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Friday, March 17, 2023

Law enforcement agencies are prepping for a possible Trump indictment as early as next week Multiple agencies are discussing potential security plans for in and around the Manhattan Criminal Court in case Trump is charged in connection with an alleged hush money payment to Stormy Daniels.

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"The agencies involved include the NYPD, New York State Court Officers, the U.S. Secret Service, the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, and the Manhattan District Attorney's Office, the officials said.

NBC News has reached out to all of those agencies for comment, and all have declined to comment.

Trump's attorney, Joe Tacopina, told NBC News that the former president will follow normal procedures if it gets to the point of having to surrender to authorities from the DA's office."

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Saw a clip of Joe "The Pudding" Tapioca looking like all the other idiot Trump attnys... even Fox was eating him alive.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2023-03-17 07:04 PM | Reply

Lol

#2 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-17 07:25 PM | Reply

LMFAO get real. He won't be indicted. Wishful thinking.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-03-17 09:19 PM | Reply

LET'S GET READY TO GET READY!!!!!

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-17 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This isn't going to be my favorite indictment of this long national nightmare's numerous upcoming indictments; campaign finance laws are notoriously less well written and enforced and punished as things like, oh, say, obstruction and sedition and stuff like that. And intentionally so.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2023-03-17 10:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

It's going to be my favorite.

paying hush money to a porn star in 2016 for 30 seconds of fun in 2006? thats hilarious.

#6 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-03-17 10:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

It is that. And then to have her talking about how it was what, the least exciting sex she's ever had?

That's gotta be one in about a million.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2023-03-17 10:19 PM | Reply

I'd love to see it happen.

But I'm just not in any way confident that it will at this point.

We've gone way past holding politicians responsible for anything.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-17 11:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"He won't be indicted."

Laura, I never would've said it before, but I will now:

I'd bet you on that.

#9 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-17 11:55 PM | Reply

And so the perpetual victim whines on the oxymoronically named platform "Truth Social."

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2023-03-18 08:40 AM | Reply

Not Garland, but ... . Still ... .

Everyone buckle up, this is going to be one HELL of a ride.

#11 | Posted by ABH at 2023-03-18 08:43 AM | Reply

Just had an off the wall thought: the Secret Service ... Is the government going to pay for them to work their shifts protecting him in jail????

#12 | Posted by ABH at 2023-03-18 08:48 AM | Reply

Trump said, without providing evidence, that "illegal leaks" from the Manhattan district attorney's office indicated that he would be arrested. He did not say what the charges would be.

The words "Trump said" are not usually associated with true statements. But in this instance, from the old hamberder scarfer's lying lips to God's ears.

#13 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-03-18 08:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Needs more caps.

#14 | Posted by censored at 2023-03-18 09:13 AM | Reply

I wonder if he will be put in epstein's cell?

#15 | Posted by kudzu at 2023-03-18 09:35 AM | Reply

#3

My fist thought as well.

#16 | Posted by horstngraben at 2023-03-18 09:47 AM | Reply

So many wasted keystrokes ...

#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-03-18 09:50 AM | Reply

But those caps ...

#18 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-03-18 09:51 AM | Reply

This is going to be funny AF to watch as the actual charge is falsifying business records which in the State of New York is only a misdemeanor. The jump to Felony (the claim it benefited his campaign) is going to be next to impossible to prove especially since the guy still won even with thee TMZ tape leak.

#19 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-03-18 09:54 AM | Reply

Here is what the Stable Genius fumbling with the CAPS key wrote on Truth Social:

NOW ILLEGAL LEAKS FROM A CORRUPT & HIGHLY POLITICAL MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OFFICE, WHICH HAS ALLOWED NEW RECORDS TO BE SET IN VIOLENT CRIME & WHOSE LEADER IS FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS, INDICATE THAT, WITH NO CRIME BEING ABLE TO BE PROVEN, & BASED ON AN OLD & FULLY DEBUNKED (BY NUMEROUS OTHER PROSECUTORS!) FAIRYTALE, THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK!

All there, A-OK, for sure, yup, yessir.

#20 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-03-18 09:55 AM | Reply

Oh yeah. And it looks like he's going to be arrested Tuesday. Just in case you missed that in all the screaming. Or so he screamed.

