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Monday, December 05, 2022

One of the officers who'd come to arrest Martha Menefield, an 82-year-old Black woman, for failure to pay a $77 trash bill, told her not to cry.

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I think we can dispense with the "there are no debtors prisons" talk.

#1 | Posted by fresno500 at 2022-12-04 10:08 PM | Reply

I new she was black based on the headline.

This shht doesn't happen to white peoples

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2022-12-04 10:14 PM | Reply

A woman over 80 years old and a bill under $80?

If I was the cop I would rather pay her bill than have her arrest on my record.

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2022-12-04 10:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The only people here thar would help her are the older Conservative, normal clear thinking Americans.
The Drats hate old folks and want us dead.

#4 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2022-12-05 09:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

I heard they also found several shovels and rakes and implements of destruction in her front yard so they busted her for that as well.

#5 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2022-12-05 10:05 AM | Reply

The Drats hate old folks and want us dead.

#4 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2022-12-05 09:44 AM | FLAG PPPPFFFTTTTT

Red state activities. Clowns put business over people even at the smallest of levels. I bet that the sheriff as well as everyone involved in the matter and those who arrested her voted RED.

You know I'm right.

#6 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-12-05 10:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sad. And the culture of racism and discrimination
continues in the South and in Red State Land (also
known as 'Dumbfeckistan')

#7 | Posted by earthmuse at 2022-12-05 11:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

82-year-old Alabama Woman Arrested over $77 Trash Bill

"And she's Black to boot? Sounds like she needs to be disenfranchised for failure to pay that bill. Should probably send her to prison for 30 years if she's registered to vote, as a prophylactic measure I mean.

She can get back her right to vote if she pays the $77 + five grand in court fees and $400 for each day she spends in jail or prison."

- GOP

#8 | Posted by censored at 2022-12-05 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is why Conservatives love the South.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-05 11:22 AM | Reply

Just wait till the GOP "reforms" social security....this will become an epidemic with people in the 1% lining up to buy these houses for $100 from the county and then charge the previous owner $900/month rent.

#10 | Posted by Nixon at 2022-12-05 12:17 PM | Reply

The Drats hate old folks and want us dead.

#4 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2022-12-05 09:44 AM | FLAG EYER ROLL

Mmmmhmmm, that is exactly why we elected Joe Biden who is older than Trumpansy who btw is older than dirt.

Our geezer kicked your geezer's @$$ bPbPbPbPbPbPbP

meanwhile, back at the crawdad hole... an ever so manly Putin is pooting in his waders whilst fly fishing down a staircase.

#11 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2022-12-05 02:45 PM | Reply

"The only people here thar would help her are the older Conservative, normal clear thinking Americans."

Didn't the police help her by arresting her?
Doesn't upholding the law help people?

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-05 02:46 PM | Reply

"Didn't the police help her by arresting her?
Doesn't upholding the law help people?
#12 | POSTED BY SNOOFY"

So many questions, so little time. Ask away, I have my recently cleaned hoop ready.

#13 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2022-12-05 03:47 PM | Reply

Apparently the police aren't "older Conservative, normal clear thinking Americans."

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-05 03:53 PM | Reply

Menefield has lived in the same house in Valley for nearly 30 years.

30 f'n years doesn't buy you an ounce of good will.

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-12-05 04:00 PM | Reply

Mayor Leonard Riley Republican
Valley, Al Rep. District 3 Republican Mike Rogers
www.bestplaces.net
Chambers County, AL is Somewhat conservative. In Chambers County, AL 41.6% of the people voted Democrat in the last presidential election, 57.3% voted for the Republican Party, and the remaining 1.1% voted Independent.

In the last Presidential election, Chambers county remained very strongly Republican, 57.3% to 41.6%.
Chambers county voted Republican in every Presidential election since 2000

So, yeah, definitely a democrat problem.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-12-05 04:17 PM | Reply

"In the last Presidential election, Chambers county remained very strongly Republican, 57.3% to 41.6%."

57% for Trump?
I guess that explains the dearth of "older Conservative, normal clear thinking Americans."

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2022-12-05 04:18 PM | Reply

Prisons are a big lobby. You need to keep them full! This is why the state should run its own prisons. Can we start a gofundme for all of the people of Alabama that want out? It is a really crappy state. Most states count on a poor population that has no way out.

#18 | Posted by Brennnn at 2022-12-06 01:17 AM | Reply

"While our officers can use their discretionary judgment on certain matters, the enforcement of an arrest warrant issued by the court and signed by a magistrate, is not one of them. "

I doubt this has anything to do with race, age or political party. As stated in the article, the police have ZERO discretion when it come to arrest warrants. The attention needs to be on the judge or magistrate who issued the warrant, and/or the courts rules. Then again, Ms. Menefield has made it clear she doesn't think the rules apply to her:

"City of Valley Code Enforcement Officers issued Ms. Menefield a citation in August of 2022 for non-payment for trash services for the months of June, July, and August. Prior to issuing the citation, Code Enforcement tried to call Ms. Menefield several times and attempted to contact her in person at her residence. When contact could not be made, a door hanger was left at her residence. The hanger contained information on the reason for the visit and a name and contact phone number for her to call.

