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Friday, November 18, 2022

In a preview of the intra-party battle ahead, far-right House Republicans, led by MAGA firebrand Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, vowed Thursday to fight against Ukraine aid.

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These people are Russian assets. Like some of the people here.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-18 07:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

It should be physically painful to be this stupid.

#2 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-11-18 08:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Putin be gettin' desperate.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-18 01:24 PM | Reply

I guess we need to give Ukraine twice as many Javelin missiles as we have so far tell them to use them sparingly and wish them good luck.

That being said there's nothing to stop us from continuing to share information with the ukrainians.

Of course we really wanted to we could start giving them warplanes.

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-18 01:57 PM | Reply

I told you this was gonna happen if the GOP takes the House.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-18 05:09 PM | Reply

"Is Great Britain now the 51st state of the United States of America and what position does Winston Churchill have in our government?" the historically brain-dead Greene bleated.

#6 | Posted by zarnon at 2022-11-18 05:11 PM | Reply

So, exactly how many of these loons are out there? Republicans don't really seem the type to support a Russian invasion of anywhere.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-18 05:49 PM | Reply

These are the nutjob Children of T-rump. and they shall be with us a few years... the remnants of the Tea Party and the dupes of the Est GOP they think they are fighting.

The Sen Dems and some Republican help with the same sex marriage bill, which is a civil matter, not a religious one, while their attention was on the shiny T-rump rally at Mar a Lardo.

But expect to see more of that as the GOP is pushed a bit towards the center by corporate controlled zombies who "think" that The Donald is, "for the werkin' man!".

Which is under the How Dumb Can You Get? category now.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-18 06:06 PM | Reply

In some parts of the Ukraine 30% of the population are ethnic Russian. They are being executed by the Ukrainians with our help. CNN showed a Ukrainian giving Nazi salutes while waving the flag. You are supporting real Nazis.

#9 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-18 06:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No doubt there are dozens of well known NGO's out there that agree Ukraine was engaging in large scale ethnic cleansing before Saint Vlad came to the rescue.

....LOL

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-18 06:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Of course they are.

Vlad gave them campaign cash. Now they're paying him back.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2022-11-18 07:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

CNN showed a Ukrainian giving Nazi salutes while waving the flag. You are supporting real Nazis.

#9 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Just one?

There are far more than that at your average Trump rally.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2022-11-18 07:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

CNN showed a Ukrainian giving Nazi salutes

Wouldn't that make it Fake News?

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-18 07:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#9 | Posted by visitor_

So clueless. Russians are doing all the executing. First, who invaded who? Any and all deaths are on Russia. Second, returned Russian POW's when asked about torture's answer? Yes we were tortured. The only thing the claimed when asked several questions with a "nyet" answer? "They made us listen to music." Russian torture? Mass graves and torture chambers in every recaptured area.

As already stated on the Nazi idea - you find more of them at a Trump rally. What about the Russian race driver who gave one from the podium? Nobody is disputing something like 2-3% of the population are Nazi supporters btw and it wasn't even a clear sieg heil. Yes, I have seen the video.

#14 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-11-18 09:26 PM | Reply

How much money are we up to?

How long and how much should we spend in a proxy war with Russia before we say, "Enough!"

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-18 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

The world isn't so simple with all the good guys one one side and all the bad guys on the other.

#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-18 09:56 PM | Reply

CNN showed a Ukrainian giving Nazi salutes while waving the flag.

The whole world witnessed you ------------, cop-killing Nazis invade DC.

#17 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2022-11-19 12:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How long and how much should we spend in a proxy war with Russia before we say, "Enough!"
#15 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Enough proxy war, time for real war?

You're like a child.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-19 12:56 AM | Reply

Ballwasher exposes herself as a Putin taint-licker. SAD!

#19 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-19 02:11 AM | Reply

The world isn't so simple with all the good guys one one side and all the bad guys on the other.

#16 | POSTED BY VISITOR

It's easy - you and your ilk are retarded children, the rest of the world has an IQ north of room temperature.

