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Thursday, March 23, 2023

Joyce Vance: "There's news from Idaho, and it's not good. The only hospital in Sandpoint, Idaho, is terminating the provision of labor and delivery services. Sandpoint is the largest city in Bonner County, with just shy of 9,000 people. That may not sound like a lot, but in sparsely populated Idaho, it means that hundreds of women will be forced to deliver their babies at hospitals over an hour away, running the risk of out-of-hospital births and the higher mortality rates that accompany them. The hospital delivered 265 babies in 2022. That won't happen in 2023 and future years."

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#1 | Posted by qcp at 2023-03-23 01:45 PM | Reply

The shape of things to come. Coming to a Red State near you. And anyone who thinks otherwise is either a fool or an apologist for rightwing extremism.

#2 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-03-23 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Women and babies will die because of this.

#3 | Posted by horstngraben at 2023-03-23 01:52 PM | Reply

"Elections belong to the people. It is their decision. If they decide to turn their back on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters. "

Abraham Lincoln

#4 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2023-03-23 02:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And as predicted, educated people will flee -------- states. Congrats, your economic base is going to further collapse. I just wish I could get the feds to stop sending my money to these backwater --------s.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-23 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As I predicted, Idaho gets more $ from feds then they pay, time to cut off the leeches!

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-23 02:29 PM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY ORGASMDONOR

don't interrupt their righteous indignation with facts

#8 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 02:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

>people will flee -------- states.
In 2022 over 340,000 people fled the state of California

#7 | POSTED BY ORGASMDONOR

Yeah, but Californians are universally able to go see a doctor when they are going to have a baby.

Something parts of Idaho can no longer say-sort of like back in cave men days.

Are those Californians moving to places where they can't see a doctor?

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-23 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Do you think it a good thing or a bad thing that thousands of women in Idaho no longer have ready access to a doctor during pregnancy?

Do you understand that that is the natural and expected result of anti-choice/anti-freedom laws?

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-23 02:44 PM | Reply

In 2022 over 340,000 people fled the state of California

#7 | Posted by orgasmdonor

You mean people who can't afford to live in the best place have to move to worse places where it's cheaper? What a shocking revelation.

There's a reason world changing businesses come out of california and not kansas.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 03:01 PM | Reply

don't interrupt their righteous indignation with facts

#8 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

"I'm not a republican I just cheerlead for them"

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 03:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"There's a reason world changing businesses come out of california and not kansas"

Yep. Tech bros like to surf and eat acid. Neither are in high supply in Kansas.

#14 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2023-03-23 03:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ever noticed the best research universities are always in a blue state?

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-23 03:30 PM | Reply

Yep. Tech bros like to surf and eat acid. Neither are in high supply in Kansas.

#14 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

They also need an impressive IQ, which is not in high supply in kansas.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 03:41 PM | Reply

Ever noticed the best research universities are always in a blue state?

#15 | Posted by Tor

You mean the best EVERYTHING.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 03:42 PM | Reply

In 2022 over 340,000 people fled the state of California

#7 | POSTED BY ORGASMDONOR

Out of a 2021 population of 39.24 million people.

So 0.8% "fled."

Wow. Solid argument. What a -------- CA must be for 0.8% to leave.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2023-03-23 03:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mostly just retirees on a fixed income who are looking for somewhere with a lower average cost of living.

#19 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-03-23 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So, a poster shows up and deflects with a meaningless California deflection and you all bite on it.

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-23 04:23 PM | Reply

They've already tied up four other threads with transphobia.

At least "ZOMG! People are moving out of California!" is a change of pace.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-23 04:30 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

rent free SOYBOY

#22 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 04:48 PM | Reply

rent free SOYBOY

#22 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

"I'm not a republican I just copy paste insults from breitbart since I can't think of my own. I'm too busy thinking about trans people all the time."

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 04:49 PM | Reply

I'm too busy thinking about trans people all the time."
#23 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

and there it is again SOYBOY....can't stay away from the T word can you

#24 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 04:53 PM | Reply

and there it is again SOYBOY....can't stay away from the T word can you

#24 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

I absolutely can. I don't care about people living their lives how they want if it doesn't affect me. You're the one absolutely obsessing over it.

Just like those evangelical preachers who scream about homosexuality being demonic and then going on rentboy for se.

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 04:58 PM | Reply

They never consider the consequences of their policies. Not only will existing OB/GYNs not want to take the risk of practicing in these states, but their medical schools will also be unable to train new OB/GYNs, reducing the national supply of same. Many women will have no access to Pre-natal or delivery care. This will increase the rate of infant and maternal mortality. In order to prevent abortion, they are endangering wanted pregnancies, in addition to unwanted ones. In other words, killing actual babies (and their mothers). Brilliant!

