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Monday, November 14, 2022

A University of Virginia student is suspected of fatally shooting three people and wounding two others Sunday, prompting a manhunt and lockdown at the campus in Charlottesville. Police are searching today for ex-football player Christopher Darnell Jones, Jr., who is believed to be armed.

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Again and again this is what we have to see. What is puzzling is why so many people are losing self control. Is it the microwaves in the aether? Is it too many people? Why don't they hesitate and ask themselves "Is shooting worth it?"

#1 | Posted by wolfdog at 2022-11-14 08:47 AM | Reply

GuNS keEP uS SaFe

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-11-14 08:55 AM | Reply

I swore thoughts and prayers had fixed this.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2022-11-14 09:12 AM | Reply

Omg, he's black. This has to stop.

----right wingers----

#4 | Posted by kudzu at 2022-11-14 09:28 AM | Reply

No way to prevent this. My thoughts and prayers are with the people of (insert city, school, church, concert venue, event here) for this horrific act of evil and to the families of those impacted by this tragedy. See you next time.

#5 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2022-11-14 09:46 AM | Reply

"What is puzzling is why so many people are losing self control. Is it the microwaves in the aether? Is it too many people?"

One thing you guys can all agree on:
It's definitely not the guns!

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Omg, he's black. This has to stop.
----right wingers----
#4 | POSTED BY KUDZU

That's how Reagan got gun control for California.

#7 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-11-14 11:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Current UVA football players are victims.

Former UVA football player is suspect.

#8 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-11-14 11:11 AM | Reply

He's now in custody.

#9 | Posted by YAV at 2022-11-14 11:14 AM | Reply

UPDATE: The UVA shelter in place order has been lifted based upon a thorough search on and around Grounds. A large police presence will remain.

twitter.com

Seems the victims might not be "random" but targeted.

#10 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-11-14 11:16 AM | Reply

Seems the victims might not be "random" but targeted.

#10 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

With a gun.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-14 11:20 AM | Reply

if you got a mix of people, and the percentage of dangerous is always the same - say 1%:

Give that 1% boxing mitts.
Assess the damage.
Give that 1% baseball bats.
Assess the damage.
Give that 1% knives.
Assess the damage.
Give that 1% musket loaders from 1800.
Assess the damage.
Give that 1% revolvers.
Assess the damage.
Give that 1% rifles.
Assess the damage.
Give that 1% rifles with high capacity cartridges.
Assess the damage.
Give that 1% rifles with high capacity cartridges and highly lethal charges designed to rip and shred.
Assess the damage.

We've always had dangerous people. I have no reason to believe the percentage has changed. I do have every reason to believe that the vast amount of damage that can be done by one individual has changed.

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2022-11-14 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Gun violence has nothing to do with guns. It has everything to do with the character of people.

#13 | Posted by boaz at 2022-11-14 11:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 6

Seems the victims might not be "random" but targeted.
#10 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Oh. Well that makes it all ok then.

#14 | Posted by JOE at 2022-11-14 11:44 AM | Reply

Gun violence has nothing to do with guns. It has everything to do with the character of people.
#13 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Every time you post this --------- argument, i say the following and get no coherent rebuttal.

1. We cannot control the "character of people," so the next best solution is to make it harder to get guns.

2. Even if we could control the "character of people," YOUR political party would make every effort to prevent the massive level of mental health funding that would be required to do that.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2022-11-14 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Gun violence has nothing to do with guns. It has everything to do with the character of people.

POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2022-11-14 11:44 AM | REPLY

Liar liar pants on fire. It has everything to do with guns. No guns and there's a great chance they live.

#16 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-11-14 11:53 AM | Reply


Oh. Well that makes it all ok then.
#14 | POSTED BY JOE A

It is in Chicago, why is it so worse at a University?

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-11-14 12:03 PM | Reply

With a gun.
#11 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

True ... but still targeted (homicide) versus random school shooter.

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-11-14 12:04 PM | Reply

Re18

The victims don't care.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-14 12:10 PM | Reply

Gun violence has nothing to do with guns. It has everything to do with the character of people.
#13 | POSTED BY BOAZ

People can't shoot bullets out of their fingers.

