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Thursday, February 02, 2023

After the Civil War, there was a significant shift in the American political landscape. The Democratic Party, which had previously been the party of the South and slavery, was badly damaged by the war and the abolition of slavery. Many Southern Democrats, known as "Dixiecrats," felt betrayed by the party and shifted their support to the Republican Party, which was seen as the party of Lincoln and the Union. The Dixiecrats were conservative, white supremacists who opposed the Reconstruction policies of the Republican-led government, and the Republican Party's stance on limited government and support for business and industry made them appealing to many of these voters.

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In the years following the Civil War, the Republican Party became the dominant political force in the South, while the Democratic Party shifted its focus to the North and West, where it could still attract support from working-class and immigrant voters. Over time, the Republican Party evolved into the party of conservatism, while the Democratic Party became the party of progressivism and liberal reforms. This switch of American political parties after the Civil War helped to lay the foundation for the current political landscape in the United States.

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Maybe artificial intelligence can finally put this topic to bed for those of us on the DR.

#1 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2023-02-02 01:47 PM | Reply

Why do some Republicans not believe the southern switch is real?

Some Republicans may not believe the southern switch is real because the data and evidence to support it is difficult to find. Polling data has shown that some southern states have become more Democratic in recent years, but it's difficult to find consistent trends. Additionally, there is disagreement over how to define the "south" and how to measure political shifts. This makes it difficult to definitively prove that the so-called "southern switch" is real.

#2 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-02 04:44 PM | Reply

ChatGPT is clearly biased in its responses to many questions, using it as some sort of truth is ridiculous.

ChatGPT could be used for good, but like many other AI models, it's rife with racist and discriminatory bias
www.insider.com

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-02-03 12:24 AM | Reply

"Why do some Republicans not believe the southern switch is real?"

Change Republicans to Democrats, and see if/how the answer changes.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 12:34 AM | Reply

"Polling data has shown that some southern states have become more Democratic in recent years, but it's difficult to find consistent trends."

It's real easy, Sitzkrieg.
Wealth turns poor people Democrat.

I see you've taken to calling yourself a Green Anarchist now.
There are things you talk knowledgably about, but politics isn't one of them.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-03 12:42 AM | Reply

Snoof, it's a silly drop down box. I am not the first to sat this, but you come off as somebody that ------ their life up riding the H train for awhile.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 06:54 AM | Reply

Wealth turns poor people Democrat.

#5 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2023-02-03 12:42 AM | FLAG:

Also, you just got that HIST1302 exam question wrong. Wealth turns poor people into Communists. Unless you are telling me Democratic Capitalists are Communists, which is Republican mantra.

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 07:54 AM | Reply

Change Republicans to Democrats, and see if/how the answer changes.

#4 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-02-03 12:34 AM | FLAG:

Why do some Democrats not believe the southern switch is real?

Many Democrats do not believe the "southern switch" is real because they feel that the political landscape of the South has not truly shifted from conservative to liberal. While some states in the South have become more competitive in recent years, the majority of Southern states are still considered to be conservative. The fact that some states in the South have seen some Democratic victories does not necessarily mean that the entire region has shifted politically.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 08:07 AM | Reply

Isn't this article about the switch after the civil war, as opposed to now?

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-02-03 08:20 AM | Reply

It's a White/money way of dealing with the fact that most Blacks/poor live in the South.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-03 08:33 AM | Reply

Isn't this article about the switch after the civil war, as opposed to now?
#9 | POSTED BY REDIAL

It's all over the map. The first three sentences cover three quarters of a century.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-03 08:35 AM | Reply

There are things you talk knowledgably about, but politics isn't one of them.
#5 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Snoof, it's a silly drop down box.
#6 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

^
Stuff writes itself.
You just called yourself silly.
I'll not take issue with that.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-03 08:37 AM | Reply

#12 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2023-02-03 08:37 AM | FLAG:

Yeah, I'm a silly, fun person.

What do you believe your student debt to political knowledge ratio anyways? 1:1?

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 09:08 AM | Reply

"Yeah, I'm a silly, fun person."

A big hit at parties!

You strike me as, how to put this: A man with no female peers in his life.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-03 09:56 AM | Reply

But hey, if that's how you want to roll, like a prison top, that's cool.

