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Friday, September 23, 2022

Officer Ruben Reynoso and Sergeant Christopher Liakopoulos both face three felonies, including aggravated battery of a firearm, aggravated discharge of a firearm and official misconduct, Foxx said. Chicago police said the officers, who were assigned to the Major Accidents Investigations Unit, were heading to the academy for police training just before 7 a.m. in the 1000-block of West 18th Street when they saw four individuals wearing masks loitering in front of a closed business. That's when CPD said one of the individuals displayed a gun, leading to an exchange of gunfire. However, Foxx's office said video evidence shows police officers firing first, which contradicts officers' statements that they were fired upon first. Foxx said there were no body-worn cameras during the incident.

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...Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx announced felony charges against a Chicago police sergeant and officer Friday for a shooting in Pilsen in July....

No officers were injured, but two men were shot, including an apparent innocent bystander who was grazed in the leg. One individual was taken to a hospital in serious, but stable condition.

If convicted, the officers could face 30 years in prison. Both officers turned themselves in on Thursday night and were given $25,000 bond each during a Friday hearing.

Both men raced into a vehicle from the jail Friday night after each posting 10% of their bond.

Miguel Medina, a man who was shot at by police, has hired an attorney and filed a three-count complaint against Liakopoulos. Medina was not committing any crimes or breaking any laws leading up to the shooting, Foxx said.

"The victim who was shot and injured in this incident was not in possession of a weapon, not did fire a weapon at these two officers," Foxx said....


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-23 12:19 PM | Reply

The police are the largest and most powerful gang in the United States.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-23 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Does this look like gang activity to you?

www.youtube.com

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-23 05:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Body Camera Shows LAPD Officer Firing on Unarmed Suspects in Drive-By-Style Shooting
www.msn.com

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-23 05:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Congratulations you found someone in the entire country who screwed up.

There are cops in your neighborhood.

Have they murdered anyone lately?

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-23 05:43 PM | Reply

There are cops in your neighborhood.
Have they murdered anyone lately?

Yes.
www.cbsnews.com

"Neighbors in the area said this all started Wednesday morning when a man, described as disheveled, took a bike that was for sale on a joy ride around the block, returned it, and started smoking a cigarette on someone's porch."

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-23 05:53 PM | Reply

Cops in your neighborhood ever killed anyone, Tor?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-23 09:04 PM | Reply

And yet they arrested a murderer without even killing him.

www.post-gazette.com

Does that sound like gang behavior to you?

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-24 08:13 PM | Reply

Does that sound like gang behavior to you?

#8 | POSTED BY TOR

"Some cops didn't commit an extrajudicial execution this one time!" is not the flex you think it is, laddie.

#9 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2022-09-24 08:24 PM | Reply

This one time?

extrajudicial execution?

These are not words that I have written.

Don't conflate your garbage with my thoughts.

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-24 08:33 PM | Reply

@#8 ... Does that sound like gang behavior to you? ...

One example does not gainsay what seems to be a trend.

imo, while I do have the opinion that there are many, many police officers who do follow the "Protect and Serve" oath they swore... I also think there is a problem within some (many? most? I don't know) police forces.

The number one problem I see is the so-called Blue Wall of Silence. That means, to me, that the "good apples" in a police department will not talk about the "bad apples" they work with.

The Blue Wall of Silence effectively proves the old adage that one bad apple spoils the whole barrel.


For now, for me, that's a start...

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-24 08:34 PM | Reply

One example?

That's the norm.

You don't see as many articles about it for the same reason you can't find me any articles about trains getting to their stations without incident.

Would you like me to find you ones about trains derailing?

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-24 08:36 PM | Reply

@#12 ... You don't see as many articles about it for the same reason you can't find me any articles about trains getting to their stations without incident. ...

Oh, I agree that the bad examples tend to get reported.

I have no disagreement with you on that.

But my concern here is not the reporting.

My concern here is ... how do we fix these problems?

To use your example, when a train derails, there is an investigation and, based upon the results of that instigation, changes are made.

So, when police act poorly, let's investigate and, based upon the results of the investigation, let's make changes.

Having said that, the problem with investigation seems to start with the Blue Wall of Silence, i.e., good police officers shielding bad police officers. It is difficult to investigate when information is being hidden intentionally.

As I said, breaking down the Blue Wall of Silence is a good start.

How do you recommend we do that?


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-24 08:53 PM | Reply

"My concern here is ... how do we fix these problems?"

That is valid.

I suspect that there's something like a cycle of violence within the law enforcement community.

rookies get pulled in both at the academy and in their first year on the job.

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-24 08:56 PM | Reply

@#14

Other suggestions I'd make...

The body-camera videos are not the property of the police department. The videos should be managed by a non-police entity.

Having the police manage the evidence that may show their bad behavior is just wrong on so many levels.

For example...

apnews.com

...Louisiana state troopers were captured on body camera video stunning, punching and dragging a Black man as he apologized for leading them on a high-speed chase -- footage of the man's last moments alive that The Associated Press obtained after authorities refused to release it for two years....

That sort of video should not be in the control of the police.

Do banks give control of their security video to bank robbers?

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-24 09:08 PM | Reply

Your last line sucked.

Other than that you sound ready to get elected. ;)

#16 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-24 09:32 PM | Reply

@#16 ... Your last line sucked. ...

Yeah, that was its purpose. To put a fine point on the issue. Maybe too fine,... :)

. ... Other than that you sound ready to get elected ...

That's not me.

I'm an Engineer. I look at facts facts and render an opinion based upon facts.

I'd die in politics. :)



#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-09-24 09:56 PM | Reply

extrajudicial execution?

These are not words that I have written.

#10 | POSTED BY TOR AT

You posted an article about some cops who, against all odds, restrained themselves and didn't commit an extrajudicial execution like it is a win of some sort.

One of us has "garbage thoughts." It's not me, sugar.

#18 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2022-09-25 07:05 AM | Reply

Your cries to abolish the police have been met with laugher by the adults.

#19 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-25 08:41 PM | Reply

#5 | POSTED BY TOR

And you congratulate him for it?

Fnkcin' weird.

Swallow it.

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-09-25 09:58 PM | Reply

congratulating?

You're being obtuse.

#21 | Posted by Tor at 2022-09-25 10:11 PM | Reply

You're being obtuse.
#21 | POSTED BY TOR

Just literal:

Congratulations...
#5 | POSTED BY TOR

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-09-25 11:10 PM | Reply

laugher by the adults.

#19 | POSTED BY TOR

We're actually laughing at the stretch marks around your mouth, laddie.

You're only supposed to give the boot a light licking. You've got it in past the knee.

#23 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2022-09-26 12:28 AM | Reply

Just literal:

#22 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

That's twice this person has argued with their self on this thread.

Clearly a well adjusted individual.

#24 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2022-09-26 12:46 AM | Reply

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