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Wednesday, October 05, 2022

Governor DeSantis, during an exclusive interview with the right-of-center Florida's Voice website, was asked if there would be any "accountability in the media" for reporting that the storm had been forecast to strike the Tampa Bay area. "Quite frankly, you have national regime media that ... wanted to see Tampa, because they thought that would be worse for Florida. That's how these people think," DeSantis said, in an interview publicized Tuesday morning.

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He's not wrong.

#1 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 11:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

"They don't care about the people of this state. They don't care about the people of this community. They want to use storms and destruction from storms as a way to advance their agenda. And they don't care what destruction's in their wake. They don't care about the lives here. If they can use it to pursue their political agenda, they will do it," DeSantis asserted, without explaining what agenda could be served by a storm striking a major population center.

DeSantis didn't offer specific examples of "regime media" malefactors in his Florida's Voice interview, but he has shown a propensity to mix it up with national reporters covering Ian's aftermath with a critical eye toward how the state handled the run-up to the storm.

His General Election opponent condemned the "disgusting" remarks.

"A true leader is accountable for their words and deeds. It is disgusting to see Ron DeSantis blame anyone and everyone, whether it's the media or Floridians who are trying to help their neighbors, rather than own up to his failure of leadership," asserted Democrat Charlie Crist.

Well that didn't take long. I wonder how quickly those who claimed that the NOAA/GFS hurricane tracks were simply off to now mimic DeSantis' absurd assertions that the weather service had malevolent intent behind Ian's mis-tracking.

Forever the victim and always justified in attacking because the other side deserves to be punished for its feelings, actions, or simply their existence. The fascist state of Florida indeed, led by their own dictator spewing lies and fomenting anger and distrust in service of his own political agendas.

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 11:29 AM | Reply

"for reporting that the storm had been forecast to strike the Tampa Bay area."

Miranda7, was the storm ever forecast to hit the Tampa Bay area?

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 11:55 AM | Reply

... wanted to see Tampa, because they thought that would be worse for Florida. That's how these people think

What an idiot. The more people affected by an event, the more people will watch it on the news so they can sell more stuff. Some of the most powerful storms in history have spent weeks spinning around out in the Atlantic and don't even get mentioned in the news because they don't hit any land. I see a lot of noise about Ian being the only storm this year but it was the 9th named storm and 4th hurricane. If a hurricane hit Martha's Vineyard DeSantis would be hailing it as a sign from God.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-05 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He's the victim of the media?

Trump must be furious at DeSantis for stealing his playbook.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-10-05 12:02 PM | Reply

was the storm ever forecast to hit the Tampa Bay area

It was at one point. Ian consistently tracked farther east than predicted so the predicted landfall target kept moving south along the west coast of Florida.

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-05 12:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's always about him, he's always the victim, and he's always whining. Such a loser.

#7 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-10-05 12:05 PM | Reply

I don't see him "whining" at all.

He's just stating what everyone knows.

Like I wrote last week:

[Florida took a Hit] Sure it did. But it would have been better had it hit the Tampa Metro area.
You couldn't ask for better optics to overlay your banal -------- about "climate change" and "FEMA Aid" and "Disproportionate Impacts to Marginalized Communities" for at least a couple more weeks.
Ah, what could have been. :(

#8 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 12:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Maybe they'll get another school shooting as a consolation prize for the disappointment of the storm not hitting Tampa.

Got about a month to go.

#9 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 12:12 PM | Reply

The more people affected by an event, the more people will watch it on the news so they can sell more stuff.

And the more the Regime Media can politicize major weather events and the response efforts to them.

It's a game.

#10 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 12:14 PM | Reply

I looked it up... NOAA/NHC had a hurricane warning up for Tampa Bay for most of the day on Monday 26th.

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-05 12:17 PM | Reply

most of the day on Monday 26th.

Make that the 27th... first warning was 23:00 on the 26th.

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-05 12:18 PM | Reply

It's absolutely hilarious to see Alpha Pinche feeding safely from DeSantis and Trump's hands, like a goat at the petting zoo.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 12:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"They don't care about the people of this state. They don't care about the people of this community. They want to use storms and destruction from storms as a way to advance their agenda. And they don't care what destruction's in their wake. They don't care about the lives here. If they can use it to pursue their political agenda, they will do it,"

^
To be a Conservative,
You must first be a Victim.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 12:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He's not wrong.

#1 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT

Because he agrees with you? So that is how you think?

You and he are only showing us how YOU magaheads think.

Normal people don't think that way.

While of course there will be a certain amount of schadenfreude over any great tragedy no one really wanted Floriduh to be destroyed and the people made homeless.

Most of us realize that there but for the grace of the gods go I.

But by being and arrogant hateful does appear to have brought the wrath of the gods upon him and his people doesn't it? And it is certainly ironic that now instead of trafficking humans out they need to lure them migrants back to help rebuild.

And actually if you want to know the truth NOAA (being a part of the deep state and full of evil scientists) probably steered it into Floriduh on porpoise. You know. To prove they were right about climate change. Amiright?

Everyone raise your finger! Hail to the thief!

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-05 12:30 PM | Reply

You must first be a Victim

Apparently, you don't understand the meaning of the word "victim".

Normal people don't think that way.

Normal people to spot their panties in anticipation of being able to politicize a weather event.

Normal people don't gleefully start politicizing mass shootings even before the bodies stop twitching.

People know who the ------- ghoulish scum are.

Don't get upset when they have the audacity to point it out like Rick just did.

#16 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 12:37 PM | Reply

Despite DeSantis' claim, Ian's cone forecast accurate, experts say

Published 4 hours ago

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and Lee County Commission Chairman Cecil Pendergrass rebuffed the questions on Sunday, saying the data available before landfall did not warrant such a response. "Seventy-two hours before the storm, we still were not in the cone," Pendergrass said during a press conference. "We were working off of data and went off that data."

DeSantis also said Lee County based its decision on the National Hurricane Center's track forecast. "They were following the weather track and they had to make decisions based on that," he said in an interview with CNN. "But you know, 72 hours, they weren't even in the cone."

