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'There Is a Real Sense That the Apocalypse Is Coming'
A former evangelical tracks the rise of white Christian nationalism -- and looks ahead to where the movement goes next.
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"There is a real sense [among white Christian nationalists] that the apocalypse is coming for this country if [they] don't do something radical," Onishi says.
"The idea that they would continue in ways that are standard " campaigns, voting drives, national renewal through ecumenical movements " that went by the wayside."
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I remember reading about an Israeli military unit who's job is to keep their ultra-nationalists, and some of ours, from blowing up the Islamic Dome of the Rock, built in the 7th century on the Temple Mount, the site of Solomon's Temple and its successors.
Apparently it's a full-time job keeping rwingers of all sorts from trying to move old God along, as he apparently needs their help to accomplish his goals.
This is religion upside down, where the followers are the main characters without whom history cannot proceed.
It's all human hubris and hypocrisy, without a word of scripture to it.
#1 | Posted by Corky at 2023-01-28 12:29 AM | Reply
"Get your black Nikes and purple shrouds here!"
#2 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-01-28 12:48 AM | Reply
The nonthinkers and loons are always teetering on an apocalypse of one sort or another; interestingly, it's often a doomsday they've created for themselves. Bon appetit!
#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-01-28 07:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
I found this article to be most true.
"There is more to fear from stupid people than Evil people" bigthink.com
#4 | Posted by bat4255 at 2023-01-28 12:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Don't panic!
One thing I have learned about life.
The End is always near.
#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-01-28 12:40 PM | Reply
The GOP is a Death Cult.
Now do you believe me?
#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-28 12:49 PM | Reply
My favorite Apocalypse ptrdiction is the one when selected people, apparently worthy oh Heaven, suddenly have their cloyhing removed jusy brfore their ascent into Heaven where there is, appatently, a huge ---- organized by God going on! Heaven, for the first time for me, seemed like a place I might want to be as long as He keeps the GD Evangelical assh***s out!
#7 | Posted by danni at 2023-01-28 01:04 PM | Reply
#3 Like climate change alarmists.
#8 | Posted by visitor_ at 2023-01-28 02:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1
#8 | POSTED BY VISITOR
There won't be a climate apocalypse.
You'll just lose your job, house, and savings
#9 | Posted by Zed at 2023-01-28 02:58 PM | Reply
Was the Dust Bowl a climate change apocalypse?
Asking for Republicans.
#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-28 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#8 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
Swing and a miss, you limp-wristed midget.
#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-01-28 04:01 PM | Reply
L'ike climate change alarmists." k/a people capable of of readiand comprehending about what is happening all over the planet. It isn;t like it's just theoretical, it is fact. Living h very consciousere in Florida we wre vwey conscious of sea level rise; the streetsb of South Brach flood regularly with water rising right out of the storm drains. That did not happen just 20 years ago except during s major hurricane mow it happen when there is a full moon.
#12 | Posted by danni at 2023-01-28 04:56 PM | Reply
People who hate the real world and want a nice heaven. I call these people terrorists. They have no logic and read the same book over and over like a crazy person. Sadly, there are so many of them they pretend this is normal.
#13 | Posted by Brennnn at 2023-01-28 08:11 PM | Reply
Climate change extremists by definition are not rational actors. Would you risk waking up during surgery to reduce CO2 by 0.01%? medicalxpress.com
Greta and Algore aren't scientists. Neither is Joy Behar.
#14 | Posted by visitor_ at 2023-01-28 08:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1
Sorry Chumly, idiots like you don't get to define the rest of us. Now go make your mommy a sammich.
#15 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-01-28 09:10 PM | Reply
I hit a nerve. I don't mean to impune your false religion and fake earth goddess. Feel free to make whatever futile gesture you think will appease her. Leave us normals alone. Mkay.
#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2023-01-28 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1
"I think the last thing it does is it puts those who buy into this story on the side of God. That may sound trite, but when you have an understanding of yourself as playing a special role in history, as outlined by the Creator, your political life takes on a supercharged dimension. I think we saw that on Jan. 6."
Yep, that's the scary part. The merger of politics and religion:
My son and I couldn't be more excited to see Kevin Sorbo's new Left Behind in theaters! Who needs 3D when we have the Lord salting our popcorn.
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Then stay after the film for a special message from the author of the series and Gov Mike Huckabee! That's why so many Christian conservatives don't want their kids in public schools--they want to them to drink the right-wing Kool-Aid straight and undiluted.
#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-28 10:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Excellent article, Corky. Thanks for posting it.
#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-28 10:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
This article helps me understand why so many Evangelicals support Trump:
Onishi: A lot of folks are now very familiar with the phrase "white privilege," but the writer Chrissy Stroop has helped me understand "Christian privilege" in the United States. The idea is that if you are a Christian person " especially a white Christian person " you are given a kind of benefit of the doubt in the public square. When you use rhetoric that can only be classified as extreme, it's often written off, and it doesn't set off the alarm bells that would be set off if you were a Muslim person or if you were someone who was neither Christian nor white. Many people imagine the white Christian still to be Ned Flanders from The Simpsons " the kind of pesky, moralist neighbor up the street who doesn't want people to use bad language or drink too much beer at the barbecue. But we really should envision him as Mr. Burns, the person who wants absolute control over the public square and who will use any means necessary to get it.
Many people imagine the white Christian still to be Ned Flanders from The Simpsons " the kind of pesky, moralist neighbor up the street who doesn't want people to use bad language or drink too much beer at the barbecue. But we really should envision him as Mr. Burns, the person who wants absolute control over the public square and who will use any means necessary to get it.
