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Unfortunately, Ukraine can not be allowed NATO membership as long as it's in the middle of a war.

It's a rule.

Brandon discovered the fine print just in time.

#1 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-01 02:25 AM | Reply

Ukraine can not be allowed NATO membership as long as it's in the middle of a war.

Lucky for them it's just a "special operation".

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-01 02:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Unfortunately, Ukraine can not be allowed NATO membership as long as it's in the middle of a war.

It's a rule.

Brandon discovered the fine print just in time.

#1 | Posted by Monkeybars

That isn't a "rule" or roadblock to NATO membership. If you want to inform yourself you can check out the criteria at NATO's own website:

www.nato.int

#3 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-10-01 05:07 AM | Reply

That isn't a "rule" or roadblock to NATO membership.

It is.

If you want to inform yourself you can check out the criteria at NATO's own website

I have been well informed that you like to make up stuff.

NATO's website is a collection of good wishes and hugs and kisses. There is a reason why this rule is considered "fine print".

Article 5 will force NATO to defend any member that is attacked. So they make Ukraine a member and start a nuclear war with Russia the next day?

How dumb is that? How dumb are you?

#4 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-01 10:05 AM | Reply

www.atlanticcouncil.org

the main issue is that there is no recent precedent for NATO accepting a new member that is under partial occupation.

In other words, "it's a problem". And if it's not a problem, they'll make it a problem.

#5 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-01 10:21 AM | Reply

it' it's a rule.
It's fine print.
It's a problem.

#6 | Posted by memyselfini at 2022-10-01 01:51 PM | Reply

Ukraine can not be allowed NATO membership as long as it's in the middle of a war.
Lucky for them it's just a "special operation".
#2 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2022-10-01 02:31 AM

What better reason to protect the world from the emergent NAZI invasion? NATO membership will ensure that isn't Russia's responsibility.

You are welcome, Putin. Beautifully played.:]

#7 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2022-10-01 01:57 PM | Reply

It's all of the above depending on who has the mic. They are making it up as they go along.

Ukraine will not be NATO.

twitter.com

NATO condemns Russian annexation of Ukrainian territory, but alliance is not party to conflict - NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg

Now we cannot accept Ukraine into NATO - Stoltenberg

#8 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-01 01:58 PM | Reply

So they make Ukraine a member and start a nuclear war with Russia the next day?

With the invocation of Article 5, Allies can provide any form of assistance they deem necessary to respond to a situation. This is an individual obligation on each Ally and each Ally is responsible for determining what it deems necessary in the particular circumstances.

This assistance is taken forward in concert with other Allies. It is not necessarily military and depends on the material resources of each country. It is therefore left to the judgment of each individual member country to determine how it will contribute.


So, they can start a nuclear war the next day, or do nothing. Or anything in between.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-01 02:03 PM | Reply

"So, they can start a nuclear war the next day, or do nothing. Or anything in between."

Of course, we could just go ahead do all those things without Ukraine joining NATO...

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-01 02:05 PM | Reply

So, they can start a nuclear war the next day, or do nothing. Or anything in between.

So NATO is even more of a p***y than I thought....

Anyway, membership has been refused. And if it had gone ahead, Italy's new facist govt would have vetoes it anyway.

So... not happening.

Useless thread. Have fun. Be polite. Brush your teeth. Good night.

#11 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-01 02:08 PM | Reply

So NATO is even more of a p***y than I thought....

Well it's not Pakistan's issue, so don't lose sleep over it.

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-01 02:25 PM | Reply

I am not planning on losing any sleep. I said goodnight. Let me sleep. Go bother someone else.... I saw BOAZ coming this way.

#13 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-01 02:35 PM | Reply

#13 | Posted by Monkeybars

So go to sleep already and stop bothering others.

Psychology
selfishness, involving a sense of entitlement, a lack of empathy, and a need for admiration, as characterizing a personality type.
Psychoanalysis
self-centeredness arising from failure to distinguish the self from external objects, either in very young babies or as a feature of mental disorder.

Origin
early 19th century: via Latin from the Greek name Narkissos (see Narcissus) + -ism.

#14 | Posted by facthunt at 2022-10-01 02:41 PM | Reply

" Zelensky pledges never to talk to Putin
Ukraine will not negotiate with Moscow until Putin is replaced as president, Zelensky and his cabinet said "

Another case of narcissim. He's also entitled to all the money for feed and frock his entire zombie nation, plus sereaming for more more more

I seldom appreciate HK opinion because of secretive globalist influence, but sometimes must agree-
" Not wise' to let Ukraine join NATO " Kissinger
"

#15 | Posted by facthunt at 2022-10-01 02:48 PM | Reply

#4 | Posted by Monkeybars

Smarter than you, evidently. There is no "rule" that you cited.

#16 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-10-01 03:59 PM | Reply

Today Putin lost even more of the land he proclaimed to be part of Russia.