You're a damn fool, Boaz. Pig ignorant and proud of it.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This is OK per Joe.....

Chicago shootings: 24 shot, 5 fatally in weekend gun violence across city, police say
www.msn.com

Guns are big portion of the problem. But don't kid yourself, you're a racist Joe, god forbid someone harm your Black Athlete students at a mostly White university..

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-11-14 12:13 PM | Reply

Thank God for the Second Amendment, amirite!

GOP responses within the hour, I guarantee it:
"thoughts and prayers"
"now is not the time to politicize this tragedy"
"nothing could change the outcome"
"it could have been worse" (Governor of Abbottistan)
"guns have nothing to do with this horrific event"
"we must redouble our efforts to increase funding and staffing for the mentally ill"

#22 | Posted by e1g1 at 2022-11-14 12:21 PM | Reply

It seems to me that most Liberal goals, such as better education, more social services, and better health care are directly related to their distress over the conditions that cause violent places like Chicago to exist.
Also gun control, the more legal guns there are, the more illegal guns there are.

#23 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2022-11-14 12:25 PM | Reply

@#13 ... It has everything to do with the character of people. ...

Then why do Republicans always seem to go quiet whenever the discussion turns to making sure people who buy guns are not of the ~wrong character?"


#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-14 12:32 PM | Reply

Every time you post this --------- argument, i say the following and get no coherent rebuttal.

Oh I give a "rebuttal", it's just not what you want to hear.

We cannot control the "character of people," so the next best solution is to make it harder to get guns.

You cannot control the people because they have freedom of choice, and that's what you want to take away. You are not supposed to "control" the character of people, that's what you dont understand. And NO, you will NOT be making weapons harder to get for law abiding citizens. They havent killed anyone. Stupid argument you have, that's just like saying get rid of cars so no one else is hit by them. Idiot.

Even if we could control the "character of people," YOUR political party would make every effort to prevent the massive level of mental health funding that would be required to do that.

Finally something we MIGHT agree on. But then again, I'm for a national healthcare system, as I bet you are, but we will disagree on funding it. I want ALL Americans to pay the same rate, no matter if poor or not, I want EVERYONE to feel how much it costs and I dont care if the rich feel it more than the poor, we are all equal Americans here.

#25 | Posted by boaz at 2022-11-14 12:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

And I dont want to control the character of the people, that's something for the people to do themselves.

#26 | Posted by boaz at 2022-11-14 12:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"But then again, I'm for a national healthcare system"

No Republicans want that.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 12:37 PM | Reply

"I want ALL Americans to pay the same rate, no matter if poor or not"

That works out go be a regressive tax.

A hundred bucks from you cuts deeper into you wallet than a hundred bucks from Obama.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 12:39 PM | Reply

"And I dont want to control the character of the people"

In other words, you're okay with crazy people getting guns.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Young americans are thanking republicans for subjecting them to nonstop terror in their schools by going out and voting against them.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 12:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Boaz thinks the headline should read:

Person's Bad Character Causes Lockdown at University of Virginia

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 12:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Finally something we MIGHT agree on. But then again, I'm for a national healthcare system, as I bet you are, but we will disagree on funding it. I want ALL Americans to pay the same rate, no matter if poor or not, I want EVERYONE to feel how much it costs and I dont care if the rich feel it more than the poor, we are all equal Americans here.

#25 | Posted by boaz

For that to happen, we'll need to make it so getting sick can bankrupt rich people too.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#25 ... You cannot control the people because they have freedom of choice, and that's what you want to take away. ...

But, in another message #13, your alias stated, "Gun violence has nothing to do with guns. It has everything to do with the character of people."

So, how do we prevent those with the wrong character from getting guns?

It is not about freedom of choice, it is about keeping guns out of the hands of those your comments seems to deem as not having the proper character to own a gun.

Or, is your comment just the usual GOP deflection when it comes to this topic?


