Understanding the roots of a cultural bigotry and promoting said bigotry are two different things. When you automatically give more deference to the specific ming mongs you referenced than to the much larger of number people on this planet who still use it in a way that has nothing to do with that, then you're engaging in the latter. Don't you believe all bigotry should be challenged, or at least questioned? Or are some forms of bigotry acceptable to you?

Understanding the roots of a cultural bigotry and promoting said bigotry are two different things. When you automatically give more deference to the specific ming mongs you referenced than to the much larger of number people on this planet who still use it in a way that has nothing to do with that, then you're engaging in the latter. Don't you believe all bigotry should be challenged, or at least questioned? Or are some forms of bigotry acceptable to you?

When Trump announced in 2016 that he was proposing a Muslim ban, I thought that was disgusting and unacceptable. One can understand why some people who witnessed 9/11 and related attacks feel that Muslims and Arabs shouldn't be allowed in North America or Europe, while at the same time thinking we should not tolerate it as a policy or as a social norm.

"Justice and liberty for all."

Except for the Asian diasporas, eh? You're saying it's okay to harass minorities with Diwali symbols on their doors and attack anyone who tries to educate society that the symbol has nothing to do with the way your tattooed friends use it.

"I want people that were no more than infants who survived the Holocaust to not have to suffer the sight of that symbol in their day-to-day lives."

Again, if you want to take that view, then how can you disagree with those who want to exclude all symbols tangentially related to the ones used and perverted by Islamic terrorists and daesh, at least until every last person who directly witnessed their acts passes away?

Or to use another example, it's as extreme as banning the letter 't' until there are no more survivors of what all those sick priests did. Or to use clownshack's standard, until we can verify that no more priests exist anywhere, which means forever.

#10- Serious question: why do you hold Proud Boys and 4chan trolls in such high esteem that you give them the power to claim and redefine a symbol over the millions of people who used and continue to use it innocuously?

"Clown Shack the average Hitler Youth member is what now 80?"

Clown and I don't get along, but I think that's a bit harsh. I don't believe he's that old.

I know this topic annoys people who want to keep the status quo, which empowers those who abuse/misuse the symbol. Tough. Those people should be called the aberrations that they are, just like "daesh", and not given the power to redefine something millions of people in this world continue to use in an unrelated manner. And if you're saying things like "never in North America or Europe", you need to check how far away you're standing from Donald Trump on the xenophobic/pandering to xenophobic ignorance scale. People like the ones in this article have always existed and will continue to exist in our multicultural society. They don't deserve to be harassed or attacked or marginalized for displaying a cultural or religious icon. The 20th Century is over. If most of us could get over 9/11 without being Islamophobic, there's really no excuse for this bigotry.

"What I have learned is that the Nazis took the sacred symbol, and reversed the direction of the pointy-things."

This is a common misconception. The sacred symbol goes in both directions in many cultures. In Hinduism, the opposite directions correspond to the "yang" and "yin" concepts in Daoist/Chinese culture, neither of which is inherently "good" or "bad".

As others have noted, the Nazis branded their official motif at a 45-degree angle with a specific color scheme. Of course, they used other versions of it, but so did many other western countries around that time, including the U.S. Finland only removed the symbol from their air force logo just a couple of years ago, in 2020, even though it never had anything to do with Nazism.