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Tuesday, November 29, 2022

Twitter boss attacks iPhone maker and CEO Tim Cook over advertising and censorship

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F you Moron Lusk.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-29 10:29 AM | Reply

Apple was one of Twitter's largest advertisers. A Bloomberg TV report this morning mentioned that Apple pays (paid?) Twitter $100 million per year for ads on the Twitter platform, and that Twitter had a team specifically empowered to tend to Apples' needs in this regard.

Mr Musk is trying to frame this spat in the terms of ~Apple supporting free speech~ but the reality is more along the lines that Apple may not want to support hate speech and intentional misinformation.

Twitter rolls back COVID misinformation policy
www.reuters.com

...Twitter Inc has rolled back a policy that was aimed at tackling misinformation related to COVID-19 on the social media platform, lending itself to the risk of a potential surge in false claims even as cases rise in China and some parts of the world.

The move also comes amid concerns of Twitter's ability to fight misinformation after it let go about half of its staff, including those involved in content moderation, under new boss Elon Musk.

"Effective November 23, 2022, Twitter is no longer enforcing the COVID-19 misleading information policy," according to an update on its blog page. ...



So, no matter how mush Mr Musk tries to frame this as a free speech issue, it is more than likely to be something else, and probably the result of a problem that Mr Musk himself caused and is trying to blame someone else for.


#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 11:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Musk is pretending to be unaware that Apple takes a 30% cut from any payments via apps distributed via the iOS App Store. Cuts into his $8/mon subscription model plans

#3 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2022-11-29 11:58 AM | Reply

@#3

Yeah. That 30% cut by Apple has been a sore point for Apple across many iOS App Store vendors.

Google reduced their cut from 30% to 15% last year.

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 12:14 PM | Reply

Musk is pretending to be unaware that Apple takes a 30% cut from any payments via apps distributed via the iOS App Store. Cuts into his $8/mon subscription model plans

No he wasn't.
apps.apple.com

He was bringing attention to it.

Yeah. That 30% cut by Apple has been a sore point for Apple across many iOS App Store vendors.

Are you claiming taxation costs innovation?

Google reduced their cut from 30% to 15% last year.

Because they were losing. Android development isn't for the faint of heart.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-11-29 11:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

So, no matter how mush Mr Musk tries to frame this as a free speech issue, it is more than likely to be something else, and probably the result of a problem that Mr Musk himself caused and is trying to blame someone else for.

Oh brother, you do drone on.

#6 | Posted by oneironaut at 2022-11-29 11:51 PM | Reply

Apple, make it so.

#7 | Posted by Jaspar at 2022-11-30 12:57 AM | Reply

@#6 ... Oh brother, you do drone on. ...

Do tell...

Your comment seems to agree with what I posted.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-30 01:05 AM | Reply

@#7 ... Apple, make it so. ...

Make what so?

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-30 01:07 AM | Reply

Twitter had a team specifically empowered to tend to Apples' needs in this regard.

With the exodus of talent from Twittler I can understand why Apple is unwilling to fund a platform that doesn't have the resources they require to ensure their needs are met.

You wouldn't keep taking your car to a mechanic who could not service it would you?

result of a problem that Mr Musk himself caused and is trying to blame someone else for.

He keeps exposing himself as a fraud every single day.

#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-11-30 07:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Because they were losing. Android development isn't for the faint of heart.

#5 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2022-11-29 11:50 PM | REPLY | FLAG

It's easier than Apple. Source: I have developed complex multiplatform mobile apps published on Apple and Google play.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-30 07:28 AM | Reply

With the exodus of talent from Twittler I can understand why Apple is unwilling to fund a platform that doesn't have the resources they require to ensure their needs are met.

#10 | POSTED BY NIXON AT 2022-11-30 07:21 AM | FLAG:

Also -------- lol. Apple's App Store is supposed to be better curated than Google's, but in practice it remains easily scammed. You can get terrible apps in (and great apps rejected because the reviewer can't understand the dev notes)m and pad with fake ratings and turn it into a $5+ million a year business. Apple gets their 30% so there's no incentive to fix it. They will promote an app as highly rated and show it at something high like 4.5 out of 5 stars and tens of thousands of ratings. When you dig into the reviews, there will be less than thousand and 90% 1 star. That part doesn't get promoted by design.

Elon Musk is beefing with Apple because they keep dabbling in making an EV and it's been escalating for at least 6 months.

Also, Elon lies a lot. So far the only person claiming Apple wants to remove it is Elon.

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-30 07:50 AM | Reply

He keeps exposing himself as a fraud every single day.

#10 | Posted by Nixon

He may not understand how normal people and organizations function. He doesn't like taxation because benefiting all of society or a platform is beyond his understanding. Or he is just a giant whiny crybaby of an -----. Okay so even with his disability, it seems he is the later. He doesn't understand how NORMAL organizations function because he has got away being a giant ----- for far too long with an occasional slap on the hand. I think he thought a lot more people out there were MAGAts, don't get me wrong there are a lot of them but far fewer than the majority. OTHER companies will cater to the majority.

#13 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-11-30 09:57 AM | Reply

#12 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Where do you get this information about the Apple platform? Just curious because I have owned an Apple device for several years now and we (my team) have published niche and corporate apps. It really hasn't fit my experiences. What you are describing sounds more like my experiences with Google Play.

#14 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-11-30 10:02 AM | Reply

Where do you get this information about the Apple platform? Just curious because I have owned an Apple device for several years now and we (my team) have published niche and corporate apps. It really hasn't fit my experiences. What you are describing sounds more like my experiences with Google Play.

#14 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2022-11-30 10:02 AM | FLAG:

We've talked about it before. I'm 5 years in it and on the AR side. My experiences improved over time, mostly revolving around learning the nuances of writing the documents for the app approval reviewers. I'm not trying to cheat the system though.

If you want to scam the reviewers I'm sure if you just asked your devs they could start cranking out ways to do it like they were cheating with racecars. Hidden, unmentioned features, scam ads that won't activate until a remote switch post publishing, etc. Investigations on scams in the app store have been ongoing for a few years now. WaPo articles about it. Data scientists diving into specific cases on Twitter. etc.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-30 11:06 AM | Reply

It's definitely a lower % of scams than Google Play, but it's a pretty easily circumvented system when you try.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-30 11:07 AM | Reply

Apple can take anything they want out of theur store, that is their business and I don't care and especially if Elon Musk is offended. However their cooperayion with the hinese government because of protests against Xi because, apparently, they need the production of their products to continue and Apple is willing to cooperate with the chinese govrtnment in the suppression of news about the huge protests against Xi. It makes to be disturbing and even makes me question if I even want to own an iPhone.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2022-12-01 05:42 AM | Reply

Elon & Cook took a walk in the park and Cook assured everybody that Apple never considered removing Twitter.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-12-01 08:24 AM | Reply

So it was just a misunderstanding/Elon spewing nonsense again after all.

#19 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2022-12-01 12:49 PM | Reply

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