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Thursday, March 16, 2023

A special prosecutor who doubles as a state legislator is stepping down from her role in the manslaughter case against actor Alec Baldwin in the death of a cinematographer on a New Mexico film set.

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Smells like corruption.

#1 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-03-16 12:07 PM | Reply

Smells like money wins every time.

#2 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2023-03-16 12:08 PM | Reply

A highly unusual role for this lady to fill, and sensible that she was talked out of it. Of course, prosecuting the Woke Mob for crimes against humanity will have to wait for another day...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2023-03-16 12:50 PM | Reply

Defense lawyer:
How did the live round get to the set? (Answer: We don't know, but clearly not by Baldwin)
How did the live round get into the gun? (We don't know, but clearly not by Baldwin)
Why did Baldwin believe the gun was cold? (It was proactively yelled "cold" in front of multiple witnesses)
Who yelled "cold"? (The guy who handed him the gun.)
What did the guy in charge of safety do? (He WAS the head of safety.)
What happened to him? (He pleaded guilty.)
Any memorable lines from his trial? (I checked the gun, I just didn't check all the cylinders)

(long silence)

Last question: Why TF are we here?

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-16 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I have no feelings one way or another as whether or not Mr. Baldwin should be convicted. So long as it is clean, non-political, fair and normal jury trial, I am fine with either result. But I do agree that it is important that there not be any appearance of prosecutorial impropriety in this case.

#5 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-03-16 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Definitely shouldn't be convicted. You play with guns, sometimes somebody dies, it's the cost of admission.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-03-16 01:32 PM | Reply

The REPUBLICAN special prosecutor stepped down. Is this the same woman who also charged him for a crime that wasn't a crime when that gun went off? She was prosecuting him for something that wasn't illegal at the time, that we all learned in grammar school is something you can't do. So is this the same incompetent woman who did that? I already said she was Republican, so I guess I'm answering my own question.

#7 | Posted by prius04 at 2023-03-16 08:51 PM | Reply

"You play with guns, sometimes somebody dies, it's the cost of admission."

Folks die from bungee jumps when the ropes aren't secured properly.

And who makes the call on whether the ropes are secured properly or not? The expert on the scene hired specifically for the job, or whatever rando is next in line?

Call me crazy, but I'd trust the professionals, knowing while there are the extremely rare accidents, it's still MUCH SAFER to trust the professionals, and the stats on sets with guns bear me out.

For example, when was the last time you remember a story about an on-set shooting with a gun...Brandon Lee? And that was wadding. When was the last bullet?

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-16 10:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rich people shouldn't get away with murder - unless its an uber wealthy hollywood leftist.

#9 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2023-03-16 10:55 PM | Reply

@#8 ... Call me crazy, but I'd trust the professionals ...

Yeah, I agree with your comment.

But I also have a question, one that I have been asking since the beginning of this disaster....

How did that loaded gun get on to the set?

How did a loaded gun get in to the studio area?

In my view, someone had to know that the ammo was live.

Who may have known that?

And the big question.... was it intentional for live ammo to be on the set?

So far, I've not seen anything even remotely resembling an answer to those questions.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-16 11:16 PM | Reply

"So far, I've not seen anything even remotely resembling an answer to those questions."

Nor have I. Maybe same with the special prosecutor.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-16 11:48 PM | Reply

@#11 ... Maybe same with the special prosecutor. ...

Yeah.

So how the live ammo got onto the set may be quite well hidden.

imo, that is not A Good Thing.

For example, anyone now working on set with a supposedly "dead" gun will have to worry about being shot and killed.

With no one held accountable.

I can see the want ads now...

...
Actress/Actor wanted -

Must be able to look into a gun and, not knowing whether or not that gun is loaded with live ammo, be able to fulfill the role to complete the shooting scene.

...


Yeah, that works....

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#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-17 12:01 AM | Reply

#8 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-03-16 10:08 PM | FLAG:

Funny you should frame it that way. I did bungee jump, when I was young and stupid and didn't know better. I have seen things that give me zero faith in the bungee operators despite their "expertise".

Just as I'm not working at any place that plays with guns. If I was somehow forced to, and the alleged expert takes the guns out of the workplace to go play with them, and engages in behavior that makes even non-gun owners question what's going on, I'm going to very, very loudly, in a way that gets me fired, demolish this alleged expert.