#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-14 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jeez, SPEAKS is mopping the floor with a few people today, and those people keep asking for more...

#34 | Posted by e1g1 at 2022-11-14 01:10 PM | Reply

Gun violence has nothing to do with guns. It has everything to do with the character of people.

#13 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Drunk driving has nothing to do with the drinking. It has everything to do with the character of people.

Sexual assault has nothing to do with sex. It has everything to do with the character of people.

Bank robbery has nothing to do with banks. It has everything to do with the character of people.

Child molestation has nothing to do with children. It has everything to do with the character of people.

#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-11-14 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Every time you post this --------- argument, i say the following and get no coherent rebuttal.
Oh I give a "rebuttal", it's just not what you want to hear.
We cannot control the "character of people," so the next best solution is to make it harder to get guns.
You cannot control the people because they have freedom of choice, and that's what you want to take away. You are not supposed to "control" the character of people, that's what you dont understand. And NO, you will NOT be making weapons harder to get for law abiding citizens. They havent killed anyone. Stupid argument you have, that's just like saying get rid of cars so no one else is hit by them. Idiot.
Even if we could control the "character of people," YOUR political party would make every effort to prevent the massive level of mental health funding that would be required to do that.
Finally something we MIGHT agree on. But then again, I'm for a national healthcare system, as I bet you are, but we will disagree on funding it. I want ALL Americans to pay the same rate, no matter if poor or not, I want EVERYONE to feel how much it costs and I dont care if the rich feel it more than the poor, we are all equal Americans here.

#25 | POSTED BY BOAZ

So, people have freedom of choice, and the solution lies in mental health funding. What if people choose to not get mental health treatment?

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-11-14 01:12 PM | Reply

Gun violence has nothing to do with guns...

uhhh, it's right there in the description, you can't say "Gun violence" and then pretend the word, "Gun," has nothing to do with it, LOL.

Not even trying anymore, just trotting out your pointless argument for the thousandth time...

#37 | Posted by chuffy at 2022-11-14 01:24 PM | Reply

" Liar liar pants on fire. It has everything to do with guns. No guns and there's a great chance they live"

Timothy McVeigh racked up a massive casualty count and didn't use a gun. Heck, in Waukesha, a lefty hero mowed down double digits with his SUV.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-14 01:35 PM | Reply

Thank you Whatabout Bob. Now do Sandy Hook, McDondald's, and Uvalde.

#40 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-14 01:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Timothy McVeigh racked up a massive casualty count and didn't use a gun. Heck, in Waukesha, a lefty hero mowed down double digits with his SUV.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2022-11-14 01:35 PM | REPLY

I'm referring to the people killed in this attack. God you're useless Jeff. Intellectually dishonest to boot.

#41 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-11-14 01:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't forget Chicago.

#42 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-14 01:40 PM | Reply

Timothy McVeigh racked up a massive casualty count and didn't use a gun. Heck, in Waukesha, a lefty hero mowed down double digits with his SUV.

#39 | Posted by BellRinger

Republican logic - "My neighbor killed his cousin with a canoe paddle. Therefore gun regulations are pointless since they wouldn't have prevented this."

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If Hodgkinson been competent he'd be a lefty hero.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-14 01:42 PM | Reply

" Republican logic - "My neighbor killed his cousin with a canoe paddle. Therefore gun regulations are pointless since they wouldn't have prevented this."

#43 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-11-14 01:42 PM | FLAG: "

We already have gun regulations in this country. The 2A prevents outright bans.

#45 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-14 01:45 PM | Reply

We have gun de-regulation in this country.
Thanks, Second Amendment!

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 01:51 PM | Reply

Timothy McVeigh racked up a massive casualty count and didn't use a gun.
#39 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

A drop in the bucked compared to our annual gun murder death toll.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 01:53 PM | Reply

Gun violence has nothing to do with guns.

Re-read your sentence as many times as it takes for you to realize just how stupid it is.

#48 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-11-14 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We already have gun regulations in this country. The 2A prevents outright bans.

#45 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Barely and with lots of loopholes.

Were you pretending to make a point again?

