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Tuesday, September 27, 2022

According to the Russian news agency Interfax, citing Russia's Central Election Commission, the "preliminary results" showed that around 98% of those who "voted" in four occupied territories supported Russian annexation.

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Well, I guess Zelensky owes Pootey a heartfelt apology.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2022-09-27 02:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wow. Effete was right. I never thought it would be that high. Will the UN be supervising Ukraine's pullout?

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-09-27 02:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

------- lying pieces of ----.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-09-27 05:07 PM | Reply

Guns being held by soldiers watching you vote are very persuasive.
Especially when the ballot has only "Da" and "Het" on it in 3" letters next to 3" square check boxes, and the ballot box is clear plexiglas.

#4 | Posted by YAV at 2022-09-27 06:25 PM | Reply

Putin had to higher than his usual 80%, he figured 90% for nukes.

#5 | Posted by ichiro at 2022-09-27 11:16 PM | Reply

"Never trust a Russian. Even Russians don't trust Russians." - Old Russian proverb

#6 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-09-27 11:46 PM | Reply

HL correction: Putin Declares ...

#7 | Posted by ichiro at 2022-09-28 12:03 AM | Reply

Those are Kim Jung Un-level winning percentages

#8 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-09-28 03:11 AM | Reply

Less than 110%? How disappointing.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-09-28 05:17 AM | Reply

Objectively, there's no way these groups -Ethnic Russian Ukrainians and Ukrainian Nationalists -could possibly share a nation. They have self-segregated, so yes near 100% makes sense. Take a poll of the other side and it will also be near 100% opposite.

Their only chance to combine was to have a Federal Government, as outlined in the Minsk Agreement. Instead they wound up with a National government, as it turns out the Nationalists had only agreed disingenously at Minsk, as explained in the ex-post-facto admittance of the former president Poroshenko.

www.ft.com

The Nationalist purpose all along was to crush the Russian-speaking population.

www.hrw.org

How could a population not separate from a nationalist government so at odds with them?
How would the nationalists rule them as other than despised tax-slaves, second-class citizens?

The question really should be - who is a nation? The government, or the people that live there?

These referenda are as valid as the ones from the 15 oblasts of the former Soviet Union which separated in the 90s. As valid as the US separating from England. It's a standard of popular soverignity.

#10 | Posted by facthunt at 2022-09-28 06:39 AM | Reply

Do you idioctically believe that changing your name to "FactHunt" will make any difference? Do you stupidly believe that no one will know who you are? There is literally nothing different in your posting from the previous alias. You should be removed from this site just for insulting everyone's intelligence.

#11 | Posted by YAV at 2022-09-28 07:32 AM | Reply

Lots of election deniers out there. This time they may be on to something...

#12 | Posted by catdog at 2022-09-28 09:17 AM | Reply

Do you idioctically believe that changing your name to "FactHunt" will make any difference? Do you stupidly believe that no one will know who you are? There is literally nothing different in your posting from the previous alias. You should be removed from this site just for insulting everyone's intelligence. #11 | Posted by YAV

PooteyPoser got another suck puppet account so he feels less alone when regurgitating Moscow Midget's lies? Pathetic.

At least the paid Russian trolls like SheepleScheissem and IronTurd have the intelligence to repeat Russkie propaganda only when they make a few kopeks.

#13 | Posted by censored at 2022-09-28 09:58 AM | Reply

Bellringer and other Conservatives will call it a legit vote.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2022-09-28 10:00 AM | Reply

I have no idea who FactHunt is. I have one handle, effeteposer. Is it impossible to believe others are not in lockstep with the prevailing opinions?

Why is that?

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-09-28 11:24 AM | Reply

#15 - Odd. I didn't expect a consciousness of guilt from you.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2022-09-28 11:42 AM | Reply

Does it matter in any way to the situation how they feel? The concern of how people feel doesn't justify the invasion and killing of people in those areas and an entire country just because some people want things their way. There are other ways to go about it.

#17 | Posted by humtake at 2022-09-28 11:50 AM | Reply

Want things their way? They were being killed and economically crushed by their "own" government. The US colonies separated from England for much less.

They didn't want to pay taxes to an unrepresentative sovereign.

Double standards,are hypocritical.

As to Russia intervening,they wanted the Minsk accords to be implemented and refused to accept the Donbass referenda before the war.

So much for a land grab there. Lying is all the US does.

#18 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-09-28 12:07 PM | Reply

Lying is all the US does.

#18 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

I am getting the clear feeling that Putin is getting closer to being strung up by his heels or blowing out his own brains.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-28 12:16 PM | Reply

Why?

#20 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-09-28 12:22 PM | Reply

#20 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Because of your partisan hysterics in support of Mother Russia.

Serious question: What are you going to do once Putin is dead? I mean, that's the likely thing to happen here. He's driving his country into the ground. Shades of Germany in April, 1945.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-28 12:33 PM | Reply

Putin isn't Russia. Russia is doing its own thing. I will still be here in the US,talking ---- about US hypocrisy and militarism long after Putin is dead and gone.

I'm not pro Putin,I'm Anti US hegemony and warloving incitement.

I am an American citizen who hates my Own country's foreign policy.

Change that and I'm all America all the time.

#22 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-09-28 12:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Russia is doing its own thing.

#22 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Once Putin is dead-after being thrown out a window, perhaps- "Russia" will likely make a peace with Ukraine that leaves the Donbas and Crimea to them.