And say hi to Pinche for us, next time you two get on the Down-Low!

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-03 10:04 AM | Reply

Half right, but the wrong part is way way off. Definitely fun at parties. When you have kids the only parties you really go to are bday parties. You the kind of parent that stands there just watching, or the kind of parent that gets out there and skates an LA circle with the kids on mini macs? I'm the latter.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 10:15 AM | Reply

#8

Thanks, Sitz!

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 11:06 AM | Reply

Thanks, Sitz!

#17 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-02-03 11:06 AM | FLAG:

Login to the playground. It's worth it. Give me a crazy tax question to ask it!

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 11:19 AM | Reply

Here are the answers back-to-back:

Many Democrats do not believe the "southern switch" is real because they feel that the political landscape of the South has not truly shifted from conservative to liberal. While some states in the South have become more competitive in recent years, the majority of Southern states are still considered to be conservative. The fact that some states in the South have seen some Democratic victories does not necessarily mean that the entire region has shifted politically.
Some Republicans may not believe the southern switch is real because the data and evidence to support it is difficult to find. Polling data has shown that some southern states have become more Democratic in recent years, but it's difficult to find consistent trends. Additionally, there is disagreement over how to define the "south" and how to measure political shifts. This makes it difficult to definitively prove that the so-called "southern switch" is real.
Many Democrats
Some Republicans

(Observation: The question was "some", yet the quantifying word in the answers differ)

because they feel that the political landscape of the South has not truly shifted
because the data and evidence to support it is difficult to find

(Ob: The data may be skewable, but the evidence has played out in front of our eyes for the last half-century. Also, note the word programmed to be used for the Dems' stance is "because they feel")

the majority of Southern states are still considered to be conservative.
some southern states have become more Democratic in recent years

(Ob: "Majority" is a specific designation; "Some" can mean just about anything, and usually means a percentage not worth crowing about.)

The fact that some states in the South
there is disagreement over how to define the "south"

(Ob: Yikes!)

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 11:24 AM | Reply

I am not the first to sat this, but you come off as somebody that ------ their life up riding the H train for awhile.
#6 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

That's fair.
In fact, I've often thought the same thing myself!
Yet somehow, I managed to accomplish all that without ever riding the H Train.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-03 01:02 PM | Reply

#19 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-02-03 11:24 AM | FLAG:

You can't put much stock into how it's quantifying it until you run the question multiple times on all of the "temperature" settings that controls randomness. It's far from infallible. Rocketry experts have asked it for known formulas and it has returned them with incorrect or missing variables.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 01:48 PM | Reply

"Rocketry experts have asked it for known formulas and it has returned them with incorrect or missing variables."

Oh, that can't possibly lead to any problems!
/s

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 01:49 PM | Reply

"You can't put much stock into how it's quantifying it "

The point is the same initial variable turned up two words with markedly different meanings.

My guess is if you ask 100 people what's more, "some apples" or "many apples", almost everyone will pick the latter.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 01:53 PM | Reply

sorry for the wall of text, but ....

"Write a trading card game where the players are tax cheats, hiding money and avoiding being imprisoned by IRS Agent Danforth. If Agent Danforth collects enough evidence to put a player in jail, the player has the option to bribe congress members to make the investigation go away."

Object of the Game: The goal of the game is to be the last player standing and have the most money hidden away.

Deck: The deck is made up of 60 cards in three categories: Evidence, Cheat and Action. Evidence cards are used by Agent Danforth to build his case against the players. Cheat cards are used by the players to hide their money. Action cards can be used to help players or hinder Agent Danforth.

Setup: Each player begins with a bank account of 10,000 dollars, a hand of 7 cheat cards and 3 evidence cards. The remaining cards form the draw pile.

Gameplay: On a player's turn they may play cheat cards to hide money, draw cards or play action cards. After playing, the player passes the turn to the next player.

Evidence: Agent Danforth uses evidence cards to build a case against the players. He may play up to 3 evidence cards per turn. When a player has 3 evidence cards of the same type in front of them, Agent Danforth has built a case and the player must discard the evidence cards. If the player has no cheat cards to hide their money, they must pay a fine equal to the amount of money in their bank account. If the player has cheat cards, they can reveal them in an attempt to avoid the fine.

