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Tuesday, February 07, 2023

After trying to dissolve Disney's special taxing district last year, Republican lawmakers on Monday released a new plan: Rename the district and let Gov. Ron DeSantis choose the people in charge.

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...Under House Bill 9B, released Monday afternoon, the Reedy Creek Improvement District will become the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District within two years.

And instead of Disney controlling the district, the district's five board members will be appointed by the governor and approved by the state Senate.

The legislation is the latest twist in DeSantis' clash with The Walt Disney Co. after the company opposed Florida's Parental Rights in Education legislation last year, called the "don't say gay" bill by critics....


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-02-07 11:35 AM | Reply

Enjoy your $1,000,000,000 in new debt Floriduh taxpayers.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2023-02-07 11:43 AM | Reply

Leopards ate my Face!

Disney backed Florida Republicans for decades. And then this happens.

Good job, Disney.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-02-07 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When you can't win the game, stack the deck.

It's the Florida Man Gov way.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2023-02-07 11:47 AM | Reply

Getting ready for the shakedown.

#5 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-02-07 01:20 PM | Reply

Now this is the kind of Small Government conservatives can really get behind.

Conservatives love it that when the government micromanages major corporations!

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-07 04:35 PM | Reply

Florida's biggest employer. Good luck with that, Ronnie.

#7 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-02-07 09:12 PM | Reply

DeathSantis is trying to fark Disney like it was a drunk high-schooler.

#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2023-02-07 09:15 PM | Reply

This is just effen goofy.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-02-08 05:58 AM | Reply

"We want in on the state handouts to corps!" signed with politicians who gave it to them.

#10 | Posted by Brennnn at 2023-02-08 07:08 AM | Reply

Does Disney actually make money on Disney World?

I'd have to imagine their other lines of business offer greater return and ROI.

It would be great to see Disney abandon the site and let that be the legacy of Republican leadership.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-08 09:19 AM | Reply

47 square miles of prime real-estate, including a private community of multi-million dollar homes for those that are super fans and had to live in a Disney community. There are currently two previously owned homes available if you're interested. The Villa Firenze at 4,999,999 and The Berkeley at 9,500,000

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2023-02-08 09:41 AM | Reply

20 million a day for the Disney parks in Orlando area. Not sure what their operating expenses are, though.

#13 | Posted by YAV at 2023-02-08 09:43 AM | Reply

$28 billion a year revenue generated on all of the Disney parks combined. It's a pretty big deal.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-08 10:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"47 square miles of prime real-estate"

It's gonna be a lot less prime once the new management takes over.
Like The Villages with their 25% property tax hike.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-08 11:01 AM | Reply

This is all a money grab. Once the GOP in Florida has control of the parks they will be able to extort far more money than they ever dreamed possible. Seems like a move The Godfather might make.

#16 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-02-08 12:51 PM | Reply

It's gonna be a lot less prime once the new management takes over.
Like The Villages with their 25% property tax hike.

#15 | Posted by snoofy

Read about the vendetta DeSantis got himself involved in regarding that tax hike. It's like a novel about GOP political corruption.

A 72-year-old retiree - who helps anyone and everyone he can - was convicted of felony perjury after his wife sought to bring a "no kill shelter" to The Villages. The facts behind that miscarriage of justice reek of DeSantis & Co. right wing minions who're in bed with The Villages developers, who also publish "The Daily Sun" and blast FoxNews over speakers throughout The Villages.

The Villages elected 3 residents (including 72-year-old mentioned above) to take over the commission after that tax hike. They wanted businesses who profited off of the Villages to pay their fair share instead of hiking taxes on retirees living on fixed incomes. DeSantis & Co. got them thrown off the commission and replaced by DeSantis' hand picked choices.

The Villages Vendetta - How the grassroots revolt ended up with a 72-year-old political prisoner

The trouble began in 2019 when residents of The Villages were suddenly hit with a 25 percent hike in their property taxes. In the master-planned retirement community of 130,000 across Sumter, Lake, and Marion counties in central Florida, many are on fixed incomes. The math they had done in plotting out their golden years had not accounted for a massive jump in taxes.

If the new taxes were intended to cover new amenities or upgrades for the Villagers, perhaps a hike would be worth the sacrifice. But the money was instead destined to subsidize further sprawl south of The Villages, ultimately benefitting the entity known locally either as "the developer" or "the family," which could then escape paying the fees associated with the impact of their development.

theintercept.com


#17 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-02-08 02:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Speaking of which:

The funniest thing about the mainstream GOP push to paint Ron as the "reasonable" alternative to Trump is that DeSicko's whole deal is pandering to the most depraved and deranged bathroom warriors. Books are out, mandatory ------- inspections are in!- Rhonda Santis (@lib_crusher) February 7, 2023

#18 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-02-08 02:42 PM | Reply

#17 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

They will whine a little about the tax hikes and then vote Republican again. It's political dementia.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-02-08 04:50 PM | Reply

Disney can give Desanctimonious the finger and walk away from Florida and still survive but no so sure Florida's economy would survive the hit. Desanctimonious is playing with fire.Desanctimonious is a closet Nazi. Come out of the closet Desanctimonious!