Anybody that tells somebody to stand down range of a gun is not an expert. But since you all agreed to play with guns, if somebody dies they die. Time to move on.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-03-17 09:10 AM | Reply

The fact that this had a Special Prosecutor is ridiculous.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-17 09:17 AM | Reply

For example, when was the last time you remember a story about an on-set shooting with a gun...Brandon Lee? And that was wadding. When was the last bullet?

#8 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-03-16 10:08 PM | FLAG:

Just counting stuff since Y2K? I asked ChatGPT and was informed of Expendables 2 with a fatality. Firearm injuries occurring in Hunger Games, Lone Ranger, Expendables 1, Expendables 3, Hateful Eight, Dark Knight, Great Wall, Saving Private Ryan, The Patriot, LOTR: Return of the King, LOTR: Two Towers, The Revenant, Matrix Reloaded, Hunger Games: Catching Fire, Dark Knight, Hangover Part 2, and Jack Reacher. Apparently quite a number of people have also suffered firearm injuries in TV production.

#15 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-03-17 09:30 AM | Reply

as a practical matter, if the protocol has a person stand downrange of a firearm to film it, in the digital age, you should question that particular protocol. Take a cue from Mythbusters and remotely view it.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-03-17 09:32 AM | Reply

oh and Tom Sizemore negligently discharged a round that almost shot an extra in the head on Saving Private Ryan. That was just luck it missed and we're not calling getting Baldwin'd getting Sizemore'd.

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-03-17 09:35 AM | Reply

"I asked ChatGPT and was informed of... LOTR: Return of the King, LOTR: Two Towers..."

Firearm injuries?

#18 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2023-03-17 09:48 AM | Reply

You don't remember aragorns sword-anduril 9mm?

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-17 09:52 AM | Reply

What happened to him? (He pleaded guilty.)

Did you know that more than one person can be charged and held responsible for their role in someone's death? Your remarks make it sound like you don't know that, or intend for other people not to know.

And who makes the call on whether the ropes are secured properly or not? The expert on the scene hired specifically for the job, or whatever rando is next in line?

Why do you so consistently ignore the fact that (1) Baldwin, as producer, intentionally hired an inexperienced armoredr, (2) that there were multiple gun misfirings on set prior to Hutchins' death, and that a half dozen crew members walked off set in protest over safety conditions just hours before Hutchins' death?

This is not analogous to a case where someone with zero responsibility over the situation just wandered into a scenario he could reasonably believe was safe. Your analogies are reckless.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2023-03-17 10:11 AM | Reply

If we're going to use bungee jumping as an analogy, then let's make it truly analogous:

-Baldwin, in charge of the bungee excursion, intentionally hires inexperienced bungee crew on the cheap
-More than one bungee accident occurs yet Baldwin presses on with the bungee excursion
-Several members of bungee crew walk out in protest prior to Hutchins bungee jumping
-An inexperienced assistant director (not even the head of bungee crew) tells Baldwin the ropes are safe, *in the context of all of the above,* then Baldwin pushes Hutchins off the plane, and her ropes break

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2023-03-17 10:15 AM | Reply

Firearm injuries?

#18 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE AT 2023-03-17 09:48 AM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

You don't remember aragorns sword-anduril 9mm?

#19 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2023-03-17 09:52 AM | FLAG:

Yes, hilariously. The only logical thing is scaring off some wildlife before filming. Filmed in a country with what's now very strict gun control.

#22 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-03-17 10:27 AM | Reply

For example, when was the last time you remember a story about an on-set shooting with a gun...Brandon Lee? And that was wadding. When was the last bullet?

#8 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2023-03-16 10:08 PM | FLAG:

btw it wasn't wadding. An inactivated round, called "dummy round" misleadingly but is a real cartridge with a real bullet, but fake primer and no powder went into a gun. When the cartridge was removed the bullet stayed because it wasn't crimped well because it was meant to be fake. A "blank" cartridge containing a full load of gunpowder and a primer then went into the gun, assembling a cartridge in the gun, which worked exactly like they're supposed to just at a slightly lower than usual velocity from the lack of bullet to cartridge crimp.

Most film injuries apparently come from powder flash from blanks anyways. If you need the bolt to move for that hot slow motion shot you can 3d print internals and electrically actuate them quite safely. No need to use real guns in most instances in 2022. Add the flash in post.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-03-17 02:32 PM | Reply

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