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Sunday, November 27, 2022

Russia plans to stabilize the front in Ukraine this winter and "start anew in the spring."

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Another stable genius at werk.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-11-27 06:15 AM | Reply

Another stable genius at werk.

#1 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

Trump killed a few hundred thousand Americans without a shot being fired. Mostly Republicans so Democrats won the mid-terms.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-27 02:54 PM | Reply

I sure hope this is well reported to the Russian people so that they will know how Putin values the lives of their sons, husbands, brothers, etc.in his unnecessary and unprovoked war on a nation populated by people who sre virtually just like Russians.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2022-11-27 03:12 PM | Reply

#3 | Posted by danni
I sure hope this is well reported to the Russian people...

Not a chance. Putin has complete control over all media so most Russians will only hear that a few patriots are going to be fighting the evil Nazis.

#4 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2022-11-27 03:34 PM | Reply

Russian media is controlled tightly by Putin but there is another more truthful news source Russians have access to; i.e. train car loads of body bags. That's hard to conceal even for Putin.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2022-11-27 03:41 PM | Reply

Ukrainians are happy to help Russians surrender and send them to Poland.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-27 04:48 PM | Reply

Since when did winter interfere with missile launches?

What Putin wants is to stop the fighting so he has time to re-supply and regroup.

I hope Zalensky doesn't fall for this ruse and keeps pounding the shjt out of them.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-11-27 05:11 PM | Reply

Winning!!

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-27 05:22 PM | Reply

Since when did winter interfere with missile launches?

Might not have many left. If they do, I'm sure they will keep launching them.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-27 05:25 PM | Reply

Ukraine once again controls the North Crimean Canal.

They may be able to conquer Crimea simply by threatening to withhold water if the locals don't help them drive out the Russians.

#10 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-27 05:36 PM | Reply

...i.e. train car loads of body bags. That's hard to conceal even for Putin.

#5 | Posted by danni
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Many of the Russians know they are not getting the full story or the truth. As Danni mentioned, you can't hide the body bags. Brothers, sons, fathers, cousins, coming home dead. One bereaved talks of their loss only to find others with the same loss. What their eyes and ears tell them, isn't the same as what they are hearing on the news. They then know what to believe and who from.

#11 | Posted by BBQ at 2022-11-27 05:52 PM | Reply

Russia still has 10000 missiles to shoot.

Your average Russian uses a VPN, gets external news, but doesn't believe much of it as media has low credibility everywhere.

They have flooded the front with troops so breakthroughs are much harder now and greatly outnumber Ukrainians. Ukraine logistics are stretching and the mishmash of equipment makes the problems worse and breakdowns are now effecting the front.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-28 06:31 AM | Reply

Prediction: One quarter million Russian dead by Spring.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-28 08:58 AM | Reply

This is a lot of propaganda. Zelenskyy once claimed Russia lost 100,000 soldiers. Russia said it was about 6,000. If Zelenskyy surrendered, it would avoid a lot of misery and bloodshed.

#15 | Posted by wolfdog at 2022-11-28 11:16 AM | Reply

In the era of OSINT propaganda isn't worth what it used to be. Most reasonable estimates have it at 70k-80k Russian KIA. Ukraine has lost about the same despite having to launch offensives with 1 to 1 numbers instead of 3 to 1, and Russian pushes having the 3 to 1 superiority and still failing. It looks like WW1 in Bahkmut, complete with forests reduced to sharpened sticks and mud soaked trenches in worse shape than what the Germans dug into France in 1917.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-28 11:59 AM | Reply

If Russian monthly KIA drops by over 50% when the ground freezes then they'll be at 100k by Spring. Their estimate is low. The Revolver 860 drones from Taiwan are appearing on the front.

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-28 12:02 PM | Reply

If Zelenskyy surrendered, it would avoid a lot of misery and bloodshed.

#15 | POSTED BY WOLFDOG

Why would any Chief of State surrender when he's winning?

You are about as an extreme Trump/Putin fascist as comes here.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-28 12:35 PM | Reply

"If Zelenskyy surrendered, it would avoid a lot of misery and bloodshed."

