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Sunday, March 19, 2023

Annika Brockschmidt: Violence has always been at the center of White Christian nationalism: the vow to impose order on those perceived as un-American, if need be with force, either by the police or by wielding a gun themselves.

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... And while the absolute right to gun ownership has been a core belief on the American Right since at least the Reagan years ...

When the NRA Supported Gun Control (2016)
time.com

... On May 20, 2000, the legendary actor and president of the National Rifle Association Charlton Heston stood before the podium at the organization's 129th annual convention with a banner raised behind him featuring the America flag and the words "Vote Freedom." As he concluded his address, Heston picked up a replica of a flintlock rifle, raised it over his head and declared, in his own dramatic fashion, that anyone who wanted to take his gun would have to pry it "from my cold, dead hands."

This iconic moment has come to define the NRA, which is now America's leading pro-gun advocacy group. As the group frames things in a new ad campaign, gun-control laws and politicians who support them are seen as an unconstitutional intrusion on the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

The NRA's opposition to gun control, however, is only a few decades , according to Adam Winkler author of the book Gunfight: The Battle Over the Right to Bear Arms in America. "Historically," writes Winkler, "the leadership of the NRA was more open-minded about gun control than someone familiar with the modern NRA might imagine."

Not only did the NRA support gun control for much of the 20th century, its leadership in fact lobbied for and co-authored gun control legislation....


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-03-18 09:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The AR-15 is a pagan idol, and it demands blood sacrifice.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-19 09:30 AM | Reply

It's an implied threat to murder fellow citizens.

#3 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2023-03-19 10:44 AM | Reply

Oh yeah? What about these lapel pins? www.etsy.com

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"

Karl Marx

#4 | Posted by DarkVader at 2023-03-19 11:18 AM | Reply

"Oh yeah? What about these lapel pins?"

That's an implied threat to murder people who had it coming.

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-03-19 11:49 AM | Reply

That's an implied threat to murder people who had it coming.

#5 | POSTED BY LEGALLYYOURDEAD AT 2023-03-19 11:49 AM | FLAG: Nah, gun guys just like to wear them to get a rise from/piss off anti-gun libbies like you. Hell, I do not even have an AR15, but now I think I'll order one of these pins to wear. Have a happy day guy : )

#6 | Posted by MSgt at 2023-03-19 11:56 AM | Reply

Yes, every after weekend the news filled with all the victims of these White churchgoing scum.
Their hymns all promoting drug use and guns and their White gang 'lifestyle'... it's like another holocaust! Them and their 'family values'...sheesh how long must it go on?

#7 | Posted by orgasmdonor at 2023-03-19 12:11 PM | Reply

I don't own any guns. I don't like guns. I may have to get one of these pins anyway.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 12:14 PM | Reply

Yes, every after weekend the news filled with all the victims of these White churchgoing scum.
Their hymns all promoting drug use and guns and their White gang 'lifestyle'... it's like another holocaust! Them and their 'family values'...sheesh how long must it go on?

#7 | POSTED BY ORGASMDONOR

www.thepinknews.com

Members of far-right extremist groups joined with right-wing Christians and other conservatives in a park in Ohio to disrupt a drag queen story event.

Swallow it, --------

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 12:23 PM | Reply

I don't own any guns. I don't like guns. I may have to get one of these pins anyway.

#8 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Of course you will, you're an -------.

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 12:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#10. Owning an innocuous pin makes one an -------?

#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 12:55 PM | Reply

#9 How many drag queens where shot by white Christian nationalists?

#12 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2023-03-19 12:58 PM | Reply

Owning an innocuous pin makes one an -------?

#11 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Similarities with wearing a swastika.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-19 12:59 PM | Reply

Owning an innocuous pin makes one an -------?

#11 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Symbolizes solidarity with child murderers.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-19 12:59 PM | Reply

#10. Owning an innocuous pin makes one an -------?

#11 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No, you're an -------, thus owning that pin is a logical conclusion.

"...replacing it with the preferred gun of White supremacists out to kill Americans they deemed unworthy..."

Again, no surprise that you would get one.

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 01:02 PM | Reply

#9 How many drag queens where shot by white Christian nationalists?

#12 | POSTED BY HELIUMRA

en.wikipedia.org

www.q13fox.com

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 01:06 PM | Reply

#15. You quote stupid ass left wing trope as if it's authoritative. I get that you living in a state of constant emasculation can't be easy but that was incredibly lame even by your low standards.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 01:09 PM | Reply

Take a gander at these two white supremacists

www.bing.com

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 01:12 PM | Reply

ballsweat typed in black person ar-15 pin and got that

lol

yeah ballsweat there are also black people who are obsessed about assault rifles, your point?