#21 | Posted by YAV at 2023-03-18 09:56 AM | Reply

There are a lot of times I have said "why would he lie about that?" But with this? I can't see any reason he would, and I strongly suspect there are plenty of people, even in the NYC Justice system, that would warn him.

#22 | Posted by ABH at 2023-03-18 09:57 AM | Reply

#7. Wow. That is quite the unhinged word salad. Thank you for sharing that. I'm not on Truth Social so I never would have seen that had you not printed it here.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-18 10:02 AM | Reply

So far, from what I've been able to glean off the Google Machine, the story is Trump says, based on "illegal leaks," he expects to be arrested Tuesday. Trump also had some professional dirt diggers laboring in Hawaii on Obama's birth certificate. The guy lies like normals inhale and exhale, and if he gets that far then he takes a bigger breath (so to speak). But he's back in the center of it all, right where he wants to be. Sucking up political oxygen.

#24 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-03-18 10:04 AM | Reply

I'll take: Things a totally stable genius would say for 500, please.

#25 | Posted by ABH at 2023-03-18 10:07 AM | Reply

#10. Good one!

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-18 10:17 AM | Reply

#9
It was from a Newsweek piece YAV posted at
drudge.com

Notice how George Soros gets slipped in there. Holy wow.

#27 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-03-18 10:37 AM | Reply

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

#28 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-18 10:40 AM | Reply

Start from a dead stop at "bizarre" and take the bullet train straight to Krazy Town.

PS: Stirring up them Joo haters is certainly an interesting touch.

#29 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-03-18 10:44 AM | Reply

Wow, Kissinger and Soros are still kickin around world influence in their early and late nineties.

#30 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2023-03-18 10:51 AM | Reply

Arrest the sumbitch and make sure it's not the last time.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-18 10:58 AM | Reply

I wonder how Trump will take it when there's no actual riot over this?

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-18 10:59 AM | Reply

Trump calls for protests if prosecutors do anything illegal' in targeting him
thehill.com

...Former President Trump on Saturday warned of "the biggest protest we have ever had" in the United States if prosecutors "do anything illegal" in their investigations into him and his businesses.

Speaking at a rally in Conroe, Texas, on Saturday, Trump spoke about the local and federal probes targeting his businesses and political activities, including lawmakers investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the Capitol.

"If these radical, vicious racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, I hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protest we have ever had ... in Washington, D.C, in New York, in Atlanta and elsewhere because our country and our elections are corrupt," Trump told the crowd of his supporters. ...



... Former President Trump on Saturday warned of "the biggest protest we have ever had" in the United States if prosecutors "do anything illegal" ...

Who is going to be the judge of whether or not "anything illegal" is being done by the prosecutors?

#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 11:00 AM | Reply

#7
Yeah, I mean, George Soros? Really?

#34 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-03-18 11:02 AM | Reply

I have a theory - the prosecutors fully expect to lose the case. They WANT to lose so that it looks political thus revving up Trump's base and Republican voters who already perceive the federal DOJ as politicized. This is because I do firmly believe they want Trump to win the primary because it is rightly believed he's the one they have the best chance of beating in the general. *adjusts tin foil hat.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-18 11:03 AM | Reply

Or maybe ------- is a criminal and law enforcement wants him behind bars

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-18 11:19 AM | Reply

Trump also had some professional dirt diggers laboring in Hawaii on Obama's birth certificate.

| POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

Those poor guys. No one ever gave them return air fare.

#37 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-18 11:24 AM | Reply

Make no mistake, Trump is suffering. He is pissing his pants. He has likely never hated the world more and never wanted the blood of others so badly.

He's only going to be more dangerous. Dangerous until the moment he blows his own brains out.

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-18 11:26 AM | Reply

Are they standing back and standing by? You know ... like the Proud boys and all the good little maga Nazi's are ???

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-03-18 11:29 AM | Reply

fragmentation
n. division or separation into pieces or fragments. For example, fragmentation of thinking (typically termed loosening of associations) is a disturbance in which thoughts become disjointed to such an extent as to no longer be unified, complete, or coherent; fragmentation of personality (typically termed personality disintegration) occurs when an individual no longer presents a unified, predictable set of beliefs, attitudes, traits, and behavioral responses.
dictionary.apa.org
American Psychological Association
APA Dictionary of Psychology

#40 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2023-03-18 11:35 AM | Reply

Bellringer, I've come to that same "tin foil" conclusion as well. I believe you're correct in Trump needs the Left and They need him. It's like a really bad toxic relationship that either refuses to leave.

