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Thursday, November 24, 2022

John McFall, who lost a leg in a motorcycle accident when he was a teenager, was recruited by the European Space Agency and could soon be headed for space.

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America's already had a wheelchair-bound president, a crazy president, a rtarded president, and a black president.

I'm honestly surprised we haven't had a astronaut with a missing limb already.

It's not like they have to run anywhere.

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-25 02:02 AM | Reply

Tor,

Being black a disability?

#2 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-25 03:04 AM | Reply

It can definitely be a hindrance.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-11-25 04:56 AM | Reply

In the strictest sense no but then when you try to say get a cab or water a friends garden and suddenly holy crap you can be at such a disadvantage that at times it really does approach a disability.

If you look into the history of the Black Panthers they actually sympathized with disability activists because of the parallels they saw.

#4 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-25 05:27 AM | Reply

Tor,

So young blacks believe they're disabled?

Maybe that's the problem with their failure to succeed in America and then blaming it on racism.

They're self-defeating.

#5 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-25 07:47 AM | Reply

How many POS takes can Bill admit to having? I keep thinking we've seen the worst and then posts like this come along.

#6 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-11-25 11:26 AM | Reply

Just STFU Bill Johnson. You're a disgusting han being.

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-11-25 11:50 AM | Reply

He lost a McLeg in a McFall.

#8 | Posted by puppet16 at 2022-11-25 11:56 AM | Reply

#1 | Posted by Tor
you forgot-

Barack Obama: America's First Gay President

#9 | Posted by puppet16 at 2022-11-25 11:59 AM | Reply

Hag,

Don't be mad at me. Tor is who lumped them in with the disabled. I don't think they're disabled but Tor does.

I am friends of the deaf and many of them have refused to accept that label for themselves and they officially are considered to have an impairment.

It only makes sense some blacks would like that label because it compliments their permanent victim pity status after 50 plus years and it doesn't appear as a culture they're wanting to drop it anytime soon.

Speaking in generalities.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-25 12:08 PM | Reply

Hey Bill Johnson. Shouldn't you be out with your wife spending money?? It is after all Black Friday deals. Hell you might even pick up a black man for some cream pie.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-11-25 12:22 PM | Reply

I friends of the deaf and many of them have refused to accept that label for themselves and they officially are considered to have an impairment.

So your friends don't self-identify as disabled, they'd rather be referred to as impaired, and you respect that?

How considerate of you!

#12 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-25 12:28 PM | Reply

Hor,

"So your friends don't self-identify as disabled, they'd rather be referred to as impaired, and you respect that?"

You didn't get what I saying.

Deaf people are officially recognized as impaired or handicapped.

But many do not think of themselves as handicapped whatsoever. Many consider themselves fully functional people.

Tor apparently believes blacks have a history of thinking of themselves as handicapped.

My opinion was perhaps that mindset is contributing to their problems as a race in America.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-25 12:51 PM | Reply

Mentally handicapped? No.

physically handicapped? no

but do many of them have a handicap?

oh yes.

Now go troll elsewhere

#14 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-25 01:10 PM | Reply

Tor,

A lot of people have some sort of "handicap".

Emotionally unstable...anger issues...inability to mature...social phobia...etc

That boat don't float.

What's next? Gays are disabled?

You opened Pandora's Box.

I'm not interested in discussing this any further but you brought out a point that created a line of thinking.

Not only do blacks see themselves as targets of racism, but some apparently see "blackness" has a handicap which is self-deprecating and must be overcome from within.

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-25 01:20 PM | Reply

You didn't get what I saying.

I understood your dumb racist point, I just chose to point out the irony of your other comment about respecting people's wishes regarding identity.

Its you who doesn't get it, Bill.

#16 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-25 01:22 PM | Reply

Tor,

Self pity is very harmful...serves very little purpose and nothing good comes out of it.

I know.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-25 01:22 PM | Reply

Yikes, he's doubling down.

Thanks for telling us how black people see themselves, Bill!

#18 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-25 01:25 PM | Reply

Hor,

I should have guessed it. You and Tor are "independent" when I viewed your profiles.

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-25 01:45 PM | Reply

Hor,

You are right. I don't get anything about independents.

Their existence makes no sense.

