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Thursday, December 01, 2022

Russian President Vladimir Putin lost more than 6,000 of his troops in two weeks, adding further casualties to a hefty estimated Russian death toll from the war in Ukraine.

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The Ukrainians lie as easily as Trump.

Only idiots believe any of their figures.

Is this true like the Russians attacked Poland? Or the ghost of Kiev shooting down Russian aircraft?

More noise.

#1 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-12-01 07:54 AM | Reply

More noise.

#1 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

But still somehow the Russians no longer hold Kherson.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2022-12-01 08:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 6

#1 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER AT

This is the most public war in human history, thanks to drones and satellites.

You lie as easily as the Russians.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2022-12-01 08:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"More noise."

That's the muffled screams of dying Russians.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-12-01 09:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Savvy Genius Loses 6000 Troops In 2 Weeks

I mean, are guys thrown into the field armed only with broomsticks, their wive's tampons, and a liter of vodka really "troops?"

The real question is whether Ukraine and its allies will run out of ammo before Russia runs out of mobilized geriatrics.

Mr. Owl Voice: "Let's find out. One, two, three [...] 142.8 million."

#5 | Posted by censored at 2022-12-01 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Only idiots believe any of their figures.
#1 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER AT 2022-12-01 07:54 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Both the US and Europe are reporting similar figures in losses. Performance to date would also suggest a significant number of losses on the Russian side. Are the numbers exact? Certainly not, but we know that Russian deaths are between 80k and 100k based on several independent estimates.

Let me guess - the only reliable figures are the ones published in Pravda?

#6 | Posted by bartimus at 2022-12-01 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#6 ... Both the US and Europe are reporting similar figures in losses. ...

Also, why would Pres Putin feel the need to mobilize so many more troops, along with the apparent inability to train, clothe or provide gear and arms for them, if his loses in Ukraine were not so high?


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-12-01 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

the apparent inability to train, clothe or provide gear and arms for them, if his loses in Ukraine were not so high?

#7 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Most of those competent to train are already killed. No equipment because someone stole it years ago.

Putin the Butcher.

Pressing these sort of troops into battle invites revolution.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2022-12-01 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Also, why would Pres Putin feel the need to mobilize so many more troops [...] if his loses in Ukraine were not so high? #7 | Posted by LampLighter

So he doesn't have to wait in line at Tasty Period.

#9 | Posted by censored at 2022-12-01 12:43 PM | Reply

That means something else entirely over here. Ecch.

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-12-01 12:53 PM | Reply

Pressing these sort of troops into battle invites revolution.

#8 | POSTED BY ZED

Ukraine and the world should be so lucky.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2022-12-01 01:01 PM | Reply

Overthrowing putin would have resulted in fewer russian deaths than fighting in his attempt to steal ukraine's land and resources. Now you cowards get to go freeze and die in the cold because you lack the balls to oust the leader who's sending you there.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-12-01 01:20 PM | Reply

Only idiots believe any of their figures.

#1 | Posted by Effeteposer

No only idiots believe any of the figures from the side that had to shut down the internet and take over all the tv stations. hint - that's you.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-12-01 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Who better than the Ukrainians to gauge Russian losses-they are the ones on the front line inflicting those losses. Only idiots would think otherwise.

Too slow for the rest of us, but Putin's expiration date is steadily moving closer. Maybe his real goal is to outshine that of his hero, Uncle Joe?

#14 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2022-12-01 01:41 PM | Reply

There's plenty of drone videos out there.

#15 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-12-01 02:41 PM | Reply

I don't know if anyone has seen any of the footage coming out of Bakhmut, but it looks like France in WWI. Filthy, flooded, muddy trenches in temperatures just above freezing.

That's a type of warfare that has not been seen in more than a century.

It's like watching the new movie All Quiet on the Western Front.

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2022-12-01 03:20 PM | Reply

Great movie by the way. It is currently on Netflix.

Regardless, if anyone seriously doubts that Putin is guilty of crimes against humanity they need to check out the images coming out of Bakmut. The man is a monster. He deserves to be executed for his crimes.

#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-12-01 03:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Putin needs to read the history of Tsar Nicholas II and WWI.

#18 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2022-12-01 03:34 PM | Reply

@#17 ... if anyone seriously doubts that Putin is guilty of crimes against humanity ...

Torture allegations mount in aftermath of Kherson occupation
apnews.com

...When a dozen Russian soldiers stormed into Dmytro Bilyi's home in August, the 24-year-old police officer said they gave him a chilling choice: Hand in his pistol or his mother and brother would disappear.

Bilyi turned his gun over to the soldiers, who carried machine guns and had their faces concealed. But it didn't matter. They dragged him from his house in Ukraine's southern village of Chornobaivka to a prison in the nearby regional capital of Kherson, where he said he was locked in a cell and tortured for days, his -------- and ears shocked with electricity.

"It was like hell all over my body," Bilyi recalled. "It burns so bad it's like the blood is boiling ... I just wanted it to stop," he said.

More than two weeks after Russians retreated from the city, accounts such as his are helping to uncover sites where torture allegedly took place in Kherson, which Kremlin forces occupied for eight months. Five such rooms have been found in the city, along with at least four more in the wider Kherson region, where people allege that they were confined, beaten, shocked, interrogated and threatened with death, police said.