#41 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-03-18 11:44 AM | Reply

ZED

The Proud Boys haven't had a good rumble for a long time.

However, to be forewarned is to be forearmed. No more bicycle racks for barriers. I hope the police have the water cannons ready, just in case.

#42 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-03-18 11:51 AM | Reply

I do think the left wants trump to win the primary.

DeSantis and trump are good for the media but the left doesn't want DeSantis on the ballot for the general.

#43 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-18 11:52 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Eberly I concur with that as well. Trump is the only person who can keep Joe in the WH.

#44 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2023-03-18 12:01 PM | Reply

Lock him up! Lock him up!

#45 | Posted by a_monson at 2023-03-18 12:30 PM | Reply

Wow, Kissinger and Soros are still kickin around world influence in their early and late nineties. #7 | Posted by GOnoles92

Yeah! And Taylor Swift just released a new album!

#46 | Posted by censored at 2023-03-18 12:34 PM | Reply

#19 that'sa foregone concussion I think at this point. Though I doubt he spends a second in a cell. He will make an arrangement to meet at the station. He'll be processed, photographed, and released pending trial, i guarantee it. There is No way in hell he spends a second in the city lock up.

#47 | Posted by ABH at 2023-03-18 01:16 PM | Reply

This is nothing more that smear. They won't indict.

#48 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2023-03-18 01:21 PM | Reply

Doesn't sound like theyre preparing for peaceful tourists does it?

#49 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-18 01:34 PM | Reply

Speaker McCarthy Threatens Federal Probe If Trump Arrested
www.forbes.com

...Some of President Donald Trump's staunchest supporters immediately took to social media Saturday to blast his possible indictment, after he predicted he would be arrested Tuesday and called for protests.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said an indictment would be "an outrageous abuse of power" by Bragg, noting he would direct committees to investigate whether federal funds were used to interfere in the 2024 presidential election "with politically motivated prosecutions."

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) tweeted Saturday that Trump "did nothing wrong" and claimed, with no evidence, Justice Department officials were coordinating with Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg to indict Trump, saying, "This is what they do in communist countries to destroy their political opponents!"

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) said Trump "used his own money to resolve a private dispute" and called a possible indictment "an absurd abuse of the criminal process in our politics."

Chip Roy (R-Texas) said a "politically motivated" decision to indict Trump is based on "strained, convoluted legal theory" and suggested"without evidence"a "politicized justice' system" is being "weaponized" against Americans.

Richard Grenell, the former director of U.S. National Intelligence, claimed Democrats are responsible for the indictment and "they must be stopped or they will soon ruin our country permanently."

Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), referring to a possible indictment, said "this type of stuff only occurs in third-world authoritarian nations," adding, "if they can come for Trump, they will come for you."

...


How do they know it is politically motivated without seeing the evidence that the DA will present should there be a trial?

#50 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 01:34 PM | Reply

Arrest the man. He's a common criminal.

#51 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-18 01:51 PM | Reply

Bs. He's just doinG the no_heart white boy freakout.

#52 | Posted by fresno500 at 2023-03-18 02:06 PM | Reply

LMFAO get real. He won't be indicted. Wishful thinking.

#3 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

'get real'..'wishful thinking' that's the pot calling the kettle black

#53 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-18 02:13 PM | Reply

This is nothing more that smear. They won't indict.

What does that even mean?

Trump smeared himself by posting in all caps something the DA hasn't said?
So if the DA doesn't indict that means Trump is right?

Are you saying that Trump was never going to be indicted and he lied (say it isn't so!) in his "tweet" to fire everyone up and then when nothing happens he can look strong making the DA back down?

That this was all fabricated by MTG, Qevin, Trump, et. al. to further radicalize the lunatics that are his base?

It's all so many lies, so many games, so much deception, and so much fooling the morons where are his base.

Ah, it's gaslighting and you're participating in it, but too dumb to realize it? Perhaps you're just clueless?