We reviewed eight advisories the National Hurricane Center issued Sept. 25 " three days before Ian made landfall. Most of Lee County was not within the forecasted path three days before landfall.

But one of the county's barrier islands, Cayo Costa - where the Category 4 hurricane made landfall - appeared inside the cone on each of eight advisories from Sept. 25. (No advisory was issued exactly 72 hours before Ian made landfall at 3:05 p.m.)

The cone graphic that DeSantis and Pendergrass referenced is often misunderstood, according to the National Hurricane Center. The visual is meant to show the probable track of the center of the storm - not the extent of a hurricane's reach. Focusing on the cone itself downplays the impacts of a storm as large as Ian. Still, in Ian's case, the cone was an accurate forecast of the storm's eventual trajectory, an expert said.

Matt Rogers, an atmospheric science researcher at Colorado State University, told PolitiFact that the cone graphic from Sept. 25 predicted that the center of Ian would cross the coastline anywhere between Cedar Key and Cayo Costa in Lee County. "The cone was therefore accurate," Rogers said. "The cone forecast from Sunday night predicted it was possible for the center of the hurricane to be as far south as Cayo Costa, and that's what happened."

www.tampabay.com

But the fact that some in the media focused their coverage on the largest population center within the cone is somehow them wanting the storm to strike that area instead of less populated areas all because they despise DeSantis.

What an egotistical, arrogant, projecting fool.

#17 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 12:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Apparently, you don't understand the meaning of the word "victim".

It's you, after Dark Brandon stole the election.

You're the victim.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 12:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It appears that factual reporting about factual events is disturbing to some pantywaist rwingers.

I mean, just because their fav phallic substitute gun is also the school massacre weapon of choice doesn't mean the news should report it was used!

And what are news outlets doing reporting where a hurricane will hit?

That's all just liberal ----- reporting trying to disgrace Lord Trump!

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2022-10-05 12:45 PM | Reply

The fact of the matter is the "national regime media" has been far too kind in not repeatedly broadcasting how ridiculous DeSantis looked yesterday when he halted relief operations in order to stage a photo-op media event while wearing totally clean knee high white boots!

pbs.twimg.com

And of course, many outside of media have had a field day with their responses: pbs.twimg.com

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#20 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I love all of this obfuscating -------- about where the storm did or didn't go relative to the forecast cone. It's modeling. It's not precise.

It's not the point.

The point is that this the blue check scum and propagandists in the Regime Media very much wanted the optics of a Cat 4 storm destroying a major city so they could:

1. Keep this stupid-ass fixation with global warming in the narrative; and

2. Generate "news" about the response effort and fabricate another narrative about the "inadequacy" of it.

They missed their chance.

So now we're stuck still talking about gas prices and inflation and the overall incompetence and malaise of this illegitimate President and his deeply un-American political party.

#21 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 01:03 PM | Reply

"Normal people to spot their panties in anticipation of being able to politicize a weather event."

No. Only you and your fellow magaheads think that way.

The point is that this the blue check scum and propagandists in the Regime Media very much wanted the optics of a Cat 4 storm destroying a major city so they could:

Once Again. You are only giving away your deepest darkest hateful desires.

You speak only for yourself. News media always drop everything when a hurricane or tornado or earthquake occurs. Why?

Because it's news and people are drawn to it just like when you pass a car wreck.

Some of us (like you) apparently crane to see the blood and guts.

Some just want to see if it's anyone they know.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-05 01:13 PM | Reply

They missed their chance.

Well there's another storm by the Windward Island now on the exact same track so maybe NOAA can adjust their aim a bit better this time.

#23 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-05 01:14 PM | Reply

The point is that this the blue check scum and propagandists in the Regime Media very much wanted the optics of a Cat 4 storm destroying a major city so they could:

1. Keep this stupid-ass fixation with global warming in the narrative; and

2. Generate "news" about the response effort and fabricate another narrative about the "inadequacy" of it.

They missed their chance.

Nah. Turn on a tv right now and look at all the reporting about the storm's aftermath. It didn't matter where the storm hit, the western Florida coastline houses some of the most rapidly growing areas in America - and that doesn't include Tampa Bay.

Science explains that the storm was bigger, more powerful and slower moving due to the dynamics of warming - no one had to invent any scenarios.

And no area in America is ready to absorb the impact of a Cat 4/5 direct hit without sustaining catastrophic damage which will leave death, destruction, and human tragedy in its wake.

These things are simply reality and you're the delusional one to imagine that every aspect you noted isn't going on this very moment but for the fact thousands of people doing their jobs to report breaking news do not cheer for tragedy. Unlike you, I've watched reporters speak to people who hadn't been contacted by any relief groups - and then after the reports relief groups were sent directly to them.

#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 01:14 PM | Reply

"So now we're stuck still talking about ... "

You. You are stuck.

I feel bad for you stuck inside your own hateful head. It must be awful in there. Definitely not a safe place for small children to run around in.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-05 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Remember when Trump tried to block aid to California fire victims out of "rage" at them California liberals?

Yeah. Now them were some good times eh Mao Mao? That was when you could let the rage consume you.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-05 01:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Haven't seen a single media outlet rooting for Hurricane Ian to hit the Tampa area as DeSantis claims, but I've seen every Florida republican oppose a bill to fund disaster relief.

Covie

True dat.

#27 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Regime Media"

What utter --------. Of course, that's all you people have left.

#28 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-10-05 01:45 PM | Reply

"Regime Media"

He must mean these guys:

www.foxweather.com

#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-05 01:48 PM | Reply

Of course, that's all you people have left.

Well, that..... and and 11 point lead over Crist about a month before the election.

#30 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 01:52 PM | Reply

Well there's another storm by the Windward Island now on the exact same track so maybe NOAA can adjust their aim a bit better this time

Nope.

There won't being anything else significant in the Gulf this year.

Maybe this cold front next week will spawn a line of destructive tornadoes in the Midwest, though.

There's always hope....

#31 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 01:55 PM | Reply

There won't being anything else significant in the Gulf this year.

And you determine this how?

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-05 02:01 PM | Reply

There's always hope....

