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Friday, March 24, 2023

The "don't say gay" law in Florida could be expanded, forbidding school officials to discuss sexual orientation in the classroom of all grades.

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"The proposal, which would not require legislative approval, is scheduled for a vote next month before the state Board of Education and has been put forward by the state Education Department, both of which are led by appointees of the governor.

The rule change would ban lessons on sexual orientation and gender identity from grades 4 to 12, unless required by existing state standards or as part of reproductive health instruction that students can choose not to take. The initial law that DeSantis championed last spring bans those lessons in kindergarten through the third grade."

Here's what happened when a reporter asked Tiny D today about his plan to expand the don't say gay bill:

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#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-23 06:57 PM | Reply

No surprising.

Many of us were saying this was the goal when the original bill was passed.

DeSantis and Florida republicans want homosexuals relegated to second class citizens.

They're not all too happy with history either.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-23 07:14 PM | Reply

I look forward to hearing JeffJ and Eberly and Miranda7, who were adamant this is appropriate for K-3, explain why they support expanding this to K-12.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-23 08:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

miranda disappeared.

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2023-03-23 08:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's simple.

This isn't about kids.

It's about maintaining the belief that homosexuality is a sin or a deviant behavior.

Can't allow people to grow up accepting they're homosexual.
Learning how to accept it and grow up without trauma.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-23 08:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Don't say Republicant.

Those fools are sick.

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-03-23 09:13 PM | Reply

"DeSantis and Florida republicans want homosexuals relegated to second class citizens."

I actually think it is worse than that. Due a combination of fear and religious indoctrination, a lot of the "don't say gay" folks don't want homosexuals to exist at all.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-23 09:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#7 I just posted a link to an article about the current Lt Gov of NC who is planning to run for governor, and the things he says about homosexuals leave no room for them to be accepted into civil society. For example:

In other missives over the years, [Mark] Robinson called same-sex relationships a "sin," a "mass delusion," a "FILTHY ABOMINATION," and a "satanic cult of sexual perversion." He made multiple posts expressing anger at the Gay Pride flag.

talkingpointsmemo.com

People who believe this strongly don't want children to be taught tolerance. They see teaching children tolerance as a form of liberal indoctrination that will lead to God's turning His back on America and the end of society as we know it.

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-23 09:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#8

If they read the bible they keep saying they believe, they would find that Paul described in great detail the many sexual persuasions in Rome, speaking to the new church there.

It's one of those passages that they wouldn't want read read in school.

He advises them not to participate, but then says,

"Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. "

(when he says "doing the same", he means any sins, any missing the mark of perfection, because no one is perfect, they all sin in some way most of the time, and sins are all basically the same to God, no matter that we may consider some inperfections worse than others)

.

And if Paul is too much a liberal for them, they can take Yeshua's word for it:

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2023-03-23 10:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wouldn't it be easier for DeSantis to send the LGBTQLMNOP to separate schools? Maybe inside of a camp where they can engage in fun activities?

I mean, say what you like about the tenets of [Ron DeSantis], Dude, at least it's an ethos.

#10 | Posted by censored at 2023-03-23 10:32 PM | Reply

This guy's not from Florida, but you'll recognize the mindset:

Rep. Clay Higgins
@RepClayHiggins

Over time, American communities will build beautiful, church owned public-access libraries. I'm going to help these churches get funding. We will change the whole public library paradigm.

The libraries regular Americans recall are gone. They've become liberal grooming centers.

twitter.com

Any questions?

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-24 12:46 AM | Reply

Jeff must be super excited. He loves Republican censorship.

#12 | Posted by Sycophant at 2023-03-24 10:33 AM | Reply

I would literally pay $250 to watch a FL
Kindergarten class chant "Gay, gay, gay!"
whilst pointing at DeSanitary at his next
political rally. If we get enough parents
to chip in, those kids could have one helluva
toy spending spree...

#13 | Posted by earthmuse at 2023-03-24 02:01 PM | Reply

...
.....
it's just a thought...