No it wouldn't.

There's literally no reason to believe that.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-28 12:40 PM | Reply

Ukraine once again controls the North Crimean Canal.

#10 | Posted by Tor

Do you have a link to anything confirming this?

OCU

#20 | Posted by OCUser at 2022-11-28 02:46 PM | Reply

If Putin stopped his unjustified attack on a sovereign country, it would avoid a lot of misery and bloodshed.

#21 | Posted by eightfifteenpm at 2022-11-28 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

How did Russia become so pathetic and weak so quickly? At this point, nobody seriously doubts but that every former member of the Eastern Bloc / Warsaw Pact could now kick Russian ass if supplied by the West.

#22 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-11-28 03:06 PM | Reply

A lot of expensive technology designed specifically to find, track, and blow up Russians applied at the right places and times by special forces rushing from place to place on ATVs, and the tremendous sacrifice of tens of thousands of Ukrainian troops dying in a surreal mix of WW1, WW2, and WW3 conditions.

It's about to get so much worse for Russians soon. Since HIMARS guided missile stockpiles are dwindling there has to be an interim solution. Boeing has taken the Small Diameter Bomb, of which we have a massive stockpile leftover from Afghanistan, and placed it a top the 155mm standard unguided rocket. You shoot the rocket in the general direction of target up to 100 miles away. Double the range of the guided HIMARS rocket in use at near half the price.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-28 05:45 PM | Reply

Unguided rocket, but guided glide bomb that would normally be air dropped. Pretty smart stuff.

#24 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-28 05:46 PM | Reply

Well, would be less expensive, but to get it to the battlefield in time the Pentagon & White House have to decide to waive many cost control contract stipulations and expedite everything with minimal oversight.

#25 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-28 06:03 PM | Reply

Maybe 100.000 will die in the trenches but tens of thousands will surrender or get shot trying to escape eastward back to Russia by mercenary and Chech scum.

#26 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2022-11-28 06:36 PM | Reply

"If Zelenskyy surrendered, it would avoid a lot of misery and bloodshed."

Russian propagabda. ompletely ridiculous uelensky's surrender would save Ukrainian lives. ou forget rhat the AP reported what happened whe

ukrainians surrendered in Bucha with videos of the executions. Surrenderto Putin is suicide, Ukrainians have a much better chance of survival by fighting and anhilating Russian invsders under the courageous leadership of Zelensky. Russian trolls here are just village idiots looking for attention.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2022-11-28 06:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If Zelenskyy surrendered, it would avoid a lot of misery and bloodshed."

Russian propagabda. ompletely ridiculous uelensky's surrender would save Ukrainian lives. ou forget rhat the AP reported what happened whe

ukrainians surrendered in Bucha with videos of the executions. Surrenderto Putin is suicide, Ukrainians have a much better chance of survival by fighting and anhilating Russian invsders under the courageous leadership of Zelensky. Russian trolls here are just village idiots looking for attention.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2022-11-28 07:36 PM | Reply

If Putin was a man (which clearly he's not) he'd be on the front lines. But he's a weak little poof.

#29 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-28 09:59 PM | Reply

Bucha may have been staged by the Ukies themselves using dead "collaborators".

I'm not saying that's what happened but some sources say that.

Many things reported by the Russians about the Ukrainian's have been true when checked out.

There was no "Ghost of Kiev" Ace fighter pilot, that was a total fabrication.

The schools and hospitals bombed by the Russians were empty except for soldiers hiding inside with lethal weapons.

Not in every case though.

War crimes by both sides,was amnesty international's conclusion.

#30 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-11-28 10:21 PM | Reply

That you never seem to tire of playing the pathetically clueless apologist is, at once, amusing and bemusing. Do you have an explanation?

#31 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-11-29 04:12 AM | Reply

Do you have an explanation?

The site has a built-in signal to noise ratio and he's part of the noise.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-29 05:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thanks for clearing that up, Redial. Lol.

#33 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2022-11-29 08:53 AM | Reply

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