#31 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT

And you need to ask yourself. Why is it you hope for such terrible things to happen to others?

Probably because you have no life without being able to hate on the Other.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-05 02:15 PM | Reply

He's not wrong.

#1 | POSTED BY MAO_CONTENT

Yeah, he is.

But you tools are so deep into woe is me, I'm a victim type thinking you can't see it.

Tampa was going to be directly hit until it wobbled at the last second. Accurately reporting that isn't hoping Tampa will be hit.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2022-10-05 02:22 PM | Reply

was asked if there would be any "accountability in the media" for reporting that the storm had been forecast to strike the Tampa Bay area

This is the type of anti-science ------------ that's become the norm from "c-c-conservatives."

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2022-10-05 02:22 PM | Reply

"There won't being anything else significant in the Gulf this year."

You checked the mud weight?

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 02:32 PM | Reply

Yeah, he is.

No, Pussoir. He's not.

"Quite frankly, you have national regime media that ... wanted to see Tampa, because they thought that would be worse for Florida. That's how these people think,"

That's ------------- correct and I'm glad he said it.

That's why he's going to get re-elected.

#37 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 02:34 PM | Reply

And you determine this how?

The jet stream and succession of cold fronts and the dry air they've brought.

#38 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 02:38 PM | Reply

PNAC wanted 9/11 to happen because it would give Americans a reason to support their plans to invade Iraq.

Pinche is just mad libbing that bit of history at us.

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 02:38 PM | Reply

I don't see him "whining" at all.
#8 | POSTED BY MAONKEY_POX

Partisan shill doesn't think whining baby is whining.

This is my shocked face.

I could never have guessed MaoPox would spit out DeSantis's dick long enough to make a statement.

But here we are.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-10-05 02:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Haven't seen a single media outlet rooting for Hurricane Ian to hit the Tampa area as DeSantis claims, but I've seen every Florida republican oppose a bill to fund disaster relief.

Doesn't matter what the truth is.

Uninformed voters, like Mao, have been told what to think.

They'll repeat the bullshht they've been fed until they die.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-10-05 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

FASCISM 101 - Demonize immigrants. Demonize the press. Rig elections so you always win. Declare any election you don't win to be fraudulent.

Sound familiar?

We know desantis is fine with #1 and #2. He's going to proceed with #3 and #4 next.

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-05 02:50 PM | Reply

He already tried to gerrymander the state in order to guarantee a victory.

Fact: Without gerrymandering, Republicans would never win any elections, ever again.

Fact: Without the EC, Republicans would never win the Presidency, ever again.

They gotta cheat to win and they're really good at cheating.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-10-05 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-Fact: Without gerrymandering, Republicans would never win any elections, ever again.

That's a little hyperbole, right?

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-05 03:12 PM | Reply

Spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-10-05 03:15 PM | Reply

"I think the one thing [the hurricane] has ended is the discussion about whether or not there is climate change and we should do something about it."

- President Vegetable, just now

You can't make this ---- up

#46 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 03:22 PM | Reply

You can't make this ---- up

He didn't hit Tampa with a Sharpie, did he? That would be embarrassing.

#47 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-10-05 03:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

-[the hurricane] has ended is the discussion about whether or not there is climate change and we should do something about it

This is just more proof there are millions of people who claim they believe in man-made global warming and that it's very very serious but they are absolutely lying.

I give you the millions of homeowners who.........

1. choose to live in florida
2. choose to NOT purchase flood insurance, would be extremely critical in the event of a hurricane
3. claims to believe global warming is going to be the ruination of our planet

right....they really believe in global warming....LOL

#48 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-05 03:31 PM | Reply

The fun part is DeSatanist having to be seen with Dark Biden touring the damage, some of which was caused by Herr Ron's skittish evacuation orders.

It may have take some time because Tampa votes democrat.

#49 | Posted by Corky at 2022-10-05 03:40 PM | Reply

-touring the damage, some of which was caused by Herr Ron's skittish evacuation orders

Umm, you want to explain that comment?

Damage caused by skittish evacuation orders?

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-05 03:42 PM | Reply

This is just more proof there are millions of people who claim they believe in man-made global warming and that it's very very serious but they are absolutely lying.

I wouldn't call them liars Ebs, I'd say that they understand the science, but until they're forced to actively do something that costs them money, they'll just ignore their personal responsibility in making things worse.

I really think I've defined most of us wherever we happen to live. I drive a gas-powered car. I use utilities generated by or consisting of the use of fossil fuels. I don't live on a coast or in a flood plane that I'm aware of. I intellectually understand that our planet's climate is becoming more and more volatile and inhospitable to the lifestyles many choose to lead. Because I live under the auspices of an HOA, I can't unilaterally incorporate wind and solar to my condo even if I wanted to.

That is why most realize that government has to take the lead in the transition away from fossil fuels towards greener, renewable energy. To me, it's not a left/right issue, it's a matter of survival. Either we change, or the planet will become inhospitable to human life forms as we've lived. The clock continues to tick, but I'll probably be dead before catastrophe hits or maybe I won't. But I know my kids - and their kids if/when they have them - are going to face many untenable problems, and I don't envy them in the least.

#51 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 03:48 PM | Reply

Damage caused by skittish evacuation orders?

More the human lives lost because evacuation orders weren't given with enough advanced time. Go up and read #17. I don't blame DeSantis as much as the county officials who misinterpreted what the tracking cone actually shows.

The cone itself represents the CENTER of the storm, not simply a tracking of its expected boundaries. The storm was 500 miles wide - twice the width of the entire state. Just because the cone boundaries didn't place Ft. Myers proper within them, they always had Cayo Costa - the actual eye landfall - within the cone from 9/25 on.

One doesn't have to be a genius to extrapolate how far a huge hurricane's effects will be if the eye hits anywhere along the width of the cone track. The people of SE Florida should have been given evacuation orders long before 24 hours of landfall. Many who tried to leave after the order couldn't because the storm's effects were already being felt in the late evacuation areas.

#52 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 03:57 PM | Reply

Lee County officials are DeSantis GQP'ers...