Ms. Menefield has had her trash services suspended three times in the past two years for non-payment and records indicate that there have been over twenty-two incidents of suspensions and revocation of services since 2006.

#19 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-12-06 01:24 AM | Reply

I feel great sympathy for her. I know what she is going through.

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-12-06 02:03 AM | Reply

Sounds like Alice's Restaurant.

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2022-12-06 03:07 AM | Reply

I have sympathy for those who are unable to pay for basic services because of financial need. The articles I have seen about her make no such claim. Just because she is old and Black doesn't mean she is poor..

The county has a program to waive trash fees for people subsisting on social security. Has she applied? After failing to pay her quarterly bill 22 times, it is pretty likely she has been told about that program. She has an adult daughter who is a tax specialist. I'm sure she could help her fill out the forms.

I also don't believe her " thought it was paid" line. It is clear she ignored numerous notification attempts (recently and over the past 16 years. These notices likely warned that failure to appear in court could result in an arrest.

I really lost sympathy for her when she pulled the religious card, and at the same time told the officers repeatedly they should be ashamed of themselves for simply doing their jobs, in admittedly the kindest way possible.

Just because you are old, and Christian doesn't mean you are nice, and the way she handled the situation proves she isn't nice. Rather than face the consequences for her irresponsibility, she has called on Americans to shame these officers, and the public has taken the bait, accusing them of racism and demanding they be fired.

#22 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-12-06 04:21 AM | Reply

"I have sympathy for those who are unable to pay for basic services because of financial need. The articles I have seen about her make no such claim. Just because she is old and Black doesn't mean she is poor.."

Based on the following info, I'm inclined to think she either doesn't have much money or she shouldn't be living alone do to cognitive issues that prevent her from properly taking care of herself and her home:

Because of plumbing issues, her water has been turned off and on for a while now, she said. On Thursday, she had no access to running water.

"I like to cook," she said, walking into her kitchen. "And I like to clean. But I've been having to borrow water from neighbors, and that's embarrassing."

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-12-06 06:28 AM | Reply

*do to cognitive issues = due to cognitive issues

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-12-06 06:39 AM | Reply

"Ms. Menefield has had her trash services suspended three times in the past two years for non-payment and records indicate that there have been over twenty-two incidents of suspensions and revocation of services since 2006."

That's a lot of times to be delinquent in paying your trash bill. Ironically, it is that very history of suspensions and revocation of services that somehow got resolved each time before that led her to believe this time would be no different.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-12-06 07:05 AM | Reply

Well no, she was arrested in 2006 also after non payment for several months. If this is a cognitive issue it has been going on since her 60's.

. By the way, generally speaking, failure to pay a bill is a civil matter, however failure to appear in court is a criminal matter. It was the judge (or magistrate) who issued the warrant. A warrant is a direct order from the bench and police officers have no ability to use any discretion.

#26 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-12-06 08:49 PM | Reply

Well no, she was arrested in 2006 also after non payment for several months. If this is a cognitive issue it has been going on since her 60's.

. By the way, generally speaking, failure to pay a bill is a civil matter, however failure to appear in court is a criminal matter. It was the judge (or magistrate) who issued the warrant. A warrant is a direct order from the bench and police officers have no ability to use any discretion. Failing to execute an arrest warrant is contempt of court. If the officers go had refused to arrest her, they would have both been jailed along with her.

#27 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-12-06 08:51 PM | Reply

"If this is a cognitive issue it has been going on since her 60's."

I wasn't saying that cognitive issues played a role in her not paying her trash collection bills over the years but potentially played a role in her not fixing her recent ongoing plumbing problems if lack of money wasn't the issue.

#28 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2022-12-06 09:02 PM | Reply

City governments suck. They don't give two schists about you if you are poor. They want their money and that's final.

#29 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-12-06 09:25 PM | Reply

I actually agree with both of you. One way or another society has failed her. But we really don't know full context, yet so many are blasting the cops and giving the lil ole lady a pass. There is always more to the story.

In her defense, a civil matter (like garbage collection) should never result in somebody losing their freedom. There are other civil remedies, like tax liens for example. But then she might be looking at losing her house, which IMHO would be a worse way for her to "hit bottom" than a couple hours in jail.

#30 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-12-06 09:58 PM | Reply

Someone agrees with me. That's a switch.

#31 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2022-12-06 10:05 PM | Reply

Here's a novel ------- approach. Recognize that an 82-year-old taxpayer who has been in the same house for 30 years and is on a fixed income. She should have her ------- trash bill waived.

Problem ------- solved.

it would take compassion though. Something absent in ------- Alabama. Reason 220,404 why not to live in a ---- hole state.

But the ---- hole state has plenty of time to criminalize all abortions.

Plenty of time to ---- their cousins, too.

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#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2022-12-06 10:43 PM | Reply

"She should have her ------- trash bill waived.Problem ------- solved. it would take compassion though. Something absent in ------- Alabama."

They have a program that waives trash fees for people on fixed incomes. Evidently she didn't apply.....or maybe she isn't poor. Not all elderly Black women are.

#33 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2022-12-07 01:11 PM | Reply

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