship and defending "your side" that instead of attacking those who attempted to overthrow democracy, you attack those who want to stop them.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-09-13 02:33 PM | Reply

"To me, one of the most bizarre events in American political history is the fact that the guy who was in charge on 9/11 campaigned for re-election on the idea that he was the best one to protect us from a terrorist attack. And people bought it."

Bush voters I spoke with at the time said one of two things, that Democrats didn't have the intestinal fortitude to wage war, and alternatively, that it was Bush's mess so he's got to be the one to clean it up.

#38 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-09-13 02:40 PM | Reply

It's obvious from your posts you don't have a clue what fascism is. You just found yourself a cute little insult you can hurl at posters begging for attention.
#36 | POSTED BY EBERLY

So do Republicans not know what fascism is too?
Or do Republicans know what fascism is... and the reason we know they're okay with it is they're still Republicans.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-13 02:46 PM | Reply

"I can't be manipulated like that."

This guy who says he can't be manipulated?
His dumb as a bag of hammers wife thought half of all abortions were being done late-term.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-13 02:56 PM | Reply

Speak, I'm assuming you're an adult but you seriously portray a middle school intellect.

I wouldn't address the "fascist cult" schtick until you parroted it for the 3 millionth time.

Then it became a little redundant perhaps?

But not to you. Hence, the middle school intellect.

Hell, most of the left here can't ------- stand you. They'd wish you just move along. You don't help them with anything. Instead you kill threads with your "fascist cult" drama.

Haven't you noticed how threads die once you show up with that stuff? Everyone leaves. And for good reason.

Usually, after you show up to a thread and kill it...all that's left over is snoofy who a 2-bit troll just like you.

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-13 03:33 PM | Reply

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