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At least two more minors made pregnant by sexual assault were forced to leave Ohio to avoid having their rapists' babies, according to sworn affidavits filed by abortion providers.

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The descriptions include those of three women who threatened suicide. They also include two women with cancer who couldn't terminate their pregnancies and also couldn't get cancer treatment while they were pregnant.

Another three examples were of women whose fetuses had severe abnormalities or other conditions that made a successful pregnancy impossible. Even so, they couldn't get abortions in Ohio.

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In 2021, Ohio's Children's Advocacy Centers saw 6,717 cases of sexual abuse against Ohioans between infancy and adulthood. And in 2020, the most recent year for which statistics are available, 571 girls aged 17 or younger received abortions in Ohio, according to the state department of health. Fifty-two of them ' or one a week ' were 14 or younger.

#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-10-04 04:29 PM | Reply

and More:

Dr. Adarsh E. Krishen, chief medical officer for Planned Parenthood of Greater Ohio, told of a minor who had been sexually assaulted and had to travel to Michigan for an abortion because of SB 23. Krishen's organization operates clinics in Columbus and Cleveland.

"This patient experienced immense trauma from the assault itself and then endured further trauma from a forensic interview alongside a physical exam to collect evidence for the ongoing police investigation," Krishen said in his affidavit. "This trauma was further exacerbated by needing to wait over three weeks for her appointment. In each step of this process she felt the complete denial of bodily autonomy and safety, something all people, especially children, should unequivocally have at all times."

{SNIP}

Another example shows how SB 23 makes police investigation of child and teen rapes more difficult.

Aeran Trick, operations manager of Women's Med Center of Dayton, told of "a 16-year-old girl living in Southwestern Ohio who had become pregnant after being sexually assaulted by a family member."

As with the 10-year-old from Columbus, Trick said this teenager was forced to go to Indianapolis for an abortion.

"The local Ohio law-enforcement agency ' which was already involved at the time the clinic was contacted about the patient ' had to drive to our Indianapolis clinic to retrieve the tissue for crime lab testing related to the sexual assault investigation," Trick said in the affidavit. She adds the need to travel increasingly far distances to obtain abortion care could "hamper law enforcement's ability to investigate and prosecute these cases in the future."

Yeah, let's make it harder to investigate----------.

#2 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-10-04 04:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's just not true.
--Miranda7

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-04 04:30 PM | Reply

And Even More:

In the days after SB 23 took effect, a pregnant 25-year-old went to a clinic operated by Planned Parenthood of Southwest Ohio, said Liner, the medical director there. The patient had recurrent cancer and was undergoing chemotherapy when she learned that she was pregnant.

Chemotherapy is dangerous during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy and this patient had already skipped one treatment. But when the clinic determined that she was eight weeks pregnant, workers there said they couldn't perform an abortion, Liner said.

"Due to the patient having cancer while pregnant, we sought documentation to support a medical exception to S.B. 23 for this patient," Liner said in her affidavit. "Her provider of care did not feel comfortable providing this and the patient had to travel out of state for an abortion to resume her cancer treatment, which caused further delay."

Just three days after SB 23 took effect, a 37-year-old suffering from stage III melanoma went to Women's Med Center in Dayton, Trick, the operations manager there, said. The woman was told by her doctors that she had to terminate her pregnancy before they could treat her, so she, too, would have to leave the state, Trick said.

it was known that these situations would happen when you outlaw abortion.

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-10-04 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Can someone explain to me why a doctor who performs an abortion can be criminally charged but the woman can't, even though she is an accessory to the crime?

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-10-04 04:34 PM | Reply

Miranda is certain girls wanting to go to spring break get abortions. Especially at 40 weeks.

She doesn't need proof. Someone told her it's the truth. And that's good enough for her.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-10-04 04:35 PM | Reply

If children don't want to be raped maybe they should move to a blue state!

Boaz

#7 | Posted by memyselfini at 2022-10-04 11:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The absence of conservative voices is truly a sight to behold.

Just sitting back and watching.

They're the people the Nazis drilled peep holes into the gas chambers for.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 12:02 AM | Reply

Are there no conservative judges in Ohio that vomit when they hear what is happening and allow these children and their parents to make decisions without politicians interference?

#9 | Posted by Tor at 2022-10-05 12:08 AM | Reply

#8 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

If there was any money to be made in smelling your own farts, you'd be rich.

#10 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-10-05 01:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#8 | POSTED BY SNOOFY
If there was any money to be made in smelling your own farts, you'd be rich.
#10 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Sheeple is proud to drink e-girls bathwater. Did your mom throw out your hentai body pillow there, big guy?

