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Sunday, October 02, 2022

Matthew Yglesias: A little dose of hypocrisy is nothing new in politics. But DeSantis's rise to political stardom since becoming governor has been characterized by an unusual level of indulgence in free-lunch politics. And this has been the story of much of his tenure: He bashes big government while benefiting from its largesse.

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Florida, it must be said, is a perfect laboratory for what might be called free-lunch conservatism. Not only is it in regular need of federal assistance for hurricane relief, its economy is also unusually dependent on the federal welfare state. Florida has the second-highest share of citizens over 65 (after Maine) and it's second in per-patient Medicare spending (after New Jersey) - meaning that the federal government is injecting vast sums of money into the local economy. Meanwhile, the state's leaders brag about not having an income tax and its conservative representatives in Washington complain about excessive spending.

One is inclined to say this brand of free-lunch conservatism can't possibly take DeSantis all the way to the White House. But the truth is, it might.

There is a growing belief among conservatives that trying to harmonize Republican donors' aversion to taxes with the Republican electorate's dependence on government programs is more trouble than it's worth - and that belief helps explain DeSantis's rise as a national figure. Rather than criticizing his irresponsible and hypocritical approach to fiscal matters, conservatives are increasingly embracing it as the way forward.

For now, DeSantis gets to be the governor of a state whose coffers are pumped full of federal stimulus money he opposes, while collecting emergency relief funding he doesn't believe other states deserve, while his citizens disproportionately benefit from federal spending he says is excessive. Nice work if you can get it - and while it lasts.

Found this little as yet unsubstantiated rant and decided to share.
I talked to my sister last night who lives near Orlando, she told me Desantis and his wife are on TV every day over and over telling people don't send food and water donate money directly to the state instead. The person who's in charge of the state donation fund is his wife.

RN MSN CNO

Florida folks, is this what it appears to be?

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-02 04:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Free Lunch Conservatism

Trying to convert the Lizzo demo, one presumes. But like other toxins, liberalism resides in the fat cells and is not so easily cleansed.

#2 | Posted by LEGALLYDORKY at 2022-10-02 04:42 PM | Reply

^^^
This stump-toothed fatty's favorite free lunch consists of a pantload of Ted Nugent droppings.

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-10-02 05:15 PM | Reply

This fat turd needs to be flushed.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-10-02 10:14 PM | Reply

For too many in Florida being bailed out by Rescue Services and the federal government is clearly a lifestyle choice. Don't build in floodplains or where you know there will be a hurricane every damn year.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2022-10-02 11:02 PM | Reply

Don't build in floodplains or where you know there will be a hurricane every damn year.

Exactly.

The proliferation of impervious cover is the reason hurricanes become more "destructive".

When you pave over good rangeland and prairie that water has no place to go.

Keep your stupid ass in town and keep gentrifying the Hoods to make way for the insufferable ----- who "code" for a living. Tear it down and make it better.

My side has to keep pushing for agricultural Land Trusts and Conservation Easements so we're not selling farms and ranches for subdivisions.

There's a certain kind of person we need to remain in the urban environment.

#6 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-02 11:20 PM | Reply

"Don't build in floodplains or where you know there will be a hurricane every damn year"

Said every soy latte drinking, soy boi, in skinny jeans sportin' a man-bun who never werked in a refinery.

Yet they all drive a fossil fueled auto - even if it's electric.

#7 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2022-10-03 12:20 AM | Reply

The grift is Fed bucks! The reddest states got the infusion centers that did nothing unless you had covid.

#8 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-10-03 02:38 AM | Reply

I talked to my sister last night who lives near Orlando, she told me Desantis and his wife are on TV every day over and over telling people don't send food and water donate money directly to the state instead. The person who's in charge of the state donation fund is his wife.

RN MSN CNO

Florida folks, is this what it appears to be?

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-02 04:42 PM | Reply

Well, yeah, he would want that...so him and his wife decked out in "DeSanturd for Governor" swag (a violation of campaign finance laws) can hand out food and cash to Floridians they deem worthy.

I watched a woman on the news this morning sobbing because she was turned away from a National Guard site because she doesn't have a car to pick up food. Heckuva job there Brownie.

#9 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-10-03 07:46 AM | Reply

Don't build in floodplains or where you know there will be a hurricane every damn year.

Victim shaming is never a good look.

#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-10-03 07:47 AM | Reply

The proliferation of impervious cover is the reason hurricanes become more "destructive".

#6 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT AT

Impervious cover causes storm surges? Who knew?

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2022-10-03 08:01 AM | Reply

NIXON

"can hand out food and cash to Floridians they deem worthy."

It's worse than that. DeSantis has been caught skimming large sums of money off the top for years to feather the nest for his 2024 presidential campaign.

#12 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-10-03 08:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yet they all drive a fossil fueled auto - even if it's electric.

#7 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS A

I don't have an electric yet. It will be my next car. I plan to charge it off my wind turbine. I won't be alone.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2022-10-03 08:09 AM | Reply

I sense wind direction has shifted, no pun intended. "Conservatives", after decades of denying global warming, now find it useful to blame Liberals for its effects.