#20 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-19 02:12 AM | Reply

"In some parts of the Ukraine 30% of the population are ethnic Russian. They are being executed by the Ukrainians with our help."

When Visitor can't make an intelligent comment he just makes s**t up because he
Now let's stop and ask why are there so many Russians in Ukraine? Because Stalin murdered so many Ukrainians that they couldn'toperate the farms in Ukraine that Russians depend on for food. So millions of Russians wew forcibly moved to Ukraine to replace the people Stalin murdered.. Just like Putin is doing now, The Ukrainian joke is...why are Russians stealing so many toilets from Ukraine, which is an actual fact BTW? Because they are so stupid they think they are spcial pots to make borscht. Russia is punishing Ukraine for being successful economically and wanting to join EU and leave backwards Ruussia permanently. Economists say Putin is setting Russia back 40 years economically.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2022-11-19 04:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

What kind of people think all the evil is on one side and all the good on the other?

The Ukraine war is also a money laundering scheme.

#22 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-19 08:22 AM | Reply

The Ukraine war is also a money laundering scheme.

#22 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

You mean, like Trump real estate ventures?

#23 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-19 08:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

What kind of people think all the evil is on one side and all the good on the other?

#22 | POSTED BY VISITOR

MAGAs?

Pardon me, must have breakfast. Haven't had any baby blood yet today.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-19 08:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Ukraine war is also a money laundering scheme.
#22 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
You mean, like Trump real estate ventures?

#23 | POSTED BY ZED

Not really.

Trump didn't funnel 80 billion from the US treasury to the Ukraine and the military industrial complex in exchange for sending a portion of that money back to Democrats using cryptocurrency.

#25 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-19 09:05 AM | Reply

The bankruptcy-prone orange pedo received billions from China, Russia and Saudi Arabia and spent a sliver of it to fund his insurrection.

#26 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-11-19 09:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump didn't funnel 80 billion from the US treasury to the Ukraine and the military industrial complex in exchange for sending a portion of that money back to Democrats using cryptocurrency.

#25 | POSTED BY VISITOR

If you can get this thing above water as a serious allegation rather than a stupid conspiracy theory someone might give you a Pulitzer.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-19 09:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

cryptocurrency.

#25 | POSTED BY VISITOR

Is another thing you people don't understand, so it must be another demon.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-19 09:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I understand that currency should have a relatively stable value or it's not really useful as a currency.

Only criminals want to hide their financial transactions from the government, right?

#29 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-19 10:00 AM | Reply

I'm all for not funding Ukraine with just unaccounted for money, however I am for supporting Ukraine with weapons, vehicles, etc... at least we would know where the money is going

#30 | Posted by Maverick at 2022-11-19 11:52 AM | Reply

#29 | Posted by visitor_

Oh please, tell us more. I mean there is clearly no war going on. Russians aren't targeting and killing civilians. Heck Russia didn't even invade, it's clearly all made up. Puh-lease.

You are the one saying it isn't so easy good guys vs bad guys. I think we all know that. War is always ugly. Even otherwise good people will do vile things. In this case, Certainly some areas are 30% Russian - they have a lot of troops concentrated in Ukraine and are forcibly shipping Ukrainians to Russia. But no I am not ignorant of cultural make up of Ukraine and I don't think anyone here is.

There are ethnic Russians all over Eastern Europe, does that give Russia the right to invade?
We have ethnic Russians in the US, does that give Russia the right to invade?

Do you even know how that 30% number was reached? It happened under the Soviet Union. Holodomor was a big piece because Russian farmers were brought in. But for long after they would take Ukrainians from their homes and ship them to the far East of Russia and to the Stans. They took in particular young men. And they brought in ethnic Russians in Return. They took Ukrainians, Cossacks, Roma and others. There is a documentary made after Ukraine's independence. The makers went from village to village interviewing the very elderly. They talk about those times about what the Russians did.