"Lee County GOP to consider branding WHO as terrorists and barring IRS and FBI agents"

floridapolitics.com

They wouldn't go pee unless Herr Ron told them to.

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2022-10-05 04:02 PM | Reply

-but until they're forced to actively do something that costs them money, they'll just ignore their personal responsibility in making things worse.

they're waiting on what everyone else is really waiting on.

A silver bullet technological solution.

Which, BTW, IS the only thing that will reverse this if at all, IMO.

But we spend a lot of time making a distinction between folks who claim they believe in global warming and those who say it's a hoax....when it's clear their actions are the same...except who they vote for, of course.

Claiming you believe in global warming has been proven to be a societal polite stance to take. You don't really have to do anything more than that and you're in the cool kids club.

#54 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-05 04:07 PM | Reply

"This is just more proof there are millions of people who claim they believe in man-made global warming and that it's very very serious but they are absolutely lying."

The ----?
Do cars emit CO2? Yes
Dies CO2 cause global warming? Yes

I drive a car, does that make my answers lies?

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 04:10 PM | Reply

You don't really have to do anything more than that and you're in the cool kids club.
#54 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Hell you can even mine Bitcoin and claim to believe in Climate Change and its solutions.

#56 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-10-05 04:30 PM | Reply

Hell you can even run an electric space heater and claim to believe in Climate Change and its solutions.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 04:34 PM | Reply

Eberly.

A lot of your posts seems to attempt to paint all of society with one brush.

But there's a big difference between people trying their best to reduce their carbon footprint and people rolling coal to pwn the librulz.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-10-05 04:43 PM | Reply

DeSantis Says 'National Regime Media' Wanted Ian to Hit TB

DeSantis overestimated how much people hate Tom Brady.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 04:46 PM | Reply

I'd be feeling it more if DeSantis said Mar-A-Lago.

Even DeSantis wanted it to hit Mar-A-Lago.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-05 04:51 PM | Reply

Dark Brandon is real. Today after appearing with DeSantis, then speaking with the mayor of Ft. Myers: Biden - "No one ----- with a Biden."

And Dark Brandon doesn't wear white boots either.

#61 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 04:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is just more proof there are millions of people who claim they believe in man-made global warming and that it's very very serious but they are absolutely lying.

I give you the millions of homeowners who.........

1. choose to live in florida
2. choose to NOT purchase flood insurance, would be extremely critical in the event of a hurricane
3. claims to believe global warming is going to be the ruination of our planet

right....they really believe in global warming....LOL

#48 | Posted by eberly

This is just more proof when you want to make an argument you just invent fantasies and argue against those.

You probably think the super rich people buying beachfront homes proves they dont believe in climate change. When in fact it proves that they simply have enough money where it wont hurt them because they can rebuild without insurance and already own other homes anyway.

#62 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-05 04:58 PM | Reply

And Dark Brandon doesn't wear white boots either.

Those are Delcambre Reeboks. Not at all uncommon on the Gulf Coast.

You stupid, sneering ----- just can't help yourselves, can you?

#63 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-05 05:07 PM | Reply

You stupid, sneering ----- just can't help yourselves, can you?

#63 | Posted by Mao_Content

Rewind to when obama wore a tan suit. You fascists got more upset about that than you got about an attempt to overthrow democracy.

#64 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-05 05:27 PM | Reply

#63

Did Maowie Wowie get some sand in her --------, lol?

What a pansy. Always dishing it out and can't take a knuckle punch in the bicep without squealing like Ned Beatty in Deliverance.

We all know DeSantis looked ridiculous, your response only confirmed what a beta ---- he truly is - and you know it.

#65 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 05:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Delcambre Rebooks, lol, never heard that one but virtually ALL fishermen, shrimpers, etc wear those short white rubber boots. They are cheap and don't roast your feet in the sun. Somebody probably gave a pair to Desantis so he wouldn't soak his shoes, because its WET after a hurricane, ya know?

#66 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-10-05 05:51 PM | Reply

-you just invent fantasies and argue against those.

did speakstupid just make that accusation?

irony indeed.

and I'm not talking about the super rich. I'm talking about the thousands and thousands of florida homeowners who are suffering losses.

and the millions in Arizona and all over the gulf coast and Eastern Seaboard and California residents experiencing wildfires.

All experiencing significant impactful harm from the effects of global warming.

#67 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-05 05:57 PM | Reply

All experiencing significant impactful harm from the effects of global warming.

#67 | Posted by eberly

And you're going to keep voting for the party that calls climate change a hoax. So YOU don't really believe in it either. Or you just don't care about the financial costs, suffering, and deaths that it will cause.

#68 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-05 06:03 PM | Reply

-A lot of your posts seems to attempt to paint all of society with one brush.

no they don't. It's not all society. I'm specifically referring to folks who act like global warming is someone else's problem yet they claim they believe it's real and significant.

And they live near the Coast in FLORIDA with no flood insurance.

right....they really really get the global warming thing.

If I pointed to a volcano and told you that I believe it's going to erupt then I build a house right beside it, you'd accuse me of being boneheaded retarded or that I was lying when I claimed I thought the volcano was going to erupt.

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-05 06:04 PM | Reply

In a small way, I buy Tony's argument (others have made this argument as well) that people just don't think or that they believe that it's real but it's not going to hurt them for a long time.

That probably explains most of the ----- who in the past 10 years have paid $250-$500 a square foot for property along coasts, in the desert, etc with obvious perils headed their way. Extreme storms, flooding, drought, etc and yet they made that investment anyway.

And many of them will lose on that investment. Not because they don't care about losing money, but because they didn't see the risk.

How did they not see the risk? Because they don't really think global warming is going to affect them...at least not for a long long time. Long after they get out of those investments.

I think a lot of people who live in Florida (well, perhaps not anymore) are figuring out this wasn't going to happen far in the future. It just happened.

And they didn't see it coming while claiming they believe........it was coming

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-05 06:14 PM | Reply

If I pointed to a volcano and told you that I believe it's going to erupt then I build a house right beside it, you'd accuse me of being boneheaded retarded or that I was lying when I claimed I thought the volcano was going to erupt.

