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Putin Rival: 'Russia must follow North Korea's example'
Putin rival Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of the Wagner Group, says war in Ukraine has backfired and warns of Russian revolution.
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Putin's internal power is entering a crisis phase. Given how Putin has alienated every one of the "princes" he's created over the last 20+ years, the knives are getting sharpened between rivals.
#1 | Posted by Augustine at 2023-05-25 08:27 AM | Reply
"Prigozhin added that Russia should get ready for a difficult war"
It's been a real cakewalk to this point.
#2 | Posted by Zed at 2023-05-25 08:43 AM | Reply
If I had to guess the only reason Prigozhin isn't dead yet is he is surrounded by Wagnerites near the front.
#3 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2023-05-25 10:00 AM | Reply
I read a very interesting unclassified article today on one of the CIA's classified websites. It was the author's last article before retirement, and he was saying much the same as Prigozhin. Russia has become a country of competing factions. Some that porotect Putin, some that threaten him. But he will fall, and there will be blood. It won't be like 1991. According to the article, the next Russian civil war is going to destroy more than the Parliament building.
#4 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-05-25 12:36 PM | Reply
Yeah. Be more like North Korea. Because that has been such a successful, productive and happy place for such a long time now.
#5 | Posted by moder8 at 2023-05-25 02:36 PM | Reply
Putin rival?
Stop there. That's a death sentence.
Prigozhin might was consider moving to the first floor of his St. Petersburg condo building.
#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-05-25 04:04 PM | Reply
If Zelensky took refuge from Putin's storm-troopers parading into Ukraine from Belarus, Putin's power would gave been enormously elevated. But that didn't happen. Putin's would-be crowning achievement of his dictatorship disguised as a parliamentary democracy backfired. How Putin backfills his disaster is yet to be seen.
#7 | Posted by Augustine at 2023-05-25 06:09 PM | Reply
Saddest of all developments since the Berlin Wall came down is how Putin screwed up Russia. It had potential to incorporate itself into a European-style social democracy along the lines of Sweden. It could have embraced East Germany's unification with West Germany and watched how East Berlin flourished as did the rest of East Germany. Or followed the progress of Poland and the Baltics as they integrated into the EU. But Putin's greed drove him to attempt to recreate the KGB Soviet system in his fascist mafia modeled image. Poor path,Russia.
#8 | Posted by Augustine at 2023-05-25 06:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
I've said it ober and over, Russians will have to kill Putin before things can get better in Ukraine or Russia. To he assasin wh offs that piece of filth will bw a hero in both nations and here too.
#9 | Posted by danni at 2023-05-25 08:33 PM | Reply
Things will get worse in Russia before they get better. That's a fact everyone has accepted. Russia has a lot of internal problems, which of course the nationalist partisans blame on foreign bogeymen, especially 'the West'. Putin played on that when he consolidated his power. Whether he's killed or exiled or slips on a banana, there will still be a lot of Russians like Prigozhin who actually believe that Ukraine is now their equivalent to South Korea.
#10 | Posted by sentinel at 2023-05-25 09:28 PM | Reply
#10 when he consolidated his power the west was strangling the Russian people.
Why the US didn't embrace and extend before Putin will go down as the biggest blunder in modern times.
#11 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-05-25 09:56 PM | Reply
The West is changing too. Less influence,more trouble getting sanctions to be effective.
Putin might outlast the dollar as the main currency.
He might outlast NATO itself if Ukraine screws the pooch and the lines collapse.
#12 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2023-05-25 10:18 PM | Reply
A narcissist led autocracy is tough to abolish. Look at Nicaragua today. Look how Xi in China has consolidated his power. Belarus's Lushenko's been in power 30 years. The Kim family of N. Korea's been in power 83 years. The Castros in Cuba 64 years. Once autocracy gets control, it's almost as tough as abolishing monarchy. But in most dictatorships, there's no incentive to governing benevolently.
#13 | Posted by Augustine at 2023-05-25 10:29 PM | Reply
Even Rome after Caesar Augustus, most emperors who followed were tyrants until Diocletian. And the death of one generally led to nothing better.
#14 | Posted by Augustine at 2023-05-25 10:33 PM | Reply
Russian stooges are so 2022. Yawn.
#15 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2023-05-26 01:31 AM | Reply
#11
The west was strangling people?
#16 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-05-26 02:37 AM | Reply
"The West is changing too. Less influence, more trouble getting sanctions to be effective."
Are you kidding?
You have a west that is stronger and more cohesive at this moment than any other time in history. In fact the west is beginning to include places that aren't even in the west.
The US seems like it might be ready to tear itself apart, but that could only serve to make Europe stronger.
#17 | Posted by madbomber at 2023-05-26 02:40 AM | Reply
#2 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2023-05-25 08:43 AM | FLAG:
It's Russia though. They haven't even lost their first million yet.
#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-05-26 09:28 AM | Reply
The US seems like it might be ready to tear itself apart
#17 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER AT 2023-05-26 02:40 AM | FLAG:
That's just partisan propaganda. 1/3 of registered voters don't even bother.
#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2023-05-26 09:30 AM | Reply
"The US seems like it might be ready to tear itself apart" #17 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER
That would be a dream come true for the Republican Party. They're working on it.
#20 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-05-26 09:45 AM | Reply
We have one puppet candidate with Russia's hand up the sleeve.
And another puppet candidate with Elon Musk's hand up the sleeve.
I feel sorry for the Republicans who have to make that kind of choice in 2024.
#21 | Posted by Twinpac at 2023-05-26 09:50 AM | Reply
The west was strangling people? #16 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER
Figuratively.
#22 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-05-26 10:55 PM | Reply
" a west that is stronger and more cohesive at this moment than any other time in history."
Europe wants the UKRAINE Russian war to end.
US wants it to continue.
The US dollar is slowly being replaced by other currencies.
The US military is full of waste, and can't produce new systems. Europe doesn't even find its own defense.
Western culture is being eroded rapidly.
In what area exactly is the west gaining dominance?
#23 | Posted by oneironaut at 2023-05-26 10:59 PM | Reply
@#23 ... Europe wants the UKRAINE Russian war to end.
US wants it to continue. ...
... and your evidence is?
#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-05-26 11:03 PM | Reply
IAMRUNT is sad because 200,000 of his beloved orcs are worm food.
#25 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2023-05-26 11:03 PM | Reply
@#25 ... because 200,000 of his beloved orcs are worm food. ...
Sadly, an alias I had thought of as providing a differing viewpoint seems to have turned out to be little more than a Putin-stooge. Oh well...
#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2023-05-26 11:27 PM | Reply
"The West is changing too. Less influence,more trouble getting sanctions to be effective.
#12 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER "
"If" is the middle word of life. I guess you are trading all you dollars into Chinese money so as not to miss the big train to wherever they are taking you?
#27 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2023-05-27 10:33 AM | Reply
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