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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Tuesday, November 29, 2022

Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes was convicted Tuesday of seditious conspiracy for a violent plot to overturn Democrat Joe Biden's presidential win...

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The quick and the dead.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-29 05:37 PM | Reply

But, but, no one was charged with seditious conspiracy so how could Jan 6 be an insurrection?

Oh wait.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2022-11-29 05:40 PM | Reply

While in prison, Rhodes will have to keep an eye out for patriots. Hahahahaha!

#3 | Posted by bored at 2022-11-29 05:41 PM | Reply

Typical tourist visit!

#4 | Posted by anton at 2022-11-29 05:45 PM | Reply

More from the cited article...

...Rhodes and a co-defendant who was also convicted of seditious conspiracy are the first people in nearly three decades to be found guilty of the rarely used Civil War-era charge at trial. ...


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 05:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Twenty years sounds about right.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2022-11-29 06:02 PM | Reply

Rhodes, who wears an eye patch after accidentally shooting himself in the face...

A true leader of men.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-29 06:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

DOJ has a .25% conviction rate on Sedition charges. Yawn.

#8 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2022-11-29 06:29 PM | Reply

I was a tourist in Washington DC and all I got was the prison sentence for being a wingnut terrorist.

#9 | Posted by kudzu at 2022-11-29 06:32 PM | Reply

Luftwaffles is all weepy today. Lo siento, pendejo.

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-29 06:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

@#8 ... DOJ has a .25% conviction rate on Sedition charges. Yawn. ...

That makes the convictions they do make for sedition charges (like this one) all the more significant, considering how difficult your comment implies it is to convict on sedition charges.


#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 06:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ridiculous! Not a single one of them had a bazooka, more than 8lbs of C4, a full auto, belt fed machine gun or radiological weapons! Witch hunt and clear weaponization of the DoJ!

-Jeffy and friends

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2022-11-29 06:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

@#8

Earlier today I wrote...

"...The outcome of the trial will be interesting. Going into it, I had read that proving this would be difficult.... "

drudge.com


No wonder this is being called a major win for the DoJ, and the rule of law in the Country..

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 06:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#10 ... Lo siento, pendejo. ...

:)

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 06:44 PM | Reply

DOJ has a .25% conviction rate on Sedition charges. Yawn.

#8 | Posted by Bluewaffles

zatknis' pridurok, ty plokhoye opravdaniye dlya fal'shivogo russkogo

#15 | Posted by billy_boy at 2022-11-29 06:50 PM | Reply

#7 | Posted by REDIAL

Definitely the right man for the job.

#16 | Posted by Angrydad at 2022-11-29 07:15 PM | Reply

Did any of y'all bother reading that 3 out of the four walked on the charges?

#17 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2022-11-29 07:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#17

So that's where you got the 0.25%.

LOL

#18 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-29 07:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Republican math?

#19 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-29 07:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Republican math?

Order of magnitude here, order of magnitude there... it all evens out in the end.

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-29 07:24 PM | Reply

@#17 ... Did any of y'all bother reading that 3 out of the four walked on the charges? ...

Yup. I did. And yer point is?

I also read that the Oath Keepers founder was convicted.

The DoJ got the founder/leader of the Oath Keepers. The one doing the planning.

As much as your alias tries to reduce the significance of this conviction, I gotta say, the founder of the Oath Keepers will not have an iron deficiency.

About Elmer Stewart Rhodes
www.splcenter.org

...The core idea of Elmer Stewart Rhodes' group, the Oath Keepers, is that its members vow to support the oaths they took on joining law enforcement or the military to defend the Constitution forever and the group's own list of 10 "Orders We Will Not Obey." The list is a compendium of perceived, unrealized threats from the government " orders, for instance, to force Americans into concentration camps, confiscate their guns or cooperate with foreign troops in the United States.

These supposed threats are, in fact, part of the central conspiracy theory advocated by the antigovernment movement of which the Oath Keepers is a part " thebaseless claim that the federal government plans to impose martial law, seize Americans' weapons, force those who resist into concentration camps and, ultimately, push the country into a one-world socialistic government known as the "New World Order." In 2013, the groupannounced the planned formation of "Citizen Preservation" militiasmeant to defend Americans against the New World Order.

