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Monday, November 28, 2022

American men appear to be stuck in a "friendship recession" -- a trend that predates the Covid-19 pandemic but that seems to have accelerated over the past several years as loneliness levels have crept up worldwide. In a 2021 survey of more than 2,000 adults in the United States, less than half of the men said they were truly satisfied with how many friends they had, while 15 percent said they had no close friends at all -- a fivefold increase since 1990.

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do somewhere besides home work...legion, elks, VFW, etc.

#1 | Posted by visiter at 2022-11-28 01:25 PM | Reply

You said "hard" heh, heh.

#2 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-28 01:33 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Well Incel, that might help explain why YOU don't have any girl friends.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-28 01:37 PM | Reply

Evolution. Women are weaker and depend more on alliances for survival.

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-28 01:50 PM | Reply

which is also why theyre evolutionary predisposed to love trashy reality tv which is all about forming and breaking alliances for survival.

Men are predisposed to love pure physical competition for dominance which is why we love sports.

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-28 01:51 PM | Reply

I for one never had a problem making them, but also eventually lose them as have moved frequently over the decades -have lived in nine different states] and have never been much of one to keep in contact.

#6 | Posted by MSgt at 2022-11-28 02:01 PM | Reply

Mrs. _visitor is the explanation for my lack of girl friends.

#7 | Posted by visitor_ at 2022-11-28 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's not too hard to make friends at the gym just go to the exercise bikes near the TV showing news guess the person's politics and when a politician you think they hate is shown to flip the screen the bird and see if they laugh.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-28 02:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Once guys get married the wife pushes their best friend out of the picture.

#9 | Posted by Scotty at 2022-11-28 02:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Slightly off point: I sometimes wonder if there is a correlation between being old and lonely and being a Trumper. A lot of Trump supporters sure seem to fall into that category.

#10 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-11-28 03:35 PM | Reply

Friendless people vote Republican.

#11 | Posted by RJSquirrel at 2022-11-28 03:57 PM | Reply

Is it really that hard? I hadn't noticed.

It may be tough for incels like Nick Fuentes and losers like the Oaf Creepers who have to join together in whiner cults to get others to associate with them.

For normal people? Meh. Not so hard.

#12 | Posted by anton at 2022-11-28 04:32 PM | Reply

Slightly off point: I sometimes wonder if there is a correlation between being old and lonely and being a Trumper. A lot of Trump supporters sure seem to fall into that category.

#10 | Posted by moder8

Trumpers are losers who can't improve their lives so they're willing to settle for making everyone else's lives worse. To them, that feels like winning.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-28 05:19 PM | Reply

I have several close men friends (as opposed to close acquaintances). Some I've known since I was a kid, others for many years.

A friend is someone who'd give you a kidney if you needed it or come ASAP wherever you needed them.

#14 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2022-11-28 05:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#5 Those theories are awfully deterministic. A little too glib. I think it's more cultural in America and the West, not innate at the hard wire level.

In other words it's a culture thing,not a genetic thing.

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-11-28 05:48 PM | Reply

#5 Those theories are awfully deterministic. A little too glib. I think it's more cultural in America and the West, not innate at the hard wire level.

In other words it's a culture thing,not a genetic thing.

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer

You mean scientific. People dont want to think about how we're just advanced animals.

There is no culture where men are physically weaker than women.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-28 06:19 PM | Reply

Get a hobby where you have to leave the house and meet people, you'll be fine.

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-28 06:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#16 How strong or weak isn't the point. The point is other cultures have strong non sexual male Bonding.

Western Culture discourages strong friendships in general for some reason. At least among many adults.

People are Atomized. Even families in many cases.

I blame society. Not innate humanity.

#18 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-11-28 09:30 PM | Reply

There is no culture where men are physically weaker than women.
#16 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Ayn Rand, welcome to the DR.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-28 09:38 PM | Reply

It's not making friends, it's keeping them. Keeping friends requires effort. Checking in, getting together, you know, stuff that narcissistic navel staters can't be bothered to do.

#20 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-28 10:11 PM | Reply

#4 and #16 physically men 'might be stronger', possibly...

but mentally? why are more women excelling in college than men?
pain threshold wise? why do women have a higher pain threshold generally than men?
longevity wise? If men are so strong, why do women live, on average, about 3-6 years longer?

If anyone is 'thinking in antequated archetypes' it appears to be you Speaksoft...

