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Thursday, January 19, 2023

Women in states with abortion bans are nearly three times more likely to die during pregnancy, childbirth or soon after giving birth, according to a report from the Gender Equity Policy Institute shared first with Axios.

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"Pro-life" my ass.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-01-19 05:45 PM | Reply

States, not women, should have the right to choose if women in those states are Nearly 3 Times More Likely to Die.
--JeffJ

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-19 06:18 PM | Reply

Republicans are Scum

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-01-19 06:40 PM | Reply

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 06:55 PM | Reply

A "supportive state" is a state that hasn't restricted any abortion access either before or after the reversal of RvW?

The article didn't make that clear.

Interesting that maternal mortality has climbed everywhere.

And of course the rate in the US has been horrible for years prior to these recent changes.

It's a product of our healthcare system more than abortion rights if you're going to look at this for the past decade or so.

And states that enacted abortion restrictions had horrible maternal mortality rates going back a long time.

I'm not shocked results have worsened and this needs to be advertised. A lot of folks living in those red states don't realize this is a consequence due to their bubble.

Sad.

Now, you can all proceed to blame me. I'm headed to a dinner function so I'll come back later and slap all of the collective ---- out of your mouths when I'm good and ready.

#5 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 07:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" A lot of folks living in those red states don't realize"

I doubt they don't realize.
Just like there aren't any women who don't know they're pregnant with a human life.

But maybe there's people who don't realize.
Perhaps they just need to be educated.

What can we do about people who know, and still vote for it?

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-19 07:31 PM | Reply

Cuba has better infant mortality rates and maternal health than we do. We are the lowest of all the industrialized nations with the red states leading the race to the bottom. It will get worse as health care providers are unable to get training in all aspects of maternal health so residency programs will wither. They will leave for greener pastures where there families will have access to good health care.

#7 | Posted by mattm at 2023-01-19 07:41 PM | Reply

"with the red states leading the race to the bottom."

Red States just took a big lead in that race.

So Much Winning!
#MAGA

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-19 07:44 PM | Reply

Apparently infants don't deserve the same protections that fetuses have.

ILM Infant Lives Matter!

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2023-01-19 07:56 PM | Reply

" ... A lot of folks living in those red states don't realize ... "

Nah, they just don't GAF. Pregnancy, maternal mortality ... it's all part of God's plan.

#10 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2023-01-19 08:25 PM | Reply

"A "supportive state" is a state that hasn't restricted any abortion access either before or after the reversal of RvW?"

Well, that, or they're just not offering bounties.

Hard to tell.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-01-19 09:02 PM | Reply

"Apparently infants don't deserve the same protections that fetuses have."

Once they're independent, you can't use them to control the woman anymore.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-01-19 09:08 PM | Reply

Now, you can all proceed to blame me.

You voted republican. Eat it.

#13 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 09:18 PM | Reply

"birthing person"

#14 | Posted by stoneher at 2023-01-19 09:26 PM | Reply

Your mom wishes she could have had an abortion russian.

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2023-01-19 09:42 PM | Reply

I have wondered if perhaps 200 years from now people will see abortion like we see slavery today.

How could they not see how wrong it is?

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-19 09:51 PM | Reply

What's a few dead cows?

~ The GQP ~

#17 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2023-01-19 09:56 PM | Reply

How could people not see the moral dilemma and contradiction.

We see slavery now as grotesque.

In 200 years people may look back at abortion the same way.

#18 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-19 10:02 PM | Reply

"We see slavery now as grotesque."

We see laws against abortion as grotesque.

Maybe someday you will too.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-19 10:05 PM | Reply

"How could they not see how wrong it is?"

There are plenty of times when it's right.

But most of all, it's not the government's place to choose.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-19 10:08 PM | Reply

"How could they not see how wrong it is?"

Is it so wrong, you'll make women three times more likely to die during pregnancy to stop it?

