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Saturday, March 18, 2023

Winter storms across California have significantly improved drought conditions and filled state reservoirs that had held less than a third of their capacity.

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Same thing in Lake Mead. I was in Vegas last week, and one of my co-workers told me that the lake was up by five feet, and expected to rise another five by summer.

I was skiing up in Lee Canyon in the Spring Mountains, about an hour west of Vegas, and they had a 217" base. I just checked the ski conditions and they are up to 232."

They are about to hit 20' for snow this season.

#1 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-03-17 05:43 PM | Reply

"See climate change isn't real! Going back and forth between droughts and floods is totally normal and not destructive in any way"
-morons

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-18 06:46 PM | Reply

It's quite abnormal to have this much rain and snow at this time of the year. I'm frankly just trying to focus on how nice it is to see reservoirs fill up.

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-18 06:51 PM | Reply

@#3 .. It's quite abnormal to have this much rain and snow at this time of the year. I'm frankly just trying to focus on how nice it is to see reservoirs fill up. ...

Yes, it is good to see the reservoirs have been filling up again.

But also do not forget that the farms of California also rely on the water table levels. And when it rains so much in such a short period of time, most tends to run off, not soak in. to raise the water tables

Also, too much rain is also a problem...

Floods fill some of California's summer strawberry fields
www.pbs.org

...As river water gushed through a broken levee, thousands of people in a California farming town were forced to evacuate as their homes were flooded and businesses destroyed.

Yet another potential casualty of the powerful rainstorms that drenched coastal California: hundreds of acres of fresh strawberries slated for America's supermarket shelves this summer.

Industry experts estimate about a fifth of strawberry farms in the Watsonville and Salinas areas have been flooded since the levee ruptured late Friday about 70 miles (110 kilometers) south of San Francisco and another river overflowed. It's too soon to know whether the berry plants can be recovered, but the longer they remain underwater the more challenging it can get, said Jeff Cardinale, a spokesperson for the California Strawberry Commission.

"When the water recedes, what does the field look like " if it is even a field anymore?" Cardinale said. "It could just be a muddy mess where there is nothing left."...


- also -

California scenes show devastation from flooding, sinkholes amid barrage of atmospheric rivers (January 2023)
www.foxweather.com

....Moisture from rounds of rain have created dangerous mudslides and sent trees sliding off mountain roads. California first responders have been busy rescuing people from sinkholes and flooding.

The onslaught of atmospheric rivers continues to pummel California this week, making roads impassable, creating massive sinkholes and dropping more than a foot of rain in some places.

California is in its third week in a row of heavy rain brought on by a series of back-to-back atmospheric rivers that kicked off right after Christmas. After the latest system passed, strong winds and intense rain continue with another atmospheric river forecast to arrive later this week. ...


Some videos and photos of the havoc wrought in the article....


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 07:03 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2023-03-18 06:46 PM | REPLY: Actually that has been the norm since an atmosphere formed on the planet and no amount of monies taken from people and businesses for governments, or the UN is going to change that. It is hubris to think otherwise.

#5 | Posted by MSgt at 2023-03-18 07:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

SPEAKSOFTLY, You have my permission to look up the vocabulary word 'hubris, as, like 'common sense', I doubt it is in your lexicon [you may have to look this one up also] ; )

#6 | Posted by MSgt at 2023-03-18 07:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Many of the right wingers were slamming the democrat governor of California for not capturing all the water coming down the Sierra Nevadas and if they did what the hicks wanted the dams would be bursting in the spring runoff causing havoc. The reservoir are pretty filled up now and this may still happen when that 30' of snow comes down. Now, LA and the other cities packed with developers seeking more riches can build more houses in their never ending quest of greed but California will probably go through another six year drought and then more problems with that.

#7 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2023-03-18 07:08 PM | Reply

@#5 ... Actually that has been the norm since an atmosphere formed on the planet ..

What, specifically has been the norm since an atmosphere has formed on the planet?

Please be specific. Links would be appreciated.


thx.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 07:19 PM | Reply

Same thing in Lake Mead. I was in Vegas last week, and one of my co-workers told me that the lake was up by five feet, and expected to rise another five by summer.

#1 | Posted by madbomber

The level of Lake Mead is the same as it was the first of the year. In fact, the level hasn't changed more than an inch or two since October of last year.

All of this Western rain and snow that we've had, appears to have not gotten past the Sierras. It's been a boon to the California reservoirs but the level of Lake Mead depends on what rain and snow falls in the Rockies.