#17 | Posted by Tor at 2022-10-01 05:09 PM | Reply

Today Putin lost even more of the land he proclaimed to be part of Russia.

#17 | Posted by Tor

Yes, Lyman. Now they're on their way to liberate Kremmina in the East, and marching on Kherson in the South.

#18 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-10-01 08:56 PM | Reply

TOR

This guy, Mark Summer, does a fantastic job providing detailed daily updates.

#19 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-10-01 09:07 PM | Reply

Of course, we could just go ahead do all those things without Ukraine joining NATO...
#10 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Its just so much easier..... With Russia "annexing" if Ukraine is NATO we automatically invoking article 5.

#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-10-01 09:25 PM | Reply

There is no "rule" that you cited.
#16 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

What? WTF is the point of being in NATO if Article5 didn't exist?
www.nato.int

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-10-01 09:26 PM | Reply

#21 | Posted by oneironaut

Your post doesn't have anything to do with what's-his-face's false claim there's a rule you can't join NATO if you're involved in a war. There is no such rule, per se. That's setting aside the FACT it takes years to get NATO membership after an application and lots of requirements that need to be met.

#22 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-10-01 09:32 PM | Reply

Imagine what it would be like if Putin were to wake up one day and find out the Black Sea Fleet had been destroyed and US Marines were taking dumps in his summer palace.

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2022-10-01 09:56 PM | Reply

NATO chief said that "it has been clear for a long time that membership for Ukraine was not something that was imminent, not something which is relevant in the near future."

www.zerohedge.com

#24 | Posted by FasterDisaster at 2022-10-01 11:58 PM | Reply

Haven't seen a ZH link around here in a while! We must be scraping the bottom of the barrel.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-01 11:59 PM | Reply

What? WTF is the point of being in NATO if Article5 didn't exist?

There is no point. Don't listen to American-disUnity. He is just trying to act more clever than gawd and failing at it.

false claim there's a rule you can't join NATO if you're involved in a war.

Tell that to President Brandon. And his puppet WhateverBurg.

BTW, I had a good beauty sleep. Full ten hours (it's Sunday). Thank you for asking.

#26 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-02 05:55 AM | Reply

Don't worry your two sizes too small heart about it monkeypoo.

At the rate the Ukrainians are recapturing their country from the Russians it won't be that long before Russia is defeated and Russia's illegal war of aggression is over and Ukraine can easily join NATO and Putin can be held accountable for his war crimes by the international community.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-02 12:31 PM | Reply

Tell that to President Brandon. And his puppet WhateverBurg.
#26 | POSTED BY MONKEYBARS

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#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-02 12:35 PM | Reply

"Putin can be held accountable for his war crimes by the international community."

There will be a nuclear war before that will happen.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-02 12:37 PM | Reply

#28 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

It's tosserigelmain.

#30 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-02 12:38 PM | Reply

9 NATO members push for UKR membership

www.msn.com

Mostly the ones who remember what life looked like under Soviet Socialism.

#31 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-10-02 12:39 PM | Reply

Has he de-Pakid himself... just for us!?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-02 12:41 PM | Reply

He's just downwind.

#33 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-02 12:42 PM | Reply

Butt monkey needs to be banned he's clearly just another Russian troll.

#34 | Posted by Tor at 2022-10-02 01:01 PM | Reply

Oh no it is rigal.

Right now he could be helping his country rebuild instead he's fixated on us.

#35 | Posted by Tor at 2022-10-02 01:03 PM | Reply

he's clearly just another Russian troll.

I am not. I just want a show.

If Russia goes into the gutter, I am fine with that too.

#36 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-02 01:40 PM | Reply

There will be a nuclear war before that will happen.

#29 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Perhaps. As it stands right now.

Wars rarely end the way we think they will.

You never know what the universe will send Pooty's way.

It is a rare leader that has ever survived his own hubris.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-02 01:49 PM | Reply

"I am not. I just want a show."

A "show" is something you watch. It doesn't require your input.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-02 01:52 PM | Reply

It doesn't require your input.

Best things in life are for free.

#39 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-02 01:56 PM | Reply

If Russia goes into the gutter, I am fine with that too.

#36 | POSTED BY MONKEYPOO

You reveal your lack of a moral compass every time you post.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-02 01:57 PM | Reply

Meh

#41 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-02 02:00 PM | Reply

Better.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-02 02:03 PM | Reply

Meh meh

#43 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-02 02:04 PM | Reply

Look out Monkey! You're the chicken with the spot!

#44 | Posted by facthunt at 2022-10-02 02:15 PM | Reply

So monkeypoo is like a spotted chicken?

I heard that monkey tastes a bit like chicken. But more gamey and chewy.

And I do like chicken.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-02 02:30 PM | Reply

Dinnerboy...please don't fuss... I am watching a show here!

Make yourself useful and get the popcorn. "White People vs Other White People" is just getting interesting!