#20 | Posted by danni at 2023-02-09 06:21 AM | Reply

Shame Disney lied about the utility district to begin with. Got a neighborhood for billionaires instead of techtopia and Epcot is just the park you go to for alcohol.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-09 06:59 AM | Reply

You can get alcohol in any of the parks.
The original EPCOT was something I really wanted to see happen, but it was way too big a dream.
It became Celebration.
Disney's looking at lower cost housing community now.
I can tell you Disney's viewed as one hell of an awesome neighbor in Central Florida.
As far as lying about the utility district, you'd need to cite that because no one here has ever said anything like that.
The only one lying is the State of Florida.

#22 | Posted by YAV at 2023-02-09 07:08 AM | Reply

I actually lived in Orlando when Disney first broke ground in, what back then was known as, Kissimmee. That project changed Floeida in such a signigicant way that Desanctimonious's attacks should be vuewed as attacks on the Florida economy purely for his own political ambitions. The Florida economy depends on Disney! There is just no argument against that. Desanctimonious plays with Florida jobs because he has already moved his Presidential campaign beyond our state. His ambitions have been obvious to us all for a long time. Being our Goverbor just provided him a playform to grandstand on. I'd actually prefer Trump over Desanctimonious. I really do mean that.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2023-02-09 07:41 AM | Reply

As far as lying about the utility district, you'd need to cite that because no one here has ever said anything like that.

#22 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2023-02-09 07:08 AM | FLAG:

The independent district was pitched with Epcot being a tech city, the original Silicon Valley, which was why the utility district was necessary. They were going to be living so far in the future that state & federal regs would never keep up and they had to be free to innovate.

Then none of that happened and it became an corporation wielding government powers all the way down to policing.

That's the lie.

#24 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-09 07:58 AM | Reply

DANNI

"I'd actually prefer Trump over Desanctimonious. "

I wouldn't go quite that far but I do agree, DeSantis is just a cleaned up version of Trump.

The pitfall with voting for Trump is that he still has the support of an army of terrorist thugs who have been brainwashed to the point of dying or going to prison for him. They have their fingers on the trigger ~ locked and loaded ~ waiting for Trump to give them the nod.

They're not likely to switch allegiance to DeSantis. If DeSantis wants to burn the country down so a dictator can arise from the ashes like some sort of Phoenix, he's not going to have the threat of domestic terrorism to have his back.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-02-09 08:00 AM | Reply

No, Sitz. That's not correct. "Progress City" (EPCOT)was Walt's dream, and it died with him in 1966.
Residential communities were (and are) part of the reason for RCID and that continues today and do exist on property and as Celebration with new communities being evaluated, mostly due to the lack of inventory for low-cost housing in Central Florida.

I really wanted EPCOT to be what Disney originally envisioned, though. I still remember begging to go to Lake Buena Vista to look at the models and watch the presentations. As a little boy, it was awesome!

From the legislation that created the RCID in 1967:

"WHEREAS, in order to assure the future welfare and continued prosperity of Florida and its people, Florida must continue to attract temporary visitors, permanent residents and new industries and offer to the public outstanding vacation, sports and recreation facilities and residential communities; and

WHEREAS, in light of the recent advances in technology and the rapidly increasing speed and capacity of modern air carriers, which have made accessible and led to the development many new year-round resorts and recreation-oriented communities in other states and parts of the world that vie with Florida for the tourist trade, the maintenance of Florida's prosperity and its leadership as a tourist state make it imperative that appropriate measures be taken to promote the conservation of natural resources and attractions, the creation of vacation, sports and recreation facilities and residential communities of high quality and the utilization of the many technological advances achieved by American industry in developing new concepts in community living and recreation; and

WHEREAS, the conservation of natural resources and attractions, the creation of favorable conditions for the development of high-quality vacation, sports and recreation facilities and residential communities and the utilization of new concepts, ideas, designs and technological advances in the establishment of such facilities and communities are valid public purposes and the legitimate concern of special taxing districts created for that purpose; and..."

www.rcid.org

The history of Reedy Creek Improvement District:

www.rcid.org
www.rcid.org

#26 | Posted by YAV at 2023-02-09 09:13 AM | Reply

No, Sitz. That's not correct. "Progress City" (EPCOT)was Walt's dream, and it died with him in 1966.

#26 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2023-02-09 09:13 AM | FLAG:

Disney isn't stupid and created the CCDD which actually runs Celebration despite it being in RCID so they could divest themselves of the expensive of running a 10,000 person city.

#27 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-09 09:29 AM | Reply

You are correct. Celebration has, as a result, moved from Disney's control.

