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Monday, January 23, 2023

DOJ: Four members of the Oath Keepers were found guilty today by a jury in the District of Columbia of seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Their actions and the actions of others disrupted a joint session of the U.S. Congress that was in the process of ascertaining and counting the electoral votes related to the presidential election. According to the evidence at trial, in the months leading up to January 6, these defendants and their co-conspirators plotted to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power, including by amassing an armed "quick reaction force" on the outskirts of the District of Columbia. The defendants - Roberto Minuta, 38, of Prosper, Texas; Joseph Hackett, 52, of Sarasota, Florida; David Moerschel, 45, of Punta Gorda, Florida; and Edward Vallejo, 64, of Phoenix, Arizona - were leaders and associates of the Oath Keepers organization. In addition to the seditious conspiracy count, all four were found guilty of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy to prevent Members of Congress from discharging their official duties. Hackett was also found guilty of destruction of evidence.

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...The Washington jury deliberated for about 12 hours over three days before delivering their guilty verdict on the rarely used charge, which carries up to 20 years in prison.

The four were also convicted of two other conspiracy charges as well as obstructing an official proceeding: Congress' certification of the 2020 election. Minuta, Hackett and Moerschel were acquitted of lesser charges. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-01-23 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

These people expected that high school would be named after them.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-23 05:43 PM | Reply

All these Antifa Tourists am convicted!

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2023-01-23 07:55 PM | Reply

Yet pathetic merrick garland will let trump and his co traitors in congress get away with it all.

"Just say it was stolen and the republican congressman will handle the rest"
-trump

Yeah nothing to look into there ay garland?

#4 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-23 08:47 PM | Reply

He did appoint Jack Smith, War Dog.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2023-01-23 09:52 PM | Reply

CORKY

Plus the DOJ (FBI) did track down and arrest nearly 1000 members of Proud Boys and Oath Keepers who are now being adjudicated and sentenced to prison as fast as the Washington D.C. court system can handle them.

However, I think SPEAKS thinks the DOJ already has enough evidence to arrest Donald Trump and is laying down on the job ~ for whatever reason.

I know that it appears that way but it's really not.

I have tried (and failed) to convince SPEAKS that the DOJ is building their case meticulously, exactly as they should, in order to bulletproof their case against appeals all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

But I'll try one more time.

Now, with a Special Counsel (with subpoena power) in charge of both the January 6 investigation and the Mar-a-Lago documents investigation, I think it's safe to say the walls are closing in on Trump and his entourage of co-conspirators with enough evidence to convict on both Subversion and Espionage along with a number of lesser charges to sweeten the pot.

That doesn't mean Trump will be going to prison. Unfortunately, his appeals will keep him a free man for years. But convictions (and sometimes even indictments) combined with New York's District Attorney curtailing his income, Trump will end a broken man bereft of both political influence and financial support.

For someone like Trump, that's a fate worse than any prison.

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-24 03:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"These people expected that high school would be named after them."

#2 | POSTED BY ZED

I think what they expected was to become members of Trump's Republican Guard, bespangled with gold braids, fancy buttons, epaulettes, pointy helmets, and a chest full of ribbons ~~~ after Trump became Dictator.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-24 03:57 AM | Reply

America is about free and fair elections. If you want to subvert such an election, you are a traitor to the Constitution and to the people. Hard to believe it isn't about white supremacy, returning American to being run by a few old rich white guys.

#8 | Posted by Hughmass at 2023-01-24 06:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

TWINPAC
I'm actually a bit surprised Trump didn't try to surpass Nixon's Savoyard restyling of the Secret Service -
www.weirduniverse.net He may have been waiting for a second term.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-01-24 07:26 AM | Reply

"These people expected that high school would be named after them."

A a grandiose yearning for a life of significance has always been a central component of this kind of behavior.

#10 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2023-01-24 09:24 AM | Reply

DOC

"He [Trump] may have been waiting for a second term."

That's what he hopes to do now (a second term). ~ for that coveted dictatorship.

However, he overplayed his hand in the midterm so the fate of the House in 2024 looks dismal as well. McCarthy is acting like a Mexican Jumping Bean trying to get everything lined up for Trump. He'll fail, of course.

I do love Karma (the indictments) but I sorely wish she didn't wait until the last minute to do her thing.

#11 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-24 09:45 AM | Reply

I have tried (and failed) to convince SPEAKS that the DOJ is building their case meticulously, exactly as they should, in order to bulletproof their case against appeals all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

#6 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

Mueller built his case meticulously too.

Did anything happen to Trump?

#12 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-01-24 09:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He may have been waiting for a second term.

#9 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

He was. And a second term by Trumpy would have been an even worse disaster for America than we can ever even want to know.

And these seditionists were all thinking they would be pardoned and given positions of power (probably his personal guards) by Trumpy after they had him permanently installed him as President for life.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-01-24 10:29 AM | Reply

He did appoint Jack Smith, War Dog.

#5 | Posted by Corky

After nearly 2 years of wasting time.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-24 10:36 AM | Reply

"Mueller built his case meticulously too.
Did anything happen to Trump?"