#69 | Posted by eberly

Or you could just be a rich person with many houses and dont care if you lose one of them, because until it's destroyed the volcano house is gorgeous.

If you're average person who can only afford one house and you build it next to a volcano that you think is about to erupt, then you're a moron.

If everyone who believed in climate change only bought property in areas that wont be harmed by climate change, they'd all move to canada.

#71 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-05 06:17 PM | Reply

And calling them liars is a strong accusation.

But they aren't being honest with themselves. That's obvious.

#72 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-05 06:17 PM | Reply

How did they not see the risk? Because they don't really think global warming is going to affect them...
#70 | Posted by eberly

Because they consume right wing media.

#73 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-05 06:17 PM | Reply

This is why Biden stands the best chance of any Democrat to defeat either Trump or DeSantis in 2024.

It's not going to make progressives thrilled, but this one photo encapsulates a political truth more than thousands of words saying the opposite.

#74 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 08:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Best DeSantis/Biden meme photo yet: "Puss 'n Boots" LMFBAO!!!!!

#75 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-05 08:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mao and DeSantis sittin in a tree
W-H-I-N-I-N-G
First comes floods
Then comes damage
Then comes both pushing a line of crap

#76 | Posted by cbob at 2022-10-05 09:44 PM | Reply

DeSantis really things people wanted Ian to hit Tampa?

Talk about a complex. But it's not really a complex now is it? It's just an attempt to paint certain people a certain way and build division.

Also - you can really believe in global warning and decide to live in FL, including on the coast. These events aren't mutually exclusive.

There are many examples of risk to reward where people make choices. We are not robots.

#77 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-10-05 10:11 PM | Reply

Because they don't really think global warming is going to affect them...

Even if you don't believe in global warming, you certainly have to believe in damaging hurricanes.

Regardless, they knew it was something that could happen (well, if you're a reasonable person).

Again, people do risk to reward.

People know cancer is caused by smoking. People still smoke. It's not that they don't believe in the causation of cancer from smoking. In fact, they can give to cancer research and otherwise try to live a healthy lifestyle. People make choices.

#78 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-10-05 10:25 PM | Reply

But they aren't being honest with themselves.
#72 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Over the past five or seven years, we have spoon-feeding you a steady diet of what the GOP has become.

Abd yet you still won't be honest with yourself about what the GOP has become.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 08:57 AM | Reply

"People know cancer is caused by smoking. People still smoke."

Drinking is a known cancer risk.

Eberly drinks.

The only possible explanation is Eberly wants cancer.

Right, Eberly?

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 09:00 AM | Reply

-People know cancer is caused by smoking. People still smoke. It's not that they don't believe in the causation of cancer from smoking

Interesting comparison. I'm not sure if it's a fair one due to the addictive nature of tobacco, which is why folks who believe in the causation of cancer still smoke.

Addiction is the difference. It explains the irrational behavior and choices.

People who buy a $800K home in Florida (assuming $800K is real money to this homeowner meaning I'm excluding the uber wealthy from this) don't accept they are taking a financial risk by first purchasing a home in an area they've been warned is very vulnerable to the effects of GW and second...not purchasing flood insurance.

Of course, you can't explain this with addiction......I think we travel back to where they don't really believe in GW in the first place.

If conduct a poll and call these folks and ask them if they believe in GW, they'll say yes. Also, if you ask them at a cocktail party or a fundraiser if they believe in it...again, they'll say yes.

They are empathetic and caring people...of course they want to believe in GW. To believe otherwise is callous and selfish. And to admit such could be grounds to be asked to leave the cocktail party. So, they aren't going there.

But they still haven't squared themselves with what they proclaim to believe and their actions and specifically their actions of putting their money where their mouths are. Why would they throw away so much money?

Answer...they don't think they are throwing away their money. They don't think they are taking any risk at all. And why would they think there is no risk?

You keep asking these questions and you continue to arrive at a place where you have to wonder if they really and truly believe in GW in the first place.

#81 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-06 09:18 AM | Reply

Eberly, why didn't most drivers wear seat belts until the law required it?

Did they want to be more likely to die in a car crash?

See, you can take addiction out of the picture and you see the same irrational behavior.

Hope this helps.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 09:26 AM | Reply

Gee, it isn't like "the media" used a sharpie to expand the cone:

Trump appears to show Sharpie-altered hurricane map

#83 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-10-06 10:32 AM | Reply

What was Desantis doing when he gave a statement on the 27th and specifically warned the residents of Tampa even though the storm path had changed.
floridapolitics.com

Seems he was trying to scare the residents of the area so he could come back later and tell them how he protected the area.

Whatever the case, the storm was God's wrath for stripping women of their god given right to family planning and mistreatment of immigrants. Basically Jesus hates you if you live in Florida which should have already been obvious just by the fact that you live in Florida.

#84 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-10-06 10:38 AM | Reply

So now we're stuck still talking about gas prices and inflation and the overall incompetence and malaise of this illegitimate President and his deeply un-American political party.

#21 | Posted by Mao_Content

Wow, you pulled out your 2009-2017 "illegitimate President .. yada yada" 45's, and went back to playing that broken record.

#85 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-10-06 11:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#84 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce

DeSantis, though, cautioned residents of the Tampa region not to be complacent now that Ian's eye, which had been forecast to cut a path through Tampa Bayis now headed to the south. There will still be storm surge, powerful winds and dangerous conditions. And the forecast could still change before Ian arrives.

"There's still uncertainty with where that exact landfall will be," DeSantis said.

floridapolitics.com

#86 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-10-06 11:10 AM | Reply

Of course, you can't explain this with addiction......I think we travel back to where they don't really believe in GW in the first place.

Well, first I could make the case of living on the beach of FL as "addictive". People love warm weather, the sunshine, the water.....the ambiance. Ask most people what they want and the literally say "an island". It's a goal in life for many.

And why do you keep referring to GW - when we know regardless hurricanes are REAL, DEADLY, and DESTRUCTIVE.

People who bought in those areas without insurance are rolling the dice figuring if a hurricane does come it does minimal damage and they get thru it - WHICH DOES HAPPEN. And other times - not so much.