As a blow against hegemony, hypocrisy, and militarism.

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-28 12:48 PM | Reply

Thinking Putin is the only one pushing the annexation of the Crimea and Donbass is as stupid as thinking only Zelinsky wants an, "intact" Ukraine. This war is bigger than their personalities.

The US incited most of it by playing the sectional tensions within the Ukraine against each other.

That, and arming and encouraging Nazi thugs to kill Russian speakers.

The Russians mostly seem to support the war effort.

If Putin is killed it will more likely be the hardliners against Ukraine who will do it.

And that would be very bad for world peace and stability.

You better hope his health stays good.

#24 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-09-28 01:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If Putin dies we'd find out, wouldn't we?

I'd be good with that. Sooner the better.

#25 | Posted by YAV at 2022-09-28 02:11 PM | Reply

Talk about free and fair, private elections. Some armed folks show up at your door, and tell you to vote, and no need to seal the ballot, just fill it out and then go about your day.
Unless of course, you are one of the 2% who didn't get the word that a free and fair election is code for, vote for Putin and Russia or you get the other door...the one marked, death and disorder.

#26 | Posted by Hughmass at 2022-09-29 06:34 AM | Reply

You better hope his (Putin) health stays good.

#24 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

I've stated more than once that I hope he dies soon.

You think funny, or are corrupt, or both.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-29 08:01 AM | Reply

#24 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

What I've learned from supporters of Putin, Trump, and soon Meloni----Is that you people fully accept the monstrousness of such people for as long as they work towards your chosen political goals. Goals that frankly often carry large elements of aggression and revenge.

You are not you be trusted, you are to be feared. As something feared, you need to be contained. If you won't be contained, you should be destroyed. As has happened before. God willing, this time we do it with less than fifty-five million dead.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-29 08:39 AM | Reply

Back at ya. You are mirroring the Russian position. War is inevitable now. NATO involvement almost a given. Is there any off ramp short of total war?

I'm not in favor of wars. This whole thing was totally unnecessary.

Preventive wars are like committing suicide over the fear of death.

What you call for is frankly, insane.

#29 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-09-29 09:15 AM | Reply

#29 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Millions of Russians are hoping Putin will die as I write this.

He could resign and choose exile.

He will instead make some one kill him.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-29 10:29 AM | Reply

Or not. I don't know the future. If you do, got any stock tips I can use?

#31 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-09-29 11:02 AM | Reply

Secretariat in the third at Belmont.

#32 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-09-29 11:05 AM | Reply

Who the hell would ever desire to be ruled by the reanimated corpse of a failed corrupt state which exists only by being fed blood of others.

Face the fact that Ukraine cannot supply its own basic needs and rightfully should not exist.
All will tire of feeding it, sooner or later, as they are dragged into poverty.

But the leaders of this monstrosity? Oh, they're rich.

#33 | Posted by facthunt at 2022-09-29 11:26 AM | Reply

"Face the fact that Ukraine cannot supply its own basic needs and rightfully should not exist."

By this logic, the only nation that should exist is North Korea.

America can't even pick our own crops, half the farm labor force is undocumented.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-09-29 12:02 PM | Reply

cannot supply its own basic needs and rightfully should not exist.

#33 | POSTED BY FACTHUNT

Say goodbye to Mississippi, y'all.

I won't miss it.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2022-09-29 12:30 PM | Reply

"Once Putin is dead-after being thrown out a window, perhaps- "Russia" will likely make a peace with Ukraine that leaves the Donbas and Crimea to them."

I think you're being overly optimistic here. One of the few things that RussianTrollPoser is right about is that it's bigger than just Putin. It could either way with him taken out of the equation. Even if they reverse the official annexations, they could continue to passive aggressively support them as "independent" vassal states, like they do with Abkhazia and North Ossetia in Georgia.

#36 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-09-29 12:39 PM | Reply

Personally, I'd like to see Vlad handed over to the surviving family members of flight MH-17.

#37 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-09-29 12:42 PM | Reply

For the rest of Russia and its de facto vassal states, the rest of Europe and 'the West' needs to focus on finding the right combination of carrots and sticks. They have to be willing to blockade Russia if it doesn't get back in its lane and stay there, make it clear what the preconditions are for lifting any blockades or sanctions, and what they're willing to offer to address any concerns or needs that they have.

If the Russian Federation wants to continue playing these stupid games that it started when it invaded Georgia in 2008, then others should start giving them an equal taste of their own medicine.

#38 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-09-29 01:12 PM | Reply

The Russians like to use Kosovo as a pretext for their hegemonic behavior. The recognition of Kosovo as an independent country does appear to be a contentious issue - the lists of countries of that recognize or do not recognize it are both long. But even most of the ones that do not recognize Kosovo do not support Russia's behavior and see that's interference outside of its internationally recognized borders has gone way beyond any parallels with Kosovo.

This is a point that needs to be reiterated in response to Russian propaganda.

#39 | Posted by sentinel at 2022-09-29 01:44 PM | Reply

Face the fact that Ukraine cannot supply its own basic needs and rightfully should not exist.
All will tire of feeding it, sooner or later, as they are dragged into poverty.

That is deranged. Ukraine was the breadbasket of old USSR. Today's higher prices for so many things is because of Putin's ridiculous "I want to be seen as strong!" crisis war. Ukraine is rich with resources, food, and supplies the world with wheat.

#40 | Posted by YAV at 2022-09-29 03:40 PM | Reply

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