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Sunday, November 20, 2022

People in their 80s lead countries, create majestic art and perform feats of endurance. One entered the record books for scaling Mount Everest. It's soon time for Joe Biden, 80 on Sunday, to decide whether he has one more mountain to climb -- the one to a second term as president.

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...Questions swirl now, in his own party as well as broadly in the country, about whether he's got what it takes to go for the summit again.

The oldest president in U.S. history, Biden hits his milestone birthday at a personal crossroads as he and his family face a decision in the coming months on whether he should announce for reelection. He'd be 86 at the end of a potential second term. ...

"There is something to be said for experience," said Dartmouth College historian Matt Delmont as he noted the dozens of global leaders in their 80s.

But to observe Biden is also to see him walk now often with a halting gait, in contrast to his trotting on stage on election night 2020.

It is to see him take a pass on a formal dinner with other world leaders without a real explanation, as happened on his trip abroad this past week, when he twice spoke of visiting Colombia when he meant Cambodia. Some supporters wince when he speaks, hoping he gets through his remarks OK....



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-19 04:48 PM | Reply

Too old. Sorry.

#2 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-11-19 08:27 PM | Reply

The republicans had a chance to unseat Biden but then trump announced he was running.

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-20 04:05 PM | Reply

I don't think he'll run... unless the Dems can't find someone that can beat the T word or Desantist or Liz Cheney.

With those iffy opponents, perhaps some Dems who otherwise wouldn't run for what has become a brutal, thankless job might step up.

Maybe the guy who runs the soon to be 4th largest economy in the world?

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-20 04:12 PM | Reply

I don't think he should run again. The Presidency takes its toll on people and Joe Biden is no different. By defeating Trump he saved the country from the slide toward totalitarianism, at least for a while. He should finish out his term and spend the rest of the years enjoying life and his family.

#5 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-11-20 04:19 PM | Reply

The dems could replace Harris with someone who would make a great President and make everyone happy.

Harris would make a adequate President but there are about 100-200 people who would do a better job.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-20 04:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Harris would make a adequate President but there are about 100-200 people who would do a better job.

You need a celebrity. Being good at the job is secondary.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-20 04:22 PM | Reply

celebrity?

Michelle Obama and Dolly Parton come to mind.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-20 04:24 PM | Reply

Michelle Obama and Dolly Parton come to mind.

Michelle don't want it. Neither does Jon Stewart, not that a Jew has any hope. Dolly would be 78. Oprah might have enough clout and cash to overcome the black woman part.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-20 04:34 PM | Reply

John Kerry and Wesley Clark were both part Jewish and almost got elected.

....Are either of them under 75?

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-20 04:41 PM | Reply

....Are either of them under 75?

Nope.

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-20 04:47 PM | Reply

Al gore is under the age of 75 but I'm snoring just thinking about him.

Are there any Lieutenant Governors that are crazy popular?

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-20 07:11 PM | Reply

Are there any Lieutenant Governors that are crazy popular?

I think the bench is pretty thin.

#13 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-20 07:50 PM | Reply

Just that phrase" I am a respected of fate" proves he is overdue to GTFO and let someone more enthusiastic step up to lead his party I don't want my President to be a "respecter of fate." I want him or her to change fate.

#14 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-11-20 08:35 PM | Reply

Louisiana has a very popular Governor right now. He'd be a good Vice president.

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-20 08:52 PM | Reply

He should finish out his term and spend the rest of the years enjoying life and his family.

#5 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE

I am sure that Biden would agree. And I bet he wouldn't have run in the first place if not for Trumpy.

But he did risk his life and at his age he could have already died in office and so I bet he would obviously risk his life again for this country if he needed to.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-20 09:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I agree that the Dems should have an alternative candidate to Biden, unless Biden really wants the job again.

I don't think Trump has any shot at winning, but the Dems could give him the seat if they run a wack-job.

#17 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-11-21 05:58 AM | Reply

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#18 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-11-21 06:18 AM | Reply

Unfortunately the celebrity aspect appears to have become a thing.... even a 3rd rate reality show host can become Pres if they convince people they are both angry and rich.