With Rhodes at the helm, the group continued to promote their own version of vigilante justice by providing voluntary and sometimes illegal security during tense situations in America, after a terrorist attack and during the protests in Ferguson, Missouri, and by taking part in multiple standoffs against the government.Rhodes had his group patrol the polls in an activity they called Operation Sabot during the 2016 presidential election. Rhodes and Oath Keepers supported Donald Trump during his presidency.

During this time, Rhodes became increasingly conspiratorial, adopting and peddling a number of fringe right-wing conspiracy theories with the assistance of his friend Alex Jones. These ideas included making false claims that alarge illegal voting operation was coordinated ahead of the 2016 general election and that immigrants from Central and South America were evidence of a war on the "the West to flood us with Third World people,"and mobilizing his followers to take part in the January 2021 insurrection on the U.S. Capitol in an effort to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election....



#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 07:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So that's where you got the 0.25%.

LOL

#18 | POSTED BY HORSTNGRABEN

And these idiots think they should be listened to when deciding things of national importance ...

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2022-11-29 07:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Order of magnitude here, order of magnitude there... it all evens out in the end.

#20 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Yeah, I'm their mind they're 300% of the population.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2022-11-29 07:31 PM | Reply

"Oath Keepers are only 25% seditious!"

/MAGAt Logic

#24 | Posted by anton at 2022-11-29 07:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oath Keepers are only 25% seditious!

Actually 40% since it was 2 out of 5.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-29 07:46 PM | Reply

MAGAt logic meet MAGAt arithmetic.

#26 | Posted by anton at 2022-11-29 07:56 PM | Reply

Republican Mob Boss Don is also guilty of knowingly leading and then covering up the very same seditious conspiracy, as the testimony under oath by dozens of his aides shows.

Courts all over the country are ruling against the few aides and accomplishes who had refused to testify and are now forcing them to do so in DOJ cases and state cases.

The Committee Hearings were just the floor show; these Court cases are the main attraction, and mostly we already know what the testimony will be... damning for Trumpty Dumpty.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-29 08:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

accomplishes? lmao

accomplices

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-29 08:07 PM | Reply

@#27 ...Republican Mob Boss Don is also guilty of knowingly leading and then covering up the very same seditious conspiracy, as the testimony under oath by dozens of his aides shows. ...

My guess is that the lawyers of fmr Pres Trump are now running up their billings trying to figure out two things:

1) how to distance fmr Pres Trump from this jury decision

-and-

2) what sand they can kick up to try to say fmr Pres Trump's actions are totally different.


Go out to the lobby and get yer popcorn. Maybe a couple of bags....

This is the prelude, not the coda.





#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 08:11 PM | Reply

DOJ has a .25% conviction rate on Sedition charges. Yawn.

Vernon's calculator.

2 out of 5 were convicted of the specific charge of Sedition, Rhodes and Meggs. Watkins, Harrelson, and Caldwell were guily of obstructing and official proceeding and other charges.

That is 2/5=0.4, 0.4 *100= 40%.

That's 40%, not 0.25%.

It's also an incredibly difficult charge to get a conviction on. Historically we don't see that high a conviction rate for Sedition. That makes the message of this conviction exceedingly strong and clear.

So, with respect to your comment?

{Yawn}.

#30 | Posted by YAV at 2022-11-29 08:36 PM | Reply

@#30 ... t's also an incredibly difficult charge to get a conviction on. ...

Yup.

That is why I am of the opinion that this conviction is quite significant.

As mentioned in #8 ... ... DOJ has a .25% conviction rate on Sedition charges. ...

So this conviction is a major win for the Constitution.


#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 08:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Did any of y'all bother reading that 3 out of the four walked on the charges?

#17 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Yo! Nimrod! Shut off Faux News and look at CNN.
They have the full list of the charges for everyone
indicted. NO ONE got off 'Scott Free'...

#32 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-11-29 08:43 PM | Reply

DOJ has a .25% conviction rate on Sedition charges. Yawn.

Vernon's calculator.

2 out of 5 were convicted of the specific charge of Sedition, Rhodes and Meggs. Watkins, Harrelson, and Caldwell were guily of obstructing and official proceeding and other charges.

That is 2/5=0.4, 0.4 *100= 40%.

That's 40%, not 0.25%.