#11 | Posted by Sycophant at 2022-10-05 09:32 AM | Reply

You couldn't make me spend a second in Ohio. Or any money. I hope what few good people are left there leave asap.

#12 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-10-05 12:52 PM | Reply

We have Desantis and Rubio trying to do the same thing here in Florida and nationally too.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2022-10-05 01:08 PM | Reply

The commercials for both are so crazy only a complete moron would believe them. But then, I think that is what both of then think their supporters are, and they're both right.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2022-10-05 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If there was any money to be made in smelling your own farts, you'd be rich.

#10 | Posted by SheepleSchism

So you come to the thread just to toss a random insult at someone.

Nothing to say about the horrible results of your party's horrible policies?

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-05 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If children don't want to be raped by us Putin Pedophiles maybe they should move to a blue state! - BOAZ, VISITOR, SHEEPSH*T, MIRANDA, FISHPAW, MAO and the rest of the PUTIN PEDOPHILES.

#16 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-10-05 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

These so-called children who claim they were raped (they were probably dressed like hussies) should be sent to Texas, where rape has been outlawed. That will cure them...
--Right-Wing dolts, spiteful over state socialism taking over the lives of pregnant teens

#17 | Posted by catdog at 2022-10-05 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Miranda is certain girls wanting to go to spring break get abortions. Especially at 40 weeks.

She doesn't need proof. Someone told her it's the truth. And that's good enough for her.

#6 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2022-10-04 04:35 PM | FLAG:

I didn't say anything like that. You are such a desperate little troll, just looking for a fight.

#18 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-05 06:34 PM | Reply

get abortions. Especially at 40 weeks.

She doesn't need proof. Someone told her it's the truth. And that's good enough for her.

#6 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2022-10-04 04:35 PM | FLAG:

I didn't say anything like that. You are such a desperate little troll, just looking for a fight.

#18 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Yes you did
You equated women killing their newborns to abortion

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-10-05 07:06 PM | Reply

Nope I didn't, there you go lying again, TRUTHHURtS. I didn't equate anything. That's your active imagination. Once again done with you. You are INCAPABLE of truth. The three of you are disgusting, slimy little liars.

#20 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-05 08:45 PM | Reply

I didn't post on this thread at all, and if you want to drag up ---- from 6 month old threads,, you better put it in quotes and get it right, because I didn't say what either of you are attributing to me, you revolting little ----s.

#21 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-05 08:48 PM | Reply

Nope I didn't, there you go lying again, TRUTHHURtS. I didn't equate anything. That's your active imagination. Once again done with you. You are INCAPABLE of truth. The three of you are disgusting, slimy little liars.

#20 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7 A

Did you or did you not argue against late term abortions because of women you knew from your job as a police officer who killed their newborns? IIRC at least one was so she could go on a vacation.

#22 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-10-05 09:07 PM | Reply

Yes you did
You equated women killing their newborns to abortion

#19 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Nope I didn't, there you go lying again, TRUTHHURtS. I didn't equate anything. That's your active imagination. Once again done with you. You are INCAPABLE of truth. The three of you are disgusting, slimy little liars.

#20 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

I didn't post on this thread at all, and if you want to drag up ---- from 6 month old threads,, you better put it in quotes and get it right, because I didn't say what either of you are attributing to me, you revolting little ----s.

#21 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

It may be rare, but it does happen. In several states a girl can get a 40th week abortion because it interferes with her summer vacation plans.
Now you're just posting hyperbole.
I have investigated several infanticides where newborns have been killed by their mothers, including one who killed her "secret" baby so she could go on a cruise with her "secret" boyfriend. The kind of woman who would do this exists and would not hesitate to abort a 40 week fetus if the procedure was available. It's not a stretch to believe some have. Hopefully there are not a lot of doctors who would go along with this, but its also not a stretch to believe some would. Truthhurts would.

POSTED BY MIRANDA7 AT 2022-07-28 08:39 PM | REPLY

OOOPS

Here let me copy the salient points:

"I have investigated several infanticides where newborns have been killed by their mothers..."

"The kind of woman who would do this exists and would not hesitate to abort a 40 week fetus if the procedure was available."

Right there you equated women who kill their newborns with women who seek an abortion. Right there is black and white.

Here let me copy the clear equation: "The kind of woman who would do this exists and would not hesitate to abort a 40 week fetus"

Do you see it Miranda? Do you see the equivalence you are drawing?

Oh and we have this little doozy to confirm what Mr. Clownshack stated:"including one who killed her "secret" baby so she could go on a cruise with her "secret" boyfriend" while technically not definitively "spring break" it certainly satisfies the intent of what Mr. Clownshack posted.