#49 | Posted by Sycophant at 2022-11-14 01:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We already have gun regulations in this country. The 2A prevents outright bans.

#45 | Posted by BellRinger

If kids are doing live shooter drills in school and wondering what day they're going to die, we dont have enough gun regulations.

#50 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Not the gun's fault. If the gun had it's way it would be beaten into a plowshare. It's all the fault of nut-job gun manufacturers and ----------- who insist on making guns instead.

#51 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-11-14 02:15 PM | Reply

Don't forget Chicago.

#42 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

And Jacksonville

#52 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-11-14 02:22 PM | Reply

" Were you pretending to make a point again?

#49 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2022-11-14 01:59 PM | FLAG: "

I wasn't pretending. Lefties look at Australia and the UK and see gun bans and have wet dreams about it happening here. It will never happen because of 2A and that even some liberals value their guns.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-14 02:27 PM | Reply

Bears repeating:

You're a damn fool, Boaz. Pig ignorant and proud of it.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 12:12 PM | Reply | Flag:NEWSWORTHY

#54 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-11-14 02:34 PM | Reply

I wasn't pretending. Lefties look at Australia and the UK and see gun bans and have wet dreams about it happening here. It will never happen because of 2A and that even some liberals value their guns.

#53 | Posted by BellRinger

Righties look at australia and see bans that worked and it terrifies them because it destroys their "bans dont work" propaganda.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe we should go back to what was available when the second amendment was ratified. You know being originalist and all.

#56 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-11-14 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe we should go back to what was available when the second amendment was ratified. You know being originalist and all.

#57 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-11-14 02:41 PM | Reply

Nobody needs an AR-15.

#58 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-14 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" Righties look at australia and see bans that worked and it terrifies them because it destroys their "bans dont work" propaganda.

#55 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-11-14 02:40 PM | FLAG:
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"Righties" deal in reality. Your wet dream has no chance without first striking down the 2nd. It will never happen.

#59 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-14 02:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

""Righties" deal in reality."

Yeah right. "red tsunami" Bwahahahaha

#60 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-14 02:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" Maybe we should go back to what was available when the second amendment was ratified. You know being originalist and all.

#57 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2022-11-14 02:41 PM | FLAG: "

Privately owned boats had cannons.

Not the own you think it is.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-14 02:44 PM | Reply

" Righties" deal in reality."

Yeah right. "red tsunami" Bwahahahaha

#60 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD AT 2022-11-14 02:43 PM | FLAG: "

Yep. Dead wrong. Now do the wet dream of a national gun ban.

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-14 02:46 PM | Reply

NO ONE IS CALLING FOR A NATIONAL GUN BAN, YOU SIMPLETON.

#63 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-14 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Privately owned boats had cannons."

How many schools did they shoot up, dumb@ss?

#64 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-14 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Drunk driving has everything to do with the character of people.
Sexual assault has everything to do with the character of people.
Bank robbery has everything to do with the character of people.
Child molestation has everything to do with the character of people."

FIFY to be TRUE and FACTUAL. Stop being so gotdam obtuse.

#65 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2022-11-14 02:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Privately owned boats had cannons.
Not the own you think it is.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2022-11-14 02:44 PM | REPLY

Like people carry around cannons to shoot kids with. What a Dummkopf.

#66 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-11-14 02:56 PM | Reply

"It will never happen"

Indeed, that's why the shootings will never stop.

Republicans would rather watch Americans bury their own children than dare support gun control.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Young americans are thanking republicans for subjecting them to nonstop terror in their schools by going out and voting against them.

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly a

ahahahha.... puuulease...just stop with this "malarky"

they're thanking biden for promising them 10k to use for clothes, phones, dating. drinks, gambling and drugs. according to survey from ATR.

best part is dems knew he wouldn't be able to do it making suckers out of those the idiot children.

#68 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2022-11-14 02:57 PM | Reply

"they're thanking biden for promising them 10k to use for clothes, phones, dating. drinks, gambling and drugs. according to survey from ATR."

Drugs?