It's also an incredibly difficult charge to get a conviction on. Historically we don't see that high a conviction rate for Sedition. That makes the message of this conviction exceedingly strong and clear.

So, with respect to your comment?

{Yawn}.

"""""

The Trumper/Ruskie troll crowd ain't good at math.

#33 | Posted by a_monson at 2022-11-29 08:45 PM | Reply

The 0.25% number is also bogus for the overall conviction rate for seditious conspiracy for the DOJ.

#34 | Posted by YAV at 2022-11-29 09:05 PM | Reply

Jesus you ------- really couldn't figure out what I meant by .25%. The last number I had saw (granted it was a while back) was around 800 people were brought up on charges for the stupid things they did that day. So far 2 have been "convicted" of sedition. 2 out of 800 is .25%.

#35 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2022-11-29 09:40 PM | Reply

800 people were brought up on charges for the stupid things they did that day. So far 2 have been "convicted" of sedition. 2 out of 800 is .25%.

Wow. You are even stupider than I thought.

#36 | Posted by REDIAL at 2022-11-29 09:47 PM | Reply

Rhodes is a dangerous person who will certainly continue his seditious views and behavior. But at least he'll be doing it from a prison cell. Hopefully they don't give him any sort of mouthpiece whatsoever, outside of the lawyer that he is entitled to.

On a side note, I'm sure his ex and kids are relieved.

#37 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-29 09:49 PM | Reply

Please explain to me that comment ... 2*100/800 = .25%. According to the bill of the commenters here they were all seditionists etc. so again ... DOJ is batting .25% on Sedition.

#38 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2022-11-29 09:50 PM | Reply

@#35 ... Jesus you ------- really couldn't figure out what I meant by .25%. ...

Not really. I was just going by the content of your post. So your current seems to admit that your post failed in what it intended to convey.

That's fine.

Let's go on...

... The last number I had saw (granted it was a while back) was around 800 people were brought up on charges for the stupid things they did that day. So far 2 have been "convicted" of sedition. 2 out of 800 is .25%. ...

So, your current admit that it erred in the numbers it provided. Thanks for the followup.

Good to know.


Really, thx.

#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-29 09:52 PM | Reply

"So far 2 have been "convicted""

IOW, your denominator never changes and never will. Yesterday, your claim could've been 0.0%.

Your "percentage" has nowhere to go but up.

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-11-29 09:56 PM | Reply

And Danville I highly doubt it goes above 1%.

#41 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2022-11-29 09:57 PM | Reply

"DOJ is batting .25% on Sedition."

Only if you assume all 800 committed sedition, and that was the charge the DOJ was aiming for.

But you don't believe either, do you?

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-11-29 09:57 PM | Reply

" I highly doubt it goes above 1%."

Again, you're assuming everyone committed and was charged with sedition. Or is "pretending" a better word?

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-11-29 09:58 PM | Reply

DANFORTH, you fully know damn well if the DOJ had the balls to charge people with that they would. But they can't because they know they won't get a conviction. That said ... moving forward everyone on here who barks like a seal about J6 needs to acknowledge that 99.75% of the people who went in were not seditionists.

#44 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2022-11-29 10:00 PM | Reply

"you fully know damn well if the DOJ had the balls to charge people with that they would."

I'm not pretending 800 committed sedition. Why are you?

"everyone on here who barks like a seal about J6 needs to acknowledge that 99.75% of the people who went in were not seditionists."

Just willing participants. But now you're pretending the trials are over. Again, your "number" has nowhere to go but down.

And let's not forget the seditious folks who were already INSIDE the Capitol when Trump's speech on the Ellipse began.

#45 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-11-29 10:05 PM | Reply

Jesus you ------- really couldn't figure out what I meant by .25%.

I figured you meant what you posted in #17 (which you still screwed up), like I said in #18. But I was just picking on you.

Then you respond the gem in #35. Back when I could tell the difference between an actual Republican and a satirical Republican, I would have assumed you were some liberal's sockpuppet.

OK, 2 out of 800 is 0.25%. But the rest is so ridiculous its not even worth disputing. Thanks for the laugh though, whether you meant to or not. LOL.

#46 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-29 10:05 PM | Reply

"I highly doubt it goes above 1%."

Thanks for admitting your claim has a real chance of being off by 300%.