#26 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2023-03-23 05:01 PM | Reply

I don't care about people living their lives how they want if it doesn't affect me.....#25 POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

that's pretty much saying "I don't care about women in Idaho...I don't live there so it doesn't affect me"

#27 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 05:02 PM | Reply

"I don't care about women in Idaho...I don't live there so it doesn't affect me"
#27 | POSTED BY RHYMEGUNFIGHTER

But you care, you care so much!

Which is why you're going to move to Idaho and fight for their rights.

Right?

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-23 05:07 PM | Reply

#28 POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

so our john wayne gacey wannabe shows up....what, are you a spokesperson now for SOYBOY?

#29 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 05:11 PM | Reply

I don't care about people living their lives how they want if it doesn't affect me.....#25 POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

that's pretty much saying "I don't care about women in Idaho...I don't live there so it doesn't affect me"

#27 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

Women not being able to get healthcare affects me and you and all of society. Trans people living the way they want to live affects no one but themselves.

Why do you need the simplest things explained to you over and over?

#30 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 05:16 PM | Reply

#30 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

shed your tears for society and remember these folks would like to get healthcare coverage to include payment for these types of atrocities.
you're right, it is a social issue

youtu.be

#31 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 05:25 PM | Reply

shed your tears for society and remember these folks would like to get healthcare coverage to include payment for these types of atrocities.

#31 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

If someone wants to do something, it's not an atrocity stupid. It doesn't affect your life. I'm sorry you're so obsessed with trans people. That's your fault not theirs.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 05:30 PM | Reply

#26 POSTED BY WHODAMAN

Bottom line is the bottom line. Overturning Roe gave another excuse to abandon areas that are under populated and poorer

loss of health care has been an ongoing problem for rural areas for a long time

#33 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 05:32 PM | Reply

#32 POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

SOYBOY, they did that to a little child you sick f**q

#34 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 05:34 PM | Reply

His inability to stop calling people soy boy is familiar.....

#35 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-23 05:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#29 | POSTED BY RHYMEGUNFIGHTER

So, you don't care about the women of Idaho?

I see. You're just another two faced hypocrite.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-23 05:38 PM | Reply

SOYBOY, they did that to a little child you sick f**q

#34 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

Finding one example of someone horrible doing something doesn't mean it's a widespread problem. Just like a few partial birth abortions doesn't mean that it was a widespread phenomena. Just like 2 black panthers outside a polling place doesn't mean it was a nationwide issue. But fascists will take extreme cases and cite them over and over to make gullible morons like you get outraged and help them take power.

A much MORE widespread problem is minority groups being made to suffer for fascist benefit. But you don't care about that.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 05:39 PM | Reply

#35 POSTED BY TOR

calling a spade a spade

#38 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 05:40 PM | Reply

His inability to stop calling people soy boy is familiar.....
#35 | POSTED BY TOR

It also ages the user.

Most likely parroting someone they admired.

It's sad.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-23 05:42 PM | Reply

#37 POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I wouldn't be so hypocritical as to not admit that some minority groups loom larger on my sympathy scale than others.

#40 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 05:46 PM | Reply

It's sad.....#39 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

so's emulating a fellow gay 'clown' who killed 33 guys in his clown shack

#41 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 05:50 PM | Reply

"It also ages the user.

Most likely parroting someone they admired.

It's sad."

Was there a previous user that couldn't stop using that phrase?

#42 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-23 06:03 PM | Reply

I wouldn't be so hypocritical as to not admit that some minority groups loom larger on my sympathy scale than others.

#40 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

Right you're just willing to buy into the fascist target of the moment. Just like if it were 2004 you'd be attacking gay marriage. If it were 1960 you'd be attacking school integration.

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 06:27 PM | Reply

The idiots of Idabo, who gave the GQP a super majority, deserve what they get. I have a former college friend who lives in a cousin-humping northern ID. We used to debate politics, he's always been far Reich, but our debates were never acrimonious. However, he's become such a snowflake he refuses to leave his Faux bubble and, like most ---------, can't handle hearing that his are minority views. During Covid, he bashed on social media the fact that WA still had a mask mandate and cheered his freedom in ID, this after he was just sick with Covid for the second time in six months. I replied that it was lucky for ID patients that WA had a mandate, as there were zero beds at any ID hospital, and patients in northern ID were being shipped to Spokane hospitals. I told him I thought that was unfair to WA residents who would be crowded out of their local hospitals and could die because ID refuses to follow simple CDC recommendations. The snowflake unfriended me, lol, after over 30 years of "friendship."

At the southern entrance to Bonner's Ferry, as of January 2022 when I last passed through the little SHole, the welcome to town sign proudly trumpets that it's "Trump Country." Imagine that the most significant accomplishment for your town is that it backed a racist, homophobic, sexual predator, fake billionaire, traitorous, criminal, loser. I think the sign used to trumpet the local high school's sports teams.

