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Wednesday, November 30, 2022

Former Trump adviser Stephen Miller testified on Tuesday to a federal grand jury in Washington, DC, as part of the January 6, 2021, investigation, CNN has learned, making him the first known witness to testify since the Justice Department appointed a special counsel to oversee the criminal investigations around the former president.

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"Miller, a former White House speechwriter and senior adviser to Trump, could provide a firsthand account of the former president's preparations for his speech at the Ellipse in Washington on January 6, including how he wanted to inspire his supporters, many of whom went on to attack the Capitol and disrupt Congress.

In April, Miller testified virtually for roughly eight hours before the House select committee investigating January 6 " a completely separate probe from the criminal investigation being run by the Justice Department."

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Miller testifying to the Fed Grand Jury, Meadows forced to testify to the GA Grand Jury... they are the big guns that will verify all the things we heard from Trump's aides under oath to the Committee.

It's like Dorothy isn't in Kansas anymore... it's getting all real in Oz.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-30 12:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#1 ... they are the big guns that will verify all the things we heard from Trump's aides under oath to the Committee. ...

Yeah, they will say, quite simply, "I refuse to answer based upon my 5th Amendment rights."

So, how will that verify anything?


How does Trump feel about the Fifth Amendment? Depends who is taking it. (August 2022)
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... If Your Time is short

--- Donald Trump issued a statement Aug. 10 saying that he would be taking the Fifth Amendment during questioning by the New York attorney general's office. Attorneys are engaged in a civil investigation into Trump's business practices.

--- In his statement Trump acknowledged that he had previously questioned why an innocent person would take the Fifth Amendment.

--- Trump has made statements for and against taking the Fifth Amendment, depending upon the persons involved.


Interesting article...

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-30 12:25 AM | Reply

Yeah, they will say, quite simply, "I refuse to answer based upon my 5th Amendment rights."

Not a lawyer, but I don't think the 5th protects refusal to answer questions about others, with the exception of a spouse. Refusal is obstruction, which can involve time. Will Miller do time for Trump? I doubt it.

#3 | Posted by horstngraben at 2022-11-30 12:40 AM | Reply

Taking the 5th at a Grand Jury apparently isn't exactly the same as doing it at a Committee interview, or at least may not have the same consequences as far as basically saying that you would incriminate yourself in a criminal act if you answered.

But we can let some of our lawyer posters weigh in on that.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2022-11-30 12:44 AM | Reply

@#4 ... Taking the 5th at a Grand Jury apparently isn't exactly the same as doing it at a Committee interview, ...

Yup, agreed.

... But we can let some of our lawyer posters weigh in on that. ...

More important, I suspect this will wind SCOTUS.

YMMV and all that...

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#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-30 01:21 AM | Reply

@#5

Oops..

More important, I suspect this will wind SCOTUS.

- should be -

More important, I suspect this will wind up at SCOTUS.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-30 01:23 AM | Reply

Using the Fifth Amendment is also a tacit admission of guilt, too, which comes with a risk a turning themselves into a target instead of a witness.

The closer the DOJ gets to Trump's inner circle, the more sever the penalty. The severity of the penalty is what gives the DOJ the leverage.

So, the real question is, will Miller save himself by negotiating an immunity plea deal ~~ or will he decide to rough it out to protect Donald Trump?

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-11-30 01:37 AM | Reply

@#7 ... Using the Fifth Amendment is also a tacit admission of guilt, ...

Not according to the Constitution.

... The closer the DOJ gets to Trump's inner circle, the more sever the penalty. ...

That seems to be what we've been experiencing.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-30 01:44 AM | Reply

LAMP

"Not according to the Constitution."

That's true. Any judge would include that in his/her jury instructions.

That why I used the word "tacit." Juries can't use it in their deliberations but they're well aware of the implication when a witness admits "on the grounds that I may incriminate myself."

"Of what? ~~ I'm thinking a jury might decide to let that question be answered in another trial.

#9 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-11-30 02:37 AM | Reply

@#9

Thanks for your follow-up post.

I do not disagree.


So I got nada to espouse.

:)

Here's a tune for ya, though...

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Enjoy!

And thx again for your reply.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-30 02:59 AM | Reply

LAMP

"I suspect this will wind SCOTUS."

Or maybe not ~~ considering the way the name of Clarence Thomas is being dragged into the investigation of John Eastman.

That's a whole 'nuther can of worms about which the SCOTUS might prefer to defer.

#11 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-11-30 03:14 AM | Reply

@#11 ...That's a whole 'nuther can of worms about which the SCOTUS might prefer to defer. ...

I don't see the current SCOTUS as deferring on anything...

YMMV.

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#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-11-30 03:22 AM | Reply

LAMP

"I don't see the current SCOTUS as deferring on anything...

Don't me too sure. They've voted in favor of the DOJ in their last two rulings, with no dissenting opinions. That's almost unheard of.

Roberts seems to be in rehab mode.

Maybe "defer" is the wrong word. I should have said "refuse to hear" especially if the case for the defense is full of holes the size of craters.

#13 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-11-30 03:58 AM | Reply

LAMP

"Roberts seems to be in rehab mode."

Let's don't forget, Roberts is the SC justice who is in charge for the District of Columbus where both the January 6 case and the Mar-a-Lago case will be filed.

#14 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-11-30 08:02 AM | Reply

AND, I almost forgot to mention, Judge Emmet Sullivan is the U.S. District Judge for the District of Columbia.

The Special Prosecutor is no fool.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2022-11-30 12:07 PM | Reply

Found Millers testimony. :]

#16 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2022-11-30 02:39 PM | Reply

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