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Tuesday, September 20, 2022

Ken Burns: We're in perhaps the most difficult crisis in the history of America' In a new docuseries, the film-maker looks back to the Holocaust and US apathy to make links toward where we are right now

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"Burns, who is fond of a quotation often attributed to Mark ----- " "History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes," " reflects:

"As we worked on the film, it became increasingly clear with a great deal of anxiety and urgency just how much nearly every sentence was rhyming.

The conservatives that installed Adolf Hitler were certain they could control him; in a few months they were either dead or completely marginalised. It is a telling story: he wished to make Germany great again.

"[President Franklin] Roosevelt had to combat an isolationist America First committee.

We meet characters like Breckinridge Long, this implacable antisemite and assistant secretary of state in the Roosevelt administration's state department who does everything he can to obscure or bury news about the coming Holocaust and make it increasingly more difficult for refugees who are fulfilling the requirements."

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Yogi Berra: 'It's Deja Vu All Over Again'

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2022-09-19 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Burns adds:

"The story of the Holocaust reminds us of the fragility of democracies but how, as frustrating as they can be, there is nothing more important than maintaining those democracies " constitutional, parliamentary, whatever they might be " in the world because we see from human history that the authoritarian regimes have killed by a multitude of 100 more of their own citizens than democracies have.

Not that democracies haven't done bad things and will continue to do bad things, but they don't do them on the scale of autocracies."

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2022-09-19 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This program has been years in the making, yet some quotes, comments and historical facts are being repeated and restated today. I hope viewing the program provides a wake-up call for many, because for some it is a mirror...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2022-09-20 01:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I watched the first episode last night. Not much has changed.

Wide open and unguarded stand our gates,
And through them presses a wild motley throng"
Men from the Volga and the Tartar steppes,
Featureless figures of the Hoang-Ho,
Malayan, Scythian, Teuton, Kelt, and Slav,
Flying the Old World's poverty and scorn;
These bringing with them unknown gods and rites,"
Those, tiger passions, here to stretch their claws.
In street and alley what strange tongues are loud,
Accents of menace alien to our air,
Voices that once the Tower of Babel knew!

-Thomas Bailey Aldrich

reimaginingmigration.org

#4 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-09-20 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So many in the GQP do not want this coming out. They are calling Ken a Liberal, and country hater, for repeating our history. They do NOT want this taught in schools, and say it is CRT. They don't even know what CRT is about.

#5 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-09-20 01:41 PM | Reply

"The conservatives that installed Adolf Hitler were certain they could control him"

I remember the Speaker of the House at the time (Paul Ryan) saying the same thing about Donald Trump.

They all found out the hard way how wrong they were. History does indeed repeat itself.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-09-20 02:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

This is so stupid.

Do you liberals hate America that much? Then why dont you just ------- leave?

The holocaust is NOT American history. There are no links to be made. You people make me sick.

#7 | Posted by boaz at 2022-09-20 04:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The holocaust is NOT American history. There are no links to be made. You people make me sick.

#7 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2022-09-20 04:31 PM | REPLY

The USA REFUSING holocausts refugees is AMERICAN HISTORY!!!! Why don't you read one of your daughter's history books instead of molesting her?????? Or is reading comprehension at a 3rd grade level too hard??????

#8 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-09-20 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- There are no links to be made

Think again, Major Nuisance... the original America Firsters beg to differ:

www.theatlantic.com

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2022-09-20 05:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Do you liberals hate America that much?"

It's more like, do you liberals hate Jews so much, that you won't let a boatload of Jews into America?

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-20 05:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#10
Ask FDR if you think the internet can reach Hell.

#11 | Posted by HanoverFist at 2022-09-20 07:19 PM | Reply

One of the G.O.P.'s primary concerns about their 'enemy du jour' (immigrants) is prolific breeding ~ which is to say, future Democrats, which is to say a possible threat to their future authoritarian empire.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-09-21 01:14 AM | Reply

JFC Boaz, how many times are you going to remind us you're a nazi?

#13 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-09-21 05:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The feeling is quite mutual Boaz.
You make most of us sick...

do the rest of us a favor, and
crawl back under your rock with
the rest of the racist scum in this
country.

and fyi...

"we shall not let you and yours win..."
that's a promise.

#14 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-09-21 06:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#14,

difference between this time and last time, there werent men in man-buns. There was no far left, the sides were more alike in ideology.

Nature says your side wont win. History bears that out.

#15 | Posted by boaz at 2022-09-21 07:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Boaz hates this country and wants to see it fail.

#16 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-09-21 07:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

The holocaust is NOT American history. There are no links to be made. You people make me sick.

#7 | Posted by boaz at 2022-09-20 04:31 PM | Reply | Flag:

Every family that died in Europe at the hand of Nazis because the US refused them entry is a link to the holocaust.

Denying it doesn't mean its not true. Attacking the messenger doesn't make it true.

Look at what the GOP is doing now... hiding our nations ugly history of slavery, racism, murder, lynchings, homophobia, transphobia, etc.

Every time some repukelican says:

Ban CRT
Don't say gay
Marriage is a man and woman
My pronoun is "patriot" (despite being incredibly incorrect)

They are hiding the ugly parts of our history. If we don't acknowledge them and learn from them, we are doomed to repeat them. Period.

"The conservatives that installed Adolf Hitler were certain they could control him; in a few months they were either dead or completely marginalised. It is a telling story: he wished to make Germany great again."