Women, it can easily be argued, are the stronger of the two sexes.
This doesn't 'bother my manhood' any, why does it seem to bother yours?

#21 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-11-29 06:52 AM | Reply

Most men are stronger than most women. It's why women are the ones that should be armed.

#22 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-29 07:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When you need conscripts for a slave army, it's always the young men. Until you run out, then it's the middle aged men, then the old men.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-29 07:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Ukrainians know all about that, it's why they're conscripting 60 year olds.

Not the act of a winning force. It's a sign of desperation. They're running out of people to fight. How many ukrainian men have fled to avoid conscription? Any figures on that?

I keep reading about Russian losses. The Ukrainian losses are like a state secret or something.

They lie about it constantly anyway just like they lie about everything else.

Both sides are lying.

#24 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-11-29 08:15 AM | Reply

I'm sure Dems have a very simple solution for every man in the country...just identify as female and have an operation. There, problem solved. Too bad if you don't like it, that's their narrative and you either follow blindly or you get canceled. Pick your poison.

#25 | Posted by humtake at 2022-11-29 11:52 AM | Reply

"Too bad if you don't like it"

To be a Conservative you must first be a Victim.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-29 12:17 PM | Reply

There is no culture where men are physically weaker than women.
#16 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Ayn Rand, welcome to the DR.

#19 | Posted by snoofy

Do you know of one?

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-29 01:23 PM | Reply

I keep reading about Russian losses. The Ukrainian losses are like a state secret or something.

They lie about it constantly anyway just like they lie about everything else.

Both sides are lying.

#24 | Posted by Effeteposer

Which side had to take over all the tv stations and shut down the internet stupid?

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-29 01:23 PM | Reply

#4 and #16 physically men 'might be stronger', possibly...

but mentally? why are more women excelling in college than men?
pain threshold wise? why do women have a higher pain threshold generally than men?
longevity wise? If men are so strong, why do women live, on average, about 3-6 years longer?

If anyone is 'thinking in antequated archetypes' it appears to be you Speaksoft...

Women, it can easily be argued, are the stronger of the two sexes.
This doesn't 'bother my manhood' any, why does it seem to bother yours?

#21 | Posted by earthmuse

Interesting that you would conclude it bothers me.

This thread is about how men dont make friends as easily as women. I pointed out that women have better social skills because they need alliances to survive due to being physically weaker. It's strange how stating simple facts like these upsets so many people.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-29 01:26 PM | Reply

Do you know of one?
#27 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

No, but your comment has an amoral Superman quality to it.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-29 01:34 PM | Reply

No, but your comment has an amoral Superman quality to it.

#30 | Posted by snoofy

I guess that's what scientific objectivity sounds like to those who don't like its conclusions.

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-29 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I just think that's the wrong explanation. Not All women are better than men at making friends.

Not all men are worse at it. Even if the trend holds it may have more to do with caring for offspring then relative physical weakness.

Men tend to be very dependent on their women.

#32 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-11-29 01:36 PM | Reply

"I guess that's what scientific objectivity sounds like to those who don't like its conclusions."

I don't see the connection.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-29 01:37 PM | Reply

I just think that's the wrong explanation. Not All women are better than men at making friends.

Not all men are worse at it. Even if the trend holds it may have more to do with caring for offspring then relative physical weakness.

Men tend to be very dependent on their women.

#32 | Posted by Effeteposer

And women tend to be very dependent on their men.

And better at making friends because they have to be. Their vocal and language parts of their brain are bigger than mens because they're meant to socialize for survival. Mens spacial awareness parts of their brain are bigger and so are their bodies because they need that for hunting for survival.

#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-29 01:49 PM | Reply

#33 He's just married to his statement and saving face at this point. It's damage control, not reasoned argument. He's in a hole and should stop digging.

#35 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-11-29 01:51 PM | Reply

I have plenty of friends. My best friend is my right hand.

#36 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-29 02:09 PM | Reply

#33 He's just married to his statement and saving face at this point. It's damage control, not reasoned argument. He's in a hole and should stop digging.

#35 | Posted by Effeteposer

I'm the only one actually making a reasoned argument.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-29 02:16 PM | Reply

It's strange how stating simple facts like these upsets so many people.