#46 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-02 02:43 PM | Reply

"Dinnerboy...please don't fuss... I am watching a show here!"

Ha. You blew it ------. You done gave it away.

You are the only one to ever call me that here. Like it was an insult or something. Probably is in Pakistan. But I do love dinner and that's for sure! You can call me anything you want but don't call me late for dinner!

And I will "fuss" if I wanna. It's free remember?

And get your own popcorn you mooch.

Enjoying the "show"? Enjoying watching millions suffer and cheering at unnecessary death and destruction speaks volumes about you and your morals.

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-02 02:52 PM | Reply

One week rigel is demanding sympathy when his country has a flood and the next he's jerking off to the suffering of people in other countries.

#48 | Posted by Tor at 2022-10-02 02:58 PM | Reply

You blew it ------. You done gave it away.

But I announced more than once on more than one occasion EXACTLY who I am. I didn't make a secret of it.

I guess you were taking a nap? Old folks do need their sleep... I get it.. and it's ok.

speaks volumes about you and your morals.

meh

#49 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-02 03:00 PM | Reply

I think they need an invitation first, then the application, then they drop marbles.

#50 | Posted by facthunt at 2022-10-02 03:39 PM | Reply

"I guess you were taking a nap?"

Yup. I do love my naps too! And I don't spend all day everyday here either.

But aren't we just full of ourselves today?

No. I don't follow you around hang on every stupid thing you say. Duh.

But anyway good luck with your lack of compassion and morals. I am sure Allah will reward you appropriately.

#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-02 03:43 PM | Reply

How many new pro putin pro trump usernames did effetterussian create this weekend? Putin must really be getting desperate.

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-02 03:55 PM | Reply

One week rigel is demanding sympathy when his country has a flood and the next he's jerking off to the suffering of people in other countries.

I don't remember "demanding sympathy". I do remember posting a few videos.....

But that was Gawd beating us up for our own stupidity. Not some other people.

Russia and Ukraine, on the other hand, is man beating up man. Nothing to do with Gawd and nature. Hence it's evil.

#53 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-03 12:24 AM | Reply

And the most evil of all is NATO .... and Brandon.... who won't let Ukraine become a NATO member, pulling out some "rule" out of their collective butt and shoving it up Ukraine's nostrils.

#54 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-03 12:26 AM | Reply

But aren't we just full of ourselves today?

We wuz bored.

I am sure Allah will reward you appropriately.

He did! He knows how much I love chew toys.

effetterussian

Ha! That Iranian is still lurking around here? Amazing....

#55 | Posted by Monkeybars at 2022-10-03 12:29 AM | Reply

Whenever I see Facthunt I think -------. Is that wrong?

#56 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-10-03 11:30 AM | Reply

Ukraine Applying for NATO Membership

The time to buy fire insurance is before the fire.

Putin rightly suspects that if the current war fails to achieve his objectives, Ukraine will be granted NATO membership and his desire to annex parts of Ukraine are loss forever. This will make him even more determined to tough it out. But, Putin is holding a losing hand and Ukraine/NATO will not be bluffed. He had best play his trump (no pun intended) card and see what happens or forever be ridiculed as the Russian president that lost the war. Either way, he is a loser.

#57 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2022-10-03 12:11 PM | Reply

" Zelensky pledges never to talk to Putin
Ukraine will not negotiate with Moscow until Putin is replaced as president, Zelensky and his cabinet said "
Another case of narcissim. He's also entitled to all the money for feed and frock his entire zombie nation, plus sereaming for more more more
I seldom appreciate HK opinion because of secretive globalist influence, but sometimes must agree-
" Not wise' to let Ukraine join NATO " Kissinger"
#15 | POSTED BY FACTHUNT AT 2022-10-01 02:48 PM

Hunty, you missed the "so long as Ukraine is annexed" part. It's kinda important. The "crux of the issue", kind of importance.

"Any annexation in the modern world is a crime, a crime against all states that consider the inviolability of border to be vital for themselves," Mr Zelensky said.

He accused Russia of destroying "the main body of international law", and responding to "any proposals for talks with a new brutality on the battlefield, with even greater crisis and threats to Ukraine and the world".

"Russia's recognition of these sham referenda as normal, the implementation of the so-called Crimean scenario and another attempt to annex Ukrainian territory, will mean that there is nothing to talk about with this president of Russia," Mr Zelensky said.

Also, when you agree with Henry Vicissitude Kissinger.. you are on the wrong side of history.

#58 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2022-10-04 02:57 AM | Reply

So, is Kosovo Serbia,or not?

If not, is that a crime against Serbia by NATO?

Kosovo is NOT recognized as independent by half the world,are they wrong?

If Russia is wrong about annexing the Donbass?

Is NATO wrong for partitioning Serbia?

When does Serbia get Kosovo back?

The territorial integrity of nations is at stake so I just know NATO will give Kosovo back any day now.

#59 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-10-04 03:14 AM | Reply

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