One study said people on insulin spend 40% of their disposable income on insulin.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 02:59 PM | Reply

"Righties" deal in reality. Your wet dream has no chance without first striking down the 2nd. It will never happen.

#59 | Posted by BellRinger

Sure that's why righties think an amendment that applied to guns that could kill 1 person per minute is all we need to regulate guns that can kill hundreds per minute. Because you deal in such reality.

#70 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 03:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

and I'm truly sorry that the shooter didn't turn out to be a red neck with a maga hat on or some NAZI

oops...sorry, I forgot....you people only recognize two sides.....your side and nazis.

I know how depressed many of you will be but look at it this way. If there were twice as many dead, you'll be happier.

maybe next time.

#71 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2022-11-14 03:02 PM | Reply

they're thanking biden for promising them 10k to use for clothes, phones, dating. drinks, gambling and drugs. according to survey from ATR.

best part is dems knew he wouldn't be able to do it making suckers out of those the idiot children.

#68 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Oh you have a survey? I guess it's case closed then. oh wait.
marchforourlives.com
2022 Midterm Poll: Gun Violence Drives Youth to Vote

#72 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

and I'm truly sorry that the shooter didn't turn out to be a red neck with a maga hat on or some NAZI

oops...sorry, I forgot....you people only recognize two sides.....your side and nazis.

#71 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Well when one side attempts a fascist coup and then purges anyone from the party who opposed the fascist coup leader, there really is only my side and nazis.

Every mass shooting that wasn't done by a right wing extremist is still done with ASSISTANCE from the right wing extremist politicians and voters that helped them acquire a weapon of mass death.

#73 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 03:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Life is a fundamental human right, and we have an embedded right to defend our own lives with proportionate force. For practical purposes, police cannot adequately provide that protection because it takes too long for them to arrive on scene. Guns do not guarantee our safety, but they offer us a choice and a chance." --- Kevin Michalowski

#74 | Posted by flagger at 2022-11-14 04:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"For practical purposes, police cannot adequately provide that protection because of the Second Amendment."

Edited for clarity.

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 04:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Guns do not guarantee our safety, but they offer us a choice and a chance."

And by choosing guns, we have chosen the highest gun violence rate in the modern world.

That's the choice of Republicans: The highest gun violence rate in the modern world.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 04:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"For practical purposes, police cannot adequately provide that protection"

So why fund them?
???

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 04:29 PM | Reply

Police first and foremost are there to protect the moneyed elite from the masses. We peons come last.

#78 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-11-14 04:35 PM | Reply

"Life is a fundamental human right, and we have an embedded right to defend our own lives with proportionate force. For practical purposes, police cannot adequately provide that protection because it takes too long for them to arrive on scene. Guns do not guarantee our safety, but they offer us a choice and a chance." --- Kevin Michalowski

#74 | Posted by flagger

....as long as we ignore data about how owning a gun actually makes you more likely to get killed by one.

#79 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 04:40 PM | Reply

In other words, you're okay with crazy people getting guns.

We already have mental health provisions in purchases.

#80 | Posted by boaz at 2022-11-14 04:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So, how do we prevent those with the wrong character from getting guns?

It is not about freedom of choice, it is about keeping guns out of the hands of those your comments seems to deem as not having the proper character to own a gun.

That's the thing. You cant. You cant not give someone a right for what they might do. They have to make the choice and then pay the consequences of it. This isnt the minority report.

#81 | Posted by boaz at 2022-11-14 04:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

In other words, you're okay with crazy people getting guns.

We already have mental health provisions in purchases.

#80 | Posted by boaz

And they're clearly strong enough to keep nutjobs from getting WMDs.

#82 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 05:00 PM | Reply

The party that just attempted a fascist coup on the command of a con man wants to makes sure they maintain access to whatever they fantasize about using to overthrow democracy next time.

#83 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 05:01 PM | Reply

They have to make the choice and then pay the consequences of it.
#81 | POSTED BY BOAZ

We make the choice that owning guns is a right -- even if you're crazy.

The consequence is the highest gun violence rate in the modern world.