#29 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

It's not a knock on women, it's a simple biological fact. Human males, as most male mammals, are larger and stronger than the female of the species. Women certainly have their advantages, as earthmuse pointed out. Social adaptations follow. No matter how 'civilized' we've become over millennia, we're still animals. I think men have a hard time making close friends with other men because at some level we see each other as competition. I have quite a few acquaintances and people I hang out with for various reasons; a few hunting/fishing buddies, the guy I bike and kayak with in the summertime, a few guys I coached with when our kids were in Little League and youth football, etc. Aside from my wife, who truly is my best friend, I only have 2 of what I'd call really close friends.

#38 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2022-11-29 02:36 PM | Reply

#38 | Posted by El_Buscador

Careful! Using scientific facts like that is really upsetting for some people here for some reason.

It's almost as if we're all supposed to be so progressive that admitting there are biological differences in the genders that lead to behavioral differences is seen as patriarchal propaganada or something.

#39 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-29 03:36 PM | Reply

You know all y'all are friends with one another, right? Even the ones you can't stand.

#40 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2022-11-29 03:39 PM | Reply

Well, partially because a large proportion of guys read that headline and thought "hahaha I have no trouble getting so hard hahahahah"

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2022-11-29 06:51 PM | Reply

I'm the only one actually making a reasoned argument.
#37 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Still not seeing it.
But you're saying because men are stronger, they have less friends, is that correct?
Does this test out with just men? Do men who are strong have fewer friends than men who are weak?

I guess what I'm not seeing here is what in medical terms is called a "precise mechanism of action."
Just thinking about it, if you're a strong man, wouldn't all those weak men seek your friendship, as opposed to your enmity?

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-29 06:56 PM | Reply

Seriously Speaksoft...just read the text of
your #4 and #16 posts above... In both you
go out of your way to either point out the 'weakness of women' or the 'strength of men'.
It doesn't take much to conclude that it is important for you to believe in this fairy tale.

men have physical strength, sure, but in almost every other facet that I mentioned, women are the stronger sex. This notion seems to threaten you and several other conservative males I've noticed...

#43 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-11-29 09:02 PM | Reply

As to the 'friendship question', I would agree w El Buscador 'in part'. In certain societies
'machismo' (aka male competition vibes) run strong. Latino groups and Italian males come to mind. And while this can cause friction and make social interaction less likely, I wouldn't say that it is the overwhelming factor against males making friendships. It's been my experience that men bond fine when there is liquor and a shared communal activity (like sports) to rally around. No, I would say that for most men, it is a communication issue that is the main hang up. Concern on revealing how one thinks on various issues is virtually a law in several bars that I've had the pleasure of drinking in, and this certainly makes for an uneasy environment to launch a conversation in.

Nope, several of my best conversations in bars have actually begun with debates and conversations revolving around food and beer.

#44 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-11-29 09:20 PM | Reply


I don't see the connection.

#33 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Not surprised.

#45 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-11-29 11:31 PM | Reply

"Careful! Using scientific facts like that is really upsetting for some people here for some reason.

It's almost as if we're all supposed to be so progressive that admitting there are biological differences in the genders that lead to behavioral differences is seen as patriarchal propaganada or something.

#39 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2022-11-29 03:36 PM | REPLY"

Wow, Speaks and I agree on something. Men are physically stronger than women. The funny part is I thought you were a woman until this post.

Police training is very testosterone based. I used to teach a short class exclusively for female officers where we talked about how we differ in skills and abilities from male officers, and ways to use those differences to better interact with the public and handle ourselves in tactical situations. The class got mixed because someone thought it was sexist to acknowledge we were different.

#46 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-11-30 07:18 AM | Reply

I don't make new friends easily in part because of where I fit on the gender spectrum. Virtually ALL of my hobbies, interests and work experience are in male dominated areas. I don't have much in common with most women I meet. At parties I find myself gravitating to the groups of men talking about things I am actually interested in, but that makes their wives uncomfortable.

#47 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-11-30 07:36 AM | Reply

Can a DR Lib kid please define "men" for me so we can all make sure we are on the same page?

#48 | Posted by humtake at 2022-11-30 11:48 AM | Reply

Can a DR Lib kid please define "men" for me

#48 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

After you first state why you think you're one.

#49 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-30 11:58 AM | Reply

" I find myself gravitating to the groups of men talking about things I am actually interested in, but that makes their wives uncomfortable.

#47 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7 AT 2022-11-30 07:36 AM | FLAG: "

Given that I'm guessing you're kind of hot.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-30 12:51 PM | Reply

Can a DR Lib kid please define "men" for me so we can all make sure we are on the same page?