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-25 01:48 PM | Reply

#19

Yep, independent. I've even voted Republican, back before Republicans decided culture war is all that matters and went full cult for Trump.

#21 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-25 01:58 PM | Reply

" some apparently see "blackness" has a handicap"

Some apparently are aware of American history.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-11-25 03:17 PM | Reply

" some apparently see "blackness" has a handicap"
College admission boards, for example

#23 | Posted by puppet16 at 2022-11-25 03:51 PM | Reply

"Some apparently are aware of American history."

Indeed billy is.

#24 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-25 03:55 PM | Reply

Self pity is very harmful...serves very little purpose and nothing good comes out of it.

We all must defer to your expertise on this matter.
Your other obvious talent is unflinching blind projection. It's your most Republican trait.

Tor's #1 also mentioned crazy. Not sure who he was referring to, take your pick. But 'crazy' clearly isn't a handicap. Everyone is a little crazy. You should see me when McKennie skies an ab-so-lute sitter from 6 yards out. It's embarrassing.
Newton was crazy as a --------- rat. He invented two separate fields of science by the time he was 23.
Diogenes lived in a clay jar. Total loon. Founded cynicism. He wouldn't like you very much.

Tor didn't say black is a handicap. YOU did. You did that. With your smug, condescending, anti-rhetorical, not-well-concealed-racism: "So young blacks believe they're disabled?
Maybe that's the problem with their failure to succeed in America and then blaming it on racism.
They're self-defeating.

So first you Project your filthy racism onto Tor, and then Project this imagined "self-pity" you have assigned to Tor's statement onto black people.

Google "noose".

#25 | Posted by BluSky at 2022-11-26 12:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#25 Blusky nailed it. Thank you for insights.

Labels are like pronouns, they should be a personal choice, as they can be very impactful in terms of the way you are treated and the expectations you have for yourself.

I spent 6 years using a wheelchair. Occasionally a thoughtful person would ask something like, "do you identify as disabled", or "What accommodations do you need". Some really cool conversations came from that.

"Handicapped" has fallen out of favor, but I thought that was a perfectly good word, maybe because of the golf reference, to me it implies a range of limitations and a potential for improvement.

Crippled" is a terrible word, and "Wheelchair bound" is even worse.

"Disabled" is the current PC word, but I never wanted to accept that label myself. I was "able" to do everything I needed to, it just took more time and creativity. ."Differently abled" sounds silly, but I guess I did learn a few new tricks.

Recently I've heard "person with disabilities" or "person with limitations". Those are really bulky and wordy but I like the way it makes the limitation secondary to the person.

Please have these conversations with "disabled" people you know. You'll be surprised by what you learn.

#26 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-11-26 08:50 AM | Reply

Blue,

"Tor didn't say black is a handicap. YOU did. You did that."

Neither of us stated blacks are handicapped.

What kicked this off was Tor included being black in with obvious handicaps and I asked if he thought being black was a handicap and he responded saying Black Panthers have felt aligned with disability activists.

I questioned if that means blacks themselves feel handicapped and perhaps that is a problem contributing to race issues in America and that would imply self pity on the parts of blacks and is something they have internalized and must solve within themselves.

But neither of us said being black is a handicap.

I'm done.

#27 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-26 11:15 AM | Reply

I'd be done to if I stepped in as big a pile as you did.

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2022-11-26 11:50 AM | Reply

I'm done.

POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2022-11-26 11:15 AM | REPL

For good???

#29 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-11-26 12:01 PM | Reply

What does it even matter?
They are either sitting in a seat or floating in zero-G. Legs are not required.

But let's make it about race, and see who can virtue-signal the loudest.

#30 | Posted by puppet16 at 2022-11-26 12:10 PM | Reply

"A lot of people have some sort of "handicap". Emotionally unstable...anger issues...inability to mature...social phobia...etc"

Now ... which of those can be determined from across the room?

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-11-26 12:11 PM | Reply

"neither of us said being black is a handicap."

"Learning history is hard werk!"

#32 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-11-26 12:14 PM | Reply

White racist trash like BullcrapJohnson and whoever PatoPuppet's puppeteer is can burn for eternity.

#33 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-26 12:40 PM | Reply

What does it even matter?

Thanks for bringing us back to why it matters.
Initially, before I got distracted by BJ, I wanted to comment on American exceptionalism regarding handicapped people. The first disabled person in space should have been an American.