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 05:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That's the thing. You cant."

You can't make it impossible to get guns.

But we don't even try to make it difficult. We say guns are a right. We make it easy to get guns. Probably the easiest country on earth to get guns in.

One of the most noteworthy results is blacks killing each other, and Republicans support that. They crow about it whenever it happens in Chicago. They try to blame Democrats for it, but the Second Amendment is the reason Democrats can't do anything about it.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 05:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The consequence is the highest gun violence rate in the modern world."

In the mind of primitives, that equals "freedom".

#86 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-11-14 05:34 PM | Reply

The NRA stood for gun control and gun safety until the crazies took over and made them shills for gun manufacturers instead.

#87 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-11-14 05:58 PM | Reply

"Life is a fundamental human right, and we have an embedded right to defend our own lives with proportionate force. For practical purposes, police cannot adequately provide that protection because it takes too long for them to arrive on scene. Guns do not guarantee our safety, but they offer us a choice and a chance." --- Kevin Michalowski
#74 | POSTED BY FLAGGER

"Owning a gun increases the likelihood of you being killed by a gun."

---Simple reality

But, on the bright side, Rush Limbaugh is still dead.

#88 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-11-14 06:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In other words, you're okay with crazy people getting guns.
We already have mental health provisions in purchases.

#80 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Yet, guns rights advocates say, all the time, that laws don't prevent gun violence. that a new law will only be ignored. So, why are "mental health provisions" more useful than say, outright bans of certain types of guns?

#89 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-11-14 06:44 PM | Reply

We make the choice that owning guns is a right

No, the constitution made that choice for us.

#90 | Posted by boaz at 2022-11-14 08:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

No, the constitution made that choice for us.

#90 | POSTED BY BOAZ

A choice made without the input of the vast majority of those impacted-i.e. women, PoC, Non-protestants, Asians, etc.

-A Simple Fact

#91 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-11-14 08:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

but the Second Amendment is the reason Democrats can't do anything about it.

Let me educate you, you progressive racist.

Democrats can do NOTHING about blacks killing each other. THAT, is going to take the black community and ONLY the black community.

#92 | Posted by boaz at 2022-11-14 08:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Whites outlawing slavery can do NOTHING about blacks being slaves. THAT, is going to take the black community and ONLY the black community.

^
This explains why you're wrong.

#93 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-14 09:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Democrats can do NOTHING about blacks killing each other. THAT, is going to take the black community and ONLY the black community.

#92 | Posted by boaz

Yeah it's not like crime results from economic oppression or anything right?

#94 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-14 09:16 PM | Reply

"Let me educate you, you progressive racist."

LOL!!!

This homeboy's off tha chain!!!!

#95 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-11-14 09:37 PM | Reply

So much racism dripping through one thread.

#96 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-15 08:02 AM | Reply

But, on the bright side, Rush Limbaugh is still dead.

#88 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

And Alex Jones has to pay a billion dollars to the victims of his lies.

#97 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-15 10:00 AM | Reply

Gun violence has nothing to do with guns. It has everything to do with the character of people.
#13 | POSTED BY BOAZ

NYS passes a law after 5/14 to make it harder for crazy people to get a weapon by looking at the character of people.

----------- immediately sue to stop the law and a republican appointed judge blocked it.

#98 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-11-15 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's one way to put it. Another is that they passed a law trying to circumvent the ending of May Issue permitting and were rightfully shot down.

#99 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-15 01:05 PM | Reply

#92 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Says the racist cracker who sleeps with his AR-15. Let me tell YOU something. You don't speak for anyone but yourself.
And you should just STFU.

#100 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-15 03:30 PM | Reply

You Must Be This Stupid:
"Gun violence has nothing to do with guns."
To Be a Republican.

Thank you for making that clear, Boaz.
You're a credit to your race -- and your party!

#101 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-15 07:57 PM | Reply

Perhaps colleges need to start insisting their students' get scanned for brain damage before they allow them to play a contact sport.

The shooter makes me think of Michael Vicks and no that's not a compliment

#102 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-15 08:37 PM | Reply

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