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2022-11-29 10:10 PM | Reply

"@#8 ... DOJ has a .25% conviction rate on Sedition charges. Yawn. ..."

Some have pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy without a trial:

Third Oath Keepers defendant pleads guilty to sedition in Capitol riot case

A North Carolina member of the Oath Keepers pleaded guilty on Wednesday to seditious conspiracy and obstruction of an official proceeding in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

www.nbcnews.com

Proud Boys member pleads guilty to seditious conspiracy for U.S. Capitol attack

A member of the far-right Proud Boys pleaded guilty on Thursday to a charge of seditious conspiracy over his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, making him the first member of the group to do so.

www.reuters.com

#48 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-11-29 11:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The guy shows up to give a speech wearing an eyepatch, fingerless gloves, and airsoft elbow pads, with a grand plan of bringing in his reinforcements on a 15mph golf cart.

------- funny even though we should just shoot him and call it a day.

#49 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-11-30 07:25 AM | Reply

Did any of y'all bother reading that 3 out of the four walked on the charges?

#17 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2022-11-29 07:19 PM | Reply | Flag:

| Funny: 1

#17

So that's where you got the 0.25%.

LOL

#18 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-29 07:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

| Newsworthy 1

Republican math?

#19 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-29 07:21 PM | Reply | Flag:

Someone borrowed Vernon's calculator.

#50 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-11-30 07:31 AM | Reply

When is the public execution?

#51 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2022-11-30 08:02 AM | Reply

It is true that a significant number of the MAGAts involved in the January 6 insurrection were not insurrectionists or seditionists. Many of them were just dismally stupid and petty criminals by comparison.

#52 | Posted by anton at 2022-11-30 11:00 AM | Reply

Once again, the right wingers on this site,
take the subject, make it all about the highest
offense, act like everyone else got off 'Scott Free',
and ignore the facts. Even when I pointed them to
the full indictment list on CNN, they still pretend
it never happened.

#53 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-11-30 11:32 AM | Reply

#53

It's all "liberal media spin" designed to make these Christian Nationalist superpatriots look bad.

#54 | Posted by anton at 2022-11-30 12:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

99.75% of the people who went in were not seditionists.

#44 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

And they are not charged as such. So what exactly is your point?

There is one I person I really wish to see successfully charged with seditious conspiracy. I bet that would really make your day too!

And I noticed (as did some others) you apparently failed to notice all the guilty pleas to sedition in your calculations.

They were also successfully convicted by the DOJ even though they gave up because they knew they were guilty.

Anyway they certainly were not peaceful protesters. Or tourists.

And many were armed in spite of republican lies.

As a Marine who agreed to lay down his life for his country I call them criminals and traitors to that same country. Especially if they purposely crossed police barriers to enter the US Capitol illegally.

Just curious. What has Fixed News told YOU to call them now?

#55 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-30 12:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

All I've seen Since that day occurred was that they were seditionists ... Again, we only have a handful of them. If you're trying to allude that I was somehow happy with what occurred that day, I certainly wasn't happy about it. Furthermore ... I don't watch Fox News (nor any cable news for that matter) Donner. If you'd like to know how I get my news I'll tell you, I read 30-50 articles a day from varying sources right, left, and non-partisan.

#56 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2022-11-30 12:45 PM | Reply

What's up with that eye patch?

I would have convicted him on that alone.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-11-30 12:54 PM | Reply

{yawn}

#58 | Posted by YAV at 2022-11-30 12:54 PM | Reply

... The last number I had saw ... BLEWWAFFLES

God damn you're stupid.

#59 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2022-11-30 01:52 PM | Reply

DunceWaffle should have used the entire US population in his denominator to make his 'facts' even more TrumpHumpian.

#60 | Posted by zarnon at 2022-11-30 01:53 PM | Reply

"Again, we only have a handful of them. "

That we are able to convict.

They were there to support and lead the mob. Which was incited and encouraged by the leaders of the sedition.

Remember when there was NO armed sedition or insurrection at all?? I do.

It was just a bunch of peaceful protest of tourists with "legitimate political grievances". Many maga nuts are still clinging to that lie.

Did your "sources" tell you that too? Have they changed their opinions yet?