OCU

#9 | Posted by OCUser at 2023-03-18 07:44 PM | Reply

...the level hasn't changed more than an inch or two since October of last year.

And that level is 15 feet below full pool. Lake Powell is 179 feet below full pool.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-03-18 08:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

SPEAKSOFTLY, You have my permission to look up the vocabulary word 'hubris, as, like 'common sense', I doubt it is in your lexicon [you may have to look this one up also] ; )

#6 | Posted by MSgt

I looked up hubris. It said: "The idea that humans rapidly releasing quantities of C02 unseen in human history won't affect the climate".

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-18 08:25 PM | Reply

#2 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2023-03-18 06:46 PM | REPLY: Actually that has been the norm since an atmosphere formed on the planet and no amount of monies taken from people and businesses for governments, or the UN is going to change that. It is hubris to think otherwise.

#5 | Posted by MSgt

Republicans in the 1980's: No amount of moneys taken from people and business will fix the hole in the ozone layer or make the air in los angeles less brown.

Good thing we didn't listen to them.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-18 08:27 PM | Reply

As of 4:00 PDT this afternoon, Lake Mead was 182.9 feet BELOW full pool.

mead.uslakes.info

OCU

#13 | Posted by OCUser at 2023-03-18 08:53 PM | Reply

182.9 feet BELOW full pool

My bad... I thought the chart was in inches.

#14 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-03-18 09:00 PM | Reply

as, like 'common sense', I doubt it is in your lexicon

The only people who regularly reach for the phrase common sense are incurious ----- who lack real knowledge and arguments.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-18 09:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9

OK.

I'm just repeating what a co-worker who lives in Vegas told me.

What I can attest to is that there is just shy of 20' of snow in the Spring Mountains at Lee Canyon, ~8k".

That is a lot of snow.

I was up there snowshoeing backing in January, and it was a bit nerve-wracking. Some dude had died in an avalanche a few days earlier. But In all fairness I am not aware of any river or stream that flows from the Spring Mountains into Lake Mead. I don't know where that water goes. Maybe into the Colorado somewhere downstream?

#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-03-19 02:01 AM | Reply

$2.7 billion bond fund to build water reservoirs sits idle in California

It's been seven years since drought-wracked California raked in $2.7 billion in bond funds that promised construction of reservoirs to capture excess water runoff during winters.

The money is sitting in a bank account without a single shovel of dirt overturned to begin construction of eight above-ground water holding facilities. Meanwhile, governors and local politicians over the years have called for urban water cutbacks and even rationing for farmers who have watched crops wither and die due to decreased water supply.
www.yahoo.com

California can't build anything. California will drain lake mead.

Yet at the same time.

DWR is maintaining releases from #LakeOroville to the Feather River at 35,000 cfs. These releases are being made in coordination with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers & downstream water operators for #flood control protection. DWR continues to closely monitor lake inflow levels
twitter.com

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-03-19 10:42 AM | Reply

Many of the right wingers were slamming the democrat governor of California for not capturing all the water coming down the Sierra Nevadas and if they did what the hicks wanted the dams would be bursting in the spring runoff causing havoc.

Probably just more Russian stooges trying to "steer the conversation".

Like the post above mine.

"2.7 billion bond fund to build water reservoirs sits idle in California"

Meanwhile the reservoirs are filling up and Oroville has resumed producing power.

And I can understand why nothing is getting done right now. It's kinda tough to build reservoirs in the middle of blinding snowstorms and floods and mudslides. Though of course the real reason is California's tough environmental regulations. We don't want to become like Ohio after all.

Anyway its been hard just keeping the roads open this winter much less build new reservoirs.

But they will get done. Patience grasshopper. It's not the same as building a football stadium. It's changing water flow which affects everything upstream and downstream.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-03-19 01:21 PM | Reply

California can't build anything.

#17 | Posted by oneironaut

Yeah besides the world's 5th largest economy.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-19 03:59 PM | Reply

#16 "I don't know where that water goes. Maybe into the Colorado somewhere downstream?"

Just looking at the google map the western slope of those mountains would drain into a sandy desert basin. The Eastern slope could drain into Lake Meade maybe and the Colorado from there.

"Las Vegas' Hydrographic Basin encompasses 1,600 square miles, a basin that is recharged through precipitation and snowmelt from the surrounding mountain ranges running from the Spring Mountains to the west, Frenchman Mountain to the East, the McCullough Range to the South, and the Sheep Range to the North. The entire basin drains through the Las Vegas Wash into Lake Mead."

#20 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2023-03-20 11:31 AM | Reply

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