Again, it's risk to reward. What are you willing to accept.

#87 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-10-06 11:15 AM | Reply

If everyone was rational as Eberly, we'd have zero people on the coast of FL nor have people living near fault lines in CALIF.

People choose to live in CALIF because it's beautiful in many ways, realizing, yes - an earthquake could not only destroy our property but also end life. But make no mistake they do believe in it.

Other people weigh the risk and say - NO WAY.

Risk to reward. We do it every day in life and people have different evaluations.

#88 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-10-06 11:20 AM | Reply

Answer...they don't think they are throwing away their money.

Disagree. They feel they are taking a risk, for which in return they get to live where they want. Personal choice.

#89 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-10-06 11:23 AM | Reply

Answer...they don't think they are throwing away their money. They don't think they are taking any risk at all. And why would they think there is no risk?

#81 | Posted by eberly

I already told you - because they consume lies from right wing media. The same reason many people do very stupid things. The same reason you are so ignorant about so many things.

#90 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-06 12:07 PM | Reply

I'd define global warming as rising sea levels due to polar caps melting, increased power and destruction in hurricanes, and a general overall view that warming of the earth endangers costal living around the world having a hardship economic impact to the entire Earth.

That's high level and you might not agree. People who buy homes on the beach may totally disagree.

But one thing that can't be disputed is if you buy a house there, a hurricane (which is real thing) could 1) damage your house 2) destroy your house 3) potentially kill you 4)do enough damage to make the area unlivable.

If you do dispute that, you aren't looking at empirical data called the history of weather LOL You'd also be declared to not playing with a full deck (which could be possible for a select few, but not all).

Bottom line -people who live there know there's a risk regardless of your believe in GW. And there's also a further risk if you don't buy insurance.

So why do people do it? It's the same reason people smoke, drink, drive without insurance, don't wear a safety belt, and decide to have unprotected sex. Those are just some examples of risk to reward.

To simply say they live and thus don't believe in GW is really lacking content and nuance.

#91 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-10-06 01:20 PM | Reply

That is such nonsense. If anything the left tends to pray, meditate, smudge etc etc hurricanes of course... especially when they head for coastal beach towns... just ask Marianne Williamson.

time.com

The republicl0wns really need to leave all that mind-reading stuff to the psychics.

Besides the right has been using god's sloppy aim at decimating Florida with hurricanes over the presence of a gay population for decades. Just ask the assorted televangelists too numerous to mention that use it as a sign of Jaysus setting things right every chance they get.

#92 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-10-06 02:02 PM | Reply

If I pointed to a volcano and told you that I believe it's going to erupt then I build a house right beside it, you'd accuse me of being boneheaded retarded or that I was lying when I claimed I thought the volcano was going to erupt.

Then why do people continue to build in California with earthquakes?

People certainly know earthquakes are real, yes?

#93 | Posted by brass30 at 2022-10-06 02:49 PM | Reply

-Then why do people continue to build in California with earthquakes?

Earthquakes aren't an increasing risk, are they? They never scared people, really.

nothing is changing with them.

#94 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-06 03:40 PM | Reply

Earthquakes in California are unpredictable and rare. Hurricanes happen every single year.

#95 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-10-06 03:48 PM | Reply

"Earthquakes aren't an increasing risk, are they?"

(Nobody tell Eberly about Dark Brandon's Earthquake Machine.)

#96 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 03:54 PM | Reply

More like Desantis WANTS the national media to WANT TB hit by Ian. It plays into his false narrative that somehow the "liberal" press is out to punish Florida for supporting him. This is juvenile politics 101. Unfortunately, too many of you buy into it.

#97 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-10-06 04:04 PM | Reply

Are we experiencing an increase in volcanoes and are climate experts claiming it's a result of GW?

Tropical storms/hurricanes
Drought
warmer temps
more extreme storm activity
etc.

those I see as being evidence of GW and the impact of it....but I'm not aware of volcanoes.

-Then why do people continue to build in California with earthquakes?

see above....

-People choose to live in CALIF because it's beautiful in many ways,

I'm not referring to all of California when I talk about where GW is affecting more frequently and more severely.

My point is that NOBODY buying a $800K home in Florida with the belief there is any chance their home might be worth $400K in a few years due to the exodus of that State due to the significant impact of GW on that state.

#98 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-06 04:08 PM | Reply

-This is juvenile politics 101. Unfortunately, too many of you buy into it.

Exactly

#99 | Posted by eberly at 2022-10-06 04:09 PM | Reply

Why would the liberal media want the hurricane to hit one of the most liberal areas in Florida?

Republicans just can't help but to project their own pathologies onto everything they perceive as threatening their power. A major hurricane laying waste to a Democratically-controlled city hurts DeSantis exactly how?

#100 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-06 04:10 PM | Reply

Republicans wanted 9/11 so they could have their Iraq War.

Republicans naturally assume Democrats are just as opportunistic, just for the other side.

#101 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 04:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"My point is that NOBODY buying a $800K home in Florida with the belief there is any chance their home might be worth $400K in a few years"

They just think it won't happen to them.

Like when you guys outlawed abortion, but then your daughter needs one, so you fly her to LA.

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 04:26 PM | Reply

"-This is juvenile politics 101. Unfortunately, too many of you buy into it"

Looks mao mao is ate up by it.

#103 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-10-06 04:27 PM | Reply

Cars crash, but people still drive cars.

Eberly, why?

#104 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 04:28 PM | Reply

Wow, I missed this one when it was posted. And I will admit that I have not read any of the comments so far [I'm going back to read them now...]. But i did read the cited article...

From the cited article...

... "They don't care about the people of this state. They don't care about the people of this community. They want to use storms and destruction from storms as a way to advance their agenda. And they don't care what destruction's in their wake. They don't care about the lives here. If they can use it to pursue their political agenda, they will do it," DeSantis asserted, without explaining what agenda could be served by a storm striking a major population center. ...

I do not see any evidence of what Gov DeSantis is saying.

Aside from him trying to exploit the suffering of his constituents for his own political gain by the usual right-wing railing against the media.