So now there are only a "handful" of seditionists. How many do you think are necessary to disrupt the peaceful transfers of power? Just a handful apparently. And many hundreds with weapons trying to get past checkpoints help and stashes of more weapons waiting over the river in VA to be used if the President gave the word.

Did your "sources" tell you any of that too?

Just because there are only a handful of convictions (so far) and it wasn't successful doesn't diminish its severity at all.

#61 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-11-30 01:59 PM | Reply

Luftwaffles is a crappy liar.

#62 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-11-30 02:23 PM | Reply

What's up with that eye patch?

I would have convicted him on that alone.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger

He shot his eye out after he mishandled his firearm and it accidentally discharged. He was serving as a firearms instructor at the time.

#63 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-30 03:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

In fairness to the one-eyed Oaf Creeper, Yale Law School didn't offer a course in basic gun safety while he was attending.

#64 | Posted by anton at 2022-11-30 03:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Couldn't have happened to a nicer treasonous, traitorous, poor firearms safety record having, dirtbag.

#65 | Posted by ABH at 2022-12-01 08:35 AM | Reply

"He shot his eye out ... "

Always wondered where Ralphie ended up.

Changed his name to Elmer and became a domestic terrorist.

Let that be a lesson to you kids.

Listen to your dad or you might shoot your eye out and end up in prison after a failed attempt at an insurrection!

#66 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-12-01 09:58 AM | Reply

All I've seen Since that day occurred was that they were seditionists ... Again, we only have a handful of them. If you're trying to allude that I was somehow happy with what occurred that day, I certainly wasn't happy about it.

#56 | Posted by Bluewaffles

That's only because they failed. You'd have no problem with the republicans' fascist coup attempt if it resulted in trump staying in office.

#67 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-12-01 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I certainly wasn't happy about it."

You weren't happy when they gunned down Ashli Babbitt?

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-01 12:47 PM | Reply

It's seriously sad that Ashli lost her life in devotion to a cause so stupid.
If she were alive today she might be joining Elmer in prison.
So, there's that.

#69 | Posted by anton at 2022-12-01 12:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I certainly wasn't happy about it."

You weren't happy when they gunned down Ashli Babbitt?
#68 | Posted by snoofy

I was sad she was the only terrorist they killed. If they'd have been muslim men with long beards rushing the capitol to thwart democracy there would have been dead bodies everywhere. But white terrorists waving confederate flags get special protection for some reason.

#70 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-12-01 01:08 PM | Reply

"I was sad she was the only terrorist they killed. If they'd have been muslim men with long beards rushing the capitol to thwart democracy there would have been dead bodies everywhere. But white terrorists waving confederate flags get special protection for some reason."

Weren't you one of those throwing a temper tantrum when the federal govern deployed DHS officers to Portland in order to protect federal property there from terrorists?

Or am I mistaken?

#71 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-12-01 03:24 PM | Reply

Rhodes stated that he did what he did because he "felt" that the elections were unconstitutional.

Cool.

I see that as being hardly different from engaging in violence in an effort to achieve something that individuals know (or should know) is unconstitutional.

In fact I don't see it being different at all. What he was supporting was unconstitutional. At least according to the people whose job it is to understand the constitution.

#72 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-12-01 03:30 PM | Reply

Weren't you one of those throwing a temper tantrum when the federal govern deployed DHS officers to Portland in order to protect federal property there from terrorists?

Or am I mistaken?

#71 | Posted by madbomber

YOu are mistaken.

But it appears your goal is to equate federal property with democracy. An attack to overthrow democracy is in a different league than damage to federal property.

#73 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-12-01 03:44 PM | Reply

Let's not forgot that Donald Trump supports pardoning seditious terrorists.

"we will treat those people from Jan. 6 fairly...And if it requires pardons we will give them pardons."

#74 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2022-12-01 05:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"But it appears your goal is to equate federal property with democracy. An attack to overthrow democracy is in a different league than damage to federal property."

I'm not sure what you mean by democracy, but I will tell you that constitutional government was never at risk. Because of people like me.

You're welcome.

#75 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-12-02 01:26 AM | Reply

And I find it interesting that the flags being flown by the rioters in Portland were some of the same we've seen flying from Russian tanks invading Ukraine, or at anti-western rallies in Russia where the masses were calling on Putin to drop nukes on the west.