#44 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2023-03-23 06:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Bonner's Ferry, as of January 2022 when I last passed through the little SHole, the welcome to town sign proudly trumpets that it's "Trump Country."

It still does... I went by there a month ago.

#45 | Posted by REDIAL at 2023-03-23 07:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#43 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

as opposed to touchy-feely soyboy emotional embracing of every leftist trope

I bet you play your michael jackson records on a loop

#46 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 07:17 PM | Reply

as opposed to touchy-feely soyboy emotional embracing of every leftist trope

I bet you play your michael jackson records on a loop

#46 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

Such as?

I thought you were trying to fool everyone into thinking you were a bernie supporter? Now here you are whining about leftist tropes like tucker carlson.

#47 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 07:28 PM | Reply

#47 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY....trying to fool everyone into thinking

why would you think I'm trying to fool anyone about anything?

I say what I say...there's no DR boxing glove gonna' come out of the screen and smack me

I try to abide by Rcade's posting rules but I admit I ride as close to the edge as I think I can

Yang/Porter but we both know that's pie in the sky

#48 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 07:39 PM | Reply

#47 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY....trying to fool everyone into thinking

why would you think I'm trying to fool anyone about anything?

I say what I say...there's no DR boxing glove gonna' come out of the screen and smack me

I try to abide by Rcade's posting rules but I admit I ride as close to the edge as I think I can

Yang/Porter but we both know that's pie in the sky

#48 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

I haven't seen a thing come out of your mouth that has anything to do with anything yang or porter stand for.

You spout fascist propaganda about trans people and attack liberalism and democrats on every thread.

Why the act sheeple? What's the point of pretending to be something you're not? Just own it like the other fascist bigots around here instead of playing the same old game under a new name.

#50 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 07:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#50 POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

RENT FREE

I don't march lock step with ANY group. I can support what I believe Yang and Porter's fiscal policies would be without embracing the squads social agenda.
I'm 100% pro choice and 100% against BLM...not black people just BLM.
with you it's either/or all or nothing
ain't happenin'

#51 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 08:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

SPEAKSOFTLY

I'll give you an example, I'm pro choice and I also believe you should have the right to terminate your own life.
I don't believe in a state sponsored death penalty... but I wouldn't have any problem with locking certain criminals up and just shoving a tray under the door until they died.
I try to save my compassion for whom I feel need it

#52 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 08:10 PM | Reply

RHYME

"there's no DR boxing glove gonna' come out of the screen and smack me."

Sure there is. Her name is Twinpac.

#53 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-03-23 08:22 PM | Reply

"In 2022 over 340,000 people fled the state of California"

Fled?
Like running for their lives?

I left California, but I did not flee California.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-23 08:38 PM | Reply

RENT FREE

I don't march lock step with ANY group. I can support what I believe Yang and Porter's fiscal policies would be without embracing the squads social agenda.
I'm 100% pro choice and 100% against BLM...not black people just BLM.
with you it's either/or all or nothing
ain't happenin'

#51 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

FREE is what the rent costs for all the trans people in your head.

America is a binary choice. You can support the fascists who tried to overthrow the government and took away women's right to abortion, like you do, or you can try and stop those fascists.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-23 09:14 PM | Reply

#55 POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

man you're the epitome of a sanctimonious know it all twit. a binary choice between two political genres that you've taken upon yourself to define.
this is why I'd never align myself with any political movement, unreservedly.
America is and never was a binary anything.
you don't espouse Americanism you preach absolute conformity...on your terms
pathetic

#56 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 09:52 PM | Reply

| Posted by rhymegunfighter

This dirtbag needs a swift kick to his camal toe.

#57 | Posted by Angrydad at 2023-03-23 10:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#57 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD

still going through those supervised visitations huh

if you'd kept your hands to yourself you'd maybe be a HAPPYPAPPY

children's protective services don't play do they

so you're still ANGRYDAD

LOL

#59 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-23 11:04 PM | Reply

man you're the epitome of a sanctimonious know it all twit. a binary choice between two political genres that you've taken upon yourself to define.
this is why I'd never align myself with any political movement, unreservedly.
America is and never was a binary anything.
you don't espouse Americanism you preach absolute conformity...on your terms
pathetic

#56 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

Mr "i'm not a republican" just happens to use all the republican's newest vocabulary words.

Mr "i'm not a part of any political movement" just happens to parrot all the talking points from the fascist political movement.