Answer me.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-19 10:09 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

I accept it as something women should have as an option.

But at least acknowledge it as a human life and not just a mole you're having removed.

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-19 10:13 PM | Reply

Nah, they just don't GAF. Pregnancy, maternal mortality ... it's all part of God's plan.

#10 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE AT 2023-01-19 08:25 PM | REPLY: Flag: Doesn't actually know anybody who lives in a red state.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 10:13 PM | Reply

"Is it so wrong, you'll make women three times more likely to die during pregnancy to stop it?"

They're leaving it in God's hands. But in all seriousness, do we have the actual numbers on women who die due to complications during pregnancy or childbirth vs the number of abortions performed? My guess is that they're calling it a net positive.

#24 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2023-01-19 10:14 PM | Reply

"Doesn't actually know anybody who lives in a red state."

Couldn't be more wrong.

#25 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2023-01-19 10:15 PM | Reply

psychic eberly is back.

#26 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 10:16 PM | Reply

26

Amazing, I know.

And you accused me of voting in republicans.......psychic on your part, Alex.

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 10:17 PM | Reply

25

Hardly.

Unless you're talking about the 2 or 3 relatives you last saw in high school on Thanksgiving which ended in a argument over something stupid and you wrote them off as hicks.

And that's your qualifying event. They don't GAF.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 10:19 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

Statistically the overwhelming majority of abortions are for convenience and not morally or medically needed and justified.

Drug addicts die at higher rate too.

Be more responsible and not put yourself in harm's way.

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-19 10:20 PM | Reply

i "accused you" of doing what you admitted long ago.

#30 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 10:25 PM | Reply

30

no you didn't. You're just making up so you can throw spitwads.

You could engage in the discussion.....but you'd rather make personal accusations and blame me for your ------ up lot in life.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 10:32 PM | Reply

oh, so you're a democrat now ebs?

do tell.

#32 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 10:33 PM | Reply

#27 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Who in the ---- do you think you're kidding?

#33 | Posted by memyselfini at 2023-01-19 10:35 PM | Reply

32

based on the way I vote in most general elections? I guess so.

There is what you call yourself and there is how you actually vote.

which do you think matters most?

I know what's confusing you. It's obvious.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 10:37 PM | Reply

lol you're a weasel.

and a republican.

#35 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 10:38 PM | Reply

EBERLY

Seniority: 48

Party: Republican

Ideology: None

Private E-mail
No Home Page

Joined 2005/12/01
Visited 2023/01/19

Status: user

#36 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 10:40 PM | Reply

poor thing.

You know you're not getting it and wondering what I know you don't.

Ignorance....it actually looks good on you, little Alex.

Swallow it.

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 10:46 PM | Reply

Contempt
________

Republicans

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-01-19 10:46 PM | Reply

i'm enjoying watching you squirm, eberly.

thanks!

#39 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 10:47 PM | Reply

you're welcome.

I'm here for you to enjoy.

Are you enjoying it?

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 10:51 PM | Reply

I don't know who eberly voted for, but I do remember him stating numerous time here on the DR that the GOP represented his values and interests

He said this while downplaying what the GOP was enabling. Still does.

#41 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-01-19 10:54 PM | Reply

Alex discovered I'm really a republican because he went to my user page where it says.....wait for it....I'm a republican.

------------ Colombo that Alex.

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 10:55 PM | Reply

oh so you're done lying about it tonight?

#43 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 10:57 PM | Reply

-I do remember him stating numerous time here on the DR that the GOP represented his values and interests

No you don't. Lying POS.

Wait....was that when you were Iamsam, Cococonservative, or Redneckville, or one of the other handles you've changed to over the years?

Regardless........All of you are lying.

It is NOT why I"m a registered republican.

And it's obvious why you losers always run to this. Because you've gotten your worthless asses whipped and the towel has been thrown in.