#105 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:02 PM | Reply

@#8 ... I don't see him "whining" at all.

He's just stating what everyone knows. ...

Please give substantiation to your assertion Gov DeSantis is stating what "everyone" knows.

thx.

#106 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:05 PM | Reply

@#9 ... Maybe they'll get another school shooting as a consolation prize for the disappointment of the storm not hitting Tampa. ...

Wow.

Each time I think your alias hits a new low, it seems to endeavor to dig even deeper.

#107 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:07 PM | Reply

@#16 ... Normal people to spot their panties in anticipation of being able to politicize a weather event.

Normal people don't gleefully start politicizing mass shootings even before the bodies stop twitching.

People know who the ------- ghoulish scum are. ...

Your alias has yet to convince me that it has even the slightest clue of what "normal" people are.

Indeed, the more your alias posts, the more extreme it seems to be.

Jus' sayin'

#108 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:09 PM | Reply

@#21 ... The point is that this the blue check scum and propagandists in the Regime Media very much wanted the optics of a Cat 4 storm destroying a major city ...

Got any substantiation for that assertion?

#109 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:11 PM | Reply

Good grief, now I'm leaning toward happy that I didn't see this thread earlier.

It had the participation of an alias that just posts random garbage with no substantiation for its assertions.

An alias that seems to enjoy, nay have as its goal, dragging threads down into ignorance.

That alias seemed to be actively trying to destroy any manner of credibly it might have enjoyed with the bizarre comments it posted on this thread.

imo, of course. :)


#110 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:15 PM | Reply

I guess DeSantis should be arrested for making this comment.

#111 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-06 10:15 PM | Reply

@#111 ... I guess DeSantis should be arrested for making this comment.

Why?

What is the reason why you would like him to be arrested for making the comment?

#112 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:17 PM | Reply

Please give substantiation to your assertion Gov DeSantis is stating what "everyone" knows.

How about I drag my balls across your face and tell you all the things you don't like to hear, instead?

The Democrat party and their propagandists in the Regime Media love destructive weather events because they are an opportunity to politicize negative events and promulgate an absurd ideological narrative about "global warming".

The Democrat party and their propagandists in the Regime Media love destructive weather events because, depending on the political leadership in the State, they are an opportunity to politicize and fabricate new narratives about the relief effort (or lack thereof).

The Democrat party and their propagandists in the Regime Media love mass shootings because they are an opportunity to politicize negative events and promulgate an absurd ideological narrative about "gun control".

Your inability to see or understand this is not really my problem.

Shylock Rahm said it best...."you never let a crisis go to waste"....when you're a ghoulish, un-American Commie sack of ----.

I don't know how to clarify it any further.

#113 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-06 10:22 PM | Reply

Each time I think your alias hits a new low, it seems to endeavor to dig even deeper.

Fair enough---but your alias is preoccupied with cringey attempts at Socratic dialogue backed up by little more than an IQ roughly equivalent to an indoor thermostat setting.

Go find something else to occupy yourself with.

#114 | Posted by Mao_Content at 2022-10-06 10:29 PM | Reply

I guess DeSantis should be arrested for making this comment.
#111 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Now you're playing victim FOR DeSantis?

Fnckin' weird, yet telling.

Swallow it, ----.

#115 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-10-06 10:30 PM | Reply

The only thing I'm doing is laughing at idiot lefties working themselves into a lather over this comment.

#116 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-06 10:35 PM | Reply

@#113 ... How about I drag my balls across your face and tell you all the things you don't like to hear, instead?

You got balls? I've not seen any evidence of that so far.

But to your point...

... The Democrat party and their propagandists in the Regime Media love destructive weather events because they are an opportunity to politicize negative events and promulgate an absurd ideological narrative about "global warming". ...

So, your alias seems to admit that it is unable to distinguish between propaganda and the reporting of significant weather events that may affect millions of people.

Thanks for admitting that.

.... depending on the political leadership in the State, ...

Are you saying that hurricanes tend to hit Florida because the Governor is a Republican?

If that is what your alias really means to say, you may want to rethink it in the light of the whole God ravaging upon sinners thing. (remember the whole ~AIDS is God's punishment to homosexuals thing?)

... Your inability to see or understand this is not really my problem. ...

On that we agree. My apparent inability to understand your unhinged rants is not your problem.

Your problem is the unhinged rants.

But do keep on.

They are entertaining, in a most humorous manner.

#117 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:38 PM | Reply

@#114 ... Fair enough---but your alias is preoccupied with cringey attempts at Socratic dialogue backed up by little more than an IQ roughly equivalent to an indoor thermostat setting....

Your alias is going to have to work a whole lot harder.

But keep trying, the ~attempted insults instead of rationale gainsaying~ is quite entertaining.

On the other hand, if that level of discussion is you thing, go with all you got.


#118 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:41 PM | Reply

@#116 ... The only thing I'm doing ...

The only thing you are doing is showing ya got nothing.

But that seems to be the norm for your current alias.

Nothing.

#119 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 10:44 PM | Reply

I've got a heck of a lot more than countless overly long c/p blockquote posts.

#120 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-06 10:46 PM | Reply

"How about I drag my balls across your face and tell you all the things you don't like to hear, instead?"

For free?

Don't sell yourself short!

#121 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-10-06 10:56 PM | Reply

The only thing I'm doing is laughing at idiot lefties working themselves into a lather over this comment.
#116 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

And by doing so acting as a victim FOR DeSantis.

As MIRANDA would post, "See how that works?"

Swallow it.

#122 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-10-06 11:06 PM | Reply

Jesus Harold Christ

Why can't I be as entertained as LAMPLIGHTER?

God damn it God damn it

#123 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-10-06 11:09 PM | Reply

I've got a heck of a lot more than countless overly long c/p blockquote posts.
#120 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

LOL

You think you do, but in reality, you don't.

Swallow it, ----.

#124 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2022-10-06 11:10 PM | Reply

@#120 ... I've got a heck of a lot more ...

Yet another unsubstantiated assertion of your current alias.

But do keep trying.

#125 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 11:14 PM | Reply

@#123 ... Why can't I be as entertained as LAMPLIGHTER? ...