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 01:15 PM | Reply

Patricide Jeff wants an AR-15 pin because he idolizes George Santos.

#20 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2023-03-19 01:16 PM | Reply

#15. You quote stupid ass left wing trope as if it's authoritative. I get that you living in a state of constant emasculation can't be easy but that was incredibly lame even by your low standards.

#17 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

are rightwing extremists committing mass murders?

What are their preferred guns?

You really are a stupid -------.

#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 01:21 PM | Reply

People of all stripes are committing murders, you stupid moron.

Banning the AR15 isn't going to change that. Most gun murders are carried out with a pistol.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 01:24 PM | Reply

How many people have been murdered by an AR15 lapel pin?

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 01:27 PM | Reply

People of all stripes are committing murders, you stupid moron.
Banning the AR15 isn't going to change that. Most gun murders are carried out with a pistol.

#22 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Correct and white politicians are wearing pins of the gun of choice for white christian nationalist violent extremists.

Congrats you are one too.

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 01:29 PM | Reply

"People of all stripes are committing murders, you stupid moron."

Thanks, Second Amendment!

"Banning the AR15 isn't going to change that."

Thanks, Second Amendment!

"Most gun murders are carried out with a pistol."

Thanks, Second Amendment!

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 01:34 PM | Reply

#24, the AR15 is the gun of choice for all sorts of people. You attempt to funnel them all in to one icky group and try to play a stupid game of guilt by association is childish.

Are you going to call JPW a " white christian nationalist violent extremist?"

I seem to recall him saying he owns one?

#26 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 01:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 160 different handguns being used in 110 incidents between 1982 and February 2023. These figures are calculated from a total of 140 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 78 percent of mass shootings." www.statista.com

But hey, those AR15s look scarier!

#27 | Posted by MSgt at 2023-03-19 02:00 PM | Reply

I bet Douchey is a huge fan of that abortion pin where the "o" is shaped like a heart that a few Democrats wore to SOTU. Nothing speaks to love more than killing the unborn.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 02:03 PM | Reply

"Nothing speaks to love more than killing the unborn."

The "bargaining" stage of the Kubler-Ross model.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 02:05 PM | Reply

So, Snoofy was at Starbucks and the barista wrote Kubler-Ross on his cup of latte so he looked it up on his Android and now has a cute little term he likes using.

#30 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 02:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#24, the AR15 is the gun of choice for all sorts of people. You attempt to funnel them all in to one icky group and try to play a stupid game of guilt by association is childish.
Are you going to call JPW a " white christian nationalist violent extremist?"
I seem to recall him saying he owns one?

#26 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

non-sequitor

does JPW want an ar-15 pin?

Not all ar-15 owners are white christian nationalist violent extremists

the ar-15 appears to be the gun of choice of white christian nationalist violent extremists

People wearing the pin appear to be supporting white christian nationalist violent extremists

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 02:16 PM | Reply

I bet Douchey is a huge fan of that abortion pin where the "o" is shaped like a heart that a few Democrats wore to SOTU. Nothing speaks to love more than killing the unborn.

#28 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

is an abortion health care? Is an ar-15 health care?

#32 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Nothing speaks to love more than killing the unborn."
The "bargaining" stage of the Kubler-Ross model.

#29 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

nonsense jeffj is a sociopath thus incapable of grieving for others.

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 02:19 PM | Reply

LibsOfTikTok children's story hour canceled over threats amid violent protests at similar conservative events

www.theblaze.com

#34 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2023-03-19 02:21 PM | Reply

People of all stripes are committing murders

Banning the AR15 isn't going to change that.

#22 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

But the most prolific murderers, apart from COVID deniers, are people with AR-15s.

Get rid of them. A lot would change,

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-19 02:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@34

you mean the drag queens who showed up at the Kirk Cameron book reading? LOL

yeah compare that to the literal nazis terrorizing children at the Ohio drag queen reading.

LMFAO

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 02:31 PM | Reply

" People wearing the pin appear to be supporting white christian nationalist violent extremists"

People wear those pins because they think it looks cool. With this nonsense some will wear it to troll lefties who look for reasons to be offended and for any reason, no matter how lame, to try and smear people they disagree with.

#37 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 02:33 PM | Reply

" is an abortion health care? Is an ar-15 health care?

#32 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2023-03-19 02:18 PM | FLAG: "

Abortion is a choice. The same people who claim to be pro choice and act offended when labeled as pro abortion are the ones proclaiming it's an act of love.

#38 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 02:36 PM | Reply

#36 Yeah, one of them kicked a "poor little white kid" - as it put it - twice and hit her with a cane. They attack3ed the kids.