Truth Hurts

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-10-05 09:21 PM | Reply

"slimy little liars"

Title of upcoming flick about the Retort?

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-10-05 10:05 PM | Reply

Nope. Months ago, I went around in circles with you for days while you repeatedly misquoted, manipulated and misinterpreted my words, then argued against those mischaracterizations. That's why I stopped talking to you. It's imposssible to have an adult conversation with someone who engages in a constant barrage of strawman style arguments.

You don't get to read what I wrote then declare that I "meant" something different, then argue against what you think I actually meant. That's intellectually dishonest and obnoxiously arrogant, but here you go again.

The first two sentences in quotes under "salient points" are probably accurate, but missing tons of important context from several days of discussion. the third line "Right there you equated women who kill their newborns with women who seek an abortion. Right there is black and white. " came entirely from your imagination and doesn't logically follow from the quiotes. I suggest you review Venn diagramming.

I related my FACTUAL work experiences, (including the woman who had an abortion so he could go on a cruise) which were very specific, and you (and Clown and Snoofy) tried to turn it into GENERAL opinions about abortion. That is intellectually dishonest. This is your game and I'm not going to continue to play it. ---- off.

#25 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-05 10:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Clarification,
The discussion ensued because Truth insisted no regulation of late term abortion was necessary because no woman would ever get a late term abortion unless her life was in danger. I disagreed. I have worked several infanticide cases, including a woman who sought a late term abortion for a secret pregnancy for convenience reasons. This is not permitted in FL, but is legal in several states, with no medical justification required. Ultimately she gave birth and suffocated the baby, then deposited it in a dumpster then departed on a cruise with her secret boyfriend. My point is that a woman who wou,d do something like that wouldn't hesitate to have a 40 week abortion.

From this story came Truths claims that I "equated" women who seek abortions" with "women who kill newborns"

#26 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-05 11:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jesus Miranda, you are doing it again!

"I related my FACTUAL work experiences, (including the woman who had an abortion so he could go on a cruise)"

Your example that I quoted: "I have investigated several infanticides where newborns have been killed by their mothers, including one who killed her "secret" baby so she could go on a cruise with her "secret" boyfriend."

The example you provided was infanticide ie killing a newborn. You are now calling that act an abortion. YOU ARE EQUATING ABORTION WITH INFANTICIDE!

Infanticide and abortion are NOT equal. One simple example of the difference-An abortion requires a medical professional or several medical professionals to perform. Infanticide does not. Abortion happens to a fetus in the womb. Infanticide occurs outside the womb. THOSE ARE HUGE DIFFERENCES!

IOW abortion and infanticide have zero to do with each other and infanticide has zero place in a discussion on abortion.

I am sorry you refuse to admit the simple observable truth of your own plain words.

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-10-05 11:06 PM | Reply

drudge.com

Feel free to follow the context of your statement.

#32 Clownshack (essentially) claims third trimester abortions are not taken lightly by the woman

#33 you post the following: "You're insane if you believe otherwise. Nope, Ive seen it with my own eyes. It may be rare, but it does happen. In several states a girl can get a 40th week abortion because it interferes with her summer vacation plans. If that doesn't really happen, then why does restricting it concern you?"

#33 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

#38 Clownshack accuses you of hyperbole for your statement in #33

and #40 is the money quote: "It may be rare, but it does happen. In several states a girl can get a 40th week abortion because it interferes with her summer vacation plans.
Now you're just posting hyperbole.
I have investigated several infanticides where newborns have been killed by their mothers, including one who killed her "secret" baby so she could go on a cruise with her "secret" boyfriend. The kind of woman who would do this exists and would not hesitate to abort a 40 week fetus if the procedure was available. It's not a stretch to believe some have. Hopefully there are not a lot of doctors who would go along with this, but its also not a stretch to believe some would. Truthhurts would."

#40 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

So, please explain how I am wrong because of "context". Miranda, this is objective reality. They are YOUR words. You equate infanticide with abortion. Own it, it is at least a logical argument-ie no difference between unborn and born.

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-10-05 11:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Omg your imagination is out of control. You just can't even read without injecting your own fantasy world into it. You are the only one equating the two get a life and please keep me out of it. Find someone e,we to pick your petty little word game fights with you. A therapist would be a good place to start.

#29 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-05 11:23 PM | Reply

If children don't want to be raped by us Putin Pedophiles maybe they should move to a blue state! - BOAZ, VISITOR, SHEEPSH*T, MIRANDA, FISHPAW, MAO and the rest of the PUTIN PEDOPHILES.
#16 | POSTED BY ENLIGHTENED

How is it possible that one website could attract so many disturbed and deranged extremist leftards?

What are the odds?