You can't mean the DA since there are no leaks and there is no disclosure from them. You can't mean the media because Trump is the one that posted his crazy wackadoodle rant.

Are you as crazy as he is, too?

#54 | Posted by YAV at 2023-03-18 02:50 PM | Reply

I wanna see the basturd frog-walked outta Mar a Lardo in his jammies.

Each time he is arrested over the coming months.

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2023-03-18 03:00 PM | Reply

@#54 ... he lied (say it isn't so!) in his "tweet" to fire everyone up ...

Trump says he expects to be arrested, calls for protest
apnews.com

... Donald Trump claimed on Saturday that his arrest is imminent and issued an extraordinary call for his supporters to protest as a New York grand jury investigates hush money payments to women who alleged sexual encounters with the former president. ...

His message seemed designed to preempt a formal announcement from prosecutors and to galvanize outrage from his base of supporters in advance of widely anticipated charges.

Within hours, he sent a fundraising email to supporters while influential Republicans in Congress issued statements in his defense....

[emphasis mine]

#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 03:16 PM | Reply

@#55 ... I wanna see the basturd frog-walked outta Mar a Lardo in his jammies. ...

Fmr Pres Trump's lawyer indicted that fmr Pres Trump would turn himself in if a warrant is issued. ( www.cnbc.com )

My guess is that he wants to do that so there is no "perp walk" video of him in handcuffs....

#57 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 03:22 PM | Reply

@#57

Fmr Pres Trump's lawyer indicted that fmr Pres Trump

- should be -

Fmr Pres Trump's lawyer indicated that fmr Pres Trump

oops...

#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 03:23 PM | Reply

I believe you're correct in Trump needs the Left and They need him. It's like a really bad toxic relationship that either refuses to leave.

#41 | Posted by Bluewaffles

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that it's more likely that he's a reprehensible POS who should be charged for a large number of crimes.

Not everything is political.

#59 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-18 04:05 PM | Reply

but the left doesn't want DeSantis on the ballot for the general.

#43 | Posted by eberly

I suspect a significant portion of the middle as well.

I love it how people act like finding DeSantis alarming and unfit for office is only a political lefty thing.

#60 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-18 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"but the left doesn't want DeSantis on the ballot"

Eberly is not on the left.
Does Eberly want DeSantis on the ballot?

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-18 04:13 PM | Reply

60

Is that because that's there where you see yourself?

Not left ... ... but middle.

You're not, if that's the case.

And if he ends up on the ballot? We'll see but I believe the middle will sway his way.

And that's why the left, including you, doesn't want him on the ballot.

And you know it.

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-18 04:24 PM | Reply

If the election were today, I'd vote for Biden

#63 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-18 04:26 PM | Reply

I am grateful that Trump is still able to drain the bank accounts of deplorables, so at least he has that going for him.

#64 | Posted by bored at 2023-03-18 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Prediction - desantis will be the nominee, win over trump supporters by promising to pardon trump, win, and then pardon trump.

#65 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-18 05:25 PM | Reply

Many of the people in the Base that he is again calling into to the streets in "protest" of his totally legal arrest...knowing many if not most of them will be armed.

Something that has always been considered completely un-American.

#66 | Posted by Corky at 2023-03-18 05:33 PM | Reply

" indicted that fmr Pres Trump would turn himself "

I hope he takes off in a White Bronco instead.

#67 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-18 05:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If the election were today, I'd vote for Biden

#63 | POSTED BY pederly

And you'd also vote to eradicate many of the others who would vote for him from the planet.

You ------- liar.

#68 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-03-18 06:36 PM | Reply

@#64 ... I am grateful that Trump is still able to drain the bank accounts of deplorables, so at least he has that going for him....

Maybe not so much as previously...

Trump's Faltering Cash Machine Can't Rely on Facebook for a Fix
news.yahoo.com

...Donald Trump's back on Facebook, but the technology giant's data changes are hobbling his ability to wring cash from its users as effectively as he did during his astonishing rise to the White House.

Trump, who has raised more money online than any other politician, no longer can directly target his tens of millions of Facebook followers with fundraising appeals, nor can he find users who have similar political views, making it harder and more expensive to prospect for contributors.