#60 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-24 01:08 PM | Reply

#60 Posted by SpeakSoftly

IMO, you're either incredibly dense, trying to appear provocatively politically correct/woke or we're simply talking past one another.

would you like me to just say "you know what you call a transwoman walking down the street? a moving target"

This is why it's always more fulfilling to debate people like you in person, so you have the option to finally just say fug it and smack them in the mouth

#61 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 01:33 PM | Reply

IMO, you're either incredibly dense, trying to appear provocatively politically correct/woke or we're simply talking past one another.

would you like me to just say "you know what you call a transwoman walking down the street? a moving target"

This is why it's always more fulfilling to debate people like you in person, so you have the option to finally just say fug it and smack them in the mouth

#61 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

Internet tough guys are hilarious.

You went almost 8 posts without bringing up trans people though so good job!

#62 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-24 01:37 PM | Reply

#62 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

I wanted you to feel good about yourself. I'm really your friend. I recognize where those feelings of always being the last one chosen, never invited, and feeling that there really is something 'wrong' with you.
mommy issues really are a 'b***h' so to speak

#63 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 01:51 PM | Reply

I wanted you to feel good about yourself. I'm really your friend. I recognize where those feelings of always being the last one chosen, never invited, and feeling that there really is something 'wrong' with you.
mommy issues really are a 'b***h' so to speak

#63 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

Funny I've talked about my mommy in exactly zero posts. You've talked about trans people in hundreds of posts. Which one of us has "issues?"

#64 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-24 02:12 PM | Reply

#64 Posted by SpeakSoftly

sublimation... according to Freud a deflection of sexual instincts into non-sexual activity

like continually choosing to comment about my posts, particularly if they relate to trans

Mommy...it's dark and I'm afraid

#65 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 02:28 PM | Reply

sublimation... according to Freud a deflection of sexual instincts into non-sexual activity

like continually choosing to comment about my posts, particularly if they relate to trans

Mommy...it's dark and I'm afraid

#65 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

IF? A majority of your post are about trans. What would freud say about that?

#66 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-24 02:35 PM | Reply

What would freud say about that?......#66 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

that I'm interacting with a obsessive/compulsive

#67 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 02:40 PM | Reply

that I'm interacting with a obsessive/compulsive

#67 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

Exactly. He'd say your obsessed with trans people just like I have.
Just like the fascists want you to be so you'll freak out about something totally irrelevant instead of noticing them destroying your democracy.

#68 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-24 02:49 PM | Reply

#68 Posted by SpeakSoftly

and if you don't notice...then you don't deserve

wasn't it "people get the government they deserve"

#69 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 02:58 PM | Reply

and if you don't notice...then you don't deserve

wasn't it "people get the government they deserve"

#69 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

The fascists appreciate you doing your part to focus attention on distraction issues so they won't notice what the fascists are doing.

#70 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-24 03:29 PM | Reply

#70 POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I'll say again "people get the government they deserve"

#71 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 03:53 PM | Reply

I'll say again "people get the government they deserve"
#71 | POSTED BY RHYMEGUNFIGHTER

You're telling me Black Americans deserve a government that sustains systemic racism? Why would they deserve that?

#72 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2023-03-24 04:18 PM | Reply

-You're telling me Black Americans deserve a government that sustains systemic racism?

Do we agree there are other systemic systems in place that hold people back?

minorities
gays
poor
women
handicapped
etc.

#73 | Posted by eberly at 2023-03-24 04:29 PM | Reply

"Do we agree there are other systemic systems in place that hold people back?"

Of course.
Republicans just created a new one for pregnant women in Idaho.

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-24 04:33 PM | Reply

I'll say again "people get the government they deserve"

#71 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

You'll keep calling the people stupid while you keep doing your part to make them stupider.

#75 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-24 05:07 PM | Reply

I'll say again "people get the government they deserve"

our ancestors decided they didn't want English government

the French said no to the monarchy

India told the British enough was enough

Poland told the USSR, No More

History is rife with people who'd had enough

Gandhi said: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

If you're not willing to fight then you don't deserve to win

#76 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 08:17 PM | Reply

If you're not willing to fight then you don't deserve to win

#76 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

We already did that. We beat the british and the confederates. What do you want us to fight over now?

#77 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-24 09:06 PM | Reply

#77 POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

for Truth Justice and the American way. you seem to be down on repubs/fascists
so there's that.
and if that's what you think you're doing then carry on and I hope it works out for you

#78 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 09:22 PM | Reply

for Truth Justice and the American way. you seem to be down on repubs/fascists
so there's that.
and if that's what you think you're doing then carry on and I hope it works out for you

#78 | Posted by rhymegunfighter

That doesn't require fighting it just requires enforcing the law. Which is why the fascist party is now attacking law enforcement

#79 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2023-03-24 09:37 PM | Reply

"for Truth Justice and the American way"

LOL

So you have no idea what you are fighting for.

Go ahead and try and define any one of those terms.

#80 | Posted by donnerboy at 2023-03-25 01:28 PM | Reply

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