Biden's No-Negotiation Stance on Debt Limit

Sunday, January 29, 2023

The Obama-Biden White House agreed to negotiate with Republicans on the debt ceiling. It brought the U.S. economy to the brink of disaster -- and the president and vice president vowed to change their posture.

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" "Let's find common ground, and let's eliminate the wasteful spending to protect the hard-working taxpa"yers."

As if he gives a crap about "hard-working Amerivan taxpayers," Republicans want consessions to justify tax cuts for the rich, nothing else. When Obama negotiated with the Republicans and allowed 2 trillion in cuts did your taxes go down? Of course not because this has nothing to do with us, it's just about the donor class who entirely own the Republican Party. Big donors want a return on their "investments"; i.e. political contributions. That is why the GQP cam only win elections by whipping up hate towards all minorities and especially easy targets like gays or trans people. Without hate the GQP would just be a paragraph in a history book.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2023-01-29 04:39 PM | Reply

Never negotiating with terrorists preceded the Biden administration. As I remember it, the only presidents that I know of who violated that and negotiated with terrorists were Nixon and Reagan. Now you can argue that Obama negotiated with terrorists when he negotiated the debt ceiling last decade. But was it as obvious as it is today that those who negotiated with actually were terrorists?

Back then, there was at least a semblance of deniability on that.

#2 | Posted by prius04 at 2023-01-29 06:56 PM | Reply

There they go again. The House is threatening to blow themselves up just to make President Biden look bad.

Will they never learn? What they're threatening to do has world-wide consequences. If they think President Biden is going to give in to that kind of idiocy, they don't know him very well.

However, if history tells us anything, the Repubs will play their hostage game right up to the last minute and then come up with a fig leaf to cover their ass while they quietly agree to a budget to pay the debt for the generous tax relief Trump doled out to his BFFs who forked over $millions$ to pay for his trip to the White House.

IMO, President Biden should send the bill to Donald Trump, not the taxpayers.

#3 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-01-30 03:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

pleasepleaseplease Diamond Joe, don't offer Kevin a glass of water or cup of coffee when you meet with him. Don't even offer a chair--just have him stand on the other side of the Resolute Desk. If the GOP goons want to negotiate, they need to put the Trump tax cuts on the table. In the absence of that concession, Kevin can Uber back to his office...

#4 | Posted by catdog at 2023-01-30 09:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Republicans had no problem increasing the debt ceiling repeatedly under Trump.

So they can do it again here.

#5 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-01-30 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

President Biden, please confront the GQP Republicans and give them NOTHING! Call their bluff! I'll have popcorn and sundry snacks at the ready!

#6 | Posted by john47 at 2023-01-30 11:34 AM | Reply

President Biden, please confront the GQP Republicans and give them NOTHING!

Cancun Cruz tried this when Obama was in office. He filibustered in 2013 over funding ACA...what happened.... national parks closed...soldiers stopped getting paid. He tried to blame the democrats and showboat at the veterans memorial and was bitch slapped for his wanting to have it both ways.

In the end his prank cost the government an extra $24,000,000,000.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-01-30 11:46 AM | Reply

Yep, now we have TWO Presidents who are on record saying they will not work with the other party. And the fact that Dems cheer this says everything anyone needs to know about that party. I'm not going to say that it's any better than Reps who hide it, but what it does do is prove beyond any doubt that Dems want a Dictatorship. Reps may want it too but they aren't the ones going on record announcing they want it. Whether that's better or worse is up to each person, as some people say it's better to know the Devil than to not.

#8 | Posted by humtake at 2023-01-30 11:50 AM | Reply

---- off, ------.

#9 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-01-30 01:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What's to negotiate here?
There's literally nothing to negotiate.

Now is the time for Republicans to apply their student loan reasoning to other types of government spending:
1. You borrowed the money.
2. Pay it back.
3. Crisis solved.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-30 01:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Yep, now we have TWO Presidents who are on record saying they will not work with the other party."

How would the President work with Republicans on this?
Should he hold their hand and sign for them?

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-01-30 01:47 PM | Reply

Once again the GOP is holding the nation
hostage (not to mention our fiscal system)
in order to score cheap points with the looney
right.

Everyone knows you have to borrow more money.
The Govt (w the exception of the crazy right),
the bankers, the economists, etc...

This is not how you negotiate terms if you want the
system to change. You know, you actually have to come
up with a plan that gets voted on.

But therein lies the problem...the GOP doesn't DO plans
or try to solve problems, other than by taking hostages...

#12 | Posted by earthmuse at 2023-01-30 03:24 PM | Reply

"Yep, now we have TWO Presidents who are on record saying they will not work with the other party."

Why would anyone in their right mind want to work with the Qanon party to destroy the American economy?

If the government no longer has to pay its bills then nobody does.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-01-30 03:37 PM | Reply

What's the point in negotiating anyway? The GOP never negotiates in good faith.

#14 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-01-30 04:49 PM | Reply

There's nothing about this to negotiate. The bills have to be paid.

If the Republicans want good faith and pragmatic negotiation, they should do it during budget negotiations. But that should consider pragmatic negotiation of a balanced budget to include tax increases on their wealthy benefactors. And that's never going to happen.

#15 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2023-01-30 05:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What comrades? What? No new tax breaks for the rich? Heh! The latest is that the Republicans want a flat tax for the rich. Of course this means higher State taxes for you on gas, property, and sales, and income. As for Social Security and Medicare you get a knife to the throat. These cuts are disguised with a higher age for minimum distributions and less adjustments for inflation. Yes it's Republican "Trickle-Down!" and "One up on YOU!"! Just ask Representative Republican Voss of Wisconsin what he thinks.

#16 | Posted by wolfdog at 2023-01-30 09:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The deficit skyrocketed after Trump's so called tax reform which was really just a massive give away to the 1%. Now the GOP wants the 99% to pay for it. This is what every GOP admin and congress has done going back to at least Reagan and we should know by now this is bad news for America.

#17 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-01-31 09:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If the house GQP wants to cut anything let's start with their own pay, benefits, and pension packages and go from there. Hands off SS and Medicare.

#18 | Posted by a_monson at 2023-01-31 11:05 AM | Reply

Dear Hummer,

Were you horribly abused when you were a kid? Did your parents trash your favorite toys in front of you? Did you attend a private school with corporal punishment for real or imagined misdeeds? Whatmade you the way you are?

Get help soon, Hummer. I would not want to read about you going off your meds and shooting up a McDonalds or similar.

Best,

John47

#19 | Posted by john47 at 2023-01-31 11:06 AM | Reply

Hands off SS and Medicare.

#18 | POSTED BY A_MONSON AT 2023-01-31 11:05 AM | FLAG:

That moment when you get what you ask for. The GOP aren't touching Medicare, Medicaid at all, including not expanding it.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-31 11:56 AM | Reply

Current insolvency date for Medicare is 2028.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-01-31 11:57 AM | Reply

The GOP aren't touching Medicare, Medicaid at all

#20 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Riiiight. The GOP would NEVER lie to the American people. /s

#22 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2023-01-31 12:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'm not going to say that it's any better than Reps who hide it, but what it does do is prove beyond any doubt that Dems want a Dictatorship."

Even you, Humtake, are not actually stupid enough to believe that. I'll admit Donald Trump did want to be crowned King though.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2023-01-31 01:57 PM | Reply