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#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-04 11:51 AM
They're not sending ATACMS or anything with significant range.

Unfortunately. ATACMS would be really helpful, a game-changer in taking back Crimea, with fewer casualties.

PATRIOTS are coming slowly; hopefully in time for North and East theaters. Abrams are coming very slowly, but just the fact they're finally coming is forcing Putin to rush an offensive before he has the forces trained and equipped to do it effectively - so more "meat waves," more "meatballs" sent back as "Cargo 200."

GLSDB range is around 95 miles depending on the wind. This effectively doubles what HIMARS can do, but not deep strike into Russia.

This could be another game-changer if used properly - the beautiful thing about this Saab-Boeing munition is not just the longer distance (94m spec) but extreme accuracy and equal ability to destroy soft and hardened targets, with flexibility of 360-degree targeting and anti-jam GPS and laser guidance, and it's MLRS.

This could be used sparingly just to target HVTs, like ammo depots or officers quarters in conjunction with areal reconnaissance, or possibly even HUMINT from mobiks who don't want to be cannon fodder or shot by their commanders.
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#8 | Posted by wolfdog at 2023-02-04 11:09 AM

We are on a collision course with a NUCLEAR war... yada-yada-yada... With the thousands of NUCLEAR missiles Russia has -- some HYPERSONIC -- yada-yada-yada... NUCLEAR war.

We can deal with your NUCLEAR and HYPERSONICs. Now, if you had a HYPERSUPERDUPERSONIC weapons, it would be a different story, but our intel shows you are a long way from those. So, no biggie, just chihuahuas barking.

That's what you get for electing old and ancient people [with Napoleon complex / small man syndrome] for President who think it is 1941.

Yep, Comrade wolfdog, very perceptive, that's what you got yourself... Unhappy 70th, Vlad-Vlad the Blood Putin.

Your people chose poorly, he reminds everyone of Saddam Hussein and his threats of "Mother of all Wars." Y'all are just little "Baghdad Bobs" and "Tokyo Rose" / "Lord Hee-Haw" / "Axis Sally" wannabes making few rubles. Enjoy while it lasts.

BTW, what would happen to your jobs if your boss Yevgeny Prigozhin goes before Vlad does?
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#2 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2023-02-04 12:00 AM
#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2023-02-04 11:46 PM

...the little turd will start WW3

The only turd capable to start WW3 is Vlad-Vlad the Blood. And ---------- is a Big Turd, and let too many of his so-called "red lines" slip already because he knows that if NATO+ gets involved "directly" it will be a quick end of his and his dreams of "glorious Russian federation" and he'll be forever known in history as the Biggest Loser, the Little Vlad Who Lost Russia.

The Ukrainians can't win without NATO. They know it too.

So? That's why NATO+ is providing them with, so far, a very limited support.

Zelinsky will do anything to keep the gravy train Rolling.

When your city or cities and civilian targets will start getting bombed, your women raped and children kidnapped, your grain and natural resources pillaged and stolen - THEN you can talk about "GRAVY TRAIN."

Until then, stop being "a little turd" and go back to be a good little amusing chatbot that we all knew and "loved" to tolerate and have fun with.

Russia will likely retain the Donbass,and Ukraine will not join NATO. That my friend,is called Russian victory.

Except for Comrade wolfdog, you hardly have any "friends" here. We are just curious to know what's in Prigozhin's and his serfs' little heads.

Re retaining Donbass and "Russian victory" - that's what your boss Yevgeny Prigozhin recently called "erotic fantasies."

"Verbose" enough for you to understand?
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Putin's decided he wants a 200 mile wide Nature Preserve between Ukraine and Russia

That could be arranged, once Russia is pushed out of Donbass and 1994 / pre-2014 borders are restored.

Russia has too much useless land and useless people - maybe time has come for "Potemkin Natural Preserve" north and east of Ukraine.
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CutiePie why you talk so much?

Had a little time, so used it to remind some little turd to tone it down and stop picking up some bad habits / words.

You?
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#30 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-05 08:33 AM
It has potential...

Yeah, it's slower, but kind of an ingenious and cheap way to reuse old ammo with new capabilities ("reverse-slope" etc.) and they can use existing HIMARS to launch them.

... but the Pantsir S1 has already shot them out of the sky in Libya.

Like I said, when opportunities "strike," so to speak.
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If you can make the Orcs spend a 40N6 (GRENDEL) missile from an SA-21 to shoot down an SDB...it's a win. SDBs are almost like JDAM in numbers. You either use them or pay a lot of money to demil them.

Win-win, of course, and also a matter of terrain and climate - Libya's are very different from Ukraine's, especially Crimean mountains. With all-weather 3ft/1m precision capabilities, launching multiple SDBs against HVTs almost guarantees success.

Now, only if they can get it deployed fast.

Like a short-range alternative to "kamikaze" Shaheds-136/Geran-2, only against protected military targets?

Cheap'n'good!
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So long as the Orcs are not using GPS jammers.

Due to slower speed, they are more vulnerable on flat terrain in a long flight; they do however have anti-GPS-jamming capability as well as laser guidance.

* The GLSDB offers high-lethality, increased range and high-manoeuvrability. It has the ability to defeat soft and hard skin threats, targets behind the launcher, as well as hard-to-reach targets. ... It has terrain avoidance, cave breaching and reverse slope engagement capabilities.


The bomb can be launched from hidden or protected rocket-launching sites to avoid detection by the enemy forces, engage targets in 360-degrees and is accurate to strike targets within 1m. ... The guidance section also comprises a GPS receiver with anti-jam capability, selective availability and an anti-spoofing module (SAASM) ...


The weapon uses an integrated electronic safe or arm fuse system (ESAF) with two function settings, impact and delay, to provide deep penetration or accurate proximity height-of-burst, with low collateral damage.

Nothing is perfect, but for cheap munitions, this could find a lot of good uses - to overwhelm HVT's defenses, for example.
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... scalable options on the JDAM family of weapons. I'm particularly interested in their counter-ship variant

Yeah, this entire class of "hybrid" weapons can replace many of much more sophisticated missiles, of course, considering the shorter range and/or speed capabilities... but often that's all that is needed, and can be sent from multiple directions.
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