#39 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2023-03-19 02:41 PM | Reply

" People wearing the pin appear to be supporting white christian nationalist violent extremists"
People wear those pins because they think it looks cool. With this nonsense some will wear it to troll lefties who look for reasons to be offended and for any reason, no matter how lame, to try and smear people they disagree with.

#37 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

-------- you lying pos, they wear them because it "pwnz the libs"

Then again, thinking the ar-15-the gun of choice of white christian nationalist violent extremists is "cool" says a lot about you, but not surprising.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 02:43 PM | Reply

"proclaiming it's an act of love."

Got a quote of them saying this?

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 02:48 PM | Reply

Abortion is a choice. The same people who claim to be pro choice and act offended when labeled as pro abortion are the ones proclaiming it's an act of love.

#38 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

no, stupid.

abortion is healthcare, pro-choice people believe women have the inherent right to bodily autonomy and that right allows them to choose what they do with their body.

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 02:51 PM | Reply

#36 Yeah, one of them kicked a "poor little white kid" - as it put it - twice and hit her with a cane. They attack3ed the kids.

#39 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

I wouldn't trust "the blaze" if it told me the sky was blue

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 02:53 PM | Reply

#42 way to move the goalposts. What conclusion do you draw when you see an abortion pin with the o in the shape of a heart?

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 02:53 PM | Reply

"pro-choice people believe women have the inherent right to bodily autonomy"

They're not capable of seeing it that way.

They don't understand how Roe was a compromise between a woman's bodily autonomy and her baby's right to life.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 02:54 PM | Reply

Nobody complained about violence when they were destroying Germany and ending the Holocaust.

#46 | Posted by orgasmdonor at 2023-03-19 02:55 PM | Reply

"What conclusion do you draw when you see an abortion pin with the o in the shape of a heart?"

They are capable of loving someone who had an abortion.
Whereas you don't seem to be capable of that.
Which is why women don't tell you about their abortions.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 02:55 PM | Reply

" 40 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2023-03-19 02:43 PM | FLAG: "

You really are desperate. It's funny.

#48 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 02:56 PM | Reply

"is an abortion health care?"

Yes.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 02:58 PM | Reply

This is not difficult:

www.bing.com

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 02:59 PM | Reply

" they wear them because it "pwnz the libs""

In some instances that is undoubtedly true. And it's funny. It's funny because the fact that a small on owns libs is pathetically hilarious.

#51 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 03:04 PM | Reply

"When SCOTUS overturned Roe v. Wade, they effectively created two nations " one where those whose reproductive freedom belongs to themselves and those whose reproductive freedom belongs to a small group of politicians."

Allowing women the choice to have an abortion is an act of loving those women.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 03:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Tacky

#53 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-03-19 03:10 PM | Reply

Republicans are very tacky.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-19 03:11 PM | Reply

pro-choice people believe women have the inherent right to bodily autonomy and that right allows them to choose what they do with their body.
#42 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Except when it comes to what? See this is where the Lumper argument falls apart.

How many babies were killed this in 2022, vs COVID deaths? Estimates vary for how many people get the (abortion) procedure each year, with 630,000 on the low end to around 886,000 based on other models.

Do you agree with saving lives? OR not.

Should RvW been turned over, NO, should the Democrat congress have passed a bill in response? Absolutely.

While I agree with abortion within a certain time frame (RvW was within reason). What is driving the division is both "abortion on demand" activists, and "NO abortion at all cost" crazies. Both are extreme positions, but that's where we are politically as a country.

#55 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-03-19 03:20 PM | Reply

#55 you said it better than I can.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 03:23 PM | Reply

Nobody complained about violence when they were destroying Germany and ending the Holocaust.

#46 | POSTED BY ORGASMDONOR

Ummm comparing nazis gunning down black people grocery shopping is the same as attacking nazi germany in ww2?

Yeah, you're not a serious human being. Welcome to ponkville

#57 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 03:52 PM | Reply

What conclusion do you draw when you see an abortion pin with the o in the shape of a heart?

#44 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER A

The wearer believes in a woman's right to choose what is done with her body.

What do you see?

#58 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 03:54 PM | Reply

"What is driving the division is both "abortion on demand" activists"

All health care should be on demand. Abortion should be no different.
It's not an extreme position to get health care when you actually request it.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 03:55 PM | Reply

In some instances that is undoubtedly true. And it's funny. It's funny because the fact that a small on owns libs is pathetically hilarious.

#51 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The fact that "serious" politicians up to and including the former POTUS motivation is to "pwn" libs says a lot about you. Since you think it is funny. and undoubtedly true.

Perhaps they should become serious people, you know, adults and try governing. You know, helping ALL Americans.

But hate is all republicans have to offer.