European countries may have functioning economies, safe roads and non-parasitic healthcare systems, but they can't touch us when it comes to enabling people with physical disabilities to live, not just a normal life, but an exceptional one. They have some really cool old castles and churches and cobblestone. None of it is accessible by wheelchair. When winter comes to St. Petersburg and Oslo being handicapped means being a shut-in.

My mom owned a corner store. I walked there after school to push a broom, stock the walkin and whatnot. I remember in 7th grade spending a weekend in the late 80's pouring a concrete ramp after the Americans With Disabilities Act was passed. My step dad, a heartless buffoon, was bitching the entire time. "Damn government" this..."expensive tree-hugger laws" that....
The very first day the ramp was up a lady in a wheelchair that lived half a block away came to our store for the first time. She was so happy. She made me feel so good having built that ramp.

The little things matter. And they're not so little when it's you or someone close to you affected. Peak government is when it can virtue signal-boost and force us by rhetoric or law or at the point of a gun if necessary, to buff or nerf the commons to produce a better society for everyone. It matters because if the government doesnt use its' power to show people that a bad roll of the dice doesnt mean you are crapped out for life, no one will.
Space is now handicapped accessible! Name a better way to inspire every kid in a wheelchair. What more proof do they need that they can do anything they dream of?

Kudos to the ESA and congratulations to John McFall, but this should have been us.

#34 | Posted by BluSky at 2022-11-26 10:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'm done.
#27 | Posted by BillJohnson

Behold, it took 17 years, but Willy has finally said something clever.

#35 | Posted by BluSky at 2022-11-26 11:15 PM | Reply

"The little things matter. And they're not so little when it's you or someone close to you affected. ... if the government doesnt use its' power to show people that a bad roll of the dice doesnt mean you are crapped out for life, no one will."

Well put.

#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-11-26 11:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#34 | Posted by BluSky

Quality post!

#37 | Posted by puppet16 at 2022-11-26 11:57 PM | Reply

Blu,

My experience with being gay and my experience with the deaf has shown me how people internalize the negative attitudes of society directed towards them. I think most people have some idea of the problems one has being gay. The deaf live with people thinking they are mentally deficient and certainly the word dumb is offensive.

I had not really given it much thought that some blacks might view themselves as handicapped and that could easily be believable. Regardless I'm sure they live with the same internalized negative self images as other minorities.

Personally I am convinced perpetuating a constant victim status in society contributes to this problem.

#38 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-27 12:56 AM | Reply

My comment "I had not really given it much thought that some blacks might view themselves as handicapped and that could easily be believable." is not to be interpreted that I believe they are handicapped but that they may believe they are.

I am sure someone here who lacks word comprehension skills would have accused me of that...

#39 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-27 01:00 AM | Reply

is not to be interpreted that I believe they are handicapped but that they may believe they are.

You still dont get it. No African American. None. 0. "believe they are handicapped". You are either using the word handicapped incorrectly, or you have never had any personal relationship with any black person ever. This entire 'argument' (which is a total lack on any coherent argument) was conjured up by you from thin air. They actually display the complete opposite of the "self-pity" you have projected onto them. They're proud they are black. They are glad they are black. Any setback they experience in life at the hands of self-loathing racists they attribute to the racist.

Being black a disability?
#2 | Posted by BillJohnson

In the strictest sense no
#4 | Posted by Tor

So young blacks believe they're disabled?
#5 | Posted by BillJohnson

You see what you did there, Bueller? Again, and following a clear pattern, YOU have projected YOUR "lack of word comprehension skills" to the rest of us. You combine your failure to read the words put in front of you with this creepy Jordan Peterson tacit of making (stupid) descriptive claims but framing it is as question. "i mEaN, I DonT Know, But mAYbe maKIng ThEmSElves oUt tO bE VicTEms iS whY ThEy TuRNout To Be WOrthless??" It wreaks of race-realism pseudoscience which I suspect is bubbling just under the surface. You arent fooling anyone. None. 0.

#40 | Posted by BluSky at 2022-11-27 02:57 AM | Reply

Blu,

Anyone who has "anarchist" in their profile isn't to be taken serious.

#41 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2022-11-27 12:41 PM | Reply

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