While these changes affect every grassroots campaign that relies on Facebook to raise money -- including progressives like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who in 2018 upset a veteran New York congressman -- the former president needs to grow his army of small-dollar donors more than ever....

But the terrain has changed, and the 2024 race will be the first time presidential campaigns will grapple with the loss of Facebook's political data.

Trump, who's also facing a possible indictment by New York prosecutors over hush payments to actress Stormy Daniels, spent 91 cents to raise each dollar in the roughly six weeks after he declared his third presidential run, an unsustainable return on investment.

And he needs to find millions more contributors who give $10 or $20 at a time, since many deep-pocketed GOP donors, including Interactive Brokers Group Inc. founder Thomas Peterffy and Blackstone's Steve Schwarzman, have said they won't support him this time.

Other once-loyal donors, like billionaire Miriam Adelson, said they plan to sit out the nomination battle, where Trump faces several likely challengers, including Florida Governor Ron DeSantis as well as his former vice president, Mike Pence, who enjoy the support of wealthy benefactors....

[emphasis mine]


... spent 91 cents to raise each dollar ...

#69 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 06:40 PM | Reply

@#69 .. spent 91 cents to raise each dollar ...

The rest of my comment was cut off...

It read:

So... that means that the Trump campaign gets only $0.09 for each dollar contributed.

Ouches, that's gotta leave a mark....

#70 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 06:42 PM | Reply

So, I just read that the lead prosecutor drops felony charges to misdemeanors 52% of the time and in this case he's trying to elevate a case the the federal government DOJ under Obama declined to purse from a misdemeanor to a felony. It further cements my theory that this case is intended to fail. The left and Dems WANT Trump to be the nominee. Drive up sympathy and anger over a hyper-politicized prosecution. If I'm right it's a brilliant political strategy.

#71 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-18 08:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

And if he ends up on the ballot? We'll see but I believe the middle will sway his way.

And that's why the left, including you, doesn't want him on the ballot.

And you know it.

#62 | Posted by eberly

I'm not "the left," sport.

I am most certainly in the center. Center left, yes, but center.

And no, I don't think they will. Not with all the -------- he's pulling in FL at the moment.

#72 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-18 08:26 PM | Reply

@#71 ... It further cements my theory that this case is intended to fail. ...

Not really.

If anything, it further cements that the cases the lead prosecutor brings forward as felonies, he has more confidence in.

So what does that actually say about any case the lead prosecutor might bring forward here?

#73 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 08:40 PM | Reply

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I've made it plain as to what I see going on here.

#74 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-18 08:52 PM | Reply

@#74 ... I've made it plain as to what I see going on here. ...

Not really.

As seems to be the norm for your current alias, your comments make many pronouncements, but seem to be rather lacking on any links to substantiate those pronouncements. All that from a current alias that says it has links for all it posts, but rarely seems to post those links.

So... the apparent guess of your comment may be right, or it may be incorrect.

Does your comment indicate that I should just believe what your current alias posts?

Are you Tucker Carlson?



#75 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 09:04 PM | Reply

#75. I'm speculating the motivation behind this, as are you.

The case is stale and the legal justifications underlying the prosecution are kind of weak.

When I see that in such a highly visible and politically charged case that looks like it has a low probability of success, I question the motives behind the prosecution. From where I sit it looks to be driven by politics and if I'm correct I think it's a brilliant political strategy. Republican voters tend to be easily manipulated.

#76 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-18 09:13 PM | Reply

#71 | Posted by BellRinger

Huh? The payment wasn't made public until January 2018. www.axios.com

If the feds declined the case, I've seen nothing that they even investigated, it's more likely than not because of differences in the federal and state statutes, because it's the Buffoons DOJ and because it's a sitting president.

#77 | Posted by et_al at 2023-03-18 09:22 PM | Reply

@#76 ... the legal justifications underlying the prosecution are kind of weak. ...

Why?

... When I see that in such a highly visible and politically charged case ...

So your current alias seems to be looking at this case from a political angle.

What evidence does your current alias have to say about the legal angle?


#78 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 09:25 PM | Reply

" 77 | POSTED BY ET_AL AT 2023-03-18 09:22 PM | FLAG: "

I had the dates wrong. Apologies for that. I had 2016 on the brain.