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 03:56 PM | Reply

"Estimates vary for how many people get the (abortion) procedure each year"

You're calling taking a pill a "procedure."
You sound uninformed when you do that.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 03:57 PM | Reply

"It's funny because the fact that a small on owns libs is pathetically hilarious."

It's funny in the same way spray painting a Swastika on a Synagogue is funny.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 03:57 PM | Reply

"The libs" find the stupidest thing to get offended about. What is funny is the fact that they care enough about a lapel pin to get all worked up about it. "Oh my gosh. Did you see their expressions and hear the sobbing when they saw my AR lapel pin?? These people are SO ridiculous, *begins giggling uncontrollably*

#63 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 04:02 PM | Reply

" What do you see?

#58 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2023-03-19 03:54 PM | FLAG: "

Honestly, I see the message being that the act of abortion itself is an act of love.

#64 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 04:04 PM | Reply

"The libs" find the stupidest thing to get offended about. What is funny is the fact that they care enough about a lapel pin to get all worked up about it. "Oh my gosh. Did you see their expressions and hear the sobbing when they saw my AR lapel pin?? These people are SO ridiculous, *begins giggling uncontrollably*
#63 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Are these people who are giggling uncontrollably at the libs over AR 15 pins the same ones who are banning books and bulletin boards with rainbow flags in them?

#65 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-19 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-What conclusion do you draw when you see an abortion pin with the o in the shape of a heart?

Free speech.

Leave it at that.

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-19 04:09 PM | Reply

Free speech.

#66 | POSTED BY EBERLY

So's a Confederate Battle Flag.

The meaning of some things is designed to punch you in the gut.

These AR-15 pins? Are they worn around parents who had their children ripped apart by them?

That would be tacky and, I think, dangerous.

#67 | Posted by Zed at 2023-03-19 04:17 PM | Reply

67

Adulthood is for ... ... .well ... ..adults.

Have 1 explain this to you.

#68 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-19 04:21 PM | Reply

I don't know about any of you, but I find the best accessory to accompany ban AR 15 lapel pin is a matching cross pin or necklace.

#69 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-19 04:22 PM | Reply

Actually now that I think about it, an AR 15 lapel pin and a praying hands lapel pin would be the best boxed accessory set for the "thoughts and prayers crowd".

#70 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-19 04:30 PM | Reply

"The libs" find the stupidest thing to get offended about. What is funny is the fact that they care enough about a lapel pin to get all worked up about it. "Oh my gosh. Did you see their expressions and hear the sobbing when they saw my AR lapel pin?? These people are SO ridiculous, *begins giggling uncontrollably*

#63 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Wearing an ar-15 pin days after children are gunned down in a classroom by a, checks.... ar-15 style gun is no big deal.

Jeff you are a sociopath.'

Not that that is surprising.

#71 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 04:31 PM | Reply

-Jeff you are a sociopath.'

No he isn't.

He's a dentist from Detroit, right?

Now, only a true sociopath would try to out his real identity on this place.

#72 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-19 04:35 PM | Reply

Jeff you are a sociopath.'

No he isn't.
He's a dentist from Detroit, right?

So, he is a sociopath.

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-19 04:38 PM | Reply

"You know the difference between a dentist and a sadist, don't you?

Newer magazines."

#74 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-19 04:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" Are these people who are giggling uncontrollably at the libs over AR 15 pins the same ones who are banning books and bulletin boards with rainbow flags in them?

#65 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2023-03-19 04:07 PM | FLAG: | "

Know what else you won't see in a classroom? Teachers wearing AR lapel pins.

#75 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 04:40 PM | Reply

They'll be too dead to put on their pins.

#76 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-19 04:43 PM | Reply

Know what else you won't see in a classroom? Teachers wearing AR lapel pins.
POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No, but someday we might see teachers using the real thing in a classroom if Republicans have their way and follow through with their plans to arm teachers.

#77 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-19 04:52 PM | Reply

#77 To follow up on that post:

At least 28 states, including Texas, currently allow teachers or school staff to be armed in the classroom under varying conditions, according to a 2020 RAND Corporation study. It is unclear how effective that has been at undermining a school shooting threat and critics note research that shows that adding firearms to a situation only increases the risk of gun violence.
www.nbcnews.com

The Effects of Laws Allowing Armed Staff in K-12 Schools

As of January 1, 2021, 28 states allow schools to arm teachers or staff (not just trained guards or peace officers) in at least some cases or as part of a specific program.[1] In some of these states, such as Arkansas and Colorado, there are no statutes allowing armed school personnel but also no laws explicitly prohibiting it, and state policymakers have decided to allow or encourage the arming of teachers, in sometimes innovative ways.
www.rand.org

#78 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-19 05:01 PM | Reply

Honestly, I see the message being that the act of abortion itself is an act of love.
#64 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Was the end of "Of Mice And Men" an act of love?

