A Heavily Armed Man Caused Panic at a Supermarket -- Did He Break the Law?

Monday, January 02, 2023

Richard Fausset writes about a heavily armed in an Atlanta Publix just two days after a Colorado grocery store shooting left 10 dead. The Atlanta man was arrested but in a state with permissive gun laws authorities struggled with what to charge the man with.

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This knob got what he was looking for with his idiotic stunt: he got people to pay attention to him, he got to express his misunderstanding of the Second Amendment, and he got to express his half-baked theory about freedom. He is lucky he didn't get shot by someone else. His mental state should be tested and he should be treated like Barney Fife-a gun but no ammunition ...

#1 | Posted by catdog at 2023-01-02 09:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

On private property you have to call the police and have them trespassed if they refuse to leave. Trespassing with a firearm is a felony (at least in Texas) that gets your guns took.

#2 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-02 09:18 AM | Reply

The rights of the vulnerable end where the rights of the armed begin.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-02 09:21 AM | Reply

He is lucky he didn't get shot by someone else.

#1 | POSTED BY CATDOG

More rational to shoot him while you can rather than see what he wants to do next.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-02 09:22 AM | Reply

More rational to shoot him while you can rather than see what he wants to do next.

#4 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2023-01-02 09:22 AM | FLAG:

Try that and report back how it works out for you.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-02 09:31 AM | Reply

Deputy Barney Fyfe had a bullet for his gun, but Sheriff Andy made him carry the bullet loose in his pants pocket.

#6 | Posted by john47 at 2023-01-02 09:52 AM | Reply

More rational to shoot him while you can rather than see what he wants to do next.
#4 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2023-01-02 09:22 AM | FLAG:
Try that and report back how it works out for you.
#5 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

That's the funny thing about guns: If I shoot you first, you are dead no matter how many guns you have.

#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-01-02 10:16 AM | Reply

Try that and report back how it works out for you.

#5 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

I just stated what was rational.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-02 11:00 AM | Reply

I just stated what was rational.

#8 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2023-01-02 11:00 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

and I'm suggesting you go experiment to prove your hypothesis. See how the US Justice System agrees with you.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-02 11:11 AM | Reply

and I'm suggesting you go experiment to prove your hypothesis. See how the US Justice System agrees with you.

#9 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG AT

I do understand.

Do you understand that it's irrational for people like this to risk death by being armed?

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-02 11:20 AM | Reply

If see were a cop he could just say he feared for his life and get a paid vacation

Just saying

#11 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-01-02 12:13 PM | Reply

See should be zed

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-01-02 12:13 PM | Reply

and I'm suggesting you go experiment to prove your hypothesis. See how the US Justice System agrees with you.

#9 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Say you thought he made a move with it and you felt in fear for your life. Works on an almost daily basis for cops.

#13 | Posted by morris at 2023-01-02 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not if hes white.

#14 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-01-02 02:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Say you thought he made a move with it and you felt in fear for your life. Works on an almost daily basis for cops.

#13 | POSTED BY MORRIS AT 2023-01-02 02:25 PM | FLAG:

Okay, go try that lol.

There's a reason these cosplayers don't get shot. It's not for want of people with guns to shoot back with.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-02 02:33 PM | Reply

Shoot back lol. Shoot first. That's the difference really. If the guy doesn't walk in, point at everybody and start shooting, probably a cosplayer and you shouldn't run up and shoot him in the back of the head.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-02 02:34 PM | Reply

probably a cosplayer and you shouldn't run up and shoot him in the back of the head.

Maybe you could just pull a "Zimmerman" and follow him around until he gets twitchy and then bust a cap on him.

#17 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-01-02 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just going to get yourself Rittenhoused doing that.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-02 02:52 PM | Reply

Deputy Barney Fyfe had a bullet for his gun, but Sheriff Andy made him carry the bullet loose in his pants pocket.

#6 | POSTED BY JOHN47 AT 2023-01-02 09:52 AM | FLAG:

Your comment is so irresponsible! He carried his bullet in a shirt pocket, for crying out loud. Know your facts before spouting off.
;)

#19 | Posted by cbob at 2023-01-02 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just going to get yourself Rittenhoused doing that.

Not if you shoot first.

#20 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-01-02 03:06 PM | Reply

"More rational to shoot him while you can rather than see what he wants to do next."
#4 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2023-01-02 09:22 AM
"I just stated what was rational."
#8 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2023-01-02 11:00 AM

What you are proposing is based on fear and panic. The exact opposite of being rational.