#44 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 10:59 PM | Reply

Be more responsible and not put yourself in harm's way.
#29 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Is that your advice for a fetus too?
Because it's good advice for a fetus.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-19 11:00 PM | Reply

Alex, I don't care who you voted for. IT's not who you are.

You're a -------- no matter who you voted for.

#46 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:00 PM | Reply

eberly i have literally never seen you win an argument here. with anyone. ever.

the only person that seems to take you seriously is danforth, and he regularly spanks your sorry ass.

#47 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 11:02 PM | Reply

"I do remember him stating numerous time here on the DR that the GOP represented his values and interests."

"No you don't. Lying POS."

If only someone could set the record straight on what party best represents Eberly's values and interests!
But it doesn't seem like there's anyone who is willing to do that.
Shame.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-19 11:02 PM | Reply

I've read JeffJ state he votes party line republican because they represent him.

I'm not sure why this bothers you.

Why else would he vote for Republicans?

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-01-19 11:03 PM | Reply

eberly is less honest than jeff then.

LOL

#50 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 11:05 PM | Reply

I've been here a while, Alex. I'm fine with however serious I'm taken. whatever that is.

If you don't take me seriously....I can live with it just fine.

You keep with the personal attacks while avoiding the issues.

That's you.

Anytime you want to nip at my heels, be my guest.

I'll give you a little attention if I feel like it.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:07 PM | Reply

sorry, when you lie i will point it out.

spin however you like.

#52 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 11:09 PM | Reply

-Why else would he vote for Republicans?

Do you know why I'm a registered republican?

#53 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:09 PM | Reply

Remember when the GOP wasn't going to go along with trumps stolen election antics for long
Cause you know, eberly "knows things" and all that

Seems an odd position for someone who isn't invested in the reputation of the GOP to take

Regardless, I'm sure he will deny it with his usual display

#54 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-01-19 11:10 PM | Reply

"It is NOT why I"m a registered republican."

I think you said once that where you live the Republican party is the only viable party around and most people are Republicans. So if you vote Republican you can have some influence over which Republicans represent you on a local, state and federal level, because Democrats just aren't going to win. You may have said something about being a registered Republican is better for you socially and professionally as well--or maybe I just speculated that on my own.

#55 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-19 11:10 PM | Reply

I seem to recall eberly saying he is a registered Republican because doing otherwise supposedly would hurt his business connections

In other words, it's because of a lack of morals and some good ole peer pressure

#56 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-01-19 11:16 PM | Reply

55

Of course, you remember and understand. Presumably because you have an IQ which totals more than some of these ----- added together.

Take my State Senator for example. He's an extreme right winger.....completely asshat.

The best way I can get rid of him is to vote in a primary AGAINST him for the moderate. Not in the general where a dead republican would beat a live democrat.

Now take this thread. I'm being chased by a few -------- desperate for my attention.

But.....where did I defend the GOP or attack the democratic party? Of course I did neither but their lying eyes saw me do something that offended them.

#57 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:16 PM | Reply

-I seem to recall eberly saying he is a registered Republican because doing otherwise supposedly would hurt his business connections

Someone let me know when this complete moron ever posts something accurate or worth reading.

I could easily change parties and nobody would know. I don't get into it with clients.

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:18 PM | Reply

-when you lie i will point it out.

No, you'll just sniff my ass like you are now. Just look at it.

However, nobody gives 2 ----- when you lie. Or when you don't lie. It never matters.

To anyone

#59 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:20 PM | Reply

^
Nailed it

#60 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-01-19 11:21 PM | Reply

"You may have said something about being a registered Republican is better for you socially and professionally as well--or maybe I just speculated that on my own."

Okay, then that part was just my own--incorrect--speculation then?