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 07:15 PM | Reply

These AR-15 pins? Are they worn around parents who had their children ripped apart by them?
#67 | POSTED BY ZED

Isn't that the whole point?

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-19 07:16 PM | Reply

Wow this thread is a ---- show.

I'm sure Jeffy is just trolling (mostly) but sometimes serious conversation is warranted.

The identity that gun ownership has become to a dangerous minority is certainly one of those topics. And that's what this tacky lapel pin represents.

Acting like it's just another accessory without any meaning is intentionally obtuse or...trolling.

#81 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-19 08:49 PM | Reply

" topics. And that's what this tacky lapel pin represents."

I love how you have such a tendency to make proclamations like you are some kind of oracle. JPW says this is how it is. End of discussion.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 09:09 PM | Reply

Hey jeff, no one around here respects you so don't be surprised that people dismiss you with "proclamations". Since you have become such a joke, no one takes you seriously.

#83 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 09:25 PM | Reply

#83. I take it that undersized nerdy guy bullied you more than usual last week.

#84 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 09:26 PM | Reply

I see my statement hit home.

Yours? Well, it really is nonsensical. You have tried this me being bullied angle a few times. You would be surprised how far off the mark you are. It would be funny, if not so sad.

#85 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-19 09:30 PM | Reply

Your statement hit home? Get over yourself. I pity you.

#86 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 09:36 PM | Reply

"me being bullied angle a few times."

You feel bullied. You're a victim. You're abused.

What other excuse can you manage for trying to out a poster here?

Do you have a better excuse for it then that that?

You were bullied?

By a dentist from Detroit.

Or so you thought?

#87 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-19 09:51 PM | Reply

Hardyhar, the two sniff twins are busy trying to bury another GOP turd

Nothing says "one nation under god" to todays "conservative" quite like being tasteless, classless and trite towards their countrymen's pain

#88 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-03-19 10:21 PM | Reply

When did purposely antagonizing your neighbors become a value to be proud of?

#89 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-03-19 10:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My neighbors wouldn't care. That's because they aren't a bunch of hyper emotional clowns who look for reasons to be offended.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 10:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I love how you have such a tendency to make proclamations like you are some kind of oracle. JPW says this is how it is. End of discussion.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger

Do you know anyone who's in that "culture"?

I know several. It's inevitable when you own guns and go to a range once in a while.

It's an identity. Obama was correct when he said it and you knew he was correct by all the immediate puling from the hicks clinging to their religion and guns.

Why else would the ------- giving these tacky pins out in congress submit a bill to make the AR-15 the "national firearm" or whatever stupid ---- it was?

#91 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-19 10:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My neighbors wouldn't care. That's because they aren't a bunch of hyper emotional clowns who look for reasons to be offended.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger

None the less, being intentionally offense is the sign of a low brow piece of ----.

Funnily enough, they often whine about a lack of civility towards them. Go figure.

#92 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-19 10:44 PM | Reply

I know all sorts of gun owners. A friend who lives across the street from me has a small arsenal. I don't know a single gun owner who fits your description. Yes, we are now comparing anecdotes. Having said that you act like everyone, or almost everyone, who has one of these pins fits your description. Undoubtedly some do. Undoubtedly some don't.

#93 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 10:48 PM | Reply

Why else would the ------- giving these tacky pins out in congress submit a bill to make the AR-15 the "national firearm" or whatever stupid ---- it was?

Different players. George Santos proposed the bill... probably trying to change his news coverage.

#94 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-03-19 10:54 PM | Reply

Sorry, I was wrong. They're not the same guy.

Some douche nozzle from GA is giving them out.

Some sister f*&^ing hick fro AL submitted the bill.

#95 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-19 10:58 PM | Reply

The pin is meant to be tacky and piss people off.

I know a couple people that I wouldn't be surprised to see wearing it and mostly it would be to piss people off.

I don't know if racism is at the root of it.

But it's definitely about gun owners loving their guns.....

#96 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-19 10:59 PM | Reply

Some douche nozzle from GA is giving them out.
Some sister f*&^ing hick fro AL submitted the bill.

#95 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2023-03-19 10:58 PM | FLAG: I'm in the middle....no, really.

#97 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-19 11:00 PM | Reply

" But it's definitely about gun owners loving their guns.....

#96 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2023-03-19 10:59 PM | FLAG: "

For sure. It's no different than a passionate Mustang or Camaro owner - all sorts of paraphernalia. Pride of ownership. And yes, some will troll. For many it wouldn't even occur to them unless they came across a discussion like this one.

#98 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-19 11:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's no different than a passionate Mustang or Camaro owner

It's actually quite different from that given the scourge of gun violence afflicting our society. For people who lead the way in preventing meaningful life-saving reform to celebrate the gun is despicable.