#48 | Posted by humtake

Can a DR fascist please act like people's -------- are the real threat to america so that people will overlook your insurrection attempt?

#51 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-30 01:02 PM | Reply

Wow, Speaks and I agree on something. Men are physically stronger than women. The funny part is I thought you were a woman until this post.

Police training is very testosterone based. I used to teach a short class exclusively for female officers where we talked about how we differ in skills and abilities from male officers, and ways to use those differences to better interact with the public and handle ourselves in tactical situations. The class got mixed because someone thought it was sexist to acknowledge we were different.

#46 | Posted by Miranda7

No I'm not a woman. But there are plenty of objective women who will admit men are physically stronger than women and that the different sexes have different abilities. Many woke fem warrior women will call that heresy but it's simply the facts.

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-30 01:04 PM | Reply

Police training is very testosterone based.
#46 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Yeah that's why people hate cops.
They're trained to be dicks.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 01:07 PM | Reply

"Men are physically stronger than women."

I don't disagree with this.

I am asking how that relates to making friends.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 01:08 PM | Reply

SpeakSoftly seems to suggest the stronger you are the less friendly you are. Thus men, being stronger, would be expected to have less friends.

I don't have enough info to buy into that. And it's also not accounting for something in the headline: The headline says American men.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 01:15 PM | Reply

Anyone who judged by the group is a pea wit

Here's the truth
Some women are stronger then most men
Some men are better at interpersonal relationships than women

Ex for police training have those physically stronger women train with men and have smaller men and other women train together focusing on tactics pertinent to their size

#56 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-11-30 01:19 PM | Reply

"Men are physically stronger than women."

I don't disagree with this.

I am asking how that relates to making friends.

#54 | Posted by snoofy

That's what my very first comment explained.

#57 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-30 01:31 PM | Reply

SpeakSoftly seems to suggest the stronger you are the less friendly you are.

#55 | Posted by snoofy

Close. More like - the weaker you are, the more social skills you need to survive.

#58 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-30 01:33 PM | Reply

More like - the weaker you are, the more social skills you need to survive.

Social skills or a pretend army gun. :-)

#59 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-30 01:42 PM | Reply

Close. More like - the weaker you are, the more social skills you need to survive.
#58 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Yeah I don't agree with this at all.

But if you have data, I am willing to be convinced you are right and I am wrong.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 01:47 PM | Reply

Yeah I don't agree with this at all.

But if you have data, I am willing to be convinced you are right and I am wrong.

#60 | Posted by snoofy

You need data that stronger animals can survive on their own better than weaker animals?

Do you need data that water is wet too?

#61 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-30 01:50 PM | Reply

"You need data that stronger animals can survive on their own better than weaker animals?"

Put up or shut up.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 01:52 PM | Reply

Honestly you sound like a Social Darwinist.

#63 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 01:52 PM | Reply

Honestly you sound like a Social Darwinist.

#63 | Posted by snoofy

Honestly you sound like you'd burn darwin at the stake.

#64 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-30 02:09 PM | Reply

I don't know what that is supposed to mean.

I work in biotech; Darwin sort of made that possible.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 02:14 PM | Reply

SpeakSoftly seems to suggest the stronger you are the less friendly you are.
#55 snoofy

Not at all.

Speaks is suggesting, in the aggregate lacking in physical and mental, ability and strength must be made up in social skills to survive or find reproductive success.

Logically it does NOT mean being strong means you are less friendly. But does imply that finding a strong friendly person is more likely honest in their friendliness, than a weak "friendly" person.

Women know this in a men, intuitively.

#66 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-11-30 02:17 PM | Reply

"Logically"

I didn't ask for logic.
I asked for data.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 02:21 PM | Reply

It's pretty simple, really: Be excellent to each other.

#68 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-30 02:41 PM | Reply

I don't know what that is supposed to mean.

I work in biotech; Darwin sort of made that possible.

#65 | Posted by snoofy

Then it's pretty funny that you're having such a strong negative reaction to the acknowledgement of evolutionary difference between the sexes.

#69 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-30 05:48 PM | Reply

Ever notice how men can laugh at footage of others guys getting injured but if the same thing happens to a woman it's not funny?

#70 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-30 06:11 PM | Reply

Ever notice how men can laugh at footage of others guys getting injured but if the same thing happens to a woman it's not funny?