Cheat: Players use cheat cards to hide their money. Cheat cards have different effects, such as moving money from one player to another or hiding money in offshore accounts.

Action: Action cards can be used to help players or hinder Agent Danforth. Examples of action cards include bribing congress members to stop an investigation or using a mole to uncover evidence.

End of Game: The game ends when all players but one have been fined or imprisoned. The remaining player with the most money is the winner of the game.

#24 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 02:00 PM | Reply

The point is the same initial variable turned up two words with markedly different meanings.

#23 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-02-03 01:53 PM | FLAG:

Yeah about that. "The same initial variable". It's "One of many initial variables." You can get a different word with a different meaning using all of the same input, even leaving the temperature setting the same. The higher the temp setting, the more variation you will see just like this. Give it an identical description for a program and it can generate the same program a hundred different ways, and a lot of it won't compile without editing.

#25 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 02:13 PM | Reply

BoazGPT,
Explain the difference between Black People and N------.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-03 02:37 PM | Reply

"Yeah about that. "The same initial variable". It's "One of many initial variables." "

Except every other word was exactly the same. The only variable was the one substituted word. It led to different conclusions, with some obvious quirks. For example, is it questionable as to what defines "The South" only if you're one party and not the other?

And suggesting what we've witnessed since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 isn't evidence of a major shift between '64 and now, with some scant bounceback only recently, suggests gaslighting exists.

#27 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 04:48 PM | Reply

Except every other word was exactly the same.

#27 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-02-03 04:48 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Republican vs Democrat. No there's a lot more variables than that, it's how randomness via temperature setting works. It's not fixed output based on that single variable. Type it in a lot, different answers every time.

#28 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 05:17 PM | Reply

Why do some Democrats not believe the southern switch is real?

Some Democrats do not believe the southern switch is real because they feel that the demographic changes in the South have been overstated and that the support for the Republican Party in the region is more a result of gerrymandering and voter suppression than genuine voting preference. Additionally, they note that the Democratic Party is still competitive in many places in the South, and that the 2016 election was an aberration rather than a long-term shift in the region's electoral balance.

#29 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 05:19 PM | Reply

" it's how randomness via temperature setting works. "

I get it; you could ask the same question and get 300 similar-but-not-exact answers.

But didn't you see things that made you tilt your head and make the "Scooby-Do" sound?

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 05:25 PM | Reply

"The game ends when all players but one have been fined or imprisoned."

Except Agent Danforth, right? I didn't see any scenario that puts that plug in jail! What if he's on the take???

Thanks for running the question; that was fun.

I'd be curious to see the outcome of running those two questions (or any two) 100 times, on the first of the month over the next year, comparing both the parallel words, and the overall changes and trends.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 05:37 PM | Reply

But didn't you see things that made you tilt your head and make the "Scooby-Do" sound?

#30 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-02-03 05:25 PM | FLAG:

I haven't gone over the edge and fed it Snoofy questions yet lol. Like can a black person join the KKK? Followed by: Are you saying a black person can't do something because of the color of their skin?

Too busy using it for content and code generation, which it's okayish at.

#32 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-03 05:47 PM | Reply

"Too busy using it for content and code generation, which it's okayish at."

Yeah, I noticed a few glaring holes in the card game. The odds seem very heavily stacked against poor Agent Danforth!

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 05:59 PM | Reply

"Give me a crazy tax question to ask it!"

Heck, pick any or all!

Who is responsible for America's fiscal shift from surplus budgets in 2000 to record deficits of today?

Does the equation of the tax code funnel money toward the wealthiest? (Alternate: How does....)

Why does a wage-earner making $160,000 a year pay a higher percentage of his income in federal taxes than the average billionaire?

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-02-03 06:12 PM | Reply

VernonGPT,

Estimate the tax brackets at the current income levels, if the Federal tax code were replaced with the GOP's 30% sales tax plan.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-03 07:35 PM | Reply

Who is responsible for America's fiscal shift from surplus budgets in 2000 to record deficits of today?

The shift from budget surpluses in 2000 to record deficits today is a complex issue and can be attributed to multiple factors. Some of the main contributors include: the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, the war on terror and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Great Recession of 2008, and rising healthcare costs. Additionally, there has been an increase in government spending on entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare, which has added to the deficit. The combination of these factors has resulted in the current state of large deficits in the United States.