#99 | Posted by JOE at 2023-03-19 11:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Some sister f*&^ing hick fro AL submitted the bill.

Correct. I was mistaken... Santos and Boebert were co-sponsors.

#100 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-03-19 11:21 PM | Reply

It's no different than a passionate Mustang or Camaro owner

LOL You're a dumb ------------. We have more mass shootings than days on the calendar year. What a sad false equivalence even for you.

#101 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-03-19 11:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-You're a dumb ------------.

really? Is HE the one comparing cars to mass shootings? No, that's all you.

What a sad false equivalence

#102 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-19 11:56 PM | Reply

Get better chum, champ.

#103 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-03-19 11:58 PM | Reply

You need attention that bad, Alex?

Geez....pretty pathetic

#104 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-20 12:00 AM | Reply

That is lame, Alexandrite.

#105 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-20 12:04 AM | Reply

Brings up an interesting question, why doesn't he US have a National Car?

#106 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-03-20 12:10 AM | Reply

The thing I've never understood about White Nationalists...
"You've got all the guns, you've got 90% of the power,
what the flying feck are you still whining about?!"

Never been a bigger group of Snowflakes in American History."
They lose an election here or there and it's the
'End Times'...

Drama Queens, one and all.

#107 | Posted by earthmuse at 2023-03-20 06:45 AM | Reply

I'm in the middle....no, really.

#97 | POSTED BY EBERLY

That statement has zero bearing on political views.

Culturally snobbish and intending to belittle someone who I think acts like an idiot? Yup.

You're trying too hard.

#108 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-20 08:26 AM | Reply

BTW I thought Stacy Abrams was a douche nozzle from GA when she refused to concede.

And she will be again if she runs again and hobbles the Dem's chances in GA out of ego.

#109 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-20 08:28 AM | Reply

For sure. It's no different than a passionate Mustang or Camaro owner

No, it's not.

How come no whining about ebbs making declarative statements like an oracle?

#110 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-20 08:30 AM | Reply

-That statement has zero bearing on political views.

You're kidding, right?

It's literally 100% political.

#111 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-20 08:43 AM | Reply

But you're in the middle.....I got it.

#112 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-20 08:43 AM | Reply

My esteem for your assessment of politics has dropped significantly.

But keep trying. I see that you're clearly at that time of the month on this thread and have gone into ornery little bitch mode.

#113 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-20 08:56 AM | Reply

"How come no whining about ebbs making declarative statements like an oracle?

#110 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2023-03-20 08:30 AM |"

Your statement was applied to a broad swath of people whom you've never met yet somehow know exactly what their personal motivations are.

Eberly is making declarative statements about you and you alone and it's based on a history pattern and personal interaction.

Not even remotely the same.

#114 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-20 10:58 AM | Reply

114

He wants us to think he's a middle of the road kind of guy.

I disagree and his posts prove otherwise.

I'm an actual middle of the road guy but it's fine with me if I'm not perceived that way.

JPW is left. Hard left. He doesn't really hide it and I don't know why he thinks he has made any effort to do so.

My voting in general elections matches the hard left here 95% of the time.

But I'm NOT hard left and get accused of being pretty far right......and that's okay.

#115 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-20 11:04 AM | Reply

Your statement was applied to a broad swath of people whom you've never met yet somehow know exactly what their personal motivations are.

Yawn.

I guess you've never made broad, extrapolated statements about dems or libruls because you haven't met all dems, right?

Give me a break.

#116 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-20 11:57 AM | Reply

JPW is left. Hard left.

LOL you're a ------- idiot.

Jesus Christ I'm glad you finally outed yourself. Holy ----.

#117 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-20 11:58 AM | Reply

No, you're not middle of the road.

You try to appear to be but really you're just spineless or uninformed.

Neither is middle of the road.

#118 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-20 11:58 AM | Reply

poor thing.....better get back to the nooner where you can exchange insults with the high minded folks here.

#119 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-20 12:00 PM | Reply

-No, you're not middle of the road.

Besides yourself (LOL) is anyone?

#120 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-20 12:01 PM | Reply

"I guess you've never made broad, extrapolated statements about dems or libruls because you haven't met all dems, right?
Give me a break.

#116 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2023-03-20 11:57 AM"

I was explaining the difference between broad-brushing the motivations of a large swath of people you don't know vs the motivations of 1 person with a posting history and personal interaction.

Do you not recognize the difference?

#121 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-20 12:01 PM | Reply

Eb is more middle of the fence.

#122 | Posted by Corky at 2023-03-20 12:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

122

Exactly.

