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Sunday, September 18, 2022

A Russian diplomat said civilian satellites could be legitimate military targets in a statement that seems to refer to Starlink providing broadband access in Ukraine.

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...Civilian satellites "may become a legitimate target for retaliation," the Russian official said in a statement to the United Nations' open-ended working group on reducing space threats.

The quote is from an unofficial English translation of the statement on September 12 by Konstantin Vorontsov, head of the Russian delegation to the United Nations Office for Disarmament Affairs (UNODA) working group. The translation is provided with other countries' statements from the session on the UNODA's meeting website.

Vorontsov said:

We would like to underline an extremely dangerous trend that goes beyond the harmless use of outer space technologies and has become apparent during the events in Ukraine. Namely, the use by the United States and its allies of the elements of civilian, including commercial, infrastructure in outer space for military purposes. It seems like our colleagues do not realize that such actions in fact constitute indirect involvement in military conflicts. Quasi-civilian infrastructure may become a legitimate target for retaliation.

SpaceX's Starlink division sent satellite terminals to Ukraine after Russia's invasion of the country disrupted broadband networks, with the US providing funding for the effort. Satellite Internet access has been useful in Ukraine's military operations against Russian forces.

Vorontsov's statement went on to claim that the use of civilian satellites might violate the Outer Space Treaty:...



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-18 02:21 PM | Reply

Blow em' up if they're helping to surveil the battlefields. They are being used for military purposes so they are fair game for destruction.

#2 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-09-18 02:55 PM | Reply

that seems to refer to Starlink

As if they have anything that could deal with that. LOL.

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-09-18 03:17 PM | Reply

@#3 ... As if they have anything that could deal with that. ..

If Russia starts going after US civilian communication satellites, that could open a new chapter in the war.

Might Pres Putin do that, as he seems to want to pull NATO into his war?


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-18 03:28 PM | Reply

Might Pres Putin do that, as he seems to want to pull NATO into his war?

Again, with what? Starlink satellites are tiny, fast, and there are thousands of them.

If Vlad's anti-satellite capability is on par with his ground forces he'd be lucky to hit the moon.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-09-18 03:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#5 ... Again, with what? ...

I don't know all that Russia has orbiting, so my answer to that question would be little more than a guess.

... If Vlad's anti-satellite capability is on par with his ground forces he'd be lucky to hit the moon. ...

Of course, there's that.

But Pres Putin's long range missiles seem to have worked. So, would anti-satellite technology be closer to that of long range missiles or that of ground troops?


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-18 03:45 PM | Reply

So, would anti-satellite technology be closer to that of long range missiles

Likely ground or aircraft launched anti-satellite missiles. I think they tested a few in the last couple of years.

More like long rage missiles but probably way more expensive and way more complicated. Equipment maintenance does not seem to be a Russian superpower.

Starlink has 3000+ birds up, I doubt Vlad has that many missiles.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-09-18 04:03 PM | Reply

@#7 ... Starlink has 3000+ birds up, I doubt Vlad has that many missiles. ...

Yup, there's that also. Pres Putin's had some issues building mnore hi-tech equipment because of the sanctions.

More from the cited article...

...Attacking Starlink in space would be no simple matter because SpaceX has launched more than 3,000 satellites and is seeking permission to eventually launch tens of thousands.

The Space.com article notes that Starlink hasn't been the only satellite operator providing important services in response to Russia's war against Ukraine. "In addition to Starlink, commercial satellite imagery firms such as Planet, Maxar and BlackSky have been providing crucial intelligence by taking pictures of the conflict from above and sharing them openly, playing an unexpectedly important role throughout the Russian invasion," the article said....



So was the comment just a way of Pres Putin saying that he plans to attack civilian infrastructure that belongs to countries other than Ukraine? Russia has already tried to attack StarLink's ground terminals.

Why would such a comment be made if follow-through were not possible?





#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-18 04:34 PM | Reply

They would be legitimate targets if they did strike them. Proxy war will become a full on shooting war by next spring in my opinion.

All for Nazis killing their OWN people.

Disgusting.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-09-18 04:42 PM | Reply

Why would such a comment be made if follow-through were not possible?

Ask effete. He posts such nonsense all the time.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-09-18 04:53 PM | Reply

Russians say a lot of stupid things. Remember "We'll take back Alaska!"?

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-09-18 07:11 PM | Reply

The Russians would be at risk of destroying their and the Chinese satellites if they blow up a bunch of Earthlink satellites. Effeteposer is either a Russian or a traitor. No simple way to look at it by the sheer volume of his Anti West posts.

#12 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2022-09-18 07:49 PM | Reply

#2 & #9

"Someone talk to me. I'm throwing out a hot take! I even repeated it!"

Beautiful sound of crickets.

#13 | Posted by memyselfini at 2022-09-18 08:52 PM | Reply

#12 | POSTED BY WILDMAN62

I'll take C. A loser troll seeking attention.

#14 | Posted by memyselfini at 2022-09-18 08:54 PM | Reply

@#9 ... They would be legitimate targets if they did strike them. ...

Why?

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-18 09:35 PM | Reply

"Anything that furthers the unlawful and genocidal pogroms of our glorious leader is to be venerated."

PFFFFTPOSER.

#16 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-09-18 09:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Remember Ronald Reagan's Star Wars anyone?

Been there done that. Didn't even get a T-Shirt.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-09-19 12:59 PM | Reply

"Vorontsov's statement went on to claim that the use of civilian satellites might violate the Outer Space Treaty:..."

Invading Ukraine definitely violated the treaty of 1992 that convinced Ukraine to give up their muclear weapons.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2022-09-19 03:21 PM | Reply

Space force may end up having a legit purpose this soon?........nah this should be handled by the airforce.

#19 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-19 03:25 PM | Reply

...this should be handled by the airforce.

Space Force is just the Air Force with different costumes anyway.

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-09-19 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

....uniforms.

#21 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-19 03:52 PM | Reply

It has been time to create a Space branch since 1958.

#22 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-09-19 05:25 PM | Reply

The Russian "Kalina" anti-satellite laser facility broke ground last June. Eventually it will be engaging photography and comms satellites.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-09-19 05:29 PM | Reply

Yeah Putin, you should not be wanting
to open that can of American
Whoop@ss...

Once again, the 'Pied Piper of Moscow'
drastically underestimates the technology
of the West, and drastically overestimates
his own...

#24 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-09-20 06:36 AM | Reply

Whoop ass? You mean pretend they aren't being used for military purposes.

#25 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-09-20 07:23 AM | Reply

If Vlad's anti-satellite capability is on par with his ground forces he'd be lucky to hit the moon.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-09-18 03:40 PM | Reply | Flag:

I wonder if Elon could drop a Tesla from orbit onto the Kremlin.

#26 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-09-20 08:25 AM | Reply

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