Knowing anything about governing, economics, social issues, the law, or politics seems to be a detriment to winning.

So, I hereby nominate The Rock 2024!

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-21 01:26 PM | Reply

"I don't think Trump has any shot at winning,"

Famous last words.

Pretty sure I said the exact same thing.

At least I got to live to regret it.

A million or so Americans (mostly ultramaga republicans apparently) did not.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-21 01:37 PM | Reply

#20

It depends on the direction the Repubs go.

Right now there are quite a few candidates testing the waters for a potential run. Trump will always have his MAGA base, but they are by no means close to a majority.

If the Repubs choose a primary candidate and unite behind them in the primaries, they can beat Trump there. If not, if a bunch of candidates go into the primaries, Trump will likely win the nominaiton.

Of course, if that happens, they lose the presidency...assuming the Dems run a candidate that is not equally trash.

#21 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-11-21 01:52 PM | Reply

Democrats need to be careful NOT to see the midterms as a sign of support for biden. They were just a SCREAM from the country that they dont want maga republicans in charge. If repubs run trump, we dont need biden to beat him, anyone could do it. Including bernie sanders.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-21 06:52 PM | Reply

Incumbents always have an advantage.

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-21 06:55 PM | Reply

Bernie, God love him, might be the only "Sosh'list!" Tword could beat.

Although if T's base were even semi-conscious, which they aren't, they might realize that between he and T, Bernie is the only one for working people and families and who is an actual populist of the left and an actual anti-globalist.

Where the other guy is a pretend rwing populist and the only thing about him that is really anti-globalist is his rhetoric to stir up the rwing populist base, notwithstanding that his is himself a waddling. fearmongering multi-national corporation... who hired more illegals than the DR has sockpuppets.

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#24 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-21 10:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If repubs run trump, we dont need biden to beat him, anyone could do it. Including bernie sanders."

Untrue.

Perhaps the only way I could ever be compelled to vote for Trump would be if the Dems ran a Bernie or Bernie equivalent.

"Bernie is the only one for working people and families and who is an actual populist of the left and an actual anti-globalist."

That sounds a lot like Trump as well.

The horseshoe theory really is a thing.

#25 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-11-22 12:50 AM | Reply

- That sounds a lot like Trump as well.

Well, see the difference is as noted above; Trump is lying, Bernie isn't.

With Trump, it's rhetoric for the easily duped Base, with Bernie it's policy for the People rather than sweetheart deals for big bidness.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-22 12:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Buttigieg can beat any of the Republican field.
I hope Biden steps aside, and Buttigieg runs.
He would be the clear favorite I would guess,
if Biden would retire.

#27 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-11-22 09:09 AM | Reply

Buttigieg can beat any of the Republican field.

I wouldn't be so certain of that. There could be a decent number of Americans who are subconsciously unwilling to vote for a short gay man and may find a way to come around to the other candidate as a result.

Buttigieg should be running the comms wing of the party in a very prominent way. I just don't think it's worth nominating anything other than a tall straight white male given how horrendously prejudiced this country has proven itself to be lately.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2022-11-22 09:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The 2024 election could literally turn on 500 people in Wisconsin being unable to come around to whatever immutable characteristic (black, female, gay, whatever) Dems decide to circle their wagons around. As much as i wish that wasn't the case, it simply isn't worth risking.

#29 | Posted by JOE at 2022-11-22 09:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do we really have to start pretending now that Buttigieg can be, or has any interest in being, the type of President the country needs? I don't know if I have the stamina to fake it like that for the next two years.

#30 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-11-22 10:27 AM | Reply

"Perhaps the only way I could ever be compelled to vote for Trump would be if the Dems ran a Bernie or Bernie equivalent."

And there you have it.