#123 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-20 12:05 PM | Reply

"It's no different than a passionate Nazi or SS fan - all sorts of paraphernalia."
--JeffJ

#124 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-20 12:33 PM | Reply

The wearer believes in a woman's right to choose what is done with her body.

What do you see?

#58 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2023-03-19 03:54 PM | FLAG: I see a person who unfortunately was not aborted by their mother.

#125 | Posted by MSgt at 2023-03-20 12:52 PM | Reply

"He has a battle rifle": Police feared Uvalde gunman's AR-15

Once they saw a torrent of bullets tear through a classroom wall and metal door, the first police officers in the hallway of Robb Elementary School concluded they were outgunned. And that they could die.

The gunman had an AR-15, a rifle design used by U.S. soldiers in every conflict since Vietnam. Its bullets flew toward the officers at three times the speed of sound and could have pierced their body armor like a hole punch through paper. They grazed two officers in the head, and the group retreated.

Uvalde Police Department Sgt. Daniel Coronado stepped outside, breathing heavily, and got on his radio to warn the others.

"I have a male subject with an AR," Coronado said.

The dispatch crackled on the radio of another officer on the opposite side of the building.

"----," that officer said.

"AR," another exclaimed, alerting others nearby.

www.texastribune.org

It figures the party of death would have an AR-15 fetish.

#126 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2023-03-20 01:07 PM | Reply

If Reinheit was intending on trolling rightwingers with this thread, I think he succeeded. LOL. Now all those fools are going to rush out and buy their own AR-15 lapel pins. And the really macho fools will actually buy an AR-15 itself.

#127 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-03-20 01:25 PM | Reply

well, duh...of course.

#128 | Posted by e1g1 at 2023-03-20 01:46 PM | Reply

#8 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Well, at least rational folks will know who to avoid at the summer BBQ's

#129 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2023-03-20 02:36 PM | Reply

Re 129

Yup!

And them red hats and AR-15 pins will tell just tell us who to shoot first when the magats run wild in the streets after Trumpy gets his well earned criminal indictment.

#130 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-03-20 02:41 PM | Reply

poor thing.....better get back to the nooner where you can exchange insults with the high minded folks here.

#119 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Just like the idiots on the nooner you get the answer you've earned.

Calling me "hard left" only shows your ignorance of the political spectrum. That's it.

But I tell you what, pick an online political spectrum test and link it. We'll see where I actually place compared to you.

Hell, make a thread out of it. Could be fun to see where people place.

#131 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-20 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do you not recognize the difference?

#121 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Do you not see that my point is we all do it here all the time?

You're just being a pendantic on this thread for ... I dunno.

#132 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-20 03:52 PM | Reply

"But I tell you what, pick an online political spectrum test and link it. We'll see where I actually place compared to you."

since you asked, I'll keep an eye out for issues as they emerge and we'll just see.

#133 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-20 04:25 PM | Reply

Unfortunately being a tasteless bore isn't a crime

This sort of stuff turns on the usual dweebs who are perpetually 15 years old mentally, but is simply a placard identifying an -------- to everyone else

The more stupid "flair" pins they wear the better

#134 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2023-03-20 04:48 PM | Reply

Great article, I didn't know these pins existed. Gonna order 25 for Christmas gifts.

#135 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2023-03-21 07:58 AM | Reply

Great article, I didn't know these pins existed. Gonna order 25 for Christmas gifts.

POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2023-03-21 07:58 AM | REPLY

For your less than endowed brethren ehhhhhhhhhhh???

#136 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-03-21 08:00 AM | Reply

"For your less than endowed brethren ehhhhhhhhhhh???"

#136 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

LOL ~ I don't care who you are, that was funny.

#137 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-03-21 08:36 AM | Reply

"For your less than endowed brethren ehhhhhhhhhhh???
#136 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR"

Are you suggesting this innocuous pin is tied to pen is size?

#138 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2023-03-21 08:42 AM | Reply

Are you suggesting this innocuous pin is tied to pen is size?

POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE AT 2023-03-21 08:42 AM | RE

Yesssssss yesssssss I am. Very much so. Why else would you want one?? Real men don't need to advertise they are tough. Their body of work is their testament.

#139 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-03-21 08:52 AM | Reply

Interesting, what say ye about American Flag lapel pins?

#140 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2023-03-21 08:59 AM | Reply

It's a flag pin. It's not a weapon. Oh and for the record. I am against the trans flag pin sporting the AR-15 firearms. If you want to defend yourself. Great. Do it on the down low. Don't advertise it either.

#141 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-03-21 09:06 AM | Reply

Interesting, what say ye about American Flag lapel pins?
#140 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

The tip of the fascist iceberg.
quoteinvestigator.com

Do you wear an Americal Flag lapel pin in your day to day?
No? Why not? I thought you loved America.