If this country survives in good shape, or in any shape at all, it won't be due to people like Trump or DeSantis or anyone who follows them. Hate to break it to you boys, but Trump Fascists are not problem solvers. They are into government for reasons entirely divorced from making something better.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2022-10-03 08:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hey let's charter an ajet liner for $600,000.00 to fly 58 asylum seeking Venezuelan refugees, every bit as legitimate as were Cuban refugees in earlier eras, to a ridiculous destination like Marth's Vinyard FROM TEXAS as a purely political stunt using taxpayer's money as if it was your own and then pretend to be a good Governor of Florida when in reality he is really using his office and state government money to grsndstand for his campaign for President.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2022-10-03 08:34 AM | Reply

"Don't build in floodplains or where you know there will be a hurricane every damn year."

The don't build where tornadoes can exist or floods, or earthquakes, or huge forest fires, or pretty much any natural disaster: translation: DON'T BUILD ANYTHING ANYWHERE!.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2022-10-03 08:42 AM | Reply

The proliferation of impervious cover is the reason hurricanes become more "destructive".
#6 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT

Where did that impervious cover come from again?

#17 | Posted by JasonM at 2022-10-03 08:48 AM | Reply

Don't build in floodplains or where you know there will be a hurricane every damn year.

Victim shaming is never a good look.

#10 | POSTED BY NIXON AT 2022-10-03 07:47 AM | REPLY |

I agree with the first statement, but with a caveat. If you choose to build in a flood plain you need to build to the highest, most flood resistant standards, pay high insurance premiums that accurately assess your risk, and take responsibility for yourself, your home and your family, and not expect the government to rescue you.

Building codes and zoning regulations have tightened considerably since Hurricane Andrew. You will find most of the destruction is older structures that would not pass current building codes.

#18 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-03 08:57 AM | Reply

One of the biggest issues with evacuations is pets. Shelters have become more accommodating since Katrina, but no shelter is going to accept a menagerie. I saw a family being evacuated by helicopter with their 17 dogs. If you choose to live in a flood zone you can't choose to have 17 dogs as well.

#19 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-03 09:04 AM | Reply

I got 4 feet of storm surge, my entire property was 1' underwater and we lost power for 2 days That was not a problem for me because my house is elevated on piers 12', I have impact windows and storm shutters and a generator, I always have at least a weeks supply of food, water and fuel. I prepared in advance by moving boats and vehicles to a relative's home at a higher elevation, and I was ready to evacuate at any moment. When the storm path changed, putting us in more peril, I was ready with a suitcase packed and a hotel reservation in Georgia made days prior. I didn't go to Georgia, but I did go inland a ways to a relatives home, mainly to avoid the inconvenience of being stuck on the island. By the next morning, cleanup was underway. We are used to this.

I'm not trying to impress anyone with my preparations, this is what you HAVE to do if you choose to live in a disaster prone area, and if you aren't willing to do that then don't live there.

#20 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-03 09:25 AM | Reply

Victim shaming is never a good look.

#10 | POSTED BY NIXON

It's the hard truth that we ignore year after year after year.

Short sighted greed is going to cause us to dump another couple dozen billion dollars into rebuilding an area that was just rebuilt in 2004-2005.

Sorry, but that's unacceptable to me.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2022-10-03 10:05 AM | Reply

#21

Per an earlier discussion, this has already been addressed.

Why Many Homes and Buildings in Punta Gorda Still Stand

Buildings constructed using modern codes have a slew of structural advantages that can help them better withstand extreme weather, including major storms. For instance, updated codes often have stricter requirements around "structural load continuity," which involves ensuring that a roof is well-connected to walls and the walls are well-connected to the structure's foundation, Rajkovich said. Even a small failure in the "building envelope," or the walls, roof, foundation, doors and windows, can lead to catastrophe.

"Our built environment protects us as human beings," Baughman McLeod said. "The stronger that built environment is against the winds and the water and the rain, the more we survive and the more protected our economic assets are.

"Building codes are one of the strongest ways that government can protect people and property from climate-driven hurricanes."

#22 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-03 10:11 AM | Reply

"he second-highest share of citizens over 65 (after Maine) and it's second in per-patient Medicare spending (after New Jersey) - meaning that the federal government is injecting vast sums of money into the local economy."

SS is 100% paid for out of the SS Trust fund which has accumulated entirely from SS taxes paid by today's recipients during their lifetimes spent working. Medicare is paid for by people on Medicare now and all during their working lives. Biggest industry in Florida? Tolerating a******s from up north when the come down vacationing.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2022-10-04 09:54 AM | Reply

"he second-highest share of citizens over 65 (after Maine) and it's second in per-patient Medicare spending (after New Jersey) - meaning that the federal government is injecting vast sums of money into the local economy."

SS is 100% paid for out of the SS Trust fund which has accumulated entirely from SS taxes paid by today's recipients during their lifetimes spent working. Medicare is paid for by people on Medicare now and all during their working lives. Biggest industry in Florida? Tolerating a******s from up north when the come down vacationing.

#24 | Posted by danni at 2022-10-04 09:54 AM | Reply

Miranda sort of makes perfect sense there but many or even mosr won't follow advice. Also, a real crackdown on insurance fraud should be pursued, it is rampant.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2022-10-04 10:00 AM | Reply

Agreed. At least half the money for Ian will go to small time crooks submitting fraudulent claims.

#26 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-04 11:53 AM | Reply

"He bashes big government while benefiting from its largesse."

Hateful Hypocrites doing what hateful hypocrites do.

God stepped in and stopped his human trafficking stunts for the time being. Now he has his hands full just actually doing his job.

Too bad so many had to die and so many lives were destroyed just to slow down a hypocrite and stop him from being cruel and hateful to others. (For the moment)

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-04 05:13 PM | Reply

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