#14 | Posted by earthmuse at 2023-03-24 02:01 PM | Reply

At 17 and 1/2 teens can join the Marines but they can't handle hearing about gay stuff?

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-24 02:06 PM | Reply

At 17 and 1/2 teens can join the Marines but they can't handle hearing about gay stuff?

#15 | POSTED BY TOR

Aren't they one in the same?

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2023-03-24 02:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

@16

only if you get lucky cutie pie. ;)

#17 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-24 02:11 PM | Reply

#16 Posted by truthhurts

Sooo, the marines have taken over from the navy?

#18 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 02:16 PM | Reply

At 17 and 1/2 teens can join the Marines but they can't handle hearing about gay stuff?

POSTED BY TOR AT 2023-03-24 02:06 PM | REPLY

Sure they can. It's the bigoted grownups who have a problem with teaching acceptance of LGBTQIA people. If the current generation of kids are absolutely understanding then they can't hoodwink them into supporting them. They want to preserve the next voting bloc.

#19 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-03-24 02:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The shortest alphabet is Mohawk, with 12 letters.

over half way there ....

as per usual, native Americans are gonna end up short changed

#20 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-24 02:36 PM | Reply

"It's the bigoted grownups who have a problem with teaching acceptance"

They need an "out" group to stand in opposition against.
It's how they define themselves.
They define themselves by excluding and ostracizing and persecuting the ones they don't like.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-24 02:39 PM | Reply

'They need an "out" group to stand in opposition against.'

Can't they hate on authoritarian states like China and Russia?

#22 | Posted by Tor at 2023-03-24 03:00 PM | Reply

Can't they hate on authoritarian states like China and Russia?
#22 | POSTED BY TOR

Say what?
Why would Authoritarians hate on Authoritarian states like China and Russia?
China and Russia's leaders have what they want for America's leader, Tor:
Nearly absolute power, with the opposition party made illegal, and a rubber stamp legislature.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-24 03:05 PM | Reply

[...] It's the bigoted grownups who have a problem with teaching acceptance of LGBTQIA people. [...] #19 | Posted by LauraMohr

Don't know why conservatives would complain about the "A". They don't have anything naughty to talk about.

#24 | Posted by censored at 2023-03-24 03:22 PM | Reply

It's really something how the Party that champions Freedom of Speech when it's Nazis is perfectly fine limiting Freedom of Speech in schools, when the speech is about Gays.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-24 03:24 PM | Reply

He's doing exactly what Leftists said he would, and the Repugnicans told us was nonsense.

#26 | Posted by VictorZiblis at 2023-03-24 04:48 PM | Reply

Aren't they one in the same?

#16 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2023-03-24 02:07 PM | REPLY | FLAG

It's not gay once you're underway. Anyone can partake of our fine Naval traditions.

#27 | Posted by VictorZiblis at 2023-03-24 04:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Due a combination of fear and religious indoctrination, a lot of the "don't say gay" folks don't want homosexuals to exist at all.
#7 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

They might as well not want the sun to rise in the East.

Homosexuality exists. Has forever. Will forever.

The only people who have a problem with it are those who were taught to fear and hate homosexuals.

Those who were groomed and indoctrinated ...

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-24 04:52 PM | Reply

He's doing exactly what Leftists said he would, and the Repugnicans told us was nonsense.

POSTED BY VICTORZIBLIS AT 2023-03-24 04:48 PM | REPLY

Republicans don't care. They actually support it. If not overtly then covertly.

#29 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2023-03-24 04:55 PM | Reply

The only people who have a problem with it are those who were taught to fear and hate homosexuals.

Those who were groomed and indoctrinated ...
#28 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Yes, that's the irony and the hypocrisy in their position.

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2023-03-24 07:09 PM | Reply

I was thinking about something.

He said something like "Florida is where woke comes to die.." which would lead a person to believe that woke is a thing that can go places, die, etc.

A noun.

But then I've heard agendas described as woke, policies described as woke, people described as woke, etc.

An adjective.

I've also heard that woke is the greatest threat the county has ever faced.

People who we should all take very seriously have said this. And they were very serious when they said it, rest assured.