#61 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-19 11:23 PM | Reply

But.....where did I defend the GOP or attack the democratic party? Of course I did neither but their lying eyes saw me do something that offended them.
#57 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Well, what you did do, and what you frequently do, is attack Democrats--or people who vote for Democrats as the lesser of two evils--on here. For example:

#10 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE AT 2023-01-19 08:25 PM | REPLY: Flag: Doesn't actually know anybody who lives in a red state.
#23 | POSTED BY EBERLY

#62 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-19 11:28 PM | Reply

By comparison, you rarely attack Republicans--or people who vote for Republicans as the lesser of two evils. Those two factors taken together leave a certain strong suggestion/impression as to where your loyalties seem to lie.

#63 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-19 11:31 PM | Reply

Only 3 times more likely? I would expect that multiple to become larger as more time passes since Dobbs. It's only been 7 months.

#64 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2023-01-19 11:31 PM | Reply

i love kicking eberly, he freaks out for hours.

#65 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 11:31 PM | Reply

61

Correct. It's no secret I run in a republican circles but I'm not as social as you might think.

I manage people and represent my company in many ways.....but I don't sit around the campfire sipping bourbon discussing how awful liberals are and how they are ruining this country.

I love liberals and conservatives. I think despite how divisive we are.....I'm fine with our system and I always look forward to the future.

That kind of optimism pisses off EVERYONE.

So I stay out of political debates except here.....and even here I see how optimism pisses people off.

My optimism is evidence I'm really a mean republican because I choose not to freak out at every corner where the GOP does something we disagree with.

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:32 PM | Reply

yeah, the way you dismissed hagberd celine was -------- with optimism, eberly.

lol

#67 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-19 11:34 PM | Reply

what you frequently do, is attack Democrats--or people who vote for Democrats as the lesser of two evils--on here. For example:
#10 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE AT 2023-01-19 08:25 PM | REPLY: Flag: Doesn't actually know anybody who lives in a red state.

That's not what I did.

YOU saw someone make an absurd broad brushing comment that's objectively not true, and watched me take issue with it.

And that's "attacking a democrat".

No, it's attacking someone who was wrong. Objectively wrong.

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Nah, they just don't GAF. Pregnancy, maternal mortality ... it's all part of God's plan.

#10 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

That's probably accurate to describe some folks in red states....but not the majority.

They are ignorant. Not sadistic.

They misunderstand the difference between pro-life and anti-abortion. Their bubble keeps them from understanding it.

I know this......

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

-It's only been 7 months.

Exactly. I don't think Dobbs has had time to really impact things yet.

Like you, I think the gap will widen.

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:43 PM | Reply

Nah, they just don't GAF. Pregnancy, maternal mortality ... it's all part of God's plan.
#10 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

Maybe he was objectively wrong, to say they don't GAF, but was he wrong to say that conservative Christians matters involving pregnancy and maternal mortality as "all part of God's plan"?

#71 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-19 11:43 PM | Reply

-but was he wrong to say that conservative Christians matters involving pregnancy and maternal mortality as "all part of God's plan"?

I was mostly addressing the don't GAF part but that describes some of them.

#72 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-19 11:49 PM | Reply

Should be: but was he wrong to say that conservative Christians ssee matters involving pregnancy and maternal mortality as "all part of God's plan"?

And part of God's plan involves punishing Eve for eating the apple, what some have referred to as Eve's curse:

To the woman He said, "I will make your pain much worse in giving birth. You will give birth to children in pain. Yet your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you." GENESIS 3:16

#73 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-19 11:54 PM | Reply

"My optimism is evidence I'm really a mean republican because I choose not to freak out at every corner where the GOP does something we disagree with."

I remember having several conversations with you about optimism, mainly because I don't share optimism about American's future should certain elements of the Republican party take control.

#74 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-19 11:58 PM | Reply

*don't share your optimism.

Anyway, time for me to get to bed. This thread can return to it's regularly scheduled mutual bitch slapping. Good night.

#75 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-20 12:01 AM | Reply

eberly is less honest than jeff

I don't know.

But. He does like to jump in swinging.