It's a slow night here, I'm easily amused this evening.


:)

#126 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-10-06 11:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

More like Desantis WANTS the national media to WANT TB hit by Ian. - Moder8

If you want to know what a Republican wants but won't say, it'll be what he's asserting his "enemies" want.
If you want to know what's in DeSantis' heart, just listen to what he's saying is in his "enemies" hearts:

"They don't care about the people of this state. They don't care about the people of this community. They want to use storms and destruction from storms as a way to advance their agenda. And they don't care what destruction's in their wake. They don't care about the lives here. If they can use it to pursue their political agenda, they will do it," DeSantis asserted, without explaining what agenda could be served by a storm striking a major population center." - Lamplighter quoting the article."

DeSantis is disappointed that he couldn't make more of the hurricane, that he couldn't pretend to run in and "rescue" some for political capital. DeSantis doesn't care about anyone in this state - he just cares about getting them to worship him and to do as he says. And way too many in this state are happy to lick his white shiny boots.

#127 | Posted by YAV at 2022-10-07 08:12 AM | Reply

GOP - Grand Old Projectionists.

#128 | Posted by zarnon at 2022-10-07 09:39 AM | Reply

#127. Right, because Crist is such an awesome alternative.

#129 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-07 10:24 AM | Reply

Crist is way, way, way better than DeSantis. Hands down. He's also human, doesn't belittle school kids (when they aren't cooperating as political props) and Crist won't make women criminals for getting health care.

You're right. Crist is an SOLID alternative. The only real choice, in fact. Head and shoulders above DeSantis.

#130 | Posted by YAV at 2022-10-07 10:28 AM | Reply

-#130. That is your opinion. My bet is a majority of voters in the state of Florida disagree with you.

#131 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-07 11:44 AM | Reply

What I stated are facts about DeSantis that aren't up for debate.
My conclusion is he is the only real choice.
That, of course, depends on if you are intelligent, aware, and informed.
I said nothing about him winning the governor's race.
I live here and the level of uninformed, and/or stupid, and/or wacky religious, and/or "my team no matter what!" is astounding.
I suspect the piece of fascist wanna-be ---- that is DeSantis has a better chance of winning than sanity.

#132 | Posted by YAV at 2022-10-07 12:41 PM | Reply

and #129 is your opinion, which I responded to. Do you realize how stupid it is to say "That's your opinion!" in response?

#133 | Posted by YAV at 2022-10-07 12:42 PM | Reply

It's always funny to me the hubris of those who think that if others don't vote the way they do it must be the result of stupidity.

#134 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-07 12:49 PM | Reply

I gave other options besides stupidity. You, of course, went with that one.
Rock.
Dog.
Yelp.

#135 | Posted by YAV at 2022-10-07 01:15 PM | Reply

The photos coming out of Biden's Florida visit will haunt any 2024 campaign against Brandon should DeSantis win the GOP nomination.

DeSantis needs to fire his press director.

#136 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-07 01:17 PM | Reply

#135. I noticed Informed principled disagreement was not an option.

#137 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-07 01:29 PM | Reply

#136 are you referring to DeSantis providing remarks while standing directly behind the presidential seal?

#138 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-07 01:31 PM | Reply

#136 are you referring to DeSantis providing remarks while standing directly behind the presidential seal?

When Brandon was smirking at him while wearing his Ray Bans and rolling up his sleeves before taking the podium and telling DeSantis he was glad to find that they agreed on the existence of climate change and its effect on extreme weather events?

#139 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-07 01:47 PM | Reply

#135. I noticed Informed principled disagreement was not an option.

Do you have any? No one here I've talked to is able to articulate any. The best I get here is "he's defending out children and our rights as parents!" nonsense.

#140 | Posted by YAV at 2022-10-07 01:48 PM | Reply

What makes it nonsense?

That you disliked the decision to go back to in person learning before most other states or crafting a law preventing sexual and gender fluid topics to be introduced into k-3?

This may come as a surprise to you but those policies were awfully popular with parents because most parents love their kids, are protective of them and want what they feel is best for them.

That is apparently all nonsense to you.

#141 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-07 01:57 PM | Reply

#139 you think Biden injecting his politics into this is a good look for Biden?

You and I see that differently.

#142 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-10-07 01:58 PM | Reply

When did Biden inject "his politics" into it? You see what you want to, I see reality. Biden spoke at length about the fact that the hurricane impacted Americans, not Dems and Repubs. The facts aren't arguable - the Gulf water is 3 degrees warmer than ever and this heat supercharged Ian's rapid development and size, along with adding to the amount of rain it dropped. That is not political, it's scientific fact.

Biden promised that the storm-affected Floridians would not be abandoned by the federal government no matter how long it takes to rebuild. Where in the above do you see him "injecting politics"?

As usual, you conflate things that were never a part of my original observation. The memes that I posted were created by others, but the actual photos themselves are real - and they are less than flattering as it regards how they portray Biden compared to DeSantis. That isn't Biden's fault nor plan. He didn't take or commission the photos. But if necessary in the future, I'm sure he'll use them to his advantage.

For months, DeSantis has railed against "Brandon" and held himself up as someone better than the President. But when his state needed it, Biden didn't bigfoot DeSantis nor extort him out of spite. He treated him as any President should a state's governor trying to rebuild from a catastrophic storm. And Biden also related to the very people the GOP tailor their politics towards, the white couple where the man's shirt says "Cracker." But these people aren't yelling "Let's go Brandon," they're arm-in-arm with Joe exchanging smiles and warmth. And the world sees this picture all over the globe, as DeSantis appears to be sulking alone as he walks by. You can't create political gold like that, and the best part of all is that it was natural - and anyone looking at the photo can tell that it was an authentic representation of how that couple feels about the man Joe Biden represents to them.

#143 | Posted by tonyroma at 2022-10-07 02:12 PM | Reply

-#130. That is your opinion. My bet is a majority of voters in the state of Florida disagree with you.

#131 | Posted by BellRinger

If desantis is what the majority of voters want, why does he work so hard to keep some of them from voting?

#144 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-10-07 02:37 PM | Reply

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