#142 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 09:17 AM | Reply

www.youtube.com

bullies!!

#143 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-21 09:18 AM | Reply

I respect your decision to wear the jewelry of your choice.

You and I both know there are loads of people who consider the Flag pin a sign of American cohesiveness and Nationalism.
If someone is looking for propaganda, it's easy to find.

#144 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2023-03-21 09:20 AM | Reply

#142
Is there a point to your howaboutism?

#145 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2023-03-21 09:22 AM | Reply

"You and I both know there are loads of people who consider the Flag pin a sign of American cohesiveness and Nationalism."

Those people are ------ in the head.

#146 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 12:14 PM | Reply

I agree with the article's author. The pin is a symbol of violence.

But it's a symbol....not actual violence.

and we have some real "Americans" here who can't stop crying about freedom of expression.

Where are the adults?

#147 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-21 12:52 PM | Reply

" 147 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2023-03-21 12:52 PM | FLAG: "

The same people who think the existence of these pins is criminal are the same ones who get sexually aroused seeing our flag burned as a 1st protected right.

#148 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-21 12:58 PM | Reply

"I agree with the article's author. The pin is a symbol of violence.
But it's a symbol....not actual violence."

Swastikas.
They only symbolize Nazi.

So if you see someone wearing one, what kind of assumptions can you safely make about that person, Eberly?

#149 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 12:58 PM | Reply

"Where are the adults?"

The adults are not the ones who think virtue signaling with pins is how you govern.

#150 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 12:59 PM | Reply

#149 Snoofy

I mostly scroll right past your posts. I'm commenting on this one just to illustrate how absurd you are with equivalencies. The Swastika symbolizes an ideology. AR lapel pin symbolizes an inanimate object.

#151 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-21 01:03 PM | Reply

"The Swastika symbolizes an ideology. AR lapel pin symbolizes an inanimate object."

You're kidding yourself. The pin represents an ideology as well. Otherwise, you'd see members of both parties wearing it.

Why isn't John Tester wearing one? How about Joe Manchin?

#152 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-21 01:09 PM | Reply

"The Swastika symbolizes an ideology."

The AR-15 pin symbolizes an ideology.

#153 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 01:09 PM | Reply

" The AR-15 pin symbolizes an ideology.

#153 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2023-03-21 01:09 PM | FLAG: "

Really? It only represents what you and your disgusting ilk assign to it.

#154 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-21 01:11 PM | Reply

"It only represents what you and your disgusting ilk assign to it."

Bwahahaha.

Republicans wouldn't be wearing it if that were the case.

Try again. What were they wearing the gun pin in reaction to?

#155 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-21 01:12 PM | Reply

" The AR-15 pin symbolizes an ideology.
#153 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2023-03-21 01:09 PM | FLAG: "
Really? It only represents what you and your disgusting ilk assign to it.
#154 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Tell us why they wear AR-15 lapel pins.
What virtue are they signaling?

#156 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 01:13 PM | Reply

" The pin represents an ideology as well. "

Okay. As a symbol it can represent a lot of things. I appreciate your comment. Do you place it as comparably evil as the swatistica?

#157 | Posted by BellRinger at 2023-03-21 01:14 PM | Reply

"As a symbol it can represent a lot of things."

That's not saying anything.
What things does the AR-15 lapel pin represent?

#158 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 01:17 PM | Reply

Is there an attempt down play the reality of this pin by comparing it to a swastika?

or WTF??

#159 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-21 01:19 PM | Reply

Is this an attempt to say wearing this pin means I want to kill jews or that I want to kill anyone?

Let's say a thousand people wear this pin.

how many have or will kill someone with an AR-15?

#160 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-21 01:21 PM | Reply

"Is there an attempt down play the reality of this pin..."

Downplay?
You mean, what JeffJ is doing, saying
"As a symbol it can represent a lot of things."

I'd call that downplaying it, absolutely. He's rendering it practically meaningless.
We both know Republicans aren't wearing this because it's practically meaningless.

#161 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 01:23 PM | Reply

Let's say a thousand people wear this pin.
how many have or will kill someone with an AR-15?

1,000 of them are okay with people being killed with an AR-15.

"Live by the sword, die by the sword" should not be a difficult concept for a man who was thirty years old on 9/11.

#162 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 01:24 PM | Reply

Or is it an attempt to elevate the pin to the level of a swastika, something pretty taboo?

Being pro-2nd amendment isn't taboo enough so it's better to equate the pin to a swastika?

#163 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-21 01:26 PM | Reply

"better to equate"

I don't se that happening.
I see the other symbol being used as a point of reference for simpletons who say "As a symbol it can represent a lot of things."

#164 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-21 01:29 PM | Reply

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