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-01-20 12:52 AM | Reply

Do you know why I'm a registered republican?
#53 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Primaries? I'm pretty sure you've told me before.

I wasn't trying to jump on you.

Back when JeffJ was JeffJ I asked him why he voted for Republicans and his response was that they aligned better with his views. Now. That's not a word for word quote. But what Chief wrote wasn't too far off.

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-01-20 12:58 AM | Reply

- Eve's curse

Rwingers are under the misconception that, if there is a God and if he/she has a Plan..... poor ol' weak God needs these mighty rwingers to carry out said Plan for him, because obviously he can't do it himself.

They need to go out and put bounties on pregnant woman and put into Civil Law THEIR opinions of what God OUGHT to do.

These people are loony-t00n characters who have not the first clue about spirituality... which pretty much tells them that temporal matters are not really their concern.
'
There's nothing in the NT that tells them they should be trying to make their particularly obnoxious take on what they think is spirituality into the Law of the Land.

There is every indication there that nationalism is antithetical to Christianity.

Paul refused to have anything to do with it, even as he noted, when if anyone had the right to be a nationalist it was he as a high priest.

CS Lewis had his demon master character say from hell of nationalists:

"We have a pretty cageful of them down here."

#78 | Posted by Corky at 2023-01-20 01:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

God said this and God said that.

I'd like to know who was around at the time to actually witness God saying anything they claim He said.

#79 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-20 01:48 AM | Reply

How could people not see the moral dilemma and contradiction.
We see slavery now as grotesque.
In 200 years people may look back at abortion the same way.

#18 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2023-01-19 10:02 PM |

STFU Bill Johnson. It's none of your business. You get no say in this. Abortions have been going on since people have become pregnant. Deal with it Bill Johnson.

#80 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-01-20 09:04 AM | Reply

"Take my State Senator for example. He's an extreme right winger.....completely asshat.
The best way I can get rid of him is to vote in a primary AGAINST him for the moderate."

But Eberly.

From what you're saying, you ALREADY voted against him in the primary.

And that didn't work, because he's your State Senator!

So, your feel good about yourself votes are just like your farts. It only smells good to you. To us, we smell the failure.

Can't you understand that?

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-20 09:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A moderating influence that never changes the thing ts trying to change is not a moderating influence.

You. You are not a moderating influence, Eberly.

Especially because you never discuss politics with your clients.

Not saying you should discuss politics with your clients.

Just pointing out you are not what you imagine yourself to be. You're a fart.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-20 09:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A centrist fart in a right-wing windstorm.

That's our Eberly -- and he'll never let you forget it!

#83 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-20 09:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Laura,

Here's more food for thought.

The preferred opinion about homosexuality is its purely genetic and that social upbringing has no affect.

The advances in genetics are moving rapidly and perhaps in a few years they will find genetic markers with a high correlation to sexual attraction.

Well...you can just guess what will happen to the percentage of gays compared to the entire population.

#84 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-20 11:23 AM | Reply

"The preferred opinion about homosexuality is its purely genetic and that social upbringing has no affect."

Well, let's check this theory out: did your parents turn you gay?

#85 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-01-20 11:34 AM | Reply

"A lot of folks living in those red states don't realize this is a consequence due to their bubble."

Horse crap. They know, we've told them thousands of times. Truth is, they think the "-----" deserve it. The so called "Christians" would be stoning those women in Jesus's day. How they continue to pretend to be Christians is beyond my capacity to make excuses for their hateful laws and policies.

#86 | Posted by danni at 2023-01-20 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The preferred opinion about homosexuality is its purely genetic and that social upbringing has no affect.

#84 | Posted by BillJohnson

The preferred opinion is - WHO ------- CARES ABOUT ANYONE ELSE'S SEX LIVES?

Only fascists who need to scare people into voting for them so they can seize more wealth and power.

#87 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-20 12:59 PM | Reply

"The preferred opinion about homosexuality is its purely genetic and that social upbringing has no affect."