That's sort of ambiguous. It could be either the noun or the adjective that they're afraid of.

But what if it's both?

Because if either is an equal threat, the greatest threat we, as a nation, has ever faced, just imagine how ------- scary a woke woke is...

Wow.

It's a god damned good thing that neither exists and it's just more stupid ---- that stupid people made up to scare old people and get money from them, in'nit?

#31 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-03-25 07:26 AM | Reply

#31 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

wake & bake ... burn a fattie and then post on the DR

why not

it sorta' makes sense or scents or since

#32 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 10:31 AM | Reply

#32 is an olde person who has given money to fight the woke wokes that are threatening the stability of the nation.

And they're proud of it.

#33 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-03-25 11:58 AM | Reply

"They need an "out" group to stand in opposition against.vvIt's how they define themselves."

Exactly.

They've heard the parable of The Good Samaritan, and are not only willing to treat others as "the least of their brethren,", but willing to actually create a "least of my brethren" to treat badly. These folks not only missed the lesson, they missed the point.

In related news, every time I've asked a faux Christian to tell me who the Samaritan would be if Jesus were telling the parable today, I've received an answer which confirmed they didn't understand the concept.

FTW, it would be a black lesbian Jewish refugee from Sub-Saharan Africa.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-25 12:10 PM | Reply

#33 | Posted by tres_flechas

79. and about my only disposable expenditures are horse and dog food.

as far as I can tell they'd all vote democrat

#35 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 12:17 PM | Reply

So, they're smarter than you.

Makes sense.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-25 12:18 PM | Reply

FTW, it would be a black lesbian Jewish refugee from Sub-Saharan Africa.
#34 | Posted by Danforth

Nah...an Eskimo man who presents as a black lesbian Jewish refugee from NYC

#37 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 12:23 PM | Reply

#36 Posted by ClownShack

don't get excited ... they're all straight

#38 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 12:26 PM | Reply

"Nah...an Eskimo man who presents as a black lesbian Jewish refugee from NYC"

I'll take it!

At least you get the point.

#39 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-25 12:28 PM | Reply

don't get excited ... they're all straight
#38 | POSTED BY RHYMEGUNFIGHTER

What a disappointing experience that must have been for you.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-25 12:33 PM | Reply

79.

#35 | POSTED BY RHYMEGUNFIGHTER

Yap.

The second you said:

"You smoke pot, and here are 3 other words that prove, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that woke wokes -- even though I have no idea what that means -- are going to be the end of civilization..."

that you were olde.

And stupid.

#41 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-03-25 12:36 PM | Reply

#36 | Posted by ClownShack

Nah....a stallion who demanded he was a mare would be an affront to nature and reason

unfortunately they aren't able to receive the mental health treatment they'd obviously require. Alpo

#42 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 12:41 PM | Reply

"a stallion who demanded he was a mare would be an affront to nature and reason"

But its stablemates wouldn't shun it, or snort when it's fed and stabled.

#43 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-25 12:46 PM | Reply

#41 Posted by tres_flechas

SPEAKS...CLOWN....STINKOPHANT are fun

you just seem to be a semi literate idiot

no offense

#44 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 12:46 PM | Reply

#43 | Posted by Danforth

I don't know....horses seem to have more sense than people sometimes

and nature for sure won't be denied

#45 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 12:49 PM | Reply

"nature for sure won't be denied"

True. But the vast, vast majority of mammals don't seem to care if a pair of male pengiuns bond.

#46 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-25 01:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

a stallion who demanded he was a mare would be an affront to nature

I'm sure you're quite well versed in the art of equine erotica.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-25 01:09 PM | Reply

Why are gays obsessed with explaining themselves to other people's children?
#47 | POSTED BY ORGASMDONOR

What does that even mean?

Do heterosexuals explain themselves?

Why are you so obsessed with sexualizing children?

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2023-03-25 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Annnnnnd...Once again, a right-winger brings up sexualizing children.

It's starting to be an unbroken string.