So I do agree with your points regarding a lack of prosecution in 2018.

I do have a question for you - this prosecutor absolutely has a record of reducing felonies down to misdemeanors. In this case he's trying really hard to elevate a misdemeanor case into a felony. Do you understand how this can be perceived as highly politicized?

#79 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-18 09:38 PM | Reply

&NBSP

@#79 ... this prosecutor absolutely has a record of reducing felonies down to misdemeanors...

Now, "absolutely."

Yet, still no links.

#80 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 09:48 PM | Reply

Now, "absolutely."

It's a short form for "We all know...".

#81 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-03-18 09:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#80. Do you doubt the claim? Is it critical to this discussion?

#82 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-18 09:51 PM | Reply

@#82 ... Do you doubt the claim? ...

So, still no links.

... Is it critical to this discussion? ...

Critical to this discussion? No.

Germaine to this discussion? Yes.

Critical to the credibility, or lack thereof, your current alias going forward? Yes.


Yer up..

:)



#83 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 10:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#79

Ignorance about the legal system fuels all sorts of speculation. For example yours about this prosecutor reducing felonies to misdemeanors. I'd bet dollars to donuts that the actual data shows it's because of plea bargaining in 99 out of 100 cases. Doing that is not unique to this prosecutor. They all do it, in every jurisdiction, at probably similar or higher rates.

Where do you get the idea that "[i]n this case he's trying to...elevate a" misdemeanor to a felony? That concept runs counter to typical charging decisions e.g. charge the highest conceivable crime based on the evidence then plea down.

#84 | Posted by et_al at 2023-03-18 10:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I've made it plain as to what I see going on here.

#74 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

And you being the stupid f'n moron you are means odds are you are wrong.

#85 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-18 10:02 PM | Reply

So, let me get jeff's "logic" under examination here.

Jeff is assuming the Manhattan DA is going to indict ------- on felony charge of campaign fraud related to the Stormy Daniels hush payments, something that -------'s attorney did time for.

With the intention that the indictment and trial FAIL, in order to boost sympathy for the twice impeached, insurrectionist, crooked, conman, so that ------- wins the Republican nomination, something he is already the front runner for.

It would take a republican to come up with this conspiracy theory. I mean this realllllly is off the rails type thinking.

the manhattan da would be tempting all out civil war in a bid to get ------- the nomination, which if he gets has a reallllly good chance of winning the presidency, cause as well all know republicans cheat in elections and elections are razor thin.

Of course, I suspect, that if ------- is EVER arrested on anything there will be a lot of online hooting and hollering and Fox Not News will scream a lot, but that will be about it. Except maybe a Maga Moron may get himself shot by the FBI, like happened after the mar-a-lago raid.

#86 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-18 10:09 PM | Reply

I do want to point out that jeff is doing what ------- does on a large scale.

He has created a nonsensical "theory" that posits the DA is acting corruptly.

---- like that was used to justify 1/6

Just more proof that Republicans as a group have gone off the deep end.

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-18 10:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Unrelated...

Eve 6 - Here's To The Night
www.youtube.com

#88 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 10:25 PM | Reply

I think it's highly unfortunate that, of all the crimes Trump has committed, this is the one he's being indicted for first. Most people just don't care about this, so it feeds the narrative that this is political for him to go down for what many would deem a relatively minor infraction. His role in J6, the stolen documents, and even the Georgia efforts are all more deserving of an indictment.

#89 | Posted by JOE at 2023-03-19 10:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'm not "the left," sport.
I am most certainly in the center. Center left, yes, but center."

You spend too much time being offended by and attacking people on the right to sell that nonsense.

A lot of folks struggle with self-identity.

#90 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-19 10:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#89/Joe - best post on this thread IMO.

This seems small potatoes in regards to the other potential indictments which IMO are warranted.

If this particular one goes down and they lose (good chance?)...it's going to just give fuel to Trump and his supporters (including the GOP) that this is indeed a "continued" witch hunt and charges for impending cases are not warranted.

Of course, after saying all this, it is quite possible NY has evidence we haven't seen yet.

#91 | Posted by brass30 at 2023-03-19 01:23 PM | Reply

#91. Yes, I also agree with Joe's argument. There are other prosecutors who are pretty livid right now.