#12 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Keep in mind that Robert Mueller was a "Special Counsel" with no subpoena power and Bill Barr was Trump's Attorney General. ('nuff said)

Jack Smith is an independent "Special Prosecutor" attached to the Department of Justice with all the power he needs to investigate, subpoena, bring charges, call for Grand Juries and prosecute defendants wherever the trail of evidence leads him.

And therein lies the difference.

I'm surprised that you didn't know that.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-24 10:56 AM | Reply

SPEAKS

"After nearly 2 years of wasting time."

Your "Rush to Judgment" would have guaranteed Trump a second term in office.


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#16 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-24 11:09 AM | Reply

all thinking they would be pardoned and given positions of power (probably his personal guards)

"Republican Guard" has a nice ring to it. I wonder if they made hats? MRGGA?

#17 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-01-24 11:09 AM | Reply

That doesn't mean Trump will be going to prison. Unfortunately, his appeals will keep him a free man for years. But convictions (and sometimes even indictments) combined with New York's District Attorney curtailing his income, Trump will end a broken man bereft of both political influence and financial support.

For someone like Trump, that's a fate worse than any prison.

Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-24 03:41 AM | Reply | Flagged funny by SpeakSoftly

Nope. He deserves both and much more.

He sold our nation out for his personal profit.

Every one of his children that profited off their corruption .... Jared, Ivanka, Eric and Traitor Tot all need to be held accountable.

They all lined their pockets while Daddy was selling our national secrets.

Jared was paid $2,000,000,000 for top secret documents and for Bone Saw to murder an American journalist after Dotard forced the government to give him top secret clearance after it was refused.

That entire family was the most corrupt first family.

Period.

#18 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-01-24 12:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

SPEAKS

"After nearly 2 years of wasting time."

Your "Rush to Judgment" would have guaranteed Trump a second term in office.

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#16 | Posted by Twinpac

Your "rush to avoid upsetting fascists" is guaranteeing no consequences for trump, and another coup attempt in the future.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-24 01:32 PM | Reply

I have tried (and failed) to convince SPEAKS that the DOJ is building their case meticulously, exactly as they should, in order to bulletproof their case against appeals all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.
#6 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

I don't even think you believe this if truth be told. You have to tell yourself this so you can hold onto any hope that Biden isn't protecting Trump.

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-01-24 02:55 PM | Reply

That doesn't mean Trump will be going to prison. Unfortunately, his appeals will keep him a free man for years. But convictions (and sometimes even indictments) combined with New York's District Attorney curtailing his income, Trump will end a broken man bereft of both political influence and financial support.

I am already convinced. Trumpy will never go to jail.

If indicted Trumpy will probably be pardoned. Probably the only reason he hasn't already been pardoned is that he has committed so many crimes and was so blatant about it he made it practically impossible.

But if not this president than the next will. The country needs to be able to move on. Like we had to do after watergate.

But you are right that Trumpy will end much like Nixon did. Only his legal battles and court cases will seem to go on and on and on until the bitter end. Or a pardon.

Because that's his karma.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-01-24 03:12 PM | Reply

I don't even think you believe this if truth be told. You have to tell yourself this so you can hold onto any hope that Biden isn't protecting Trump.

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr

I dont think biden is protecting trump. Biden is protecting a delusional idea of "normalcy" that republicans have already destroyed. So now he's just negligently refusing to defend the country from an ongoing fascist insurrection.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-24 04:45 PM | Reply

But if not this president than the next will. The country needs to be able to move on. Like we had to do after watergate.

#21 | Posted by donnerboy

Watergate is an example of what NOT to do. It established we're not going to prosecute criminal presidents.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-24 04:47 PM | Reply

Hang these terrorists along with the demented orange pedo who incited them.

#24 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2023-01-24 04:52 PM | Reply

Knowing how slow the wheels of justice grind, I think Trump will die of old age, still waiting for the results of his last appeal.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-24 06:30 PM | Reply

BTW, L-A-U-R-A "Biden" has nothing to do with the prosecution of Donald Trump, protecting him or otherwise.

All legal matters re Trump are strictly in the wheelhouse of the Justice Department.

#26 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-24 06:39 PM | Reply

BTW, L-A-U-R-A "Biden" has nothing to do with the prosecution of Donald Trump, protecting him or otherwise.

All legal matters re Trump are strictly in the wheelhouse of the Justice Department.

#26 | Posted by Twinpac

Biden picked the head of the justice department. He could have chosen someone who realized how severe the threat posed by rising fascism is and how fiercely we need to prosecute them to stop it from progressing. He did the opposite.

And he could still fire him and replace him with someone like that.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-24 08:24 PM | Reply

SPEAKS #27

Shoulda, coulda, woulda!

Critics have all the answers and none, zero, nada of the responsibility.

You should be a Republican.

#28 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-25 03:51 AM | Reply

Critics have all the answers and none, zero, nada of the responsibility.

You should be a Republican.

#28 | Posted by Twinpac

I'm not the president. I'm not responsible for hiring and firing the AG until we get one that will protect our nation from a crisis of rising fascism. Biden is.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-25 12:14 PM | Reply

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