All the GQP --------- thought they could control dotard and they were wrong. He is an out of control dictator. If you don't tow his line 1000% you are a target either by removal or by violence. 1/6 and every single GQP party voting to kick out people that don't genuflect in front of dotard is the prime example. In today's GQP there is no diversity of thought, no debate, only blind obedience to the whims and demands of dear leader. That isn't a democracy, that is a dictator...a mob boss...call it what you want.

Now we are getting trumpc*nts shooting up schools and grocery stores to kill minorities. How is this any different than the germans killing jews? It's not.

The holocaust began with Germany first and making germany great again.

Today America first and making america great again is being used by the very same types of people to do the same here.

You're a fool if you cannot see it....or worse if you agree with it and want it to happen here.

The founders wanted a firewall between church and state because it is clear how religion can be corrupted to commit atrocities (the crusades, the inquisition, witch trials, al queda, jihads, etc) because how can anyone go against the word of god. A cult leader than can convince devotees that he is god's chose messiah cannot be questioned ( jim jones, david koresh, osama bin laden, etc) and must be obeyed. That is dangerous slippery slope to theocratic dictatorship where atrocities will be committed against anyone who is a non-believer.

We are there now. Look at the christian taliban that will sacrifice women's lives to force them to carry a dead fetus inside them or will allow employers to deny health coverage for HIV drugs based on "religious beliefs"...show me where the bible says that HIV drugs are forbidden... I can show you where working on the sabbath, shrimp, crab, pork chops and poly cotton blends are forbidden. Y'all Queda is pushing down this slope to totalitarianism where it is a matter of time until the nation will deport muslims and jews and sikhs. You think it can't happen. It happened in Germany. It happens all around the globe. You think America is better than allowing it happening here? Look at the intolerance taking hold in Florida, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc. Anyone that will fire someone for displaying a pride flag is a tinpot dictator that believes in religious hate speak being more important than freedom to live and love.

Germany didn't begin with pushing living people in ovens. Every step down the road of fascist theocratic dictatorship will be small and measured. I will fight against that until my dying day.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-09-21 08:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"difference between this time and last time, there werent men in man-buns."

Men in powdered wigs more your thing?

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-21 08:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

-I will fight against that until my dying day.

By doing what?

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-21 09:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I would watch anything Ken Burns does.

I even watched a documentary about Ken Burns.

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-21 09:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That's not entirely on Franklin Roosevelt, that's on the Congress and the people of the United States who consistently voted against it, even when the horrors were revealed. When the concentration camps were liberated and the footage came back, only 5% of the American public were willing to let more people in."

Was that due to overwhelming distrust of letting any immigrants in while fighting a war in Europe and the South Pacific (which I can understand Americans not being big fans of Europeans or Asians at the time) or was it specific to Jews?

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-21 09:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#21 It's not an either-or situation.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-21 09:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Men in powdered wigs more your thing?

#18 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Come on, you know it is his daughter that is his thing. He is nothing but a Putin Pedophile and his poor daughter suffers.

#23 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-09-21 10:36 AM | Reply

Was that due to overwhelming distrust of letting any immigrants in while fighting a war in Europe and the South Pacific (which I can understand Americans not being big fans of Europeans or Asians at the time) or was it specific to Jews?
#21 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2022-09-21 09:21 AM |

It was the Jews & Immigrants. My family came to the USA in 1919, and had KKK try to run them and the other Swedes out of town in the 1920's & 1930's. Seems they talked in Swedish and others did not trust what they were saying. Doesn't matter who you were, if they wanted, they attacked.

#24 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-09-21 10:45 AM | Reply

The Gangs of New York was a great movie for me personally because it brought to life the natives vs the dead rabbits

Natives? People who hadn't been there very long at all with an outright violent opposition to newer immigrants from another European country.

All living in squalor in the same place.

I wouldn't have believed the distrust and resent amongst folks who were in the same situation in the same place.

It tells me that immigrants, once here for a relatively short amount of time, believe they are real Americans just like the guy up the road who's family immigrated here 6 generations ago.

And it's why they don't find such offense at the ---- folks like DeSantis and Trump do to immigrants.

And it's why nobody wanted to let in Jews despite what they were being subjected to at the time.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-21 11:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Boazo proves, once again, that he's not just a sick SOB, but a completely ignorant, sick SOB.

#26 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-09-21 01:27 PM | Reply

The holocaust is NOT American history.
#7 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Probably not African American History.

But it is definitely European American History.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-09-21 04:59 PM | Reply

-I will fight against that until my dying day.

By doing what?

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-21 09:03 AM | Reply | Flag

Obviously by storming the capitol, stealing papers and laptops from democrats office and wiping feces on the walls.

Duh.

#28 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-09-22 07:30 AM | Reply

I would watch anything Ken Burns does.

I even watched a documentary about Ken Burns.

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-21 09:11 AM | Reply | Flag

He brings the receipts in a thoughtful and entertaining way.

#29 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-09-22 07:31 AM | Reply

Sure, I trust the backwoods BoJangles to tell me what is and isn't "American" history.

#30 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-09-22 09:44 AM | Reply

"backwoods BoJangles" = Boaz?

Yikes

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2022-09-22 10:14 AM | Reply

Boaz hates this country and wants to see it fail.

Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-09-21 07:57 AM |

As a Rush Limpbaugh devotee, thats a natural position to have when a Democratic president is in office.

I remember when that evil piece of --- in 2019 wanted the entire economy to collapse to hurt Obama. No amount of businesses, banks, employers could collapse and no amount of people losing their homes, jobs, life savings, etc was too much so long as it hurt Obama.

What a ugly way to live your life from people who like to say they are Christians.

#32 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-09-22 12:00 PM | Reply

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