So I'll state again: Anyone who looks at drag queens and thinks of sex with children, doesn't need the drag queens.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-25 01:16 PM | Reply

"a stallion who demanded he was a mare would be an affront to nature and reason"

Do a human who wants to fly while you're at it.
Do a brunette who wants to be a blonde next.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2023-03-25 01:33 PM | Reply

The man who cares that"a stallion who demanded he was a mare is an affront to nature and reason"

#53 | Posted by danni at 2023-03-25 01:36 PM | Reply

Any questions?

#11 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

None at all. This is and has been the agenda for 30 years or more. The 'don't say gay' and other anti-LGBTQ legislation, book banning, anti-abortion war, control over education; none of these are individual issues. They are all part of moving this country toward Theocracy. And it must absolutely be resisted.

#54 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2023-03-25 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

unfortunately they aren't able to receive the mental health treatment they'd obviously require. Alpo

#42 | POSTED BY RHYMEGUNFIGHTER

As a horse person, surely you've seen a stallion mount another stallion or a gelding.

As a dog person, surely you've seen a bitch mount another bitch or even a male.

If you spend a lot of time watching deer, you'll see mature bucks mount lesser bucks.

It's not uncommon in the animal world.

#55 | Posted by El_Buscador at 2023-03-25 02:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do a human who wants to fly while you're at it.Do a brunette who wants to be a blonde next....#52 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Do a human who wants to fly while you're at it...I'm Bruce and I identify as a cuckoo bird
Do a brunette who wants to be a blonde next...only if the carpet matches the drapes
SNOOFY...he's his own best joke

#56 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 02:15 PM | Reply

#55 POSTED BY EL_BUSCADOR

and you're absolutely correct....

but when someone wants their mare bred, you can't bring out another mare and tell your client " don't worry, she identifies as a stud "

#57 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 02:24 PM | Reply

Teach the three Rs and as for the rest of your program "no".

#48 | POSTED BY ORGASMDONOR

That'll get a kid ready to hold a steering wheel if they're lucky.

You can bet the people pushing this ---- on kids in public schools are sending their kids to schools private schools where they are taught to think, critically.

#58 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-03-25 04:21 PM | Reply

you just seem to be a semi literate idiot
no offense

#44 | POSTED BY RHYMEGUNFIGHTER

You should post 3 words that are pronounced the same, or at least similarly, that prove your assertion here like you did earlier.

It's a solid move.

And a wise one.

#59 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-03-25 04:24 PM | Reply

"you just seem to be a semi literate idiot"

Semi-literate should either be one word, or hyphenated.

#60 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-25 04:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#59 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

Less Learned Lout?

#61 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 05:31 PM | Reply

Recently Released ------ sums you up, chump.

#62 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-03-25 06:40 PM | Reply

?

#61 | POSTED BY RHYMEGUNFIGHTER

Why are you asking me??

Make it up like you did the ultimate threat to mankind.

#63 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-03-25 07:05 PM | Reply

I was in the states sometime in the early or mid 1980s and I saw this on TV way back then:

youtu.be

No one called him a "groomer" that I remember. I was a kid, so maybe they did.

I also remember that this was how the wypippo of the time, the ones who would be losing their ---- over this today responded to it:

youtu.be

#64 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2023-03-25 07:11 PM | Reply

#64 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

Boy George Keeps Saying Stupid Things About Trans People
The singer said trans people who insist on being gendered correctly think "whatever's going on for them is much more important than anything else."

whatever happened to transvestite?

#65 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 07:26 PM | Reply

Recently Released.....#62 POSTED BY LEGALLYGIVESHEAD

1983 actually

#66 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 07:28 PM | Reply

Make it up like you did the ultimate threat to mankind.
#63 POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

That's easy...no need to make it up

#67 | Posted by rhymegunfighter at 2023-03-25 07:30 PM | Reply

Danforth seething

#68 | Posted by THEBULL at 2023-03-26 06:09 AM | Reply

69!!!!!

#69 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2023-03-26 08:33 AM | Reply

"Danforth seething"

???

If you've got a point, make it.

#70 | Posted by Danforth at 2023-03-26 11:20 AM | Reply

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