#70 | Posted by Tor

That's not just men. Women laugh at guys getting hurt too. Guys getting hurt = funny, because they are stronger and more likely to be ok.

#71 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-30 06:19 PM | Reply

That's my guess too.

I think guys often have three settings when it comes to other guys:

friend, can work with, wish I could kill/kill/indifferent.

I think its different when we're younger too.

#72 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-30 06:30 PM | Reply

#71 Watching stupid people get hurt is funny, and that usually means guys. IQs of guys drop when in groups. If guys say the equivalent of 'watch this', dial 911. This is likely the main reason women out live men.

#73 | Posted by bored at 2022-11-30 06:54 PM | Reply

#69 I don't completely disagree with your women make friends better than men because they are weaker, but that doesn't really make sense from a natural selection point of view.

I think the gender social skill difference is more likely because we are all here due to a long chain of births AND child rearing. Births require both genders involvement, although not necessarily very much from the male. Child rearing requires a lot of care, and is much easier and likely more successful with helpers. Convincing others (male or female) to help raise your kid requires social skills and those skills will be naturally selected for, based on survival of the children.

This concludes my TED talk.

#74 | Posted by bored at 2022-11-30 07:00 PM | Reply

I have tons of drinking buddies. I don't drink as much these days, so I don't see them as much.

I have 5 friends that I trust completely. 2 of the 5 are childhood friends.

Plus the wife, she's my best friend (que corny background music). We also grew up together.

I don't want any more friends than that. I'm too busy.

Besides, who needs lots of friends when I have you all! Lol.

#75 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-30 07:45 PM | Reply

Then it's pretty funny that you're having such a strong negative reaction to the acknowledgement of evolutionary difference between the sexes.
#69 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Asking for evidence is not a strong negative reaction.
In this case it's the opposite of that. It indicates that you have stimulated my intellectual curiosity.

Feel free to provide real-life examples of your choosing to substantiate your assertion, if that's how you roll.
I might not even see how what you assert is testable, but that doesn't mean it might not be real.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 08:39 PM | Reply

Feel free to provide real-life examples of your choosing to substantiate your assertion, if that's how you roll.
I might not even see how what you assert is testable, but that doesn't mean it might not be real.

#76 | Posted by snoofy

Go on a dating app and list your height as 6'4". Then make a duplicate profile and list your height as 5' 4". You'll get more interest on the taller profile because women are drawn to bigger men, knowing instinctively (knowledge handed down via evolution) that bigger animals can protect themselves, and by implication, their offspring.

#77 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-11-30 08:49 PM | Reply

You'll get more interest on the taller profile because women are drawn to bigger men, knowing instinctively (knowledge handed down via evolution) that bigger animals can protect themselves, and by implication, their offspring.

I'm not going to dispute that, but I don't see how it can be safely interpreted to support your conclusion.

Maybe guys who are 6'4" have bigger dicks and that's why they're more sought after.

You can't just point at a swarm of facts and say they make something true.

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 08:57 PM | Reply

"knowing instinctively (knowledge handed down via evolution) that bigger animals can protect themselves, and by implication, their offspring."

This is a whole lot to infer when by dint of nature men are generally bigger than women.

Do you think men being bigger than women explains why men have a hard time making friends? Again, based on your reasoning, one would think a big man would be sought after by countless females. And all females would attract some smaller males hoping for an orbital collision with one of the many circling females. That big man is going to have a lot of friends.

You seem to think society ought to run in such a way that men have less friends, just by nature of what it means to be male and female. That's your belief.

But I don't think it makes any more sense than my version, where the big man is the natural life of the party.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-11-30 09:09 PM | Reply

My strongest friendships have developed naturally. Friendship to me is teamwork which accomplishes our objectives for the better of the group, or an individual. One for all and all for one type stuff. Lamenting and celebrating each friends contribution to whatever is the task is key to friendship. Laughing and joking at each other, peer reviewing what we did and how to do it better. Trust, respect, and not being afraid to be vulnerable or unknowing.

#80 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-30 10:39 PM | Reply

"Maybe guys who are 6'4" have bigger dicks and that's why they're more sought after."

It's not all good.

Some times having a-------- just means your escort yells "I said no blacks" you reply "I said full set of teeth" and before the day is over you can't visit Las Vegas anymore.

#81 | Posted by Tor at 2022-11-30 11:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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