BTW, Did you know that Zelensky won with 78% of the vote? The elections were monitored and judged fair before you go there. I mean before he invaded, Zelensky offered to make Ukraine permanently neutral. So What was Putin's reason for invasion? What had to be done through war? Who is targeting civilians? Who is torturing civilians and soldiers? What country is ruled by a dictator? What country suppresses the opposition by imprisonment, torture and assassination? It makes the good guys vs the bad guys very clear.

#31 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-11-19 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's weird how American white supremacist and neo nazis on the run from the law always end up in Russia and not the Ukraine!

Seems counter intuitive to the often repeated assertion that Ukraine is full of nazis, since American nazis run away to Russia and not the Ukraine

#32 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2022-11-19 05:20 PM | Reply

It's like "The McCarthy Era - Part II" but the exact opposite in tacitly supporting Russian tyrants.

#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-11-19 05:24 PM | Reply

Crushing the Russian military for less than 5% of 1 year military spending is an amazing bargain. How we go about funding that is irrelevant as long as it gets done.

#35 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-19 06:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#35 ... Crushing the Russian military for less than 5% of 1 year military spending is an amazing bargain. ...

Yes, that would be a true accomplishment.

But I suspect that those opposing our support of a sovereign Ukraine are opposing something different.

And, along those lines, I will ask, again, just how far has Russia penetrated into the Republican Party?

NRA Was 'Foreign Asset' To Russia Ahead of 2016, New Senate Report Reveals (2019)
www.npr.org

...The National Rifle Association acted as a "foreign asset" for Russia in the period leading up to the 2016 election, according to a new investigation unveiled Friday by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.

Drawing on contemporaneous emails and private interviews, an 18-month probe by the Senate Finance Committee's Democratic staff found that the NRA underwrote political access for Russian nationals Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin more than previously known " even though the two had declared their ties to the Kremlin.

The report, available here, also describes how closely the gun rights group was involved with organizing a 2015 visit by some of its leaders to Moscow. ...


Wow, evidence-based report, instead of conspiracy theories based upon ... well, nada.

#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-19 07:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It might seem like less of a bargain when the missiles fly.

What should ethic Russians do now that Ukrainians want them gone? They were born in the Ukraine, have generations of ties to the area. Before you answer remember we have a population whose ancestors were displaced too.

#37 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-19 07:59 PM | Reply

@#37 ... What should ethic Russians do now that Ukrainians want them gone? ...

For starters, please provide evidence, and a whole lot more detail, to your assertion.

In the words of the Frasier TV show (do they get that where you live in Russia?), "I'm listening."

#38 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-19 08:14 PM | Reply

In Russia they have great therapists who immediately report everything you say to the government.

#39 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-20 01:11 AM | Reply

How long and how much should we spend in a proxy war with Russia before we say, "Enough!"

#15 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2022-11-18 09:35 PM | REPLY | FUNNY: 1

Ronald Reagan would answer: "until we win"

too bad you and your despicable party have moved to the far right of him.

#40 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-11-20 02:02 AM | Reply

"What should ethic Russians do now that Ukrainians want them gone? They were born in the Ukraine, have generations of ties to the area. Before you answer remember we have a population whose ancestors were displaced too.

"What should ethic Russians do now that Ukrainians want them gone? They were born in the Ukraine, have generations of ties to the area. Before you answer remember we have a population whose ancestors were displaced too."

The word you are looking for is ethnic not ethic but since rhe GQP has no ethica it isn't surprising that know nothings like you don't know the difference

As far as your stupid comment, it is the Russian invaders that are trying to wipe out the Ukrainian people regardless of their heritage.

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#41 | Posted by danni at 2022-11-20 02:48 AM | Reply

#40 | Posted by Alexandrite

Ya, what happened to the Republican mantra, "fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here?"

At a cost of 5% or our military budget to supply weapons & advice, Ukraine can decimate Russia's military in a year and we don't have to do anything but provide the weapons for them to do it. Deal of the century!

#42 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-11-20 05:50 AM | Reply

Torture chamber," mass grave found in Kherson, Ukraine after Russia's retreat

www.cbsnews.com

The orcs can always count on the GQP to have their backs.