#76 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-12-02 01:27 AM | Reply

"I'm not sure what you mean by democracy, but I will tell you that constitutional government was never at risk."

Eastman Memo provided a Constitutional pathway for Trump to remain in power.

That's why your comment is more of a dodge than a claim.

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-02 01:30 AM | Reply

Republicans are suing for the right to ignore the voters. That too would be Constitutional, if the 6-3 Republican Supreme Court says so.

There was a political party that took over in Germany in 1933, via legal means.

Hiding behind the law is a great way to hide your ulterior motives.

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-02 01:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"the flags"

Huh?

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-02 01:33 AM | Reply

- Because of people like me.

Delta pilots?

#80 | Posted by Corky at 2022-12-02 01:44 AM | Reply

And I find it interesting that the flags being flown by the rioters in Portland were some of the same we've seen flying from Russian tanks invading Ukraine, or at anti-western rallies in Russia where the masses were calling on Putin to drop nukes on the west.

#76 | Posted by madbomber

Link?

You sure seem to know a lot about the rioters in portland. It's almost as if the media you consume has flooded you with propaganda about portland in order to get you to overlook your party's literal fascist coup attempt.

#81 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-12-02 12:50 PM | Reply

"Eastman Memo provided a Constitutional pathway for Trump to remain in power."

Then constitutional government was never at risk. By your own admission.

"There was a political party that took over in Germany in 1933, via legal means."

And with the overwhelming support of the German people.

"Delta pilots?"

You flatter me. Only because Delta is the best domestic airline.

#82 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-12-02 02:06 PM | Reply

Link?

www.bing.com

www.bing.com

www.bing.com

www.bing.com

It's probably just all photoshopped though, right?

"You sure seem to know a lot about the rioters in portland. It's almost as if the media you consume has flooded you with propaganda about portland in order to get you to overlook your party's literal fascist coup attempt."

If you look at 1/6, the flags being flown were US flags. If you look at Portland, the flags being flown were those of the people who nine months ago invaded Ukraine.

#83 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-12-02 02:10 PM | Reply

If you look at 1/6, the flags being flown were US flags. If you look at Portland, the flags being flown were those of the people who nine months ago invaded Ukraine.

#83 | Posted by madbomber

^thinks TRUMP flags and CONFEDERATE flags are THE US FLAG.

#84 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-12-02 02:13 PM | Reply

"There was a political party that took over in Germany in 1933, via legal means."
And with the overwhelming support of the German people.
#82 | Posted by madbomber

"The cardinal error of the Germans who opposed Nazism was their failure to unite against it. At the crest of their popular strength, in July 1932, the National Socialists had attained but 37 percent of the vote. But the 63 percent of the German people who expressed their opposition to Hitler were much too divided and shortsighted to combine against a common danger which they must have known would overwhelm them unless they united, however temporarily, to stamp it out."
-- William Shirer

#85 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2022-12-02 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

MAGAbomber was especially impressed with this insurrectionist's attire.

am21.mediaite.com

#86 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2022-12-02 02:17 PM | Reply

"It's probably just all photoshopped though, right?"

Probably not, but why be so vague about it?

Here's what you said:
"the flags being flown by the rioters in Portland were some of the same we've seen flying from Russian tanks invading Ukraine, or at anti-western rallies in Russia where the masses were calling on Putin to drop nukes on the west."

Here's what a sensible person would say:
Soviet flag.

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-02 03:04 PM | Reply

"If you look at 1/6, the flags being flown were US flags."

Look harder.

Trump flag is not a US flag.
Confederate flag is not a US flag.
Thin Blue Line flag is not a US flag.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-02 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-... had attained but 37 percent of the vote. But the 63 percent of the German people who expressed their opposition to Hitler were much too divided and shortsighted to combine against a common danger which they must have known would overwhelm them unless they united, however temporarily, to stamp it out."
-- William Shirer"

Sounds familiar, eh?

But tell us, MB, why are you limited to a sad Whataboutism rather than any direct argument?

#89 | Posted by Corky at 2022-12-02 04:38 PM | Reply

"The cardinal error of the Germans who opposed Nazism was their failure to unite against it."

Whatever you say, MadBomber.

Maybe next time just go with this:
Twelve years? That sounds like a choice.

#90 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-02 04:50 PM | Reply

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