#92 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 01:30 PM | Reply

If Trump is indicted he could use it to put Desantis in a tough spot by not voluntarily surrendering and forcing NY to issue an extradition order. While Desantis doesn't have the power to block extradition but the request from NY would go to his office for review. Trump would of course spin that into a story about how Desantis is working with New York liberals to take down Trump.

#93 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2023-03-19 01:51 PM | Reply

#91. Yes, I also agree with Joe's argument. There are other prosecutors who are pretty livid right now.

So would you and Joe prefer the DA's all colluded with each other to coordinate the release of indictments from multiple grand juries?

Correct me if I'm wrong but:
1) Trump has no idea when any indictment will be handed down.
2) The NY DA has no idea when any indictment will be handed down.
3) The Grand Jury is responsible for reaching a decision and then will inform the DA.
4) THEN Trump and his attorneys will be notified.

Trump is setting this whole thing up to gage and rally support - and it's all independent of what's actually going on. This is also why he's holding a rally in Waco TX almost exactly 30 years to the date of the Branch Davidian's torching themselves in an attempt to shift the blame to Law Enforcement, thus making law enforcement the enemy. Just like Trump and the GOP is doing today. Full out.

#94 | Posted by YAV at 2023-03-19 02:31 PM | Reply

Potential "protesters" (see: violent) will be worn out (or in jail) by the time all the indictments have been handed down.

#95 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2023-03-19 02:43 PM | Reply

So would you and Joe prefer the DA's all colluded with each other to coordinate the release of indictments from multiple grand juries?

No. I would prefer the people investigating more serious crimes get off their asses and do something. Apparently NY is tired of waiting.

#96 | Posted by JOE at 2023-03-19 02:46 PM | Reply

Goodness it's like the police of the world took a vote and concluded that Trump voters don't respond like tourists when angry they respond like violent insurrectionists.

I can't wait to see how Trump's fan base reacts when a stun grenade gets shot into a Karen's face.

#97 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-19 02:47 PM | Reply

I hope he takes off in a White Bronco instead.

#67 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

That could be amusing, especially with the current Bronco steering recall. When's the last time anyone saw him drive anything besides a golf cart?

#98 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2023-03-19 03:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

79 ... this prosecutor absolutely has a record of reducing felonies down to misdemeanors...

Show me a district or local prosecutor who doesn't reduce charges. It's how the business works. Over charge everything to make the threat of serious prison time; trade charge reductions for guilty pleas, suspended sentences and probation; save court time and prison expense. The same tactic is used in criminal cases all the time. Nothing new.

#99 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2023-03-19 03:48 PM | Reply

I don't remember Ted Bundy getting to plead to lesser crimes.

#100 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-19 03:51 PM | Reply

I don't remember Ted Bundy getting to plead to lesser crimes.

#100 | POSTED BY TOR

According to Mike Minerva, a Tallahassee public defender and member of the defense team, a pre-trial plea bargain was negotiated in which Bundy would plead guilty to killing Levy, Bowman, and Leach in exchange for a firm 75-year prison sentence. Prosecutors were amenable to a deal, by one account, because "prospects of losing at trial were very good." Bundy, on the other hand, saw the plea deal not only as a means of avoiding the death penalty, but also as a "tactical move": he could enter his plea, then wait a few years for evidence to disintegrate or become lost and for witnesses to die, move on, or retract their testimony. Once the case against him had deteriorated beyond repair, he could file a post-conviction motion to set aside the plea and secure an acquittal. At the last minute, however, Bundy refused the deal. "It made him realize he was going to have to stand up in front of the whole world and say he was guilty", Minerva said. "He just couldn't do it."

www.upi.com

#101 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2023-03-19 04:19 PM | Reply

#11 I have thought on how they could handle that. Assign the Secret Service Agents that were going to help Trump go to the Capitol during the Jan 6th riot to speak to his minions, to protect Trump in jail. They side with him and love him so much, they should be the ones to protect him!

#102 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2023-03-19 05:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Taylor Swift just released a new album!

#46 | POSTED BY CENSORED

And it wasn't too bad of an album.
I hope whatever tech - Bacca tanks? - is keeping those dudes alive is shared with the general public someday.

#103 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2023-03-20 08:51 AM | Reply

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