When folks say Trumpy has no chance to win never forget that some will still vote for a lying negligent criminal and a traitor responsible for millions of dead Americans rather than an "ebil radical far left socialist liberal" no matter how good for America they might actually be.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-22 11:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Pete Buttigieg is not a good Presidential candidate for 2024. I like him, but I don't think he's ready. He should run for Senate or Governor of Indiana in 2024. If he won one of those, he'd be a serious Presidential contender in 2028.

With the disappointment of Harris, I do think Biden needs to look for a different running mate. Assuming he runs in 2024. I had high hopes for Harris, but she's vastly underdelivered.

#32 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-11-22 11:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Associated Press writers Mark Sherman and Lauran Neergaard contributed to this report."

Pen names for Ron Klain and Jen Psaki.

Jesus H. What a nauseating puff piece. APB - Associated Press Biden.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-22 11:55 AM | Reply

yeah, like you read it. LOL

#34 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2022-11-22 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He should run for Senate or Governor of Indiana in 2024. If he won one of those, he'd be a serious Presidential contender in 2028.

While i agree that he would benefit from a step in between his current role and that of President, there is a 0% chance the State of Indiana elects a gay Democrat in a statewide race. Literally, 0%. So he'd either have to go carpetbag somewhere else or just skip that step entirely.

I had high hopes for Harris, but she's vastly underdelivered.

I didn't. She has never been a likeable political personality, and didnt even get traction amongst Dems. Couple that with the rampant racism and sexism in our society and it becomes clear she has zero chance of becoming President.

#35 | Posted by JOE at 2022-11-22 12:11 PM | Reply

" yeah, like you read it. LOL

#34 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2022-11-22 12:02 PM | FLAG: "

I read the whole thing and threw up in my mouth a little in the process. In the paragraph where Biden was gently criticized it was filled with friendly caveats.

Biden, "a super-ager"? Risible.

Almost every person quoted in that piece was pro-Biden/Democrat.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-22 12:19 PM | Reply

" Couple that with the rampant racism and sexism in our society and it becomes clear she has zero chance of becoming President.

#35 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2022-11-22 12:11 PM | FLAG: "

Barack Obama was a two term president and Hillary Clinton got more votes than Trump.

Harris is awful because she's awful.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-22 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Harris is awful because she's awful.

Well she had big shoes to fill... Mike Pence was a legend.

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-22 12:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

Do Mike Pence's shoes come in men's sizes?

#39 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-22 12:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Harris is awful because she's awful.
#37 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You said the same thing about Barack and Hillary.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-22 12:34 PM | Reply

Oddly enough. Considering how much he pretended to hate Trump. He never called him awful.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-11-22 12:40 PM | Reply

Harris is awful because she's awful.
#37 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Looks like after the Trumpy Error someone doesn't know what "awful" really means anymore.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-22 12:46 PM | Reply

Barack Obama was a two term president

Barack Obama was a unique political personality whose experience does not generalize to black politicians at large. His wins also served to galvanize Republicans into nominating and electing the most racist piece of ---- president we've had in several decades.

and Hillary Clinton got more votes than Trump.

Our elections aren't decided by popular vote, and i maintain she would have gotten even more votes if she were a dude. Women and minorities are handicapped in American politics; they can't go after their opponents aggressively without being seen by many as "bitchy" or "uppity." You can deny this reality if you want, but it's the truth.

#43 | Posted by JOE at 2022-11-22 01:23 PM | Reply

His wins also served to galvanize Republicans into nominating and electing the most racist piece of ---- president we've had in several decades.

That is 100% spot on. They may not have said it out loud and in plain language, but undoing everything TNITWH did was what got the Racist Right behind Trump. Cruz or Rubio would still have appointed hard righties to SCOTUS with Yertle's help. But I don't think either of those two would have pandered to the Racist Right like Trump did. They couldn't. The Racist Right doesn't like them either.

#44 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-11-22 01:35 PM | Reply

from above...

"I wouldn't be so certain of that. There could be a decent number of Americans who are subconsciously unwilling to vote for a short gay man and may find a way to come around to the other candidate as a result."

#28 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2022-11-22 09:36 AM

Yes. There will be haters. They are called Republicans.