Human rights experts warn that the accusations made so far are likely only the beginning....


#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-12-01 04:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Like the CIA black sites. In Poland. We do it too. They wanted info. Where the Nazis were. He wasn't killed was he?

The Ukies just kill em'. No witnesses.

#20 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2022-12-01 05:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#20: Why are you so intent on defending Russian crimes? Seriously. Why?

#21 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-12-01 05:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Like the CIA black sites. In Poland. We do it too. They wanted info. Where the Nazis were. He wasn't killed was he?

The Ukies just kill em'. No witnesses.

#20 | Posted by Effeteposer

Get back to us when the ukies invade a weaker neighbor, slaughtering women and children to steal their land and resources.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-12-01 05:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#22 'weaker'. Haha jokes on Putin.

Russian has never fought anyone with advanced satellite and signal Intel, plus advanced weapons.

#23 | Posted by bored at 2022-12-01 06:10 PM | Reply

Speaksoftly, if the Ukies turn around and invade Russia does that now constitute invading a weaker neighbor?

#24 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-12-01 06:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"This is the most public war in human history, thanks to drones and satellites."

Putin got plenty of warning that thanks to satellites everyone know his invasion was coming and he went ahead and bit off more than he could chew.

#25 | Posted by Tor at 2022-12-01 07:02 PM | Reply

AFatPoofter...checkski's in the mail. Ahahahahaha.

#26 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2022-12-01 07:32 PM | Reply

Hey Effete, here's something to really rile you up...

Without nukes, Russia isn't even a Top 10 army in the world anymore...

1. U.S.
2. China
3. India
4. Germany
5. Poland
6. South Korea
7. Japan
8. UK
9. France
10. Turkey
11. Ukraine--with allies help
12. Russia...

All of these countries would wipe the floor
with Russia in a serious non-nuclear engagement.

Put that in you bowl of Borscht and guzzle it!

#27 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-12-01 08:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Reality check: Ukraine mobilized the entire Ukrainian adult male population on day one. Ukraine's losses have been and greater than Russia's, and they have no additional people to mobilize (unless NATO wants to jump in and start WW3). Kherson was "retaken" to the extent that Russia moved across the river and waited for the Ukrainian forces to move in and get shelled.

#28 | Posted by FasterDisaster at 2022-12-01 09:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Not true, not true, not true, and Ukranian artillery outranges Russian artillery at this point in the war and has for the last 3 months or so, there's just a lot more Russian guns.

#29 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2022-12-02 12:02 PM | Reply

@#28 ... Kherson was "retaken" to the extent that Russia moved across the river and waited for the Ukrainian forces to move in and get shelled. ...

Pres Putin is shelling wide swaths of Ukraine, killing and injuring Ukraine citizens.

What's yer point about Kherson?

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2022-12-02 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Reality check: Ukraine mobilized the entire Ukrainian adult male population on day one. Ukraine's losses have been and greater than Russia's, and they have no additional people to mobilize (unless NATO wants to jump in and start WW3). Kherson was "retaken" to the extent that Russia moved across the river and waited for the Ukrainian forces to move in and get shelled.

#28 | Posted by FasterDisaster

Maybe ukraine should shell russian civilians like russia shells ukrainian civilians to make those losses more even.

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2022-12-02 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Ukraine's losses have been and greater than Russia's"

Certainly true on the civilian side... and the infrastructure side...

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-02 12:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

When is EffetePoser finally going to put up or shut up? Either grab a weapon and join your heroes fighting in The Ukraine, or just stfu already. You puling loud-mouthed coward!

#33 | Posted by moder8 at 2022-12-02 01:22 PM | Reply

EffetePoser is doing his dangest to stay off the front lines. Only he's not very good at his present job and would be more effective as cannon fodder. At least there he'd count for something.

#34 | Posted by BBQ at 2022-12-02 02:24 PM | Reply

"Or the ghost of Kiev shooting down Russian aircraft?"

You imbicile are you referring to the Russian troops shooting dowm the Malaysian airliner that killed 290 people?

#35 | Posted by danni at 2022-12-02 08:58 PM | Reply

#35 The Ghost of Kiev was an urban legend from the opening weeks of the war that some Ukranuan pilot shot down a bunch of Russian attack planes.

I believe it turned out to be just that, an urban legend.

It provided a morale boost for everyone expect the attackers, at a time before it became a quagmire and things were very much in flux.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-02 09:05 PM | Reply

I can't see either Russia or Ukraine winning in this war. Is the land worth all the suffering?

#37 | Posted by wolfdog at 2022-12-02 10:02 PM | Reply

"I can't see either Russia or Ukraine winning in this war."

The doctor said you had less than five years to live, and you decided to spend them doing this?

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-02 10:05 PM | Reply

Ukraine has been shelling Russian civilians in Donbas for nearly nine years. That's one of the primary reasons for the war, guy.

#39 | Posted by FasterDisaster at 2022-12-02 11:23 PM | Reply

Putin Loses 6000 Troops in 2 Weeks

The demented orange pedo was losing 4000 Americans a day to TrumpVirus before he was evicted from the White House.

#40 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2022-12-03 10:48 AM | Reply

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