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2023-02-09 09:34 AM | Reply

It's almost as if a multi-billion dollar has an army of economists and lawyers to leverage laws towards their financial supremacy. Not that it excuses what Republicans are doing, but RCID should command healthy skepticism.

My youth story from Disney is at least 1 or 2 kids from my ag class getting arrested by Disney Police every year on the annual field trip. They'd be disappeared underground, then the teachers would abandon them and make the parents drive 3 hours from Tampa to come get them.

#29 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-09 09:38 AM | Reply

Back in the days before you took a good look around and realized how racist a lot of the stuff in the Magic Kingdom is...

#30 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-09 09:40 AM | Reply

-I wouldn't go quite that far but I do agree, DeSantis is just a cleaned up version of Trump.

Don't fight it. Just allow yourself to accept that DeSantis is worse.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2023-02-09 09:40 AM | Reply

Back in the days before you took a good look around and realized how racist a lot of the stuff in the Magic Kingdom is...

All of Disney was. Walt Disney was. Florida was. It was a different time when it was first built.

It's VASTLY different now and that is the source of all the screaming about it being "WOKE." I applaud Disney. It is a place everyone can go to and enjoy, except for maybe the super anti-woke crowd. Then it's a constant reminder of diversity and multiculturalism.

And that's a burn the Governor of Florida can't stand feeling - and he voices it for all those like him.

#32 | Posted by YAV at 2023-02-09 09:45 AM | Reply

"except for maybe the super anti-woke crowd"

Republicans have been successfully using folks like that to assign extremism to the entire Democratic party to scare republicans for a long time.

IOW, DeSantis loves those folks.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2023-02-09 09:50 AM | Reply

Yes he does.
The super anti-woke's kids still love Disney, though...

#34 | Posted by YAV at 2023-02-09 10:04 AM | Reply

I applaud Disney.

#32 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2023-02-09 09:45 AM | FLAG:

Nuts are on the Internet trying to sell bottled water from Splash Mountain, before the Tiana bayou reboot. It's a great refresh for the ride and is perfect thematically.

#35 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-09 10:04 AM | Reply

It was a different time when it was first built.

#32 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2023-02-09 09:45 AM | FLAG:

Before my time for sure, but on Defunctland (a YT series about theme parks & rides) I saw there used to be an NRA exhibit.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-09 10:06 AM | Reply

Interesting. I didn't find that, but I did find this:
Frontierland - Davy Crockett museum sponsorship
d23.com

#37 | Posted by YAV at 2023-02-09 10:08 AM | Reply

It was at Disneyland not World iirc. The Frontier Rifle Exhibit or something like that. There used to be Dow Chemical Plastics exhibits and all kinds of stuff that was futuristic for its time.

#38 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-02-09 10:21 AM | Reply

Disney can give Desanctimonious the finger and walk away from Florida and still survive

Why would they? DeSantis' anti-woke publicity stunt will relieve Disney of $1B in bond debt and stick taxpayers with the bill, and will also require them to provide the infrastructure, utilities and emergency services that Disney currently provides itself.

Steep price just to own the libs, but since that's the only policy priority Republicans have, they'll be fully on board.

#39 | Posted by JOE at 2023-02-09 11:36 AM | Reply

-Disney can give Desanctimonious the finger and walk away from Florida and still survive

Admittingly, I'm stealing this from 39 so I don't know who posted it.

Like hell Disney can walk away from Florida.

And even if it came to that.....much easier to take care of DeSantis.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2023-02-09 11:46 AM | Reply

I'm betting Disney, who has been through many governors and many legislatures, will wait it out.

#41 | Posted by YAV at 2023-02-09 12:16 PM | Reply

I said it before, Disney should buy up a bunch of property in Puerto Rico which they could probably buy for a song, turn the island into a vacation paradise, and abandon a state whose politics have obviously become poison to free enterprise and free speech. I'd love to see what DeathSantis would do if Disney quietly up and left, started closing hotels and parts of the park, and then all of a sudden it's gone. Floriduh's largest employer disappears poof. Thanks to short Trump, and his small-minded petulance.

#42 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2023-02-09 03:10 PM | Reply

I have a feeling that taking in WDW won't end well for Florida, either short or long term.

#43 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2023-02-09 05:26 PM | Reply

"DeSantis' anti-woke publicity stunt will relieve Disney of $1B in bond debt and stick taxpayers with the bill"

^
You really don't think this will just be passed back to Disney's customers in the form of a special tax on amusement park tickets?

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-09 05:34 PM | Reply

I have a feeling that taking in WDW won't end well for Florida, either short or long term.
#43 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

^
It's not supposed to end well for Florida.
It's supposed to end well for DeSantis and the Anti-Woke Movement.
You remember that movement. You were a huge cheerleader for it in 2016.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-02-09 05:36 PM | Reply

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