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Saturday, January 28, 2023

In March of 2022, we released a report that found murder rates in 2020 were 40% higher in Trump-voting states than Biden-voting states.

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We found that the murder rate in Trump-voting states has exceeded the murder rate in Biden-voting states every year this century. Cumulatively, overall murder rates since 2000 were on average 23% higher in Trump-voting states. For the past 21 years, the top 10 murder rate states have been dominated by reliably red states, namely Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Missouri. Even when we removed the county with the largest city in Trump-voting states (and kept them in for Biden-voting states), murder rates were still significantly higher in these red states.

And while media reports give the impression that murder rates are skyrocketing in blue areas, murder rates have actually increased at far higher rates in Trump-voting states over the past two decades, widening the Red State murder gap from a low of 9% in 2003 and 2004 to a high of 44% in 2019, before falling to 43% in 2020. Since 2000, murder rates have increased 39.4% in red states and just 13.4% in blue states.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-27 09:46 PM | Reply

But but but Chicago...

#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-01-27 10:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Something tells me this will be "approved" crime.

#3 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-01-28 05:21 AM | Reply

Glad someone finally put all this together.

Righties always act like their rural enclaves are gravely places of love, Jesus and prosperity.

Meanwhile, we all know they're economic deserts full of meth heads, --------, Chreestians and misery.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2023-01-28 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's remarkable how violent these poverty stricken repug cesspools are.

#5 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2023-01-28 08:32 PM | Reply

From the report:

Red states have more guns.

Red states tend to have more poverty.

Red states are poorly educated.

Democratic mayors fund police at far higher levels on a per capita basis.

#6 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2023-01-29 08:50 AM | Reply

-And while media reports give the impression that murder rates are skyrocketing in blue areas

Even traditional MSM outlets?

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-29 09:41 AM | Reply

Even traditional MSM outlets?

#7 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You mean honest people?

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-29 09:51 AM | Reply

"Red states have more guns.
Red states tend to have more poverty.
Red states are poorly educated."

Jiss anudda example of dat white pivlege.

#9 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2023-01-29 10:38 AM | Reply

Not this tired only story, where they try to create political division between the states with a meaningless correlation......so they tried manipulating the data by deleting the major cities, now try controlling for race.....

So, here are the 10 states with the highest percentage of black residents:

District of Columbia - 46.53%
Mississippi - 38.83%
Louisiana - 33.24%
Georgia - 31.76%
Maryland - 30.76%
South Carolina - 27.02%
Alabama - 26.47%
Delaware - 23.03%
North Carolina - 22.34%
Virginia - 20.41%

Isn't that something how they line right up with the states with highest murder rates? (Except the article didn't count DC)

worldpopulationreview.com

Folks, Homicide rates are almost entirely dominated by Black on Black Crime, and Black populations are much higher in Southeastern states. It is that simple. The silly idea that there are a bunch of white MAGA white rednecks in red hats running around shooting each other is just goofy.

Next is the part where a couple of you will call me a racist, when it is you who is ignoring this very important and relevant factor to marginalized communities. That says a lot about much Black Lives Matter to you.

#10 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2023-01-30 12:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The funny thing about blue states....most of them are less than 10% Black. I wonder why that is? Speaking of White Privelege......

#11 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2023-01-30 12:56 AM | Reply

BTW this is a rerun thread so I already know how it is going to turn out.

#12 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2023-01-30 01:01 AM | Reply

@#11 .... The funny thing about blue states....most of them are less than 10% Black. I wonder why that is? Speaking of White Privelege...... ...

Two questions about your comment...

1) why does 10% seem to be an important percentage to you?

2) why do you think what you have observed about blue states is funny?

#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-01-30 01:16 AM | Reply

Gun Deaths per Capita by State 2023
worldpopulationreview.com

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-01-30 01:20 AM | Reply

From the link in #14...

...Gun Deaths per Capita by State

The following ten states have the highest gun deaths per capita (per 100,000): Alaska (24.4), Mississippi (24.2), Wyoming (22.3), New Mexico (22.3), Alabama (22.2), Louisiana (22.1), Missouri (20.6), South Carolina (19.9), Arkansas (19.3), and Montana (19.3). The states with the highest gun deaths per capita have some of the country's highest gun ownership rates. Montana has the highest with 66.3%, followed by Wyoming with 66.2%, and Alaska with 64.5%.

Conversely, the states with the lowest gun deaths per capita are Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, and Rhode Island, all of which have fewer than five gun deaths per 100,000 people. ...


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-01-30 01:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Funny as in ironic that the Democratic Party likes to hold itself up as the party of Diversity, but most blue states are not very diverse at all. They don't have high levels of gun violence because they are full of affluent white people. It has little or nothing to do with whether the occupants voted for Biden or Trump. Comparisons at the State level are also irrelevant, and these types of articles that play the red state blue state rivalry are stupidly, deliberately divisive. States are not homogenous. Data that compares one state to another is rarely meaningful.

If you take a look at the county/city level you will see a VERY different result. Homicides mostly occur in densely populated urban areas.

I will agree that gun ownership rates can play a part, but again, the data points jump all over the place and are not consistent enough to be statistically significant. There are places with high gun ownership where crime rates are very low, and places where gun ownership is very low and crime rates are very high.

It is a much more relevant fact that gun violence disproportionately impacts communities of color, and homicide rates closely correlate with poverty and Black populations, at the community, county, city and state levels. That is a very real and urgent problem but the article completely ignores that correlation. The fact that the authors completely omit that shows they don't really care about murders in the Black community or the root causes of gun violence. Their intent is to make this a wedge issue to divide the states.

Like I said, this is a repeat thread. The author of the root article is a recent college graduate with a degree in something irrelevant, I can't remember what. My recollection is that both she and the other author have been employed as political operatives for Democratic candidates. The publisher of the article is a political think tank with a mandate to get Democrats elected. There is nothing objective about this article whatsoever, it is paid political messaging pretending to be journalism.

Maybe if I feel like it I will search out my posts on the old thread, which was a bit more comprehensive.

#16 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2023-01-30 03:43 AM | Reply

...Gun Deaths per Capita by State

The following ten states have the highest gun deaths per capita (per 100,000): Alaska (24.4), Mississippi (24.2), Wyoming (22.3), New Mexico (22.3), Alabama (22.2), Louisiana (22.1), Missouri (20.6), South Carolina (19.9), Arkansas (19.3), and Montana (19.3). The states with the highest gun deaths per capita have some of the country's highest gun ownership rates. Montana has the highest with 66.3%, followed by Wyoming with 66.2%, and Alaska with 64.5%.

Conversely, the states with the lowest gun deaths per capita are Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Hawaii, and Rhode Island, all of which have fewer than five gun deaths per 100,000 people. ...

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-01-30 01:22 AM | Reply | Flag:

Red states lead the nation in....

Diabetes
Obesity
Poverty
Low education

Yet these states continually vote for GQP.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-01-30 09:04 AM | Reply

"But but but Chicago..."

So glad that was the second post.

#18 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2023-01-30 12:34 PM | Reply

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