#30 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2022-10-05 11:26 PM | Reply

#29

Do yourself a favor and start using the plonk feature, MIRANDA.

Clearly, you're not interested in being challenged. Worse, you willfully ignore context repeatedly.

Hope you stick around, but I doubt you will.

#31 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-10-05 11:33 PM | Reply

Nope I don't mind being challenged at all ... .by intellectually honest grown ups. I still include you in that group. What context have I repeatedly ignored? I.ve been around longer than you, but you're right, I probably won't stick around. This place has severely declined in recent years.

#32 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-05 11:50 PM | Reply

#32

Fair enough. And agree with your latter remarks. Though, I believe it has to do with some deaths of prominent members here more than anything else. Time conquers all.

#33 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-10-06 12:30 AM | Reply

#30 | POSTED BY SWALLOWSTRUMPJISM

This degenerate's claim to fame is blowing up a hospital in Grenada.

#34 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-10-06 01:08 AM | Reply

Miranda is too stupid to understand when they are had. Has a reading and comprehension of a 3rd grader just like the------------ he loves.

#35 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-10-06 11:45 AM | Reply

The ancient Romans let you drop a kid off at the edge of town if you did not want it (babies ended up in prostitution). Looks like in 2000 years we forgot that life is not perfect. Society needs to deal with all exceptions.

#36 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-10-06 12:44 PM | Reply

Miranda is too stupid to understand when they are had. Has a reading and comprehension of a 3rd grader just like the------------ he loves.

#35 | Posted by Enlightened at 2022-10-06 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

You really are projecting again. You are the one who is obsessed with talking about Trump. I don't like him, didn't vote for him, rarely even talk about him, but you are too dim witted and slow to figure that out. So obsessed with your desire to have enemies here to spit your nasty venom at that you make up positions for them instead of actually comprehending what they have to say. You fit right in and I'm sure several like minded dim wits will chime in to defend you in your ignorance.

#37 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-06 01:41 PM | Reply

For those who think I have been "had" I invite you to enjoy the entire 6 month old thread TROOTHY" the troll has repeatedly resurrected and generously linked above. Apparently he/she/it is obsessed with me and can't let it go. You may read it over and over again if it gives you satisfaction. I have no interest in revisiting his/her/its endless strawman arguments and mischaracterizations of what I posted, and it is the reason I no longer engage with or respond to with him/her/it, along with Snoofy and now Clown.

I did not even POST on this thread (or several others) yet some of you feel the need to invoke my name, drag in old posts and hurl childish insults at me to draw me out judst so they have someone to fight with. The echo chamber must be getting boring for you basement dwelling bullies. To those I have directly insulted, scroll back and see why....I treat everyone (and their differing opinions) with respect until they insult me, then I strike back.

#38 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-06 01:56 PM | Reply

They're the people the Nazis drilled peep holes into the gas chambers for.

#8 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Nahh they're the willfully blind Germans who, while being forced to bury the bodies at the camps by allied forces, claimed they had no idea. None whatsoever!

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2022-10-06 02:06 PM | Reply

"I treat everyone (and their differing opinions) with respect until they insult me, then I strike back."

There is no point in making a point with people that have no point. Let their hot air attacks just fade into nothing. They are anger addicts that get off on making people angry (like them).

#40 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-10-06 03:12 PM | Reply

My point is that a woman who wou,d do something like that wouldn't hesitate to have a 40 week abortion.
From this story came Truths claims that I "equated" women who seek abortions" with "women who kill newborns"
#26 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Sure sounds like you are equating women who commit infanticide with women who get late term abortion.

What am I missing?

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 03:19 PM | Reply

"I have investigated several infanticides where newborns have been killed by their mothers..."

"The kind of woman who would do this exists and would not hesitate to abort a 40 week fetus if the procedure was available."

Right there you equated women who kill their newborns with women who seek an abortion. Right there is black and white.

^
This

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 03:21 PM | Reply

From this story came Truths claims that I "equated" women who seek abortions" with "women who kill newborns"
#26 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

^
Oh, I get it.

Some women who get late term abortions are the same as women who commit infanticide.

How many is some?

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 03:24 PM | Reply

"The kind of woman who would do this exists and would not hesitate to abort a 40 week fetus if the procedure was available."

This 100% sounds like you are equating late term elective abortion with legal murder.

Do you equate late term elective abortion with legal murder? Yes or no.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 03:31 PM | Reply

This should not be a complicated issue for people with any basic morality.

A child that is raped should not be compelled to carry the child to birth.

End of analysis.

#45 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-10-06 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#45 Yep, I agree completely,Moder.

#46 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-06 11:29 PM | Reply

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