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Friday, September 23, 2022

Christian nationalism, a belief that the United States was founded as a white, Christian nation and that there is no separation between church and state, is gaining steam on the right.



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The poll suggests

why this message [of Christian nationalism] may be resonating, at least among the most ardent, religious and older base of the Republican Party. However, this strategy may be short-sighted. As our findings demonstrate, there is strong opposition to declaring the U.S. a Christian nation among younger Americans, and even younger Republicans. For that reason, the GOP may want to tread carefully or risk alienating rising generations.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-09-23 07:34 AM | Reply

"61 percent of Republicans supported declaring the United States a Christian nation"

By which they are not including Catholics and Mormons. By which the Church of Christ means just and only the Church of Christ.

Dissolving the separation of church and state will only mean that this great right-wing hostility, which squats on their souls, will find expression on a neighborhood-by-neighborhood basis.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-23 08:18 AM | Reply

"C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters was first published in 1942, during the Second World War. One of the subjects Lewis addresses in the book is the danger of using Christianity to support a "cause".

In this book, Lewis is writing from the devil's perspective " showing us his temptation playbook. In one letter, senior devil Screwtape writes to his nephew Wormwood:

"Whichever he adopts, your main task will be the same. Let him begin by treating the Patriotism or the Pacifism as a part of his religion.

Then let him, under the influence of partisan spirit, come to regard it as the most important part.

Then quietly and gradually nurse him on to the stage at which the religion becomes merely part of the cause', in which Christianity is valued chiefly because of the excellent arguments it can produce in favour of the British war-effort or of Pacifism.

The attitude which you want to guard against is that in which temporal affairs are treated primarily as material for obedience.

Once you have made the World an end, and faith a means, you have almost won your man, and it makes very little difference what kind of worldly end he is pursuing.

Provided that meetings, pamphlets, policies, movements, causes, and crusades, matter more to him than prayers and sacraments and charity, he is ours " and the more religious' (on those terms) the more securely ours.

I could show you a pretty cageful down here."

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2022-09-23 11:44 AM | Reply

Republicans hate the Constitution.

#4 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-09-23 03:54 PM | Reply

The founders were clear that while America was a Christian Nation of sorts that it must allow for religious freedom they specifically wanted that to include those who were deists, Jewish, Hindus and, Muslims.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-23 05:06 PM | Reply

"Christian nationalism could be a political loser."

I could only be a political loser if votes still matter after they take control.

#6 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2022-09-23 06:31 PM | Reply

Sad thing about these American Christian Taliban thing is that they are not true Christians but hypocrites. Very very few of them live a clean life that they claim they do. They are more like a bunch of Pat Robertsons, Jerry Farwells and others of that ugly ilk. The USA will never become a completely Christian state and excuse the pun but thank god for that.

#7 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2022-09-23 06:46 PM | Reply

"61 percent of Republicans supported declaring the United States a Christian nation"

#2 | Posted by Zed

The irony is that in this same survey, they found that 57% of Republicans agreed that establishing an official 'religion', any religion, Christian or otherwise, would violate the Constitution of the United States.

So which is it guys, establishing a state religion or upholding the Constitution? It appears that at least some of you think you can have it both ways.


#8 | Posted by OCUser at 2022-09-23 07:21 PM | Reply

I don't recall the dystopian author but when this happened Utah was the first state to seceed.

#9 | Posted by mattm at 2022-09-23 07:55 PM | Reply


Kinda makes sense.

#10 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-09-23 07:59 PM | Reply

Just like ISIS, just a different religion.

If they'd have been born on the other side of the planet they'd be beating women who didn't wear a hijab.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-09-23 08:38 PM | Reply

Republicans hate the Constitution.


The only part they have ever read is the 2nd half of the 2nd Amendment.

#12 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2022-09-23 09:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is there anything in the Bible supporting representative government, separation of powers, Etc.?

#13 | Posted by TenMile at 2022-09-23 09:15 PM | Reply

"Is there anything in the Bible supporting representative government, separation of powers, Etc.?"

there were some elections among the Jews.

And Jesus said render unto.......

It doesn't matter much to them does it?

Rather than act like Jesus they think a proclamation will somehow be more Christian than helping those in need.

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-23 09:18 PM | Reply

As an atheist, in my 70's, I do fear these fanatics, for sacrificing fellow humans for one's religious fantasies is a long held tradition in Christianity.

#15 | Posted by Hughmass at 2022-09-24 07:33 AM | Reply

Tor, most of the founders were deists. There's nothing in the US Constitution that says this is a Xtian nation. In fact, there's that pesky very First Amendment that says so.

#16 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-09-24 10:30 AM | Reply

"Tor, most of the founders were deists."

Winner winner chicken dinner!

Tor, do you know the difference between a deist and a theist? Do you know which one you are?

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-24 10:34 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Time to reference the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli:

The treaty confirms the U.S. is not founded on Christian religion:

"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen (Muslims), and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan (Islamic) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

#18 | Posted by YAV at 2022-09-24 10:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

There is no number of Democrats too large to get off their butts and flush the repub toilet and it's contents out of existence.

#19 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2022-09-24 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Tor, most of the founders were deists."

Says who?


He considered himself a Christian and wished a Church would be built closer to his house.


Even more of a Christian.


He was in favor of praying to God.


He described himself as a Christian and then was silent on religious matters likely trying to avoid the creation of a state church.

#20 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-24 08:04 PM | Reply

The most defining factor in a person's faith is what your parents are. People pick your logic before you have time to develop it.

#21 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-09-25 12:59 AM | Reply

Tor-- citation?

#22 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-09-25 06:06 AM | Reply

#23 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-09-25 06:09 AM | Reply

If and when this goes through, they will start arguing about which flavor of Christianity runs the nation. The different denominations will go after each other like the Catholics and Protestants in the UK and N. Ireland. .

Its a slippery slope, which is why the founding fathers created separation between church and state.

#24 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-09-25 11:19 AM | Reply

Like millions in the US educated by the Jesuits I call BS on this. I do not deny these crazies exist, but am confident that their brand of political thought will not last when firmly confronted, which is what must happen. Anyone who brings this filth in my direction will hear about their willful ignorance and need for redemption ...

#25 | Posted by catdog at 2022-09-25 06:02 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by Tor

Full of manure.

#26 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-09-25 06:31 PM | Reply

Oh angry@dad I knew you couldn't quit me.

#27 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-25 08:44 PM | Reply

"the population of my neighborhood is too slender, and is too much divided into other sects to maintain any one preacher well. I must therefore be contented to be an Unitarian by myself, altho I know there are many around me who would become so, if once they could hear the questions fairly stated."

thomas Jefferson

#28 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-25 08:45 PM | Reply

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