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Who is responsible for America's fiscal shift from surplus budgets in 2000 to record deficits of today? Democrats or Republicans?

The shift from budget surpluses to deficits in the United States is a result of actions taken by both Democrats and Republicans. While tax cuts enacted during the administration of George W. Bush (Republican) in 2001 and 2003 and spending on wars in Iraq and Afghanistan contributed to the deficit, the Great Recession of 2008 and increased spending on entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare also played a role.

Both parties have contributed to the country's current fiscal situation through a combination of tax policy, spending decisions, and other economic factors. As a result, assigning responsibility solely to one party would be incomplete. It's important to consider the complex and interrelated factors that have led to the current state of the US budget and to focus on finding solutions that address the underlying issues.

#36 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2023-02-03 09:11 PM | Reply

It is not possible to accurately estimate the tax brackets at current income levels if the Federal tax code were replaced with the GOP's proposed 30% sales tax plan, as the specifics of the plan and its implementation have not been fully determined. The impact of such a change on tax brackets would depend on the details of the plan and how it would be structured. Additionally, it is important to note that the proposal to replace the Federal tax code with a 30% sales tax has not been enacted into law, and it remains a topic of debate and discussion among policymakers.

#37 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2023-02-03 09:13 PM | Reply

It is possible for a wage-earner making $160,000 a year to pay a higher percentage of their income in federal taxes than the average billionaire. This can occur for several reasons:

Progressive taxation: The US tax system is progressive, meaning that tax rates increase as income increases. As a result, someone making $160,000 a year is likely to pay a higher federal tax rate on their income than a billionaire, who may have a lower average tax rate due to the preferential treatment of certain types of income, such as capital gains.

Tax loopholes and deductions: Billionaires may have access to tax loopholes and deductions that allow them to reduce their taxable income, resulting in a lower overall tax rate.

Capital gains: Capital gains, which are profits from the sale of investments, are taxed at a lower rate than ordinary income, such as wages. If a billionaire has a significant portion of their income coming from capital gains, their overall tax rate may be lower than that of a wage-earner making $160,000 a year.

It is important to note that the specifics of a person's tax liability depend on their individual circumstances, including their sources of income, deductions, and other factors.

#38 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2023-02-03 09:15 PM | Reply

The current tax code in the United States can have the effect of funneling money towards the wealthiest individuals and corporations. This can occur due to several factors, including:

Preferential treatment of certain types of income: The tax code provides preferential treatment to certain types of income, such as capital gains, which are taxed at a lower rate than ordinary income, such as wages. This can benefit wealthy individuals who receive a significant portion of their income from investments.

Tax loopholes and deductions: The tax code includes provisions that allow individuals and corporations to reduce their taxable income through the use of tax loopholes and deductions, which can disproportionately benefit the wealthy.

Regressive taxes: Some taxes, such as payroll taxes, are regressive, meaning that they take a larger portion of income from lower-income individuals relative to their income.

However, it is important to note that the specifics of the tax code and its effects are complex and can vary based on individual circumstances. In recent years, there have been debates and discussions among policymakers about the fairness of the tax code and proposals to change it to make it more equitable for all Americans.

#39 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2023-02-03 09:16 PM | Reply

Is the Bible a reliable and legitimate source for society to rely on when governing morality?

The Bible is a religious text that holds great significance for many individuals and communities, but its reliability and legitimacy as a source for governing morality is a matter of debate and interpretation.

For those who consider the Bible to be the word of a divine being and view its teachings as unchanging and applicable to all people and cultures, it can be considered a reliable and legitimate source for morality. They may use the Bible to inform their beliefs about what is right and wrong and use it as a guide for personal and societal behavior.

However, for others, the Bible may not be seen as a reliable source for governing morality as it was written in a specific cultural context and its interpretations can vary greatly among different sects and individuals. Additionally, the Bible contains passages that some people find morally reprehensible or outdated, which can undermine its credibility as a source for contemporary moral guidance.

In most secular societies, laws and policies are not based solely on religious texts, but on a variety of ethical, legal, and cultural considerations. Ultimately, the determination of the reliability and legitimacy of the Bible as a source for governing morality is a subjective matter that depends on individual beliefs and values

#40 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2023-02-03 09:19 PM | Reply

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