You're out of your mind.
People can be socialized to tolerate homosexuality -- or be intolerant of it, as happened to you.

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-20 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoofy,

"Tolerate"....yes...but let me assure few straight couples actually desire a gay child given the choice.

My scenario was actually being able to predict with some reliability a child will be a homosexual..

Don't live in your fantasy world.

It's not hate. Just a fact straight people prefer straight children but they love their gay children too.

We're talking once the day genetics is more advanced how I believe your precious abortion rights will be used.

#89 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-20 01:51 PM | Reply

Once genetics is more advanced we can count on a variety of less desirable traits being eradicated from the gene pool.

Look what natural selection has done on its own.

Once we have more tools to work with, I do question how it's going to be used.

#90 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-20 01:57 PM | Reply

Once genetics is more advanced we can count on a variety of less desirable traits being eradicated from the gene pool.

Look what natural selection has done on its own.

Once we have more tools to work with, I do question how it's going to be used.

#90 | Posted by BillJohnson

What's less desirable about being gay? Unless your goal is just to churn out more baby consumers to roast the climate and purchase disposable crap that ends up in the ocean and our bloodstream?

#91 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-20 02:02 PM | Reply

Once genetics is more advanced we can count on a variety of less desirable traits being eradicated from the gene pool.
#90 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You know Eugenics is considered on par with Nazism, right BillJohnson?

#92 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-20 02:15 PM | Reply

For the record I am pro life on a personal level. I am pro choice for everyone else. That being said if I could birth a child I wouldn't care what they were as long as they are happy and healthy Bill Johnson. They are independent of me and that is a beautiful thing.

#93 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-01-20 02:59 PM | Reply

Speak,

I hate to break it to you but eugenics and abortion have much in common.

#94 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-20 03:46 PM | Reply

I hate to break it to you but eugenics and abortion have much in common.

#94 | Posted by BillJohnson

One can be used for the other. So?

That doesn't mean women shouldnt be able to control when they have kids, or should be forced to allow parasites to grow inside of them and suck up their nutrients.

#95 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-20 03:57 PM | Reply

Speak,

"allow parasites to grow inside of them and suck up their nutrients."

Funny...you described what social programs have evolved into.

#96 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-20 04:26 PM | Reply

Funny...you described what social programs have evolved into.

#96 | Posted by BillJohnson

You're trying to suggest that spending on education is a drain on society instead of what it is - investing in a better future for the entire nation.

Want more crime? Make poor people dumber and poorer.

#97 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-20 04:47 PM | Reply

"Tolerate"....yes...but let me assure few straight couples actually desire a gay child given the choice."

^
Look, it's the socialization towards bigotry I was just talking about!

#98 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-20 05:15 PM | Reply

"My scenario was actually being able to predict with some reliability a child will be a homosexual."

So they can get an abortion.
We get it.

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-20 05:16 PM | Reply

Laura,
Here's more food for thought.
The preferred opinion about homosexuality is its purely genetic and that social upbringing has no affect.
The advances in genetics are moving rapidly and perhaps in a few years they will find genetic markers with a high correlation to sexual attraction.
Well...you can just guess what will happen to the percentage of gays compared to the entire population.
#84 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2023-01-20 11:23 AM

What if that isn't entirely correct? What if determining sexuality isn't a single process from the onset of embryonic formation, but in the third trimester long afterwards? YOU need to create a female that is not capable of creating anything but a "straight". That's what you are craving.

What is this "percentage of gays" and why? Does this seem precisely the same among all peoples throughout time? How is that possible?!

#100 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2023-01-20 07:13 PM | Reply

Red,

"What if determining sexuality isn't a single process from the onset of embryonic formation"

The parents DNA would likely be included in predicting a child's predisposition assuming genetics makes advances I was talking about.

AI will play a major role as well.

#101 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2023-01-21 10:04 AM | Reply

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