#21 | Posted by sentinel at 2023-01-02 03:59 PM | Reply

"Do you understand that it's irrational for people like this to risk death by being armed?"
#10 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2023-01-02 11:20 AM

I wonder what you could possibly mean by that.

#22 | Posted by sentinel at 2023-01-02 04:00 PM | Reply

Why is this country so STUPID? The states pass laws that the Supreme Court makes unconstitutional. So the states have to allow this kind of lunancy, even though they don't want to.

Meanwhile abortion is allowed in some states but not others?

Why can't some states outlaw guns? They used to? It was legal to put heavy restrictions on gun ownership.

Now the guns have more rights than people. What changed?

Why did the SCOTUS find new gun rights nobody ever had before?

What is this colossal stupidity justified by?

The constitution is the same so what's driving this constant gun loving approach?

How is it made Law?

#23 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2023-01-02 04:24 PM | Reply

What you are proposing is based on fear and panic.

People buy, own and use guns due to fear and panic.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-01-02 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What you are proposing is based on fear and panic.

#21 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

What I'm asserting is that there is no reason to trust in a weaponized man's shifting moods or theoretical sanity.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-02 05:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's kind of like allowing people to take a loaded firearm into the zoo.

There are plenty of security measures in place you have no need of a gun in either and if you insist on taking one there you're the threat.

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#26 | Posted by Tor at 2023-01-02 05:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

caused a public panic? of course, he broke the law.

#27 | Posted by ichiro at 2023-01-02 10:40 PM | Reply

public endangerment (he obviously doesn't know his local audience)
disturbing the peace ... .
The store will be liable too.
They better stop allowing guns in their store. After this weather it's legal on the outside or not.

#28 | Posted by ichiro at 2023-01-02 10:41 PM | Reply

Found a not pay-walled copy of the article. www.wral.com

Pay attention to the very similar Houston case, jury found the person guilty for a very similar misdemeanor.

Concluding paragraph.

"What is the definition of reckless conduct?" Brant said. "Carrying weapons? In a state that requires no permit? And no license? I mean, help me understand, what's the reckless conduct?" This article originally appeared in The New York Times.

A Harris County jury found it so it's somewhere but that's just one case. The prosecutor summed the practical dilemma; "How long does it take to go from in a manner calculated to alarm' to deadly conduct?" said Beedle, who helped handle the Herrera case. "A millisecond, right?"

#29 | Posted by et_al at 2023-01-03 12:03 AM | Reply

Found a not pay-walled copy of the article.

Charming. Homeless guy, no family or friends, no car. All he seems to own are 4 handguns, an AR-15, a shotgun, and a bunch of ammo.

Tick... tick... tick...

#30 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-01-03 12:25 AM | Reply

People buy, own and use guns due to fear and panic.
#24 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2023-01-02 04:49 PM | FLAG:

I'm neither in fear nor panicked when hunting. Mostly just hungry.

#31 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-03 07:36 AM | Reply

Since everyone in trump voting states are gonna be packing heat, we need to bring back quick draw contests.

#32 | Posted by kudzu at 2023-01-03 07:59 AM | Reply

How is it made Law?

#23 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

Seriously.....where you been the last 20 years?

It takes some serious denial, lack of presence and wishful thinking to ignore the reality that brought us here.

#33 | Posted by kudzu at 2023-01-03 08:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

we need to bring back quick draw contests.

#32 | POSTED BY KUDZU AT 2023-01-03 07:59 AM | FLAG:

You're thinking of Hollywood's version, actors playing with guns.

Real quickdraw contests never went away. Heavy on the cosplaying in modern times.

#34 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-03 09:06 AM | Reply

Not if you shoot first.

#20 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2023-01-02 03:06 PM | FLAG:

Definitely going to prison for that one. Then you're going to have to join the white car and do dirt for aryans.

#35 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-03 09:09 AM | Reply

Maybe he was looking for the Deputy.

#36 | Posted by sentinel at 2023-01-03 09:30 AM | Reply

Armed men will always cause fear. Weapons always change the social dynamic. Gun bunnies ruin life for everyone.

#37 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-03 09:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thinking of someone I know very well right now. Owned guns forever. Everyone knew he would try to kill someone with them. but just didn't know when. Then came when.

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-03 09:35 AM | Reply

Armed men will always cause fear. Weapons always change the social dynamic. Gun bunnies ruin life for everyone.

#37 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2023-01-03 09:33 AM | FLAG:

Last time I stood amongst a large group of armed people, it was pretty chill. The only time any of them have shot anybody, they were government employees at the time and in a foreign land.

#39 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-03 12:22 PM | Reply

39 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

There is a lot of variety to these sorts of experiences, which is the problem.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-03 12:40 PM | Reply