#44 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-11-20 06:30 AM | Reply

Boris, crawl back up Putin's --------.

#47 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-11-20 06:39 AM | Reply

"I don't quite understand why only [Russian President Vladimir] Putin is criticized while Mr. Zelensky isn't taken to task at all."

I will ezplainit to yoy. Russia on Putin's otders invaded Ukraine and nurdered yhousands of people, including the Russian speaking portion of the population who you Putin ass kissing traitors claim to care so much about Zelensky has not retaliated inside of Russia though I hope that changes soon. So does rhat clarify things in your brain clouded by Russian propaganda brought to you daily on Fox News I believe that the traitorous scum who do Putin's bidding are going to have hell ta Bin Laden ever was.o pay if Ameriva finally does get dragged into yhis war against terrorism. Prtin is every bit as nuch a terrorist as Osama Bin Laden ever was. TGQP is a terrorist supporting organization.

#48 | Posted by danni at 2022-11-20 06:46 AM | Reply

Why were press cut off in Kherson?

Why are Russians leaving mass graves all over Ukraine?

#50 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-11-20 06:49 AM | Reply

People like Greene, Biggs, Gaetz and the rest of that gang of dangerous idiots, exhibit a natural affinity for Russia, Putin, and their orcs. Remember, these are people who live to bend the knee to authority, regard anyone not part of their group with (at best) latent hostility, lash out angrily when something doesn't go their way, wonder why they aren't loved, and will threaten to kill you if they think you're standing in their way.

#52 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-11-20 06:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is Russia's M.O.

www.dailymail.co.uk

#53 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-11-20 06:59 AM | Reply

Hello, Russian scum is getting pummeled. Sucks to be you.

#56 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-11-20 07:27 AM | Reply

Hello, big explosion in St. Petersburg. You orcs need to watch where you smoke.LOL

www.newsweek.com

#59 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-11-20 07:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hello, another Putin crony is dead. Womp Womp.

www.dailymail.co.uk

#60 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-11-20 07:38 AM | Reply

#58 | POSTED BY SLAPAHOTRIBE

Which Ho was your mom?

#61 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-20 08:00 AM | Reply

Biden's help to Ukraine has been called one of the most successful foreign policy initiatives since World War II.

Of course the Trump/Putin fascists want it dead.

#62 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-20 08:01 AM | Reply

"Of course the Trump/Putin fascists want it dead."

Putin is the defacto leader of the GQP. Trump should only be referred to as the former Vice President since Putin was acting President. I really don't know where that leaves Mike Pence.

#63 | Posted by danni at 2022-11-20 08:19 AM | Reply

It's kind of stupid to decimate a rival that might have been an ally in the very real upcoming conflict with China. Our involvement is a proxy proxy war that China is fighting. China is getting a real deal, they aren't even spending a dime to decimate Russian forces.

It might seem like less of a bargain when the missiles fly.

#64 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-20 10:38 AM | Reply

#64 | POSTED BY VISITOR

Part of the value in degrading Russian forces is because it hurts Trump.

#65 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-20 10:47 AM | Reply

Zed that doesn't make any sense. In this country the biggest beneficiarys are the military industrial complex and their vassals in government.

#66 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-20 11:11 AM | Reply

Zed that doesn't make any sense.

#66 | POSTED BY VISITOR

If you identify Trump and Putin as being part of the same fascist movement it makes perfect sense.

#67 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-20 11:19 AM | Reply

Putting those two together doesn't reflect reality.

Trump is not known for being a player in arms sales or development. Many establishment Democrats and Republicans are very deep into it. Of the 80 billion spent how much do you think went to Trump or his allies? To Joe's?

#68 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-20 11:37 AM | Reply

50% of the Russian military has been destroyed for less than 5% of what the F-35 program cost. Airborne, attack helicopter squadrons, tank corps, Wagner, the Black Sea fleet have all been mauled.

Just stfu already. It's the greatest geopolitical bargain in everybody here's lifetime.

#69 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-20 11:59 AM | Reply

You sound like morons questioning the funding of the Pacific campaign against Imperial Japan. Lets be honest about what it is. Republicans not getting pork just want their slice. It has ------- nothing to do with morales.

#70 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-20 12:00 PM | Reply

Just stfu already. It's the greatest geopolitical bargain in everybody here's lifetime.
#69 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

9/11 had more bang for the buck, but I see what you are saying.

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-20 12:03 PM | Reply

9/11 had more bang for the buck, but I see what you are saying.

#71 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2022-11-20 12:03 PM | FLAG:

Yeah from the perspective of government spending farmers lol.

For actually crushing a nuclear armed superpower's "elite expeditionary force"... What a Bargain!

#72 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-20 12:09 PM | Reply

50% of the Russian military has been destroyed for less than 5% of what the F-35 program cost. Airborne, attack helicopter squadrons, tank corps, Wagner, the Black Sea fleet have all been mauled.
Just stfu already. It's the greatest geopolitical bargain in everybody here's lifetime.

That's what Xi said.

#73 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-20 12:28 PM | Reply

"Republicans not getting pork just want their slice."

No, that's not it at all.
This isn't about pet projects for their districts.
This is about Republicans who get their funding foom Putin, and Putin wants the HIMARS to go away.

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-20 12:31 PM | Reply

That's what Xi said.

#73 | POSTED BY VISITOR

Well, then, a lot of people are saying it. In Trumpian terms it's true.

#75 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-20 12:32 PM | Reply

It's kind of stupid to decimate a rival that might have been an ally in the very real upcoming conflict with China.

Seriously? Russia was never going to be our ally against China, at best they would have been neutral but more likely would be an ally of China. Trying to frame stopping aid to Ukraine as an anti-China move is beyond desperate.

#76 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2022-11-20 12:51 PM | Reply

This is about Republicans who get their funding foom Putin, and Putin wants the HIMARS to go away.

#74 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2022-11-20 12:31 PM | FLAG:

Pay for their pork and they'll stfu.

Republican's can't stop the HIMARS train anyways. Poland which donated over half it's military to Ukraine, just ordered 220 HIMARS from Lockheed Martin.

#77 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-20 01:13 PM | Reply

Right now there's only 18 HIMARS platforms in theater, and it's been very, very bad for Russians.

#78 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-20 01:16 PM | Reply

Only criminals want to hide their financial transactions from the government, right?

#29 | Posted by visitor

You mean like Trump and his 8-year fight trying to keep his tax returns secret, eh?

OCU

#79 | Posted by OCUser at 2022-11-20 03:01 PM | Reply

No, more like using cryptocurrency to avoid banking reporting requirements. (Actual laws requiring reporting)

#80 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-20 03:08 PM | Reply

Putin farewell tour:

pic.twitter.com/7qlDKzWv9O" Synonym (@Synonymikus) November 19, 2022

#81 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-11-20 05:49 PM | Reply

""What should ethic Russians do now that Ukrainians want them gone?"

Ethnically Russians and Ukrainians are the same but, for atgument's sake, let's pretend they are different. So who is murdering those you believe to be Russians? It is the Russian missiles, artillary and Infantry that is killing them. Do you believe someone goes out to the area of a missile target and asks if they speak Russian? No the missile id fired from a distance away so it is just ridiculous to claim, with no evidence, that, so called,so called, ethnic Ukrainians are nurdering, so called ethnic Russians. Even if thee were some ethnic Russians and some, so called ethnic Ukrainian, murdered some it would be a very miniscule number killed compared to the number the Russian military kills every day. It should be remembered that Ukraine was part of the USSR fpr a very long time and virtually all Ukrainians are quite fluent in Russian.
Pcloser examination, yhis whole stupid argument falls apaer completely and is really just the rantings of Putin syvhopgants like Rucjker Carlsob which, obviously, some idiots wgp post here listen to regularly.

#82 | Posted by danni at 2022-11-20 07:31 PM | Reply

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