#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-01-28 10:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4
Biblical? No... Man-made? Yes...
#20 | Posted by earthmuse at 2023-01-29 01:10 AM | Reply
Some say a comet will fall from the sky Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still Followed by millions of dumbfounded -------- And some say the end is near Some say we'll see Armageddon soon I certainly hope we will I sure could use a vacation from this Stupid ----, silly ----, stupid ---- -Tool Aenima
It's not just right wingers a lot of people are starting to feel like the only way to fix it is to flu---- all away.
Not sure what that says about society in general but I'm thinking it's not great news. What do I know though I'm not a sociologist, I'm just a dude who fixes fireplaces, but I think maybe learn to swim is not such bad advice right now.
#21 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2023-01-29 10:58 AM | Reply
"I hit a nerve. " #16 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
No, you're just an idiot.
#22 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-01-29 12:54 PM | Reply
Ouch. You're more upset than I thought. Bad day?
#23 | Posted by visitor_ at 2023-01-29 03:36 PM | Reply
"Greta and Algore aren't scientists. Neither is Joy Behar."
No they aren't but they are all intelligent enough to listen to scientists. Only the dumbest among us think they are smarter than scientists who actually study and measure things like climate change.
#24 | Posted by danni at 2023-01-29 03:45 PM | Reply
Pisitor_ is as delusional as the fat, orange-faced traitor she worships.
#25 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-01-29 04:17 PM | Reply
As long as I can remember, world doom or armageddon is just around the corner; some even predicting the day of the event...on good authority of course. Every event has come and gone and the world with it's population is still here. It's not just limited to religion either. There seems to always have been the invisible planet coming to take us out going back to Mayans and Nostradamus. We're still here. Barnum and Bailey had it right, there's one born every minute. In all that, just saying there's a history of the predictions 'of the end of the world' and you can take your pick of the cause.
Not only that but every generation, has it's elders thinking the world has no future because of the newest crop of young adults. Going to Hades in a handbasket. That saying by the way, is thought to have originated in the catching of the head after the guillotine event. I'm not sure of what to think of the world lately, given all the mass shootings. Again most of us are still here and surviving.
So add a pinch of salt to that if you will...
#26 | Posted by BBQ at 2023-01-29 04:29 PM | Reply
Hey comrades!!! Dr. Doom is always just around the corner. What's the matter comrades? Are you so unworthy that God doesn't go and speak to you in your dreams? That's what religions are for. Used to be several, but now there is a whole department store of different religions. Yes comrades! Take your pick! And each one says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life". So flip a coin comrades! However, you can't join the Israeli religion and become a citizen of Israel. Since that's a race, the door is closed to you.
#27 | Posted by wolfdog at 2023-01-29 07:18 PM | Reply
" The nonthinkers and loons are always teetering on an apocalypse of one sort or another; interestingly, it's often a doomsday they've created for themselves. Bon appetit!"
In other relevant news, ex-speaker puglosi had a Catholic Priest come to their house and perform an "Exorcisism".
#28 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2023-01-29 11:25 PM | Reply
Are you proud of your work, phester?
#29 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-29 11:41 PM | Reply
#30 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-01-29 11:41 PM | Reply
Only to those that believe in that crap.
#31 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2023-01-30 07:23 AM | Reply
Then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had Catholic priests perform an exorcism of her house after her husband was attacked by an assailant looking for her in October, her daughter told The New York Times. "I think that weighed really heavy on her soul. I think she felt really guilty. I think that really broke her," their daughter Alexandra Pelosi told the paper.
"Are you proud of your work, phester?"
I'm always proud to pen the truth.
#33 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2023-01-30 10:02 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
Climate change extremists by definition are not rational actors. Would you risk waking up during surgery to reduce CO2 by 0.01%? medicalxpress.com Greta and Algore aren't scientists. Neither is Joy Behar.
#14 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
CO2 concentration ratios at .01% difference won't affect me. They will affect the atmosphere.
Now what if it was hydrogen cyanide, that would be different. .01% won't affect the atmosphere. But .0001% would mean you better wake me up from surgery or I'm dead.
Welcome to how gases work, dummy. A few parts per million (PPM) makes a difference with some gases.
Now CO2 ppm is up about 50% in the last 200 years. It's up 11% since 2000. And that isn't even the only gas with a greenhouse effect.
We have literally known this for over 100 years. The oil companies themselves knew this in the 70's and predicted climate change from it.
Only idiots like you with a 4th grade education still won't believe it.
#34 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-01-30 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
"Would you risk waking up during surgery to reduce CO2 by 0.01%?"
^ You didn't graduate high school.
#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-30 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
The christian nutbags are the ones bringing the apocalypse. 40 years of electing climate change deniers followed by becoming putin's puppet party.
#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-30 12:18 PM | Reply
#14 | Posted by visitor_
No they're just smart enough to listen to scientists. You're too stupid to see that other people could possibly know more than you.
#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-30 12:21 PM | Reply
#23 | Posted by visitor_
Copying eberly's favorite tactic when you're losing a debate - dodge the argument and talk about how your opponent is more emotional than you.
#38 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-01-30 12:33 PM | Reply
He was hardly losing any debate with legallyspeaksoftlyisbraindead.
Nobody loses to him.
to you either, for that matter.
But that's hardly worth arguing.
#39 | Posted by eberly at 2023-01-30 12:55 PM | Reply
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