And last I checked, a Democrat hasn't needed a Republican vote to win the Presidency ever.
As to Independents, those that lean right, may vote against him, but those that lean left I am
pretty sure, will have no problem voting for him. He is BY FAR the smartest candidate on either
side of the ball, and that SHOULD count for something still to most Americans.

#45 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-11-22 02:25 PM | Reply

"With Trump, it's rhetoric for the easily duped Base, with Bernie it's policy for the People rather than sweetheart deals for big bidness."

Bernie is for me?

Please explain. Because so far he hasn't been able to do so.

#46 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-11-22 02:29 PM | Reply

"When folks say Trumpy has no chance to win never forget that some will still vote for a lying negligent criminal and a traitor responsible for millions of dead Americans rather than an "ebil radical far left socialist liberal" no matter how good for America they might actually be."

Or bad. For America they might actually be.

Your ideology clouds you from recognizing that part.

#47 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-11-22 02:31 PM | Reply

Yes. There will be haters. They are called Republicans.

And last I checked, a Democrat hasn't needed a Republican vote to win the Presidency ever.

You really think there are zero people in this country who would vote for a straight white male Democrat but cant bring themselves to vote for a little gay guy?

I hope to god most Dems aren't as delusional as you are.

#48 | Posted by JOE at 2022-11-22 02:36 PM | Reply

"Our elections aren't decided by popular vote, and i maintain she would have gotten even more votes if she were a dude."

Wanna know something funny. HRC was a pitbull.

When she was at state, she toured AFG. She was shown real-time video of Taliban troops setting IEDs. She was curious why they were still alive.

Had by some chance, HRC been president when Putin invaded UKR...I think the situation would have looked very different. In fact I don't know that Putin would have invaded had HRC been president.

#49 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-11-22 02:39 PM | Reply

- I don't know that Putin would have invaded had HRC been president.

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have.

- with Bernie it's policy for the People rather than sweetheart deals for big bidness."
Bernie is for me?

You are a major global corporation?

The things one can learn here!

If you ever get over the delusion that northern European capitalist social democracies are really all Red Soviet-style socialism, you may be able to see beyond your nose.

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An interesting bit of history is that when the Berlin Wall came down, Gorby's Plan was to copy those social democratic neighbors of his.... which scared the Russian Oligarchs so much they found a mid level nobody KGB agent and ran him instead, hence we got Putin.

And the Oligarchs created a monster that came to own them, and whom they now cannot control.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-22 02:56 PM | Reply

"If you ever get over the delusion that northern European capitalist social democracies are really all Red Soviet-style socialism, you may be able to see beyond your nose."

Dude, I live in one of those places.

It's not people like me who are against European capitalist social democracies...it's people like you.

You're far more like a Red Soviet than a social democrat.

#51 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-11-23 02:07 AM | Reply

"European capitalist social democracies"

I like how you just shoe-horned the word "Capitalism" in there!

European Social Democracy
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#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-23 02:17 AM | Reply

#52

Yeah.

Normally Corky tends to shy away from acknowledging the cruciality of capitalism.

#53 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-11-23 12:28 PM | Reply

- It's not people like me who are against European capitalist social democracies.

You've spent half your time here comparing them to Soviet gulags and Marxist horror shows.

Don't deny it, that just makes you look silly.

- You're far more like a Red Soviet than a social democrat.

lmao.... So, someone who voted for Hil over Bernie is like a Red Soviet?

The further you dig this hole, the deeper in ---- you get.

#54 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-23 02:10 PM | Reply

#52

In most of these social democracies, business regulations are more lax than they are here.

Also property taxes on businesses and individuals are less than here.

Which, given all the perks (see: Rights) they have, the people in those countries vote themselves the Happiest in the World every year.

Well, except Mythwhiner, who is still upset that they are so happy when their tax rate is higher.

Of, course, they also have a the lowest poverty rate of any of the top 25 nation economies, while the US is dead last.

Just below Mexico, and right where we